Re: Q. about spam directed towards highest MX Record?

2006-09-27 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Rob McEwen wrote: (CCing Marc Perkel because I seem to recall him knowing about this) Not that I'd ever outright block based on this one factor alone, but... Does anyone have any stats about what percentage of spam is directed towards the highest MX Record? (that is, where there is more than on

Re: really slow spamd scan

2006-09-27 Thread Olivier Nicole
> > 14 seconds may be just the delay for the various network tests to > > respond. > You mean the test form SA? I have googled for this kind of situations > and I found I am the slowest. If I stop the spamd, the delivery will > be much faster. I mean it depends how your SA is configured. Some of

Re: sa-learn and "Caught" spams

2006-09-27 Thread Dave Pooser
> For instance, given the explanations above, I'll > start a system to automatically learn from my 'checkspam' folder, but not > my 'highspam' folder. Remember that your 'highspam' may be separated from 'checkspam' largely based on network tests; I often see identical messages with a 6-8 point var

Re: really slow spamd scan

2006-09-27 Thread Deephay
On 9/28/06, Olivier Nicole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am quite new to SA (a week of SA life), and the SA is working, the > thing is, SA is incredibly slow on my server (2.8GHZ CPU + 2GB Memory > + Qmail + Qmail-scanner). Here's a typical scan log: > > result: . 0 - SPF_PASS scantime=14.7,siz

Re: Q. about spam directed towards highest MX Record?

2006-09-27 Thread Dave Pooser
> Also, has anyone ever seen ANY legit mail go to the highest MX record when > no mail server failure occurred? I've seen a tiny amount-- little enough that I earlier set my primary to dump any messages received from my tertiary MX into a quarantine folder for my review, but since I got ImageInfo.

Re: really slow spamd scan

2006-09-27 Thread Olivier Nicole
> I am quite new to SA (a week of SA life), and the SA is working, the > thing is, SA is incredibly slow on my server (2.8GHZ CPU + 2GB Memory > + Qmail + Qmail-scanner). Here's a typical scan log: > > result: . 0 - SPF_PASS scantime=14.7,size=1689 ... Hi, Problem is not that it is slow.

really slow spamd scan

2006-09-27 Thread Deephay
Greetings all, I am quite new to SA (a week of SA life), and the SA is working, the thing is, SA is incredibly slow on my server (2.8GHZ CPU + 2GB Memory + Qmail + Qmail-scanner). Here's a typical scan log: result: . 0 - SPF_PASS scantime=14.7,size=1689 ... . And I have checked the SA

Re: FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD?

2006-09-27 Thread Matt Kettler
What's your trusted_networks look like? Based on the headers below you'll need to set it manually. By default SA assumes that all the "private range" hosts are part of your network, and the first non-private. However, in this case, the first non-private is yahoo's server. That's bad. Jim Davis

Re: Received header unparseable

2006-09-27 Thread benthere-nine
A second attempt tests much better. Added at line 747: # Received: from ([10.0.0.6]) by myfirewalll; Thu, # 13 Mar 2003 06:26:21 -0500 (EST) if (/^from \(\[(${IP_ADDRESS})\]\) by myfirewall/) { $mta_looked_up_dns = 1; $helo = $1; $ip = $1; $by = 'myfirewall'; goto enough;

Re: sa-learn and "Caught" spams

2006-09-27 Thread Daniel Staal
--As of September 27, 2006 5:43:28 PM -0700, Kelson is alleged to have said: Daniel T. Staal wrote: True. So... Optimal is obviously to train, once and correctly, on all messages. Sending a message through that has been trained will consume *some* resources, but less then one that still need

Re: an stupide config question

2006-09-27 Thread Matt Kettler
Philippe Couas wrote: > Hi, > > I have migrate from Spamassassin 2.63 to 3.15.1, that' seems running, > somes mail are flaged and rpm -a seee new version. > But previously rules and local.cf was in /etc/mail/spamassasin, and > theses files are not modified by my rpm -Uvh. The "Stock" rules should

