Re: bayes not run on some mail

2006-08-13 Thread Beast
Nigel Frankcom wrote: On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 12:21:16 +0700, Beast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, From some (spam) mail which not caught by SA, it seems that bayes is not applied to this mail. X-Spam-Report: * 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message * 1.7 SARE_SPEC_ROLEX Rol

Re: bayes not run on some mail

2006-08-13 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 12:21:16 +0700, Beast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi, > > From some (spam) mail which not caught by SA, it seems that bayes is >not applied to this mail. > >X-Spam-Report: > * 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message > * 1.7 SARE_SPEC_ROLEX Rolex watch spam >X-S

Re: bayes not run on some mail

2006-08-13 Thread Beast
jdow wrote: From: "Beast" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, From some (spam) mail which not caught by SA, it seems that bayes is not applied to this mail. X-Spam-Report: * 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message * 1.7 SARE_SPEC_ROLEX Rolex watch spam X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.7 requi

Re: bayes not run on some mail

2006-08-13 Thread jdow
From: "Beast" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, From some (spam) mail which not caught by SA, it seems that bayes is not applied to this mail. X-Spam-Report: * 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message * 1.7 SARE_SPEC_ROLEX Rolex watch spam X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.7 required=5.2 tests

bayes not run on some mail

2006-08-13 Thread Beast
Hi, From some (spam) mail which not caught by SA, it seems that bayes is not applied to this mail. X-Spam-Report: * 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message * 1.7 SARE_SPEC_ROLEX Rolex watch spam X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.7 required=5.2 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SARE_SPEC_ROLEX au

Re: autolearn never learn

2006-08-13 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 11:21:00AM +0700, Beast wrote: > From my understanding, SA should automatically learn any mail which has > score > 12 as spam and < 0.2 as a ham. Am I correct? http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/AutolearningNotWorking -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "In politics, absurdi

autolearn never learn

2006-08-13 Thread Beast
local.cf: bayes_auto_learn 1 bayes_auto_learn_threshold_nonspam 0.2 bayes_auto_learn_threshold_spam 12.0 spam: - *X-Spam-Status:* Yes, score=17.9 required=5.2 tests=ADVANCE_FEE_1,ADVANCE_FEE_2, ADVANCE_FEE_3,ADVANCE_FEE_4,BAYES_99,DEAR_FRIEND,HTML_00_10, HTM

Re: Razor vs Pyzor

2006-08-13 Thread John Andersen
On Sunday 13 August 2006 02:12, David Baron wrote: > Which is best and what do these actauly offer over spamassassin's own > rulesets? The intent of Razor is to use hashes of the body to identify spam by comparing it to previously reported spam.Spam previously trapped by other means is report

Re: Report

2006-08-13 Thread Robert Nicholson
Could it be because the use the following Content Type? Content-Type: audio/x-wav; name="hwrs.exe" disguising a .exe as a wav? On Aug 13, 2006, at 5:17 PM, jdow wrote: SpamAssassin is not an anti-virus tool. {^_^} - Original Message - From: "Robert Nicholson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A

Re: SARE sa-update channels available!

2006-08-13 Thread DAve
Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: On 8/13/2006 4:49 PM, DAve wrote: Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: Hello all, For those of you interested in SpamAssassin's sa-update, I've created sa-update channels for all of the rules found at the SpamAssassin Rules Emporium website (http://www.rulesemporium.com/rules.h

Re: Registrar RBL: nomination and scoring

2006-08-13 Thread jdow
From: "John Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Aug 13, 2006, at 8:41 AM, John D. Hardin wrote: There still remains the question about what **exactly** should the numerator and the denominator be when calculating that percentage? Any ideas yet? Not from me. I don't know either. I base the gen

Re: SARE sa-update channels available!

2006-08-13 Thread Loren Wilton
channel update will fail) since the file doesn't pass a --lint test if the SPF plugin isn't enabled. I've sent mail to Bob about this. I'm hoping that he adds the missing ifplugin lines soon. See SA bug 5044. Bob's been REAL busy lately on his day job, but we're hoping he will get a little b

Re: Registrar RBL: nomination and scoring

2006-08-13 Thread John D. Hardin
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006, John Rudd wrote: > I like the idea of an RBL gives ratings instead of binary values. > That's why I thought of it being a "confidence percentage" instead > of just a "yes, we have them listed in the zone". How to build > that confidence rating is another matter entirely. T

Re: Report

2006-08-13 Thread jdow
SpamAssassin is not an anti-virus tool. {^_^} - Original Message - From: "Robert Nicholson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Are you saying that 25_antivirus.cf doesn't have MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE in 3.11? On Aug 13, 2006, at 3:10 PM, Loren Wilton wrote: Because MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE didn't hit o

Re: Registrar RBL: nomination and scoring

2006-08-13 Thread jdow
From: "John D. Hardin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Sun, 13 Aug 2006, Benny Pedersen wrote: On Sun, August 13, 2006 02:11, John D. Hardin wrote: > On Sat, 12 Aug 2006, John Rudd wrote: > > 127.0.0.1 ... 127.0.0.100 perhaps? How would a rule to score points > based on the returned IP look? Can/does S

Re: SARE sa-update channels available!

