Re: Is Spamassassin failing math?

2006-04-03 Thread Thomas Hochstein
Jason Marshall schrieb: > I'm sure I'm not the first one to suggest this, but why NOT always display > the numbers in their entirety? I can't think of any reason why a user > would say "please give me less accuracy and a lot more confusion in return > for fewer digits to parse". But I can - a

Re: running SA on multiple machines

2006-04-03 Thread David B Funk
On Mon, 3 Apr 2006, Matt Kettler wrote: [snip..] > (who on earth still uses SRV records for anything?) The 800 Lb Gorilla of Redmond. ;) Most modern Kerberos clients will use them to find KDCs if properly set up. -- Dave Funk University of Iowa College

warn: reporter: razor2 report failed

2006-04-03 Thread Chris
Maybe its my imagination, but it seems ever since the razor license was changed I get two or three of these when manually reporting a spam. The whole error is: warn: reporter: razor2 report failed: No such file or directory reporter: razor2 had unknown error during authenticate at /usr/lib/p

Re: running SA on multiple machines

2006-04-03 Thread Matt Kettler
Dave Stern wrote: > I'm trying to get SA working by remote connections and don't see it > consistantly working. > > Users kick off SA in their .procmailrc on our mail server which can't > handle > a more recent version of SA so we only have v2.64 installed locally. > (Don't > ask) > > What I'd like

Re: Install help for Spamassasian 3.1.1 on Fedora Core 4

2006-04-03 Thread Craig McLean
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Abel Jeffcoat wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to install the new version of Spamassasian on a new mail > server I building. I'm using Fedora Core 4, and I have the latest > updates for Perl, etc. > > When I attempt to install it via cpan. Does anyonr

Re: Is Spamassassin failing math?

2006-04-03 Thread Jason Marshall
As stated above: "That's rather ugly and creates a cluttered report". And as I stated below, I disagree. Yes, and it's unnecessary. Life is full of round-number issues. This one would have been pretty avoidable. accept rounding is unavoidable. People like rounded numbers because they are f

Re: Is Spamassassin failing math?

2006-04-03 Thread Matt Kettler
Jason Marshall wrote: >> But SA rounds that rule score to 1.7 to save display space. Most SA rules >> actually have scores with 3 decimal places. (ie: 1.268) > >> The "real" answer would be to always display 3-decimal place scores, >> but that's rather of ugly and creates a cluttered report. Howev

Re: Is Spamassassin failing math?

2006-04-03 Thread Jason Marshall
But SA rounds that rule score to 1.7 to save display space. Most SA rules actually have scores with 3 decimal places. (ie: 1.268) The "real" answer would be to always display 3-decimal place scores, but that's rather of ugly and creates a cluttered report. However, you'd always be 100% accurat

Re: Is Spamassassin failing math?

2006-04-03 Thread Matt Kettler
Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: > Jason Marshall wrote: >> X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_60,SARE_MLB_Stock1, >> TW_AQ autolearn=no version=3.1.0 >> X-Spam-Report: >> * 1.7 SARE_MLB_Stock1 BODY: SARE_MLB_Stock1 >> * 0.1 TW_AQ BODY: Odd Letter Triples with AQ >> *

Re: Delirium...

2006-04-03 Thread jdow
From: "Mike Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well, I was off on Vancouver Island for nearly a week, and didn't take a laptop with me... Clearly it caused some major trauma because I had the following hallucinatory idea: I was thinking about the issue in which sending spam isn't a crime in a lot

Re: Is Spamassassin failing math?

2006-04-03 Thread Jason Marshall
http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/RoundingIssues Thanks Daryl, I didn't realize the scores were actually accurate to 3 decimal places! Makes sense now, thanks! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- | Jason Marshall, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spots InterConn

Re: Is Spamassassin failing math?

2006-04-03 Thread Matt Kettler
Jason Marshall wrote: > X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_60,SARE_MLB_Stock1, > TW_AQ autolearn=no version=3.1.0 > X-Spam-Report: > * 1.7 SARE_MLB_Stock1 BODY: SARE_MLB_Stock1 > * 0.1 TW_AQ BODY: Odd Letter Triples with AQ > * 1.0 BAYES_60 BODY: Bayesian spam

Re: Is Spamassassin failing math?

2006-04-03 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Jason Marshall wrote: X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_60,SARE_MLB_Stock1, TW_AQ autolearn=no version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Report: * 1.7 SARE_MLB_Stock1 BODY: SARE_MLB_Stock1 * 0.1 TW_AQ BODY: Odd Letter Triples with AQ * 1.0 BAYES_60 BODY: Bayesian spam probabilit

Is Spamassassin failing math?

2006-04-03 Thread Jason Marshall
X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_60,SARE_MLB_Stock1, TW_AQ autolearn=no version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Report: * 1.7 SARE_MLB_Stock1 BODY: SARE_MLB_Stock1 * 0.1 TW_AQ BODY: Odd Letter Triples with AQ * 1.0 BAYES_60 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 60 to 80% *

RE: Delirium...

