Re: Hotmail on sorbs?!?

2005-09-23 Thread email builder
> On Donnerstag, 22. September 2005 22:24 email builder wrote: > > How so? I can't believe you don't hear me when I say for the 100th > > time that services like ours that have a lot of users who expect to > > communicate with hotmail users cannot use an RBL in the MTA if it > > lists hotmail. >

RE: 3.04 to 3.1.0 impressions?

2005-09-23 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Friday, September 23, 2005 9:54 AM -0500 Herb Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have been using dev builds and each RC for a month or more and love it. It runs smoother and with fewer oddities than 3.04 etc. I have been on 3.10 since a couple of days after the release (it only took tha

Re: SA-3.1.0 permission problems

2005-09-23 Thread Przemek
On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 15:57:36 -0400 Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Looks like SA is being invoked as root, which causes it to fall back > to nobody.. Nobody doesn't have permissions to it's home dir (and > should not) so it fails. > > That should have been a problem for you in 3.0.4, but

Re: arrrgh.. debian sarge spamassassin worthless?

2005-09-23 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Matthew Lenz wrote: can SA read berkley db hash:'s like postfix does? something like trusted_networks = ... 123.123.121. ... hash:/var/lib/pop-before-smtp/hosts if so that would be very cool cuz just as that hash allows people to temporarily use postfix as a relay (it removes the entries from

Re: arrrgh.. debian sarge spamassassin worthless?

2005-09-23 Thread Matthew Lenz
can SA read berkley db hash:'s like postfix does? something like trusted_networks = ... 123.123.121. ... hash:/var/lib/pop-before-smtp/hosts if so that would be very cool cuz just as that hash allows people to temporarily use postfix as a relay (it removes the entries from the has after 30minu

Re: arrrgh.. debian sarge spamassassin worthless?

2005-09-23 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Matthew Lenz wrote: 1. do you control the IPs that your dial-up users are connecting from no.. they all connect from various isp's. 3. can you obtain enough pain medication to get them all to convert to auth'd SMTP connections? heh I thought about implementing it .. maybe i still can at s

Re: arrrgh.. debian sarge spamassassin worthless?

2005-09-23 Thread Matthew Lenz
sorry for the top post.. OE sucks. thanks for the packages Duncan :) i noticed that you don't use your people.debian.org location for packages (atleast that I saw) .. you could also stick em there I'm sure people would test em if it was easy to track them using apt. When they are in experi

Re: arrrgh.. debian sarge spamassassin worthless?

2005-09-23 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 02:08:40PM -0500, Matthew Lenz wrote: > it makes me wonder if maybe the debian guys messed with the rankings for > stuff from the URL block list matches. I'll have an email come through > that hits like 3 url block lists ..but gets an ALL_TRUSTED which cancels > them out.

Re: arrrgh.. debian sarge spamassassin worthless?

2005-09-23 Thread Matthew Lenz
Matthew Lenz wrote: ok. i think i got it. what parts of the headers does spamassassin look at for trusted_networks? my guess is that if there are any untrusted ip's mentioned in the received: headers it marks it as untrusted? Yeah, it trusts each received header starting from the top until it

Re: arrrgh.. debian sarge spamassassin worthless?

2005-09-23 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Matthew Lenz wrote: ok. i think i got it. what parts of the headers does spamassassin look at for trusted_networks? my guess is that if there are any untrusted ip's mentioned in the received: headers it marks it as untrusted? Yeah, it trusts each received header starting from the top until it

Re: arrrgh.. debian sarge spamassassin worthless?

2005-09-23 Thread Matthew Lenz
ok. i think i got it. what parts of the headers does spamassassin look at for trusted_networks? my guess is that if there are any untrusted ip's mentioned in the received: headers it marks it as untrusted? what about my pop-before-smtp users? they'll be relaying through the public ip sending

Re: trusted_networks use

2005-09-23 Thread Matt Kettler
Bowie Bailey wrote: > > My only question there was whether SA will implicitly trust the > machine it is running on. After all, if you can't trust yourself, who > can you trust? :) If you explicitly set trusted_networks, then no, it won't SA will only trust the hosts you tell it. If you don't ha

Re: trusted_networks use

2005-09-23 Thread NFN Smith
Matt Kettler wrote: Bowie Bailey wrote: Ok, so here is what I see as far as the mail path: - Sent from 24.249.175.230 ... untrusted - Received by 68.99.120.79 ... trusted - Received by pulsar.lfa.com ... untrusted (unless SA defaults the local machine) If pulsar.lfa.com is untrusted, a

Re: subject rewrite

2005-09-23 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Fri, 23 Sep 2005, Michael Barnes wrote: I prefer: rewrite_header Subject [SPAM-Score-_HITS_] == Chris Candreva -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- (914) 967-7816 WestNet Internet Services of Westchester http://www.westnet.com/

Re: arrrgh.. debian sarge spamassassin worthless?