Re: sa-learn and "Caught" spams

2006-09-27 Thread Matt Kettler
Bill Horne wrote: > > I have a "follow on" question, so I'll add it to this thread: > > Assuming that it's a good idea to feed "Caught" spams through sa-learn > in order to reinforce the tokens that might not have been autolearned, > how do I tell SA to ignore the " SPAM " notice in the sub

Re: sa-learn and "Caught" spams

2006-09-27 Thread Kelson
Daniel T. Staal wrote: True. So... Optimal is obviously to train, once and correctly, on all messages. Sending a message through that has been trained will consume *some* resources, but less then one that still needs to be learned. So the exact balance is a complicated question. ;) I just

Re: sa-learn and "Caught" spams

2006-09-27 Thread Matt Kettler
Daniel T. Staal wrote: > > While I in general agree with this, I was under the impression that > spamassassin will auto-learn from messages it marks. (At least, past a > certain threshold.) Actually, that's not entirely true. There's more than just a threshold. Actually, the score you see isn't

Re: Non-blocklisted embedded URLs are getting hits on URIBL_AB_SURBL and URIBL_PH_SURBL in SpamAssassin 3.1.5

2006-09-27 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 02:26:41PM -0700, Donald Craig wrote: > I'm getting matches whenever I have an embedded URL > on URIBL_AB_SURBL and URIBL_PH_SURBL - You're not by chance using the opendns.{com,org} folks for DNS, are you? -- Randomly Selected Tagline: "You can tell that I got this out fr

Non-blocklisted embedded URLs are getting hits on URIBL_AB_SURBL and URIBL_PH_SURBL in SpamAssassin 3.1.5

2006-09-27 Thread Donald Craig
I'm getting matches whenever I have an embedded URL on URIBL_AB_SURBL and URIBL_PH_SURBL - unless the URL is actually in URIBL_SBL, in which case the logic for all the flavors of URIBL_XX_SURBL seems to work correctly. I have verified the absence of the incorrectly matching URLs from SURBL with lo

RE: duplicate emails

2006-09-27 Thread Steve Ingraham
Loren Wilton wrote: >occa_phishing.cf >occa_replica.cf >I have no knowledge of these. >From the rules you show these aren't particularly worthwhile (nor all that >well written rules). There are a number of SARE rules that cover this area >much more thoroughly, and I believe these days

Re: sa-learn and "Caught" spams

2006-09-27 Thread Bill Horne
On Wed, 2006-09-27 at 06:37 +, Mike Woods wrote: > Hi guys, bit of a query regarding sa-learn and messages that have > already been tagged as spam. > > We have spamassassin scanning mail via amavisd and sending any caught > spams to a spam folder in the users accounts (using plus addressing)

RE: Newbie Rule Question

2006-09-27 Thread John D. Hardin
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006, Shue, Daniel G. wrote: > # Catch anything from 8:00 PM to 6:00 AM and score it > header RCVD_AT_NIGHT Date =~ /..., .. ... [0,2][0-5]:..:..*/ > score RCVD_AT_NIGHT 0.001 > describeRCVD_AT_NIGHT Email was received between 8:00PM and > 6:00AM If you want t

RE: Stats of rules ?

2006-09-27 Thread Bowie Bailey
Chris wrote: > On Tuesday 26 September 2006 2:50 pm, Bowie Bailey wrote: > > Noc Phibee wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > on my spamassassin server, i use a lot of rules .. > > > personnal and downloaded. > > > > > > Anyone know if they have a tools for know in 24h or 48h > > > if a rules are used or n

RE: Newbie Rule Question

2006-09-27 Thread Shue, Daniel G.
Ok guys, I figured it out... w/ Loren's help of course! :) Here's what I came up with: # Catch anything from 8:00 PM to 6:00 AM and score it header RCVD_AT_NIGHT Date =~ /..., .. ... [0,2][0-5]:..:..*/ score RCVD_AT_NIGHT 0.001 describeRCVD_AT_NIGHT Email was received between

