Re: can we make AWL ignore mail from self to self?

2008-05-20 Thread Matt Kettler
Jo Rhett wrote: On May 3, 2008, at 7:59 PM, Matt Kettler wrote: Have you tried running one of the forged messages, and an actual legitimate message through SA manually with the -D flag to see what the trusted and untrusted hosts are, as SA sees it? Yes. Many times. That's not the point of t

Re: Can I block/blacklist via SPF??

2008-05-20 Thread Matt Kettler
Benny Pedersen wrote: On Tue, May 20, 2008 16:08, Matt Kettler wrote: Why get SPF involved? Just blacklist the domain with blacklist_from [EMAIL PROTECTED] bad example :-) Agreed.. SPF is useful to prevent forgery, but if a spammer wants to forge a domain you've blacklisted.. we

razor2 had unknown error during authenticate,,

2008-05-20 Thread Chris
The whole error that shows when running spamassassin -D -r "spam" is: [16283] warn: reporter: razor2 report failed: No such file or directory reporter: razor2 had unknown error during authenticate at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin/Razor2.pm line 217, line 1. at /usr/l

Re: MailChannels Traffic Control (fwd)

2008-05-20 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Tue, May 20, 2008 19:23, Jo Rhett wrote: >> give longer greylist times will do without marketing :-) > It will slow down real user's mail a lot too. real mail servers is 1: known 2: can be bypassed in greylist on that fact #1 Benny Pedersen Need more webspace ? http://www.servage.net/?coup

Re: can we make AWL ignore mail from self to self?

2008-05-20 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Tue, May 20, 2008 22:07, Justin Mason wrote: > No other way. What's wrong with saving a /16? In my experience it's > worked pretty well for the past few years... when mails is from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] this should kill the attempt to get negative scores but positive shoul

Re: Can I block/blacklist via SPF??

2008-05-20 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Tue, May 20, 2008 16:08, Matt Kettler wrote: > Why get SPF involved? Just blacklist the domain with blacklist_from > [EMAIL PROTECTED] bad example :-) > SPF is useful to prevent forgery, but if a spammer wants to forge a > domain you've blacklisted.. well, more power to em. default spamassa

Re: Can I block/blacklist via SPF??

2008-05-20 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Tue, May 20, 2008 15:48, Luis Hernán Otegui wrote: > Here are two examples: > http://pastebin.com/m2a039236 > http://pastebin.com/m5f77a5a4 both are good candidates for training bayes just dont whitelist spam domains, it gets spf_pass that only says domain owner have assigned it good relay,

Re: can we make AWL ignore mail from self to self?

2008-05-20 Thread Justin Mason
Jo Rhett writes: > Let's focus this on specific technical details: > > 1. How does AWL deal with forgery (other than by saving a /16 of the > source IP) No other way. What's wrong with saving a /16? In my experience it's worked pretty well for the past few years... > 2. How can I easily see

Re: MailChannels Traffic Control (fwd)

2008-05-20 Thread mouss
Jo Rhett wrote: On May 19, 2008, at 11:43 PM, Koopmann, Jan-Peter wrote: So yes: If their main "benefit" is tarpitting etc. then I agree it probably is not worth the money or discussion. Why is everyone willing to skip doing 5 minutes of research? Mailchannels idea may not work for you.

Re: MailChannels Traffic Control (fwd)

2008-05-20 Thread mouss
Jo Rhett wrote: mouss, please do a little research I did. I may get things wrong, and would be pleased to get corrected. so please share your knowledge. before you go online attacking people. if discussion is considered as an attack, ... Your statements about what work and don't have no

Re: Mining fake MX and no QUIT for spambot project

2008-05-20 Thread Marc Perkel
... continued As I said in my last mesage. The High MX no quit spambot detectors will send UDP messages to a receiving server that listens for these messages and processes them into blacklists. What I'm doing is just using SOCAT to listen. But doing it right you might want to use a real data

Re: Mining fake MX and no QUIT for spambot project

2008-05-20 Thread Marc Perkel
continuing This project is targeted mostly at harvesting the IP addresses of virus infected spambots. First - some background. I virus infected spambot sends email differently than SMTP servers and there is enough difference that they can usually be detected on the first attempt to send