2005-09-23 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Matthew Lenz wrote: any way to tell what it considers to be a trusted_network? we have 5 You can run a message through spamassassin -D to find out. In a nated environment it's going to guess wrong though, guaranteed. private segments and all those servers use postfix with a 'relayhost'

Re: arrrgh.. debian sarge spamassassin worthless?

2005-09-23 Thread Matthew Lenz
any way to tell what it considers to be a trusted_network? we have 5 private segments and all those servers use postfix with a 'relayhost' which resolves to the private ip address of our smtp server. all of our users also use this smtp server for sending mail from their desktops. they all n

RE: trusted_networks use

2005-09-23 Thread Bowie Bailey
From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Bowie Bailey wrote: > > > Ok, so here is what I see as far as the mail path: > > > > - Sent from 24.249.175.230 ... untrusted > > - Received by 68.99.120.79 ... trusted > > - Received by pulsar.lfa.com ... untrusted (unless SA defaults the > > l

Re: arrrgh.. debian sarge spamassassin worthless?

2005-09-23 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Matthew Lenz wrote: its _not_ set.. shouldn't that mean there are no trusted networks?.. unless the debian package is patched some how. It must be set. If it's not SpamAssassin has to guess at which networks/hosts are yours. p.s. actually i didn't think ALL_TRUSTED had to do with that sett

Re: subject rewrite

2005-09-23 Thread Michael Barnes
On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 03:43:23PM -0400, Robert Swan wrote: > Hello all, I am wondering if anyone knows how to get the score of the > SPAM in the subject line with the rewrite. Right now I rewrite the > subject line with [SPAM] at the beginning but it would be helpful to > see the score in the sam

Re: trusted_networks use

2005-09-23 Thread Matt Kettler
Bowie Bailey wrote: > Ok, so here is what I see as far as the mail path: > > - Sent from 24.249.175.230 ... untrusted > - Received by 68.99.120.79 ... trusted > - Received by pulsar.lfa.com ... untrusted (unless SA defaults the > local machine) > If pulsar.lfa.com is untrusted, all headers w

Re: arrrgh.. debian sarge spamassassin worthless?

2005-09-23 Thread Matthew Lenz
its _not_ set.. shouldn't that mean there are no trusted networks?.. unless the debian package is patched some how. -Matt p.s. actually i didn't think ALL_TRUSTED had to do with that setting.. i though maybe it only showed up if it didn't pass through any of the rbl relays. - Original M

RE: trusted_networks use

2005-09-23 Thread Bowie Bailey
From: NFN Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > From there, I've done more tinkering, but still not getting the > results I want. Another try on raw data. > > Starting with settings in sa-mimedefang.cf: > > > # IP addresses of trusted hosts -- use these instead of whitelisting our domains > > tru

Prefork efficiency

2005-09-23 Thread Lefteris Tsintjelis
Hi, I see a lot of forking ever since I switched to 3.1. Is there a way to tell the maximum and the average number of forks reached? If so, would it be more efficient in terms of speed to switch back to the old method or the difference is really negligible up to a certain number of forks? Thnx,

About qmail and SA

2005-09-23 Thread Shwetar (sent by Nabble.com)
Hi all, I posted yday about SA and how it does not seem to work at all for me... but I got no replies. :( spamassassin --lint seems to show no errors but I am not sure if qmail and qmail-scanner and SA are all communicating with each other. I am flooded with Spam and do not know what to do. Ple

Re: SA-3.1.0 permission problems

2005-09-23 Thread Matt Kettler
Przemek wrote: > Hi, > > I have spamassassin-3.1.0 runing as daemon from slackware-rc-script > included with sa. My sa work with qmail-scanner. > > Before updating form 3.0.4 everything was good, but now on 3.1.0 > after reciving mail i see this in logs: Looks like SA is being invoked as root, w

Re: arrrgh.. debian sarge spamassassin worthless?