RE: Newbie Rule Question

2006-09-27 Thread Brent Kennedy
Nice, I like that! Most of our spam also comes in during the wee hours of the morning.. I think adding a half point or even a point would help even more. Though, I have trained and continue to train both of my servers and they are pretty effective. We get 3500 mails a day of which 70% are classi

spamassassin 3.1.4

2006-09-27 Thread Richard
installed this today, removed bogofilter... also installed spamc, notice one of the suggested installs was libnet-ident-perl, is anyone using this, with spamassassin ? or is this a sparate module by itself. Regards - Richard

Re: Q. about spam directed towards highest MX Record?

2006-09-27 Thread DAve
Rob McEwen wrote: (CCing Marc Perkel because I seem to recall him knowing about this) Not that I'd ever outright block based on this one factor alone, but... Does anyone have any stats about what percentage of spam is directed towards the highest MX Record? (that is, where there is more than on

Re: Newbie Rule Question

2006-09-27 Thread Loren Wilton
I need to check, "Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:17:17 -0400" and I've looked Quite ignoring the arguments people will make against this (including me) you could do something like the following. Of course remember the date header is when the mail was made in whatever timezone it was made, not in Y

Re: Newbie Rule Question

2006-09-27 Thread Peter Smith
> Hi folks, > I'm a newbie to SA and have looked at a few tutorials on writing > custom rules, but they all seem to be too simple for what I want to do. > That, or I'm not smart enough to figure it out on my own. What I'm > needing is some guidance on how to write a custom rule that looks at

Newbie Rule Question

2006-09-27 Thread Shue, Daniel G.
Hi folks, I'm a newbie to SA and have looked at a few tutorials on writing custom rules, but they all seem to be too simple for what I want to do. That, or I'm not smart enough to figure it out on my own. What I'm needing is some guidance on how to write a custom rule that looks at the cre

Q. about spam directed towards highest MX Record?

2006-09-27 Thread Rob McEwen
(CCing Marc Perkel because I seem to recall him knowing about this) Not that I'd ever outright block based on this one factor alone, but... Does anyone have any stats about what percentage of spam is directed towards the highest MX Record? (that is, where there is more than one MX record?) Also,

Re: [qmailtoaster] duplicate emails

2006-09-27 Thread Loren Wilton
Hi, have a look at rulesemporium.com There are descriptions of the rules, and definitely you should use only one out pof each set of similar named ones Wolfgang Hamann Be careful there. It depends on what you mean by "similarly named". It is perfectly valid to have 70_sare_html0.cf 70_sa

Re: sa-learn and "Caught" spams

2006-09-27 Thread Loren Wilton
Which means, for the orginal question, that re-learning the already caught spams will have very little effect other than wasting some processor cycles. Doing what he is doing right now is probably best. This is assuming that they were auto-learned. Not all system are configured for auto-learn

Re: duplicate emails

2006-09-27 Thread Loren Wilton
occa_phishing.cf occa_replica.cf I have no knowledge of these. From the rules you show these aren't particularly worthwhile (nor all that well written rules). There are a number of SARE rules that cover this area much more thoroughly, and I believe these days even a number of standar

RE: sa-learn and "Caught" spams

2006-09-27 Thread Bowie Bailey
Mike Woods wrote: > The internet is a great place for raising more questions than it > answers :D > > Given all the opinions I think I will move the caught spam's into the > learning cycle however i'm also going to make sure that each spam is > only ever fed through the system once, this wont be

RE: sa-learn and "Caught" spams

2006-09-27 Thread Rosenbaum, Larry M.
> From: Mike Woods [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The internet is a great place for raising more questions than it answers > :D > > Given all the opinions I think I will move the caught spam's into the > learning cycle however i'm also going to make sure that each spam is > only ever fed through t

RE: Migrate dependencies problem

2006-09-27 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 12:50:37 -0400, Bowie Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Benny Pedersen wrote: >> On Wed, September 27, 2006 16:26, Sietse van Zanen wrote: >> > It's best to use cpan for this. It's very easy to use and will >> > automagically resolve any dependencies. >> >> just one problem w