2006-08-13 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
On 8/13/2006 4:49 PM, DAve wrote: Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: Hello all, For those of you interested in SpamAssassin's sa-update, I've created sa-update channels for all of the rules found at the SpamAssassin Rules Emporium website (http://www.rulesemporium.com/rules.htm). Ya stole my thunder

Re: Registrar RBL: nomination and scoring

2006-08-13 Thread John Rudd
On Aug 13, 2006, at 8:41 AM, John D. Hardin wrote: There still remains the question about what **exactly** should the numerator and the denominator be when calculating that percentage? Any ideas yet? Not from me. I don't know either. I base the general idea on the IronPort "Sender Base

Re: SARE sa-update channels available!

2006-08-13 Thread DAve
Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: Hello all, For those of you interested in SpamAssassin's sa-update, I've created sa-update channels for all of the rules found at the SpamAssassin Rules Emporium website (http://www.rulesemporium.com/rules.htm). Ya stole my thunder. I just came in from running a chain

Re: LOG: Re: Report

2006-08-13 Thread Robert Nicholson
Do I have to specifically enable that plugin? I have that installed.On Aug 13, 2006, at 3:22 PM, Michele Neylon :: Blacknight.ie wrote:    Accepting to folder lists/unix/spamassassin-usersFrom: "Michele Neylon :: Blacknight.ie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: August 13, 2006 3:22:04 PM CDTTo: Robert Nicho

Re: Report

2006-08-13 Thread Michele Neylon :: Blacknight.ie
Robert Nicholson wrote: > Are you saying that 25_antivirus.cf doesn't have MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE in > 3.11? > That requires an extra plugin from what I can see: # Requires the Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::AntiVirus plugin be loaded. -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Quality Business Ho

Re: Report

2006-08-13 Thread Robert Nicholson
Are you saying that 25_antivirus.cf doesn't have MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE in 3.11?On Aug 13, 2006, at 3:10 PM, Loren Wilton wrote:Because MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE didn't hit on that message? Because MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE was a 2.x rule that was deleted in 3.0 and you are runing 3.1.1?     Loren- Ori

Re: Report

2006-08-13 Thread Loren Wilton
Because MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE didn't hit on that message?   Because MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE was a 2.x rule that was deleted in 3.0 and you are runing 3.1.1?           Loren - Original Message - From: Robert Nicholson To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Sent: Sunday, Augus

Fwd: Report

2006-08-13 Thread Robert Nicholson
Why isn'tscore MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE 20bumping the score up on these mails that have .exe attachments?Begin forwarded message:From: "Microsoft Internet Message Delivery System" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: August 13, 2006 2:41:15 PM CDTTo: "Network Client" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: ReportX-Spam-Dcc: :

Re: Registrar RBL: nomination and scoring

2006-08-13 Thread John D. Hardin
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006, David Cary Hart wrote: > I don't disagree with any of this. In fact, this could be a very > powerful economic boycott which is why I thought about it. I am > only pointing our the administrative difficulties. > > How would you suggest the query mechanism works? I Most whois >

Re: Improved OCR Plugin with approximate matching

2006-08-13 Thread decoder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 decoder wrote: > Hello there, > > I have improved the original OcrPlugin (found at > http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/OcrPlugin), so it contains > fuzzy matching. Like that, mistakes made by the OCR recognition or > intentional obfuscations in the t

Re: Registrar RBL: nomination and scoring

2006-08-13 Thread David Cary Hart
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 10:26:28 -0700 (PDT), "John D. Hardin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> opined: > > Registrars' Terms of Service should be publicly available for > review; standards for ToS treatment of spammer behavior should be > fairly easy to develop and apply. > > Registrars' responsiveness to compla

Re: Registrar RBL: nomination and scoring

2006-08-13 Thread John D. Hardin
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006, David Cary Hart wrote: > > > b) have an RBL which returns different values for different > > > confidence levels. > > > > 127.0.0.1 ... 127.0.0.100 perhaps? How would a rule to score points > > based on the returned IP look? > > I actually considered doing this. However: >

Re: Registrar RBL: nomination and scoring

2006-08-13 Thread David Cary Hart
On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 17:11:34 -0700 (PDT), "John D. Hardin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> opined: > On Sat, 12 Aug 2006, John Rudd wrote: > > > If someone does make a Registrar RBL and a Name Server RBL (both > > of which are good ideas), _PLEASE_ do something like this: > > > > a) have two lists for each R

Re: users@spamassassin.apache.org

2006-08-13 Thread Loren Wilton
So one does not need to actually use Razor explicitely? One does not need to use razor at all. It is a network test, and you can run with network test disabled. You can also run with network tests enabled, but specifically disable Razor. And I'm sure there are many admins that do this for

Re: users@spamassassin.apache.org

2006-08-13 Thread David Baron
On Sunday 13 August 2006 18:44, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 09:08:50AM -0400, Michael Di Martino wrote: > > So how does razor differ over SA's ruleset? > > Razor compares MIME part hashes and URI domain hashes to a central > database where people have reported that "this is spa

Re: users@spamassassin.apache.org

2006-08-13 Thread John D. Hardin
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006, Michael Di Martino wrote: > > Which is best and what do these actauly offer over spamassassin's own > > rulesets? > > So how does razor differ over SA's ruleset? The basic difference is that SA rules try to analyze the message to determine "does this message look like spam?