2005-09-23 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Matthew Lenz wrote: it makes me wonder if maybe the debian guys messed with the rankings for stuff from the URL block list matches. I'll have an email come through that hits like 3 url block lists ..but gets an ALL_TRUSTED which cancels them out. You may want to consider properly setting your

Re: subject rewrite

2005-09-23 Thread JamesDR
Robert Swan wrote: Hello all, I am wondering if anyone knows how to get the score of the SPAM in the subject line with the rewrite. Right now I rewrite the subject line with [SPAM] at the beginning but it would be helpful to see the score in the same place. Also I attach the original e-mail an

Re: trusted_networks use

2005-09-23 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
NFN Smith wrote: Thus, in the results that I'm getting, I don't have something quite right in the combination of definitions between trusted_networks and whitelist_from_rcvd. From what I've figured out so far, I seem to be close, but I'm missing something small. Did you remember to restart y

Re: trusted_networks use

2005-09-23 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Bowie Bailey wrote: whitelist_from_rcvd You can use this instead of whitelist_from. It requires a bit more setup, but it is immune to the forgery problems of whitelist_from. Use this to list each valid domainname/mailserver combination. Note that this requires a correct interna

subject rewrite

2005-09-23 Thread Robert Swan
Hello all, I am wondering if anyone knows how to get the score of the SPAM in the subject line with the rewrite. Right now I rewrite the subject line with [SPAM] at the beginning but it would be helpful to see the score in the same place. Also I attach the original e-mail  and I use spamass

Re: trusted_networks use

2005-09-23 Thread NFN Smith
Bowie Bailey wrote: It's definitely coming from an external network. Yes, I understand that your servers are separated in different IP blocks and in different facilities, but that is irrelevant. When I say that the email is coming from an external network, what I mean is that it is origin

SA-3.1.0 permission problems

2005-09-23 Thread Przemek
Hi, I have spamassassin-3.1.0 runing as daemon from slackware-rc-script included with sa. My sa work with qmail-scanner. Before updating form 3.0.4 everything was good, but now on 3.1.0 after reciving mail i see this in logs: Sep 23 20:32:33 nasa spamd[19864]: spamd: server started on port 783/t

Re: arrrgh.. debian sarge spamassassin worthless?

2005-09-23 Thread Matthew Lenz
it makes me wonder if maybe the debian guys messed with the rankings for stuff from the URL block list matches. I'll have an email come through that hits like 3 url block lists ..but gets an ALL_TRUSTED which cancels them out. -Matt On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 14:04 -0400, Fred wrote: > I have been se

Re: Oddities since change to 3.1

2005-09-23 Thread Matt Kettler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Indeed nobody have /nonexistent as home directory > > My problem is that I did not change anything from the 3.0.2 setup and > now the system does not work as it did. The .spamassassin file is in > /root and always has been. The question is how to make it work again. T

Re: DnsResolver and Received.pm issues?

2005-09-23 Thread Matthew Yette
On 9/23/05 2:37 PM, "Matthew Yette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After upgrading 3.0.4 to 3.1.0, I get this in maillog: > > Sep 23 14:32:05 MAILER-02 spamd[26236]: spamd: checking message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for qscand:511 > Sep 23 14:32:05 MAILER-02 spamd[26236]: Can't call method "string"

Re: Oddities since change to 3.1

2005-09-23 Thread jpff
Indeed nobody have /nonexistent as home directory My problem is that I did not change anything from the 3.0.2 setup and now the system does not work as it did. The .spamassassin file is in /root and always has been. The question is how to make it work again. ==John ffitch

DnsResolver and Received.pm issues?

2005-09-23 Thread Matthew Yette
After upgrading 3.0.4 to 3.1.0, I get this in maillog: Sep 23 14:32:05 MAILER-02 spamd[26236]: spamd: checking message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for qscand:511 Sep 23 14:32:05 MAILER-02 spamd[26236]: Can't call method "string" on an undefined value at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/Mail/SpamAssassin/Dn

Re: 3.04 to 3.1.0 impressions?

