Re: [sa-list] Re: RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW

2007-10-16 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007, Henrik Krohns wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 06:16:49PM -0400, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: dnswl.org is either full of it, or not well maintained. I've gotten at least 20 spams which I see are listed in dnswl.org as "low trust" (which still merits -1.0). Umm, did yo

Re: RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW

2007-10-16 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007, Matthias Leisi wrote: I forwarded over 200 of them earlier today (as an attachment -- total email size was about one meg). It would have been from this address. -Dan -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dan Mahoney, System Admin schrieb: dnswl.org is either

Re: RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW

2007-10-16 Thread Matthias Leisi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dan Mahoney, System Admin schrieb: > dnswl.org is either full of it, or not well maintained. > > I've gotten at least 20 spams which I see are listed in dnswl.org as > "low trust" (which still merits -1.0). All different IP addresses or some specifi

RE: unsubscribed

2007-10-16 Thread Rob Sterenborg
Steve Ingraham wrote: > I cannot help but comment on this post. Neither can I. > I am one of those ignorant people that is subscribed to this list > (along with several others) for the purpose of asking questions of > you experts out there because I do not fully understand how it is > working. B

Re: Question about total effective of spamassassin

2007-10-16 Thread cpayne
I just got information from the open suse group where I can get 3.2.3.11, I have update my spamassassin, and I am not getting those ugly errors, but I am still getting this one, which was drive me crazy before... 2.5 FM_NO_FROM_OR_TO FM_NO_FROM_OR_TO -0.0 NO_RECEIVED Information

Re: way to change the header

2007-10-16 Thread Matt Kettler
cpayne wrote: > Is there a way I can take this > > X-Spam-Status: No, score=(1.1), required=1.5, > tests=BAYES_50,Magi_Body_Chuck, > NO_RECEIVED,TO_CC_NONE, autolearn=no, bayes score = 0.5000, > version=3.1.8 > date scan = Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:38:39 -0400 > Have you already customized your a

Re: DNSWL question

2007-10-16 Thread Matt Kettler
Justin Mason wrote: > Mark Wendt (Contractor) writes: > >> I've started seeing some spam come through that gets labeled with >> "RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/";, >> which imparts a negative score if the relay is listed in their >> db. Here at the Lab, we have

Re: Question about total effective of spamassassin

2007-10-16 Thread Matt Kettler
cpayne wrote: >> > Cool I just found a source rpm and I am building 3.2.3.10 so hopefully > this will help my issue thanks guys. > > By the way, I notices no one answer the part about the script. You mean this one: -- If questions, anyone know of script that works

Re: test my auto-generated ruleset

2007-10-16 Thread Larry Nedry
On 8/13/07 at 4:01 PM +0100 Justin Mason wrote: >I've been working on a new way to auto-generate body rules recently... Are these rules restricted to Spamassassin 3.2 or newer? The following is what I get when I dig 8.1.3.sought.rules.yerp.org. Notice the NXDOMAIN. Thanks for the great work! N

Re: Question about total effective of spamassassin

2007-10-16 Thread cpayne
Justin Mason wrote: cpayne writes: Matt Kettler wrote: Thanks, guys the problem is that for SuSE 10.0 3.1.8 is the max, and the last time I update a 10.0 to the lastest everything broke. And the major thing for me that perl is still at 5.8.7, don't you have to be 5.8.8 or higher for the laste

Re: unsubscribed

2007-10-16 Thread Bob Proulx
Steve Ingraham wrote: > I just wanted to add my agreement to your statements and to ask that > some posters try to treat all of us asking these supposedly "stupid" > questions to understand that we really do struggle with > understanding how all of these systems function. I see a lot of silly ques

40comcast.net detected as URI

2007-10-16 Thread Jim Hermann - UUN Hostmaster
The UUism Networks MailScanner believes that the attachment to this message sent to you From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 40comcast.net detected as URI may be Unsolicited Commercial Email (spam). Unless you are sure that this message is incorrectly thought to be spam, please delete this

RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW

2007-10-16 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
dnswl.org is either full of it, or not well maintained. I've gotten at least 20 spams which I see are listed in dnswl.org as "low trust" (which still merits -1.0). Could we maybe please add a feature to spamassassin -r (or some other hook to the generic whitelisting code) which reports this t

Re: Question about total effective of spamassassin

2007-10-16 Thread Justin Mason
cpayne writes: > Matt Kettler wrote: > Thanks, guys the problem is that for SuSE 10.0 3.1.8 is the max, and the > last time I update a 10.0 to the lastest everything broke. And the major > thing for me that perl is still at 5.8.7, don't you have to be 5.8.8 or > higher for the lastest stuff. nope

Re: Question about total effective of spamassassin

2007-10-16 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 04:52:41PM -0400, cpayne wrote: > but I have found out that > sa-update places the lastest greatest updates in /var/lib/spamassasin > and suse by default places the test files into /usr/share/spamassassin I > think that is the problem. So know I have to figure out how to kil

Re: Question about total effective of spamassassin

2007-10-16 Thread cpayne
Matt Kettler wrote: Michael Scheidell wrote: 3.18 is unsupported. please update to latest versions. Well, it's as supported or unsupported as any other version of SpamAssassin is. No version of SpamAssassin is "supported" by the SA team beyond the advice given on this list. (sure, s

RE: unsubscribed

2007-10-16 Thread Steve Ingraham
> -Original Message- > From: Clay Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 3:33 PM > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: RE: unsubscribed > > > Steve, I hope you didn't misunderstand me... I AGREE with you! Clay > No! My apologies for the misunderstan

RE: unsubscribed

2007-10-16 Thread Clay Davis
Steve, I hope you didn't misunderstand me... I AGREE with you! Clay >>> "Steve Ingraham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/16/2007 4:10 PM >>> > -Original Message- > From: Clay Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 2:16 PM > To: Bob Proulx; users@spamassassin.apache.or

Re: refefine/extend a existing rule in 20_ratware.cf possible ??

2007-10-16 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Paul Griffith wrote: Hi, I want to add a patch to 20_ratware.cf so I can extend FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK to handle the new Outlook Message-ID format. Can I just redefine the supporting meta rule __FORGED_OE and let SA take care of the rest ? Redefining the rule in your site config (often located

RE: unsubscribed

2007-10-16 Thread Steve Ingraham
> -Original Message- > From: Clay Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 2:16 PM > To: Bob Proulx; users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: unsubscribed > > > Bob, > > I agree and have for a long time. I am always a little taken > aback when an "unsubs

Re: refefine/extend a existing rule in 20_ratware.cf possible ??

2007-10-16 Thread Paul Griffith
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:57:00 -0400, Joseph Brennan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --On Tuesday, October 16, 2007 12:59 -0400 Paul Griffith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I want to add a patch to 20_ratware.cf so I can extend FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK to handle the new Outlook Message-ID format. C

Re: unsubscribed

2007-10-16 Thread Clay Davis
Bob, I agree and have for a long time. I am always a little taken aback when an "unsubscriber" get hammered with sarcasm on this list... Plus, I have always "assembled first and read the directions later"... especially on Christmas Eve, when the pressure is on! It's human nature... but, then, s

Re: refefine/extend a existing rule in 20_ratware.cf possible ??

2007-10-16 Thread Joseph Brennan
--On Tuesday, October 16, 2007 12:59 -0400 Paul Griffith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I want to add a patch to 20_ratware.cf so I can extend FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK to handle the new Outlook Message-ID format. Can I just redefine the supporting meta rule __FORGED_OE and let SA take care of the

RE: uribl.com implementing ACLs

2007-10-16 Thread Joseph Brennan
No donations IT departments managed by folks with corporate backgrounds don't even have a procedure for sending off checks in arbitrary amounts solely because somebody thinks it would be a nice thing to do. Just say that large sites have to pay for rsync and put a price on it. That turns it i

Re: Sa-compile error

2007-10-16 Thread Justin Mason
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Luis_Hern=E1n_Otegui?= writes: > Hi, everybody, sa-compile was running allright in my systems, and the > saturday it began to spit out this output (from sa-compile -D): there are a number of bugs in sa-compile that are fixed in SVN trunk-- please apply the patches from http://issue