Re: users@spamassassin.apache.org

2006-08-13 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 09:08:50AM -0400, Michael Di Martino wrote: > So how does razor differ over SA's ruleset? Razor compares MIME part hashes and URI domain hashes to a central database where people have reported that "this is spam". SA's ruleset looks for spammy components of messages, inclu

Re: Registrar RBL: nomination and scoring

2006-08-13 Thread John D. Hardin
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006, Benny Pedersen wrote: > On Sun, August 13, 2006 02:11, John D. Hardin wrote: > > On Sat, 12 Aug 2006, John Rudd wrote: > > > > 127.0.0.1 ... 127.0.0.100 perhaps? How would a rule to score points > > based on the returned IP look? Can/does SA cache the returned IP and > > test

RE: Registrar RBL: nomination and scoring

2006-08-13 Thread John D. Hardin
On Sat, 12 Aug 2006, Rob McEwen wrote: > >I'm not sure zone transfers will be feasible, since the registrar > >determination will be made dynamically. > > I think, to prevent processing overloads, you might want to cache > results at least for a period of minutes and not recalculate > results for

Re: users@spamassassin.apache.org

2006-08-13 Thread Justin Mason
Michael Di Martino writes: > > Which is best and what do these actauly offer over spamassassin's own > > rulesets? > > > > So how does razor differ over SA's ruleset? it's entirely different -- it's a hash-sharing system, with parts similar to SURBL. Hard to tell, really, though, as it's prop

users@spamassassin.apache.org

2006-08-13 Thread Michael Di Martino
> Which is best and what do these actauly offer over spamassassin's own > rulesets? > So how does razor differ over SA's ruleset? Regards, Michael Di Martino Director of MIS The telx Group Office: 212 480 3300 X.2022 Cell: 646 207 6603 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent from my B

Re: SPF softfail when mail has been forwarded from another domain

2006-08-13 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Sun, August 13, 2006 10:46, Andreas Pettersson wrote: > What can I do to prevent this from happening? generic there is 2 solutions 1: stop using forwarding 2: setup trusted_networks to include ip of the forwarding mta's ip both should help on your problem forwarding realy sooks -- Benny

RE: Razor vs Pyzor

2006-08-13 Thread Michael Scheidell
> -Original Message- > From: David Baron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 6:12 AM > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Razor vs Pyzor > > > Which is best and what do these actauly offer over spamassassin's own > rulesets? > Pyzor was a fork of razor

Re: SPAM: Increase in targeted spams

2006-08-13 Thread Michael Scheidell
John Rudd wrote: > > On Aug 12, 2006, at 7:42 AM, Michael Scheidell wrote: > >>> It is very easy to unsubscribe at >>> genutrust.com/trust . It would be impossible to get all the >> >> Even easier to add scores to SA rules so that thousands of users don't >> have to individually unsubscribe from yo

Re: SPF softfail when mail has been forwarded from another domain

2006-08-13 Thread Andreas Pettersson
Loren Wilton wrote: I've noticed a problem. We receive a few legit mails that has travelled through a forwarder. That causes some problems for the SPF check. Since the mail claiming to be from hotmail clearly doesn't arrive directly from one of the machines listed in hotmail's spf record, the

Razor vs Pyzor

2006-08-13 Thread David Baron
Which is best and what do these actauly offer over spamassassin's own rulesets?

Re: SPF softfail when mail has been forwarded from another domain

2006-08-13 Thread Loren Wilton
I've noticed a problem. We receive a few legit mails that has travelled through a forwarder. That causes some problems for the SPF check. Since the mail claiming to be from hotmail clearly doesn't arrive directly from one of the machines listed in hotmail's spf record, the SPF_SOFTFAIL kicks in

SPF softfail when mail has been forwarded from another domain

2006-08-13 Thread Andreas Pettersson
Hi all. I've noticed a problem. We receive a few legit mails that has travelled through a forwarder. That causes some problems for the SPF check. Since the mail claiming to be from hotmail clearly doesn't arrive directly from one of the machines listed in hotmail's spf record, the SPF_SOFTFAIL

SARE sa-update channels available!

2006-08-13 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Hello all, For those of you interested in SpamAssassin's sa-update, I've created sa-update channels for all of the rules found at the SpamAssassin Rules Emporium website (http://www.rulesemporium.com/rules.htm). Brief directions for use are as follows: - download the channels' GPG key from:

Problems on Solaris x86

2006-08-13 Thread Pascal Maes
Hello, I have installed MailScanner (4.55.10-3) on a solaris 10 (x86) box. MailScanner is using SpamAssassin 3.1.4 I'm also using postfix and MailScanner is running as the user postfix. MailScanner, in debugging mode, is going fine. When I run spamassassin -D --lint (as user postfix) all is goi