Re: Starting a URIBL - Howto? [OT]

2008-04-29 Thread Dallas Engelken
Rob McEwen wrote: (on-list follow-up) By "proactive listings", I discovered in my off-list conversation with Dallas that this refers to URIBL-Gold listings... where items are listed in "uribl-gold" in advance of seeing them in actual spams. But this uribl-gold list isn't available to the publ

Re: can we make AWL ignore mail from self to self?

2008-04-29 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 05:51:17PM -0700, Jo Rhett wrote: > Do you have the same lhs? At least one of the botnets tries to match > lhs for the forged sender. A few of my messages came from my other > accounts, many others (in the same spam run) came from people I > didn't know with the same

Re: can we make AWL ignore mail from self to self?

2008-04-29 Thread Matt Kettler
Jo Rhett wrote: On Apr 23, 2008, at 3:27 PM, Matt Kettler wrote: How and why? Are you saying I *must* have a 2nd-level MX host for SA to work? That's not my experience, and 2-layer relays are backscatter sources. Milter from the local MTA works just fine. No, you don't need a second-level

Re: Re: Starting a URIBL - Howto? [OT]

2008-04-29 Thread Dallas Engelken
Rob McEwen wrote: Dallas Engelken wrote: Yes, of course, but you're results.txt is biased as it only shows where imvURI hits. Based on the last 20k adds to URIBL, it appears to me that imvURI has less coverage? : Dallas, Yes, you are right! URIBL *does* cast a wider net than ivmURI. So,

Re: can we make AWL ignore mail from self to self?

2008-04-29 Thread D Hill
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 at 17:58 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated: I'm not repeating for the 5th time that there are no trusted mailservers. Only this host. Correct. On our filter server(s) which are strictly inbound only (nothing trusted but itself): # Begin SA Network Settings clear

Re: can we make AWL ignore mail from self to self?

2008-04-29 Thread D Hill
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 at 17:53 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated: Now please stop arguing that AWL is useless. It works for me. If it doesn't work for you, then you have no reason to reply on this thread. (not trying to be rude, but this conversation is pointless) Works for me too. I was

Re: Starting a URIBL - Howto? [OT]

2008-04-29 Thread Rob McEwen
(on-list follow-up) First, earlier I presented these stats: 186/500 (ivmURI hits from the latest 500 URIBL listings) 328/500 (URIBL hits from the latest 500 ivmURI listings) A follow-up *idential* test... only conducted later... gave these stats: 225/500 (ivmURI hits from the latest 500 URIBL li

Re: can we make AWL ignore mail from self to self?

2008-04-29 Thread Jo Rhett
On Apr 23, 2008, at 3:27 PM, Matt Kettler wrote: How and why? Are you saying I *must* have a 2nd-level MX host for SA to work? That's not my experience, and 2-layer relays are backscatter sources. Milter from the local MTA works just fine. No, you don't need a second-level MX. However, to

Re: can we make AWL ignore mail from self to self?

2008-04-29 Thread Jo Rhett
On Apr 22, 2008, at 12:06 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 21.04.08 23:46, Bob Proulx wrote: It is you who are missing the point. When spammers generate mail from and to every possible combination they will eventually hit a combination that you will see. The distributed spamming engines of

Re: can we make AWL ignore mail from self to self?

2008-04-29 Thread Jo Rhett
On Apr 21, 2008, at 10:46 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Jo Rhett wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Who to forge? The answer is "Everyone!" Any address that can be You're going out of your way to miss the point. That's hard work It is you who are missing the point. When spammers generate mail from and to

Re: can we make AWL ignore mail from self to self?

2008-04-29 Thread Jo Rhett
On Apr 21, 2008, at 10:01 PM, Theo Van Dinter wrote: Actually I don't think it's that hard, at least for conversations on public lists. Right now it seems to be more work than they bother with. As I've noted, I read all my spam looking at the latest techniques and I've never seen this.

Re: Bayes Learning with Analysis Attached

2008-04-29 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 03:23:38AM +0300, Jari Fredriksson wrote: > I wonder why it is called "magic". Because the data that is being dumped is from the metadata in the DB, which we store using "magic" tokens, since they're tokens that can't possibly exist in the DB through normal means. -- Ra

Re: Bayes Learning with Analysis Attached

2008-04-29 Thread Jari Fredriksson
> Theo Van Dinter wrote: >> Matt Florido wrote: >>> I'm not seeing Bayes participating in the scoring. Is >>> this because it's new and my Bayes db hasn't been fully >>> trained? >> >> Yes. You need 200 each ham and spam. > > You can use sa-learn to dump the database stats and see > how many o

Re: netstat info-blacklist IP

2008-04-29 Thread mouss
Jean-Paul Natola wrote: How do I go about shunning the IP - via Exim or via SA? And where if possible the most effective is at the firewall level. why let it open a TCP session?