RE: Bayes poisoning (was Re: your mail)

2006-09-27 Thread Bowie Bailey
Peter Smith wrote: > > > The messages are simply a random stream of words, with punctuation > > > scattered in them. No HTML, no URLs being advertised, no excessive > > > capitalisation, just meaningless text. > > I'm cautious about feeding these messages to sa-learn as spam, in > case it has a ne

RE: Migrate dependencies problem

2006-09-27 Thread Bowie Bailey
Benny Pedersen wrote: > On Wed, September 27, 2006 16:26, Sietse van Zanen wrote: > > It's best to use cpan for this. It's very easy to use and will > > automagically resolve any dependencies. > > just one problem with cpan is it will not solve rpm depndice > > > Other way is find the modules on

FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD?

2006-09-27 Thread Jim Davis
This autoresponse from Yahoo abuse crept over the spam line, mostly because of a hit on FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD... but it's not clear from the headers why that would be. This is a from a Fedora Core 5 system running SpamAssassin 3.1.3 under amavisd-new 2.4.2: Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Recei

RE: your mail

2006-09-27 Thread Bowie Bailey
John D. Hardin wrote: > On Wed, 27 Sep 2006, Peter Smith wrote: > > > The messages are simply a random stream of words, with punctuation > > scattered in them. No HTML, no URLs being advertised, no excessive > > capitalisation, just meaningless text. > > Technically, then, it's not spam. Spam req

RE: [qmailtoaster] duplicate emails

2006-09-27 Thread hamann . w
Hi, have a look at rulesemporium.com There are descriptions of the rules, and definitely you should use only one out pof each set of similar named ones Wolfgang Hamann >> 70_sare_evilnum1.cf >> 70_sare_evilnum2.cf >> 70_sare_header0.cf >> 70_sare_header.cf >> 70_sare_header_eng.cf >> 70_sare_ht

RE: Migrate dependencies problem

2006-09-27 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Wed, September 27, 2006 16:26, Sietse van Zanen wrote: > It's best to use cpan for this. It's very easy to use and will automagically > resolve any > dependencies. just one problem with cpan is it will not solve rpm depndice > Other way is find the modules on http://rpmfind.net/ > Specify yo

Re: sa-learn and "Caught" spams

2006-09-27 Thread Mike Woods
The internet is a great place for raising more questions than it answers :D Given all the opinions I think I will move the caught spam's into the learning cycle however i'm also going to make sure that each spam is only ever fed through the system once, this wont be a problem since I already m

an stupide config question

2006-09-27 Thread Philippe Couas
Title: Message Hi,   I have migrate from Spamassassin 2.63 to 3.15.1, that' seems running, somes mail are flaged and rpm -a seee new version. But previously rules and local.cf was in /etc/mail/spamassasin, and theses files are not modified by my rpm -Uvh.   I want know if config files are a

Re: sa-learn and "Caught" spams

2006-09-27 Thread Daniel T. Staal
On Wed, September 27, 2006 11:38 am, Nels Lindquist said: > Daniel T. Staal wrote: > >> On Wed, September 27, 2006 11:10 am, Jim Maul said: >> >>> I believe that SA will not learn a message it has seen before so >>> multiple sa-learn's will not have any affect. >> >> Actually, that was my impressio

Re: sa-learn and "Caught" spams

2006-09-27 Thread Nels Lindquist
Daniel T. Staal wrote: > On Wed, September 27, 2006 11:10 am, Jim Maul said: > >> I believe that SA will not learn a message it has seen before so >> multiple sa-learn's will not have any affect. > > Actually, that was my impression too. > > Which means, for the orginal question, that re-learnin

Re: Received header unparseable

2006-09-27 Thread benthere-nine
In a desperate newbie attempt to fix this problem myself, I added the following lines to Received.pm at line 895: # Received: from ([10.0.0.6]) by myfirewalll; Thu, # 13 Mar 2003 06:26:21 -0500 (EST) if (/^from \(\[(${IP_ADDRESS})\]\) by myfirewall/) { $ip = $1; $by = 'my.firewa