2005-09-23 Thread Fred
Matthew Yette wrote: > For those who went from 3.0.4 to the latest release candidate, would > you say it's a worthy upgrade? Where do you see the largest benefits? > Is it overall a good move if you're currently pretty satisfied with > 3.0.4? > > Matt I love the new ReplaceTags plugin, I would rec

Re: RulesDuJour; lint failes

2005-09-23 Thread Fred
Run spamassassin --lint on this server and fix the errors you have and then once all is running well, go back and try rulesDuJour. You'll get better results for sure :) Thijs Koetsier | Exception wrote: > Hi, > > No, I did not. > I just re-installed Rules Du Jour and am using Spamassassin 3 on t

Re: arrrgh.. debian sarge spamassassin worthless?

2005-09-23 Thread Fred
I have been seeing a large increase in spam overall, I wouldn't be so sure if it's anything you caused. Matthew Lenz wrote: > so much spam is getting in since I switched to sarge. anyone else > have this problem? it looks like the tests are working but stuff > that is so obviously spam is get

supplying PERL5LIB in Makefile

2005-09-23 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, in order to fix my Perl module trouble, I tried to supply PERL5LIB in the Makefile. PERL5LIB=/usr/local/share/amavisd-new/i386-linux perl Makefile.PL works fine, now the correct version of Net::DNS is found - but only in the makefile. spamd still contains the wrong use lib, thus resulting

RE: 3.04 to 3.1.0 impressions?

2005-09-23 Thread Bret Miller
> For those who went from 3.0.4 to the latest release > candidate, would you say it's a worthy upgrade? Where do you > see the largest benefits? Is it overall a good move if you're > currently pretty satisfied with 3.0.4? I can't speak for other platforms, but for Windows users, I'd rate this is a

arrrgh.. debian sarge spamassassin worthless?

2005-09-23 Thread Matthew Lenz
so much spam is getting in since I switched to sarge. anyone else have this problem? it looks like the tests are working but stuff that is so obviously spam is getting right through. if i add -D to /etc/default/spamassassin:OPTIONS will the output go to the syslog? -Matt

Re: Bayes expiry/oddity

2005-09-23 Thread Chris Lear
* Chris Lear wrote (09/23/05 10:34): > I'm running a reasonably small site-wide spamassassin, and I use a > site-side bayes db. Spamassassin runs as the user spamd. > > I noticed that I got spam last night with no BAYES_XX markup. I looked > into it this morning, and discovered that the bayes db o

Re: Oddities since change to 3.1

2005-09-23 Thread Matt Kettler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am getting > > Sep 21 09:34:20 snout spamd[28958]: mkdir /nonexistent: Permission denied at > /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4/Mail/SpamAssassin.pm line 1467 > Sep 21 09:34:20 snout spamd[28958]: locker: safe_lock: cannot create tmp > lockfile > /nonexistent/.spamassass

Re: spamc command line option "-f"

2005-09-23 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 10:48:26AM +0200, Joerg Hartmann wrote: > I used http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/IntegratedSpamdInPostfix > for an howto to integrate SA within postfix. > > In this wiki-article there is a command line option "-f" for spamc > which i can not found in the manpage. So i d

Re: FUZZY rules

2005-09-23 Thread Irina
Found the problem. Should have toubleshoot myself more before posting. Irina = - Original Message - From: "Irina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 8:41 AM Subject: FUZZY rules > Hello all, > > I can not figure out why I have these errors when running

RE: 3.04 to 3.1.0 impressions?

2005-09-23 Thread Herb Martin
> From: Matthew Yette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > For those who went from 3.0.4 to the latest release > candidate, would you say it's a worthy upgrade? Where do you > see the largest benefits? Is it overall a good move if you're > currently pretty satisfied with 3.0.4? > 3.10 is not just at

Re: 3.04 to 3.1.0 impressions?

2005-09-23 Thread Jason Frisvold
On 9/23/05, Matthew Yette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For those who went from 3.0.4 to the latest release candidate, would you say > it's a worthy upgrade? Where do you see the largest benefits? Is it overall > a good move if you're currently pretty satisfied with 3.0.4? I've only done this so fa

3.04 to 3.1.0 impressions?