Re: Bayes Learning with Analysis Attached

2008-04-29 Thread Bob Proulx
Theo Van Dinter wrote: > Matt Florido wrote: > > I'm not seeing Bayes participating in the scoring. Is this because it's > > new and my Bayes db hasn't been fully trained? > > Yes. You need 200 each ham and spam. You can use sa-learn to dump the database stats and see how many of each have been

Re: Bayes Learning with Analysis Attached

2008-04-29 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 11:08:22AM -0700, Matt Florido wrote: > feature. However, I'm wondering if this impacts sa-learn? Can I simply > run sa-learn on mails that have the analysis attached? I also noticed Yes. sa-learn removes markup before doing the processing. > I'm not seeing Bayes part

Bayes Learning with Analysis Attached

2008-04-29 Thread Matt Florido
New to SA 3.2.4 running on Ubuntu 8.04. I noticed SA attaches an analysis summary for all mails it detects as spam which is a nice feature. However, I'm wondering if this impacts sa-learn? Can I simply run sa-learn on mails that have the analysis attached? I also noticed I'm not seeing Bayes pa

Re: Starting a URIBL - Howto? [OT]

2008-04-29 Thread Rob McEwen
Dallas Engelken wrote: Yes, of course, but you're results.txt is biased as it only shows where imvURI hits. Based on the last 20k adds to URIBL, it appears to me that imvURI has less coverage? : Dallas, Yes, you are right! URIBL *does* cast a wider net than ivmURI. So, in general, I agre

Re: Re: Starting a URIBL - Howto? [OT]

2008-04-29 Thread Dallas Engelken
Rob McEwen wrote: and ALL 3 catch stuff the other 2 miss... FOR EXAMPLE: http://invaluement.com/results.txt ) Yes, of course, but you're results.txt is biased as it only shows where imvURI hits. Based on the last 20k adds to URIBL, it appears to me that imvURI has less coverage? imvUR

Re: history of scores

2008-04-29 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 04:12:16PM +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > I'm searching for history of scores for some rules (e.g. MISSING_MID) in the > past. Can anybody help me to find it? ie: what the score was set to? You'd have to look through SVN history. -- Randomly Selected Tagline: "Se

RE: netstat info-blacklist IP

2008-04-29 Thread Jean-Paul Natola
How do I go about shunning the IP - via Exim or via SA? And where if possible -Original Message- From: Jack Pepper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 11:48 AM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: netstat info-blacklist IP Quoting Jean-Paul Natola <[EMAIL

Re: netstat info-blacklist IP

2008-04-29 Thread Jack Pepper
Quoting Jean-Paul Natola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I did trace it back to this IP enewsletter11.ruceci.com (enewsletter.ruceci.com) [208.74.102.200] which is a datacenter in KS: Arsalon Technologies LLC Send them a friendly/helpful note (include packet traces or mail logs) since we will politel

RE: Measuring the world's biggest email domains (fwd)

2008-04-29 Thread Jeff Moss
> I am the chairman of a German eco working group about > Sender-Authentication (http://www.eco.de/arbeitskreise/sauth.htm), in > this context I started http://www.agitos.de/dkim-reputation-project.html > which reveals interesting results: especially the blocking of single > spammer accounts

Re: AWL Database Cleanup

2008-04-29 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 09:27:49AM +0100, Justin Mason wrote: > To be honest, at this stage I'd be happy to see just a simple AWL expiry > mechanism -- the over-arching solution sounds like it just got bogged down > in too much generality. KISS. Perhaps. The issue is that it's basically going to

Re: SA with FreeBSD 7

2008-04-29 Thread Vivek Khera
On Apr 28, 2008, at 3:21 PM, Richard J. Kieran wrote: Has anyone tested SpamAssassin with FreeBSD 7? Are there any known problems? Perl is perl is perl. Works just fine in both amd64 and i386.

netstat info-blacklist IP

2008-04-29 Thread Jean-Paul Natola
I was running in major overloads on my box and I kept noticing entries such as these enewsletter11.ru.2500 TIME_WAIT enewsletter11.ru.2353 ESTABLISHED enewsletter11.ru.2371 TIME_WAIT enewsletter11.ru.2350 ESTABLISHED half of them would eventually time out- SMTP command timeout on connection

Re: FAKE_REPLY_C explanation - misbehaving?

2008-04-29 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> Matus UHLAR - fantomas writes: > > seems that current metarule fell off my email... I'm inserting it where it > > should be: > > > > On 24.04.08 12:39, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > > the FAKE_REPLY_C seems to mean an indication that message looks like > > > reply, > > > while it's not real

history of scores

2008-04-29 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Hello, I'm searching for history of scores for some rules (e.g. MISSING_MID) in the past. Can anybody help me to find it? -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ Warning: I wish NOT to receive e-mail advertising to this address. Varovanie: na tuto adresu chcem NEDOS

SA with FreeBSD 7

2008-04-29 Thread Richard J. Kieran
Has anyone tested SpamAssassin with FreeBSD 7? Are there any known problems? I use SA with MIMEDefang/Sendmail. TIA. Richard

Re: AWL Database Cleanup

2008-04-29 Thread Justin Mason
Theo Van Dinter writes: > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 03:52:02PM -0400, Kris Deugau wrote: > > There is no way I know of to shrink BerkelyDB files in-place. >:( > > In case anyone's wondering, this is why the Bayes expire system creates a new > DB file and copies over the entries that should be kept