RE: MailChannels Traffic Control (fwd)

2008-05-20 Thread Koopmann, Jan-Peter
> Why is everyone willing to skip doing 5 minutes of research? I did. > Mailchannels idea may not work for you. But it's worth doing a bit of > research. Oh the idea is nice. But there are others out there that - from my personal perspective - are doing this stuff much better, at least from w

Re: MailChannels Traffic Control (fwd)

2008-05-20 Thread Jo Rhett
On May 19, 2008, at 11:43 PM, Koopmann, Jan-Peter wrote: So yes: If their main "benefit" is tarpitting etc. then I agree it probably is not worth the money or discussion. Why is everyone willing to skip doing 5 minutes of research? Mailchannels idea may not work for you. But it's worth doin

Re: MailChannels Traffic Control (fwd)

2008-05-20 Thread Jo Rhett
On May 19, 2008, at 2:05 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote: On Mon, May 19, 2008 20:18, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: To be fair (I'm testing it right now): It's easy to get running. Right now the Tarpit and slowdown features cannot be had in Postfix, so I'm giving it a spin. give longer greylist times will

Re: MailChannels Traffic Control (fwd)

2008-05-20 Thread Jo Rhett
mouss, please do a little research before you go online attacking people. Your statements about what work and don't have no backup, and go against all existing evidence today, and yet you're blasting them for lack of serious study. Try to do some yourself. On May 19, 2008, at 11:46 AM, mo

Mining fake MX and no QUIT for spambot project

2008-05-20 Thread Marc Perkel
Hi everyone, I'm back from vacation and want to pick up where I left off. I had offered to let anyone use one of my hosts. tarbaby.junkemailfilter.com as your highest numbered MX. The idea being that I would always return a 451 error. You would gain some spam reduction and I would gain blackli

Re: can we make AWL ignore mail from self to self?

2008-05-20 Thread Jo Rhett
Let's focus this on specific technical details: 1. How does AWL deal with forgery (other than by saving a /16 of the source IP) 2. How can I easily see the AWL database for a given destination address?

Re: can we make AWL ignore mail from self to self?

2008-05-20 Thread Jo Rhett
On May 3, 2008, at 7:59 PM, Matt Kettler wrote: Have you tried running one of the forged messages, and an actual legitimate message through SA manually with the -D flag to see what the trusted and untrusted hosts are, as SA sees it? Yes. Many times. That's not the point of this thread. I

Transition to new server - internal_networks?

2008-05-20 Thread Shelley Waltz
I am moving from old smtp(MX)/amavisd/spamassassin server to a new smtp(MX)/amavisd/spamassassin server I will be forwarding particular users email from the old server to the new server as they are moved by using an alias in /etc/postfix/aliases. I wish the new server to receive t

Re: Spamd Not Switching Users

2008-05-20 Thread Jari Fredriksson
> Greetings. > I'm running spamd 3.2.4 alongside my stock Qmail > installation (passing messages over ip sockets via the > qmail-queue patch) on Ubuntu 8.04. Because this is a > site-wide config, in previous distros I'd been able to > successfully get both the "parent" spamd process and the > spam

Re: Lint Failed on __GATED_THROUGH_RCVD_REMOVER

2008-05-20 Thread Justin Mason
mouss writes: > Kevin Plested wrote: > > I received the following this morning when I tried a lint, it would have > > occurred after an automated update this morning using sa-update. I tried > > searching it online, but didn't find anything on it? > > > > > > rules: failed to run __GATED_THROUGH

Re: Can I block/blacklist via SPF??