Sa-compile error

2007-10-16 Thread Luis HernĂ¡n Otegui
Hi, everybody, sa-compile was running allright in my systems, and the saturday it began to spit out this output (from sa-compile -D): cd /tmp/.spamassassin28680clJUyOtmp cd Mail-SpamAssassin-CompiledRegexps-body_0 Wide character in print at /usr/local/bin/sa-compile line 379, <$fh> line 4428. re2c

Re: Question about total effective of spamassassin

2007-10-16 Thread Alex Woick
> I am also running an old version (3.1.7 on Ubuntu 7.04). Between SA and > Thunderbird's own spam features, I am detecting something between 75% > and 80% of spam. How much better is 3.2.x? On my small system (5 users) spam detection is above 99% accuracy for my own mail account. Less than 1

refefine/extend a existing rule in 20_ratware.cf possible ??

2007-10-16 Thread Paul Griffith
Hi, I want to add a patch to 20_ratware.cf so I can extend FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK to handle the new Outlook Message-ID format. Can I just redefine the supporting meta rule __FORGED_OE and let SA take care of the rest ? see patch here: http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/attachment.cgi?id=416

Re: AWL: what would happen if...

2007-10-16 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 10:44:45AM -0500, Mike Jackson wrote: > happen, and I couldn't figure it out. I figure it would either override > the dynamic score and always apply -100 if there's a match in the AWL > database, or that the forced score would be ignored. So, which is it, or > an answer C

Re: uribl.com implementing ACLs

2007-10-16 Thread John Rudd
IMO, one of the best and _easiest_ things any site can do to show love to any blacklist service is: run a local mirror. Even better is to run a publicly accessible mirror ... but a local mirror lessens your impact on the service you're consuming. Ask them when and often you can pull the mir

RE: uribl.com implementing ACLs

2007-10-16 Thread Chris Santerre
Since the last DDOS it would have been nice if the big guys ran local mirrors instead of making the problem worse. No donations and hammering away at the server I wonder why small RBLs drop off the planet. I salute every one who has donated time, machines, banwidth, and love to URIBL. The res

Re: Mailman cooler [Was Re: unsubscribed]

2007-10-16 Thread SM
At 15:52 15-10-2007, Mark Martinec wrote: Also, not to forget that mailman in its current version invalidates and removes DKIM signatures, while this mailing lists stays faithful and keeps messages intact and retains original signatures. (there is supposedly some mailman patch floating around to

AWL: what would happen if...

2007-10-16 Thread Mike Jackson
I work for a large managed hosting company. One of my fellow techs saw a customer put the following in their /etc/mail/local.cf: score AWL -100 He asked me (I have a reputation as the local SA "expert") what would happen, and I couldn't figure it out. I figure it would either override the dyn

Re: Question about total effective of spamassassin

2007-10-16 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 16.10.07 10:46, Kent Borg wrote: > I am also running an old version (3.1.7 on Ubuntu 7.04). Between SA and > Thunderbird's own spam features, I am detecting something between 75% > and 80% of spam. How much better is 3.2.x? It contains more actual and some new rules. but I can't tell you "how

Re: SpamAssassin not hitting well on obvious spam

2007-10-16 Thread Chris 'Xenon' Hanson
Henrik Krohns wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 12:18:06AM -0600, Chris 'Xenon' Hanson wrote: That's just a source code search engine. It's showing files it found in SVN on the SpamAssassin site, here: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/spamassassin/rules/trunk/sandbox/jm/20_sought.cf?view=log Unfor

RE: Question about total effective of spamassassin

2007-10-16 Thread Martin.Hepworth
My SA setup is way better than that on it's own, but I have lots of 3rd parts rules in the mix.. -- Martin Hepworth Snr Systems Administrator Solid State Logic Tel: +44 (0)1865 842300 > -Original Message- > From: Kent Borg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 16 October 2007 15:46 > To: us

Re: Question about total effective of spamassassin

2007-10-16 Thread Kent Borg
I am also running an old version (3.1.7 on Ubuntu 7.04). Between SA and Thunderbird's own spam features, I am detecting something between 75% and 80% of spam. How much better is 3.2.x? Thanks, -kb