2006-04-03 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Don Levey wrote: >> and uses the presence of this copywritten key to match the >> appropriate string in the DNS as proof that the sender is who he >> says he is. >> >> -Philip > > Reminds me of Habeus... Indeed, this is almost exactly Habeas. http://www.habeas.com/ Spam Fighter Habeas Wins One

Re: OT: Delirium...

2006-04-03 Thread Kelson
Philip Prindeville wrote: And then had hosts participating in this scheme generate outgoing mail as: X-Yes-Its-Really-Me: XYZZY 123 456 (C) Copyright 2006 Redfish Solutions, LLC" and uses the presence of this copywritten key to match the appropriate string in the DNS as proof that the sender is

Re: Filtering windows-1252 charset

2006-04-03 Thread Philip Prindeville
If anyone would like to make use of it, I ended up using: # for mime headers... mimeheader __CTYPE_MH_TEXT_PLAIN Content-Type =~ /text\/plain/i mimeheader __CTYPE_MH_HTML Content-Type =~ /text\/html/i # don't allow windows-1252 text attachments... mimeheader __CTYPE_MH_WIN1252 Content-Type

Re: WTF is Plaxo.com?

2006-04-03 Thread mouss
Philip Prindeville wrote: Would it be worth adding a rule that has a low value that people can then increment as they see fit (like setting the score to 6.0)? That's not more spam than when you get confirmation for ML subscription. anybody can put your address on a mailman web interface, on a

RE: Install help for Spamassasian 3.1.1 on Fedora Core 4

2006-04-03 Thread Michael Shuler
1. Skip CPAN and just download the tar.gz file. 2. Extract it 3. Goto the Mail-SpamAssassin-3.1.1 you just extracted and type "make Makefile.PL" 4. make 5. make install There is a nice startup script under Mail-SpamAssassin-3.1.1/spamd called redhat-rc-script.sh. Just copy to your /etc/rc.d/i

Re: WTF is Plaxo.com?

2006-04-03 Thread Michele Neylon:: Blacknight.ie
Philip Prindeville wrote: > I periodically get automated emails from people I mostly don't know > or know only remotely asking me to update some contact information > for them... and it's always from Plaxo. Looking at the headers, the > origin looks legit. > > This seems to be a service that mai

Re: Filtering windows-1252 charset

2006-04-03 Thread Jonathan Armitage
Theo Van Dinter wrote: On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 12:07:00PM -0600, Philip Prindeville wrote: --=_NextPart_000_0016=_NextPart_000_0016 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Using: # don't allow windows-1252 text attachments... header __CT

RE: Delirium...

2006-04-03 Thread Don Levey
Philip Prindeville wrote: > > What if we had a TXT Record in the DNS for a domain that looked like: > > @IN TXT "XYZZY 123 456 (C) Copyright 2006 Redfish > Solutions, LLC" > > And then had hosts participating in this scheme generate outgoing > mail as: > > X-Yes-Its-Really-

Re: Filtering windows-1252 charset

2006-04-03 Thread Philip Prindeville
Theo Van Dinter wrote: >On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 12:07:00PM -0600, Philip Prindeville wrote: > > >>>--=_NextPart_000_0016=_NextPart_000_0016 >>>Content-Type: text/plain; >>>charset="Windows-1252" >>>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>> >>> >>> >>Using: >># don't allow windows

Re: WTF is Plaxo.com?

2006-04-03 Thread Matt Kettler
Philip Prindeville wrote: >> > > Would it be worth adding a rule that has a low value that people can then > increment as they see fit (like setting the score to 6.0)? Locally? sure.. In a downloadable add-on? maybe. In the SA distro? No. The main SA distro has no place containing policy rules

Re: Delirium...

2006-04-03 Thread Mike Jackson
Well, I was off on Vancouver Island for nearly a week, and didn't take a laptop with me... Clearly it caused some major trauma because I had the following hallucinatory idea: I was thinking about the issue in which sending spam isn't a crime in a lot of countries, or if it is that it's poorly

Re: OT: Delirium...

2006-04-03 Thread Philip Prindeville
That might not be necessary. A lot of ISP's have a zero tolerance policy for copyright infringement, even if they don't enforce spamming policy. -Philip Kevin W. Gagel wrote: >So everytime someone uses your copyrighted dns entry YOUR >going to: >Find them >Sue them >Prove in a court of law it

Re: OT: Delirium...

2006-04-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 03 April 2006 14:16, Philip Prindeville wrote: >Well, I was off on Vancouver Island for nearly a week, and didn't take > a laptop with me... Clearly it caused some major trauma because I > had the following hallucinatory idea: > >I was thinking about the issue in which sending spam isn't

Re: OT: Delirium...