Re: sa-learn and "Caught" spams

2006-09-27 Thread Daniel T. Staal
On Wed, September 27, 2006 11:10 am, Jim Maul said: > Daniel T. Staal wrote: >> On Wed, September 27, 2006 10:43 am, Matt Kettler said: >>> Mike Woods wrote: Hi guys, bit of a query regarding sa-learn and messages that have already been tagged as spam. We have spamassassin scann

RE: duplicate emails

2006-09-27 Thread Steve Ingraham
>sa-blacklist.cf >sa-blacklist.current.uri.cf >Get rid of these! They are evil and probably the root of your problem! > (They are also long depreciated and very out of date, so wouldn't be doing >much even if they didn't kill your system.) I have removed those from /etc/mail/spamassass

Re: sa-learn and "Caught" spams

2006-09-27 Thread Jim Maul
Daniel T. Staal wrote: On Wed, September 27, 2006 10:43 am, Matt Kettler said: Mike Woods wrote: Hi guys, bit of a query regarding sa-learn and messages that have already been tagged as spam. We have spamassassin scanning mail via amavisd and sending any caught spams to a spam folder in the us

Re: sa-learn and "Caught" spams

2006-09-27 Thread Daniel T. Staal
On Wed, September 27, 2006 10:43 am, Matt Kettler said: > Mike Woods wrote: >> Hi guys, bit of a query regarding sa-learn and messages that have >> already been tagged as spam. >> >> We have spamassassin scanning mail via amavisd and sending any caught >> spams to a spam folder in the users account

Bayes poisoning (was Re:)

2006-09-27 Thread Peter Smith
> Are you runing net tests? It sounds like someone has a broken zombie net > that is supposed to be sending out gif spams, but they forgot the images. > Net tests would probably catch these easily. Well I'm using the following: score DCC_CHECK 1.0 score PYZOR_CHECK 1.0 score RAZOR_CHECK 1.0 scor

Bayes poisoning (was Re: your mail)

2006-09-27 Thread Peter Smith
>> The messages are simply a random stream of words, with punctuation >> scattered in them. No HTML, no URLs being advertised, no excessive >> capitalisation, just meaningless text. > > Technically, then, it's not spam. Spam requires a commercial message > of some sort. :) Yeah, I think I said 'j

Re: sa-learn and "Caught" spams

2006-09-27 Thread Matt Kettler
Mike Woods wrote: > Hi guys, bit of a query regarding sa-learn and messages that have > already been tagged as spam. > > We have spamassassin scanning mail via amavisd and sending any caught > spams to a spam folder in the users accounts (using plus addressing), > we've also been getting users to d

Re: your mail

2006-09-27 Thread John D. Hardin
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006, Peter Smith wrote: > The messages are simply a random stream of words, with punctuation > scattered in them. No HTML, no URLs being advertised, no excessive > capitalisation, just meaningless text. Technically, then, it's not spam. Spam requires a commercial message of some s

RE: Migrate dependencies problem

2006-09-27 Thread Sietse van Zanen
Title: Message It's best to use cpan for this. It's very easy to use and will automagically resolve any dependencies.   Other way is find the modules on http://rpmfind.net/ Specify your search as perl-net-dns etc.   -Sietse   From: Philippe CouasSent: Wed 27-Sep-06 16:15To: users@spamassassin.