2008-05-20 Thread Luis Hernán Otegui
2008/5/20 mouss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Matt Kettler wrote: >> >> Luis Hernán Otegui wrote: >>> >>> Hello, list. I've been wondering how to stop traffic from certain >>> hosts which only seem to distribute spam. I'm tired of reporting the >>> emails to their ISP, Spamcop, etc. Since the servers are

Re: Lint Failed on __GATED_THROUGH_RCVD_REMOVER

2008-05-20 Thread mouss
Kevin Plested wrote: I received the following this morning when I tried a lint, it would have occurred after an automated update this morning using sa-update. I tried searching it online, but didn't find anything on it? rules: failed to run __GATED_THROUGH_RCVD_REMOVER test, skipping:

Lint Failed on __GATED_THROUGH_RCVD_REMOVER

2008-05-20 Thread Kevin Plested
I received the following this morning when I tried a lint, it would have occurred after an automated update this morning using sa-update. I tried searching it online, but didn't find anything on it? rules: failed to run __GATED_THROUGH_RCVD_REMOVER test, skipping: (Can't locate object me

Re: Can I block/blacklist via SPF??

2008-05-20 Thread mouss
Matt Kettler wrote: Luis Hernán Otegui wrote: Hello, list. I've been wondering how to stop traffic from certain hosts which only seem to distribute spam. I'm tired of reporting the emails to their ISP, Spamcop, etc. Since the servers are identically configured (they seem to be virtual machines f

Re: Can I block/blacklist via SPF??

2008-05-20 Thread Matt Kettler
Luis Hernán Otegui wrote: Hello, list. I've been wondering how to stop traffic from certain hosts which only seem to distribute spam. I'm tired of reporting the emails to their ISP, Spamcop, etc. Since the servers are identically configured (they seem to be virtual machines fired up/cloned from t

Can I block/blacklist via SPF??

2008-05-20 Thread Luis Hernán Otegui
Hello, list. I've been wondering how to stop traffic from certain hosts which only seem to distribute spam. I'm tired of reporting the emails to their ISP, Spamcop, etc. Since the servers are identically configured (they seem to be virtual machines fired up/cloned from the same template), and have

Re: problem with shortcircuit

2008-05-20 Thread Michael Geiger
Matus UHLAR - fantomas schrieb: On 20.05.08 12:06, Michael Geiger wrote: Hello, I just found a problem with a shortcircuit rule in my sa installation (3.2.4)! shortcircuiting is not as easy as it seems. Many kinds of different checks are run in parallel, some are run before others. To get shor

Re: problem with shortcircuit

2008-05-20 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 20.05.08 12:06, Michael Geiger wrote: > Hello, I just found a problem with a shortcircuit rule in my sa > installation (3.2.4)! shortcircuiting is not as easy as it seems. Many kinds of different checks are run in parallel, some are run before others. To get shortcircuit working, you must incr

Re: How to report FN on HABEAS_ACCREDITED_COI

2008-05-20 Thread mouss
ram wrote: Yes but the invite option may be abused. Like yahoo calendar invites are abused to send spam Mailing-Lists also can be abused (try to subscribe with a forged address). the question is - can the abuser put his text or url inside the message? If so, the site should run the text a

Re: How to report FN on HABEAS_ACCREDITED_COI

2008-05-20 Thread ram
Yes but the invite option may be abused. Like yahoo calendar invites are abused to send spam On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 03:23 -0700, Eloise Carlton wrote: > Thank you for taking the time to report this. We've audited this > sender; they are a social network, where users can communicate within a > n

Re: How to report FN on HABEAS_ACCREDITED_COI

2008-05-20 Thread Eloise Carlton
Thank you for taking the time to report this. We've audited this sender; they are a social network, where users can communicate within a network or users inviting friends to join a forum. The sender also implemented Captcha as part of the registration. We are working to find out more of the how the

problem with shortcircuit

2008-05-20 Thread Michael Geiger
Hello, I just found a problem with a shortcircuit rule in my sa installation (3.2.4)! I have defined in local.cf: header MAILMAN ALL =~ /-(bounces|confirm|join|leave|request|subscribe|unsubscribe)[EMAIL PROTECTED]/i describeMAILMAN Mailman whitelisted shortcircuitMAILMAN

Re: Not sure if its working

2008-05-20 Thread mouss
Bob Cohen wrote: I'm seeing these entries in my maillog: May 19 18:16:41 anduril postfix/qmgr[10162]: warning: connect to transport spamfilter: No such file or directory May 19 18:16:42 anduril postfix/qmgr[10162]: warning: connect to transport spamassassin: Connection refused which