2006-04-03 Thread Kevin W. Gagel
So everytime someone uses your copyrighted dns entry YOUR going to: Find them Sue them Prove in a court of law it was them etc... - Original Message - >Well, I was off on Vancouver Island for nearly a week, and >didn't take a laptop with me... Clearly it caused some >major trauma because

Re: Filtering windows-1252 charset

2006-04-03 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 12:07:00PM -0600, Philip Prindeville wrote: > > --=_NextPart_000_0016=_NextPart_000_0016 > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="Windows-1252" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > Using: > # don't allow windows-1252 text attachments... > header __CTYP

OT: Delirium...

2006-04-03 Thread Philip Prindeville
Well, I was off on Vancouver Island for nearly a week, and didn't take a laptop with me... Clearly it caused some major trauma because I had the following hallucinatory idea: I was thinking about the issue in which sending spam isn't a crime in a lot of countries, or if it is that it's poorly enf

Re: WTF is Plaxo.com?

2006-04-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 03 April 2006 12:59, Philip Prindeville wrote: >I periodically get automated emails from people I mostly don't know >or know only remotely asking me to update some contact information >for them... and it's always from Plaxo. Looking at the headers, the >origin looks legit. > >This seems

Filtering windows-1252 charset

2006-04-03 Thread Philip Prindeville
I was trying to filter messages like: > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Received: from redfish-solutions.com (ppp125-53.dsl-coc.eth.net > [61.11.125.53] (may be forged)) > by mail.redfish-solutions.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id > k1SGqvTs021448 > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue

Re: WTF is Plaxo.com?

2006-04-03 Thread Philip Prindeville
Matt Kettler wrote: > >http://socialsoftware.weblogsinc.com/2004/03/23/why-do-really-smart-people-hate-plaxo-so-much-or-tim-koogle/ >http://socialsoftware.weblogsinc.com/2004/03/24/plaxo-not-evil/ > > >http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=14545 > > >Based on the above it looks like a "social networ

Install help for Spamassasian 3.1.1 on Fedora Core 4

2006-04-03 Thread Abel Jeffcoat
Hello, I'm trying to install the new version of Spamassasian on a new mail server I building. I'm using Fedora Core 4, and I have the latest updates for Perl, etc. When I attempt to install it via cpan. Does anyonr of any experience getting Spamassasian installed on Fedora Core 4? Any help

Re: WTF is Plaxo.com?

2006-04-03 Thread Matt Kettler
Philip Prindeville wrote: > I periodically get automated emails from people I mostly don't know > or know only remotely asking me to update some contact information > for them... and it's always from Plaxo. Looking at the headers, the > origin looks legit. > > This seems to be a service that mai

Re: WTF is Plaxo.com?

2006-04-03 Thread Federico Voges
Philip Prindeville wrote: I periodically get automated emails from people I mostly don't know or know only remotely asking me to update some contact information for them... and it's always from Plaxo. Looking at the headers, the origin looks legit. This seems to be a service that maintains co

WTF is Plaxo.com?

2006-04-03 Thread Philip Prindeville
I periodically get automated emails from people I mostly don't know or know only remotely asking me to update some contact information for them... and it's always from Plaxo. Looking at the headers, the origin looks legit. This seems to be a service that maintains contact information for its use

running SA on multiple machines

2006-04-03 Thread Dave Stern
I'm trying to get SA working by remote connections and don't see it consistantly working. Users kick off SA in their .procmailrc on our mail server which can't handle a more recent version of SA so we only have v2.64 installed locally. (Don't ask) What I'd like to do is have a call in their .pr

Re: Randomly Not Scanning Messages

2006-04-03 Thread Matt Kettler
Michael Shuler wrote: > I am using Postfix and Spam Assassin. For some reason some messages that > are blatantly SPAM are not getting the X-Spam-Score added to them. They > show that they are received by Postfix (in the header) but they are not > scanned from what I can tell (X-Spam entries). Wh

Randomly Not Scanning Messages

2006-04-03 Thread Michael Shuler
I am using Postfix and Spam Assassin. For some reason some messages that are blatantly SPAM are not getting the X-Spam-Score added to them. They show that they are received by Postfix (in the header) but they are not scanned from what I can tell (X-Spam entries). When I had version 3.1.0 it was

Moving bayes from bdb to MySQL

2006-04-03 Thread Lars Ringh
I'm about to move my bayes and auto-whitelist data from local db-files on each server to a common MySQL-db. I have 2+2 load balanced servers scanning mail using amavisd-new for different kinds of customers, home and corporate users repectively, and I was planning to keep their respective dat

warning messages when running --lint -D

2006-04-03 Thread Joel Gudknecht
Just finished upgrading to v. 3.1.1 from 3.1.0. I'm also using the following SARE rules: 70_sare_adult.cf 70_sare_bayes_poison_nxm.cf 70_sare_evilnum0.cf 70_sare_evilnum1.cf 70_sare_evilnum2.cf 70_sare_genlsubj.cf 70_sare_header.cf 70_sare_highrisk.cf 70_sare_html.cf 70_sare_obfu.cf 70_sare_obfu2.