Re: Training a forwarding filter

2005-08-24 Thread Bob Proulx
Marshall Roch wrote: > I have a Gentoo box running Postfix IMAP and SpamAssassin. Each user > has a "Learn Spam" folder, and a cron job passes anything in that folder > to sa-learn and then moves it to the Junk folder. Okay. Sounds good. > This works great, but the load is too much. The syst

Re: AWL doesn't seem to work

2005-08-24 Thread Ilan Aisic
OK, I figured out what my problem was. It's in the way I always restarted SA. This was from the following simple script that I always ran as root: --- echo Running spamassassin --lint and then restarting spamd if OK... spamassassin --lint if [ $? != 0 ] ; then echo "SA discovered err

Re: AWL doesn't seem to work

2005-08-24 Thread Ilan Aisic
BTW, Matt was right in his assumption below. AWL worked correctly on my test. I intentionally contrived 2 emails from the same fake address. The first was inoccent the 2nd was the same text plus few known spammy words and phrases. On 8/24/05, Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > jdow wrote

Re: AWL doesn't seem to work

2005-08-24 Thread Ilan Aisic
Below: On 8/24/05, Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ilan Aisic wrote: > > Matt, > > I've modified the permissions on my auto-whitelist file and directory > > to 777 > > I didn't say modify the permissions of the file or directory. I said to modify > your configuration file option in your

Re: Feature Request: dynamic trusted_networks

2005-08-24 Thread John Rudd
On Aug 24, 2005, at 5:09 PM, Justin Mason wrote: I think we've already implemented that in 3.1.0. ;) I just love it when I request a feature that's already in the current release candidate. Thanks muchly :-)

Re: Feature Request: dynamic trusted_networks

2005-08-24 Thread John Rudd
On Aug 24, 2005, at 8:04 PM, jdow wrote: From: "John Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> That sounds odd, doesn't it? "dynamic trusted_networks". The whole point of a trusted network is that it's a specific network. However, if a message came from a client who gave SMTP-AUTH, it ought to be "truste

Training a forwarding filter

2005-08-24 Thread Marshall Roch
Hi all, This is my first post here. I have a Gentoo box running Postfix IMAP and SpamAssassin. Each user has a "Learn Spam" folder, and a cron job passes anything in that folder to sa-learn and then moves it to the Junk folder. This works great, but the load is too much. I'm trying to move

Re: Feature Request: dynamic trusted_networks

2005-08-24 Thread jdow
From: "John Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> That sounds odd, doesn't it? "dynamic trusted_networks". The whole point of a trusted network is that it's a specific network. However, if a message came from a client who gave SMTP-AUTH, it ought to be "trusted" (and not subjected to the blacklist che

X-Spam-Trusted: Relays

2005-08-24 Thread Chris
When and what would SA place on the above tag? -- Chris Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org 19:20:59 up 3 days, 7:04, 2 users, load average: 1.23, 0.80, 0.63 Mandriva Linux 10.1 Official, kernel 2.6.8.1-12mdk

Re: Feature Request: dynamic trusted_networks

2005-08-24 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Rudd writes: > That sounds odd, doesn't it? "dynamic trusted_networks". The whole > point of a trusted network is that it's a specific network. However, > if a message came from a client who gave SMTP-AUTH, it ought to be > "trusted" (and n

Feature Request: dynamic trusted_networks

2005-08-24 Thread John Rudd
That sounds odd, doesn't it? "dynamic trusted_networks". The whole point of a trusted network is that it's a specific network. However, if a message came from a client who gave SMTP-AUTH, it ought to be "trusted" (and not subjected to the blacklist checks). And that's what my feature requ

Re: Wanted: Better Documentation

2005-08-24 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Duncan Findlay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Certain parts of SpamAssassin's documentation are horribly out of date > and could really use some help. (For example spamd/README still > recommends people set --max-children to 20, and has numerous "FIXME" > sections.) > > Since it's ofter a bit ardu

Re: Parsing of undecoded UTF-8

2005-08-24 Thread Chris
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 08:44 am, Matt Kettler wrote: > At 11:07 PM 8/23/2005, Chris wrote: > >First time I've ever seen this, can someone explain what it > >means? Running SA > >3.0.4 > > > >Parsing of undecoded UTF-8 will give garbage when decoding entities > >at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8