2005-09-23 Thread Matthew Yette
For those who went from 3.0.4 to the latest release candidate, would you say it's a worthy upgrade? Where do you see the largest benefits? Is it overall a good move if you're currently pretty satisfied with 3.0.4? Matt -- Matthew Yette Senior Engineer (NOC/Operations) M.A. Polce Consulting 315-83

RE: RulesDuJour; lint failes

2005-09-23 Thread Thijs Koetsier | Exception
Hi, No, I did not. I just re-installed Rules Du Jour and am using Spamassassin 3 on this server since I installed it. Cheers, Thijs > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Loren Wilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Verzonden: vrijdag 23 september 2005 15:46 > Aan: users@spamassassin.apache.org

RE: trusted_networks use

2005-09-23 Thread Bowie Bailey
From: NFN Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Bowie Bailey wrote: > > > >> > >>>X-Spam-Score: 6.87 (**) (required=4) > >>>tests=CLICK_BELOW,EXCUSE_3,FREE_CONSULTATION,MAILTO_TO_REMOVE, > >>>NO_OBLIGATION,ONE_TIME_MAILING,REMOVE_IN_QUOTES,REMOVE_SUBJ,RISK_FREE > > > > I don't see ALL_TRUSTED

Re: RulesDuJour; lint failes

2005-09-23 Thread Loren Wilton
Did you just move from 2.64 or earlier? It looks like you have some pre-3.0-only rules files. SOme of these appear to be standard SA rules files. Loren - Original Message - From: "Thijs Koetsier | Exception" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 5:02 AM Subject:

Warning with ssl-enabled spamd

2005-09-23 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
Hey all... I'm getting the following error in my maillogs: Sep 23 09:06:45 quark spamd[86481]: Use of uninitialized value in numeric lt (<) at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/IO/Socket/SSL.pm line 242. Here are my command line args: spamd_flags="-D -u spamd -i -A 65.125.237.232,65.125.2

FUZZY rules

2005-09-23 Thread Irina
Hello all, I can not figure out why I have these errors when running 'spamassassin --lint'. It complains about FUZZY rules: - config: warning: score set for non-existent rule FUZZY_GUARANTEE config: warning: score set for non-existent rule FUZZY_BILLION config: warning: score set

RulesDuJour; lint failes

2005-09-23 Thread Thijs Koetsier | Exception
Hi all, I'm using spamassassin 3 with rules du jour. Since a few days, when my rules du jour is runned by cron, spamassassin won't lint the rules anymore. I've looked into this problem on various sites, but didn't find a working answer, so I re-installed rules du jour but still have the same prob

Re: amavisd-new

2005-09-23 Thread Mark Martinec
Steven, > i am looking for a way to modify my subject line so that the spam assassin > hits show in the subjectline but since i am useing amavisd-new i think it > has to occure in the amavisd.conf file. Unfortunately this is not available off the shelf. The only modification to the Subject header

Re: Hotmail on sorbs?!?

2005-09-23 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Donnerstag, 22. September 2005 22:24 email builder wrote: > How so?  I can't believe you don't hear me when I say for the 100th > time that services like ours that have a lot of users who expect to > communicate with hotmail users cannot use an RBL in the MTA if it > lists hotmail. Larry said i

Bayes expiry/oddity

2005-09-23 Thread Chris Lear
I'm running a reasonably small site-wide spamassassin, and I use a site-side bayes db. Spamassassin runs as the user spamd. I noticed that I got spam last night with no BAYES_XX markup. I looked into it this morning, and discovered that the bayes db only has 47 spam messages in it (nspam from sa-l

Oddities since change to 3.1

2005-09-23 Thread jpff
I am getting Sep 21 09:34:20 snout spamd[28958]: mkdir /nonexistent: Permission denied at /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4/Mail/SpamAssassin.pm line 1467 Sep 21 09:34:20 snout spamd[28958]: locker: safe_lock: cannot create tmp lockfile /nonexistent/.spamassassin/auto-whitelist.lock.snout.codemist.c

spamc command line option "-f"

2005-09-23 Thread Joerg Hartmann
Hello, i just installed spamassassin on my mailserver, which runs postfix. I used http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/IntegratedSpamdInPostfix for an howto to integrate SA within postfix. In this wiki-article there is a command line option "-f" for spamc which i can not found in the manpage. So

Re: OT - abuseat.org

2005-09-23 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Nigel Frankcom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi All, > > This may be old news, but... anyone using abuseseat.org in their RBL's > should probably remove it. I had it running here in my main server > config (so not an SA issue) and it's been 550ing every incoming email. > A quick check of the domain sho