Re: uribl.com implementing ACLs

2007-10-16 Thread Rick Macdougall
Oli Schacher wrote: I've just heard that uribl.com is implementing ACLs for heavy hitters. For those running ISP/ASPs doing millions of queries you may want to watch your logs. They not blocking queries (yet?) but return a "REFUSED" I believe we are already blocking some major heavy hitters

uribl.com implementing ACLs

2007-10-16 Thread Oli Schacher
I've just heard that uribl.com is implementing ACLs for heavy hitters. For those running ISP/ASPs doing millions of queries you may want to watch your logs. They not blocking queries (yet?) but return a "REFUSED" Regards, Oli

Spamassassin - Some e-mails did not go through it

2007-10-16 Thread Bruno Henrique de Oliveira
Hi, Some e-mails did not go through it. As we can see in line of the header below: (clamdscan: 0.90.3/. spamassassin: 3.2.1. Clear:RC:0(200.236.162.2):SA:0(?/?):. Processed in 20.839116 secs); 16 Oct 2007 00:05:15 - The header of the message nor has the line "X-Spam-Flag". Is

Re: DNSWL question

2007-10-16 Thread Justin Mason
Mark Wendt (Contractor) writes: > I've started seeing some spam come through that gets labeled with > "RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/";, > which imparts a negative score if the relay is listed in their > db. Here at the Lab, we have an email gateway at the front,

Re: DNSWL question

2007-10-16 Thread Jonathan Armitage
Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: I've started seeing some spam come through that gets labeled with "RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/"; > Can someone point me in the right direction as to how and where I can turn off this rule if it can be turned off? In local.cf:

Re: DNSWL question

2007-10-16 Thread Jeff Chan
Quoting "Mark Wendt (Contractor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I've started seeing some spam come through that gets labeled with > "RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/";, > which imparts a negative score if the relay is listed in their > db. Here at the Lab, we have an email g

DNSWL question

2007-10-16 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
I've started seeing some spam come through that gets labeled with "RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/";, which imparts a negative score if the relay is listed in their db. Here at the Lab, we have an email gateway at the front, which is the single point of entry for

Re: Headers not being updated

2007-10-16 Thread MartyG
Thank you both for your posts I'll go off and find out about these issues. I'll report back if and when I find a solution. Martin Matt Kettler-3 wrote: > > MartyG wrote: >> I have recently moved to a new VPS, everything has been setup for me and >> is >> working well except Spamassassin. (I'

Re: SpamAssassin not hitting well on obvious spam

2007-10-16 Thread Loren Wilton
I believe SA uses Bayes out of the box, but what I don't get is how will Bayes know it's spam (to train on, versus ham) You tell it. Bayes won't kick in on a new installation until you have manually fed it AT LEAST 200 each hams and spams. You do this by deciding yourself if a message is h

Re: way to change the header

2007-10-16 Thread Banyan He
I remember it follows RFC specification. So, no blank lines in the headers. cpayne wrote: Is there a way I can take this X-Spam-Status: No, score=(1.1), required=1.5, tests=BAYES_50,Magi_Body_Chuck, NO_RECEIVED,TO_CC_NONE, autolearn=no, bayes score = 0.5000, version=3.1.8 date scan =

Re: SpamAssassin not hitting well on obvious spam

2007-10-16 Thread Justin Mason
Henrik Krohns writes: > http://taint.org/2007/08/15/004348a.html Ah, my auto-generated ruleset! Yes, please try it out -- it works very well indeed ;) (If anyone gets any FPs from it, I'd appreciate if you could package them up as an mbox, zip it, and mail it to me to avoid them in future. But

way to change the header

2007-10-16 Thread cpayne
Is there a way I can take this X-Spam-Status: No, score=(1.1), required=1.5, tests=BAYES_50,Magi_Body_Chuck, NO_RECEIVED,TO_CC_NONE, autolearn=no, bayes score = 0.5000, version=3.1.8 date scan = Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:38:39 -0400 and make it look like this... X-Spam-Status: No, sc