Re: [qmailtoaster] duplicate emails

2006-09-27 Thread Loren Wilton
sa-blacklist.cf sa-blacklist.current.uri.cf Get rid of these! They are evil and probably the root of your problem! (They are also long depreciated and very out of date, so wouldn't be doing much even if they didn't kill your system.) occa_phishing.cf occa_replica.cf I have no kn

Migrate dependencies problem

2006-09-27 Thread Philippe Couas
Title: Message Hi,   I want Migrate from SpamAssasin 2.63 to 3.15.1 on my MailServer on Redhat9   1 i use perl 5.8.0 2 i have stoped spamd 3 run "sa-relearn --rebuild" 4 rpm -Uvh spamassassin-3.1.5-1.rh9.rf.i386.rpm    warning: spamassassin-3.1.5-1.rh9.rf.i3

Re: sa-learn and "Caught" spams

2006-09-27 Thread Matthias Haegele
Mike Woods schrieb: Hi guys, bit of a query regarding sa-learn and messages that have already been tagged as spam. We have spamassassin scanning mail via amavisd and sending any caught spams to a spam folder in the users accounts (using plus addressing), we've also been getting users to drop

RE: [qmailtoaster] duplicate emails

2006-09-27 Thread Steve Ingraham
Jdow wrote: >Steve, it might help if you listed which rule sets. There are some >which are obscenely large and others that are obsolete. Maybe we >can prune the list for you a little. As some have mentioned I may have too many rules. I would like to know what is a must have and what I should not

sa-learn and "Caught" spams

2006-09-27 Thread Mike Woods
Hi guys, bit of a query regarding sa-learn and messages that have already been tagged as spam. We have spamassassin scanning mail via amavisd and sending any caught spams to a spam folder in the users accounts (using plus addressing), we've also been getting users to drop any missed spams into

Re: performance question

2006-09-27 Thread Patrick Ben Koetter
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > As we have seen the amount of incoming mail increase by 25% in the last > few months, our customer is willing to invest in an extra mail relay. > I was thinking about a system with Sun's T1 chipset, (like the sunfire > T1000), I'm thinking the t

Re: performance question

2006-09-27 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > As we have seen the amount of incoming mail increase by 25% in the last > few months, our customer is willing to invest in an extra mail relay. > I was thinking about a system with Sun's T1 chipset, (like the sunfire > T1000), I'm thinking the t

Re: performance question

2006-09-27 Thread tomvo
Hi, As we have seen the amount of incoming mail increase by 25% in the last few months, our customer is willing to invest in an extra mail relay. I was thinking about a system with Sun's T1 chipset, (like the sunfire T1000), I'm thinking the threaded nature of this chipset would work well with

RE:

2006-09-27 Thread Michael Scheidell
> -Original Message- > From: Peter Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 8:08 PM > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: > > > Hi, > > Over the last week, my machine (Fedora, SA 3.1.3, qmail, > qmail-scanner-queue.pl) has been recieving a fair amo

Re: performance question

2006-09-27 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > I would like your opinion if our mailrelay is properly tuned: > > I have a mailrelay (sendmail / mimedefang / spamassassin with fuzzyocr, > razor and dcc) running on a Sun V20Z with 6 GB Ram and 2 AMD 1.8Ghz cpu's > on Solaris 10. > it curren

Re: performance question

2006-09-27 Thread Martin Hepworth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I would like your opinion if our mailrelay is properly tuned: I have a mailrelay (sendmail / mimedefang / spamassassin with fuzzyocr, razor and dcc) running on a Sun V20Z with 6 GB Ram and 2 AMD 1.8Ghz cpu's on Solaris 10. it currently handles 95000 mails per da

performance question

2006-09-27 Thread tomvo
Hi, I would like your opinion if our mailrelay is properly tuned: I have a mailrelay (sendmail / mimedefang / spamassassin with fuzzyocr, razor and dcc) running on a Sun V20Z with 6 GB Ram and 2 AMD 1.8Ghz cpu's on Solaris 10. it currently handles 95000 mails per day (most of it spam ofcourse

Re: Infuriating gif spam...

2006-09-27 Thread Steve [Spamassasin]
Bill Landry wrote: >> Version 2.3j works much better... I'd previously been using version >> 2.3b for which I had an ebuild for gentoo. >> >> One thing I have noticed, however, is a number of errors/warnings which >> spamd sticks into /var/log/messages when it is started: >> >> -- >> Sep 26 17:20