RE: How to discard spam mails

2005-08-24 Thread Greg Allen
I am using SA as a Front end server. It has no real email boxes on it. Maybe sitewide is not the proper name for this config... But, anyway... my understanding is that Procmail must call a real mailbox in order to work. Since I have no real mailboxes on the SA server (and don't want any since it pa

RE: Subject Rewrite - Added charectors

2005-08-24 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Steve Dimoff wrote: > Folks, > > We have in the SA conf: > > subject_tag [SPAM] > > We are running SA 2.63 > > Since today, we haven't had a problem with the rewrite, and today a > message came in as: > > [SPAM-P] > > ...I'm confused... of where the -P came from. Has anyone seen this >

Re: RBL checking checks originating IP which could be listed in sorbs dynamic lists.

2005-08-24 Thread Matt Kettler
Matthew Schumacher wrote: > List, > > I am noticing that SA checks all untrusted relays it finds in the header > against the rbls. This is troubling because some rbls list dynamic > addresses and claim that this doesn't cause problems as long as the > dynamic user relays the message though their

Re: Website suggestion: security page.

2005-08-24 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matt Kettler writes: > Would the maintainer of the spamassassin.org website kindly consider adding a > new "security" tab? > > My vision here is to have a central spot to list all the versions of SA > affected > by DoS and other security vulnerabili

Re: RBL checking checks originating IP which could be listed in sorbs dynamic lists.

2005-08-24 Thread Matthew Schumacher
Matt Kettler wrote: > > Are you sure you have a problem? > > SA won't honor any SORBS_DUL results unless they specifically match the first > untrusted host SA sees as it works backwards through the received path. > > However, all the other SORBS tests are valid for any IP in the received: path,

Website suggestion: security page.

2005-08-24 Thread Matt Kettler
Would the maintainer of the spamassassin.org website kindly consider adding a new "security" tab? My vision here is to have a central spot to list all the versions of SA affected by DoS and other security vulnerabilities, and have links off to the CVE entries, or some other security announcement,

RBL checking checks originating IP which could be listed in sorbs dynamic lists.

2005-08-24 Thread Matthew Schumacher
List, I am noticing that SA checks all untrusted relays it finds in the header against the rbls. This is troubling because some rbls list dynamic addresses and claim that this doesn't cause problems as long as the dynamic user relays the message though their ISP, however SA checks both the ISP's

Re: How to move the discarded spam mails to Inbox

2005-08-24 Thread jdow
From: "Kris Deugau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fortunately, it's a little easier to shut them up about spam that slips through. "Well, Mr Smith, I see that there are 2000 spams in your spam folder, which at the moment looks like about 100 per day. I think the filter's working just fine, don't you?"

Re: nice sa

2005-08-24 Thread Matt Kettler
Pal Laszlo wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to lower the priority of SA processess. Currently I don't use > spamd (should I?) SA invoked by amavisd. No, you shouldn't use spamd with amavisd. Amavisd invokes the perl API directly and in effect acts as it's own spamd. > Do you have any idea? You'd have

Re: Subject Rewrite - Added charectors

2005-08-24 Thread Matt Kettler
Steve Dimoff wrote: > Folks, > > We have in the SA conf: > > subject_tag [SPAM] > > We are running SA 2.63 Warning: You have a DoS vulnerability in your version of SA. This vulnerability is in the mime parser, and can be exploited remotely by sending you a malformed message. Upgrade to 2.

Subject Rewrite - Added charectors

2005-08-24 Thread Steve Dimoff
Folks, We have in the SA conf: subject_tag [SPAM] We are running SA 2.63 Since today, we haven't had a problem with the rewrite, and today a message came in as: [SPAM-P] ...I'm confused... of where the -P came from. Has anyone seen this before? Or know why? Thanks, Steve

Re: AWL doesn't seem to work

2005-08-24 Thread Matt Kettler
jdow wrote: > Ilan, you could adopt my strategy and simply turn off auto-whitelist > and delete the auto-whitelist file. I've seen too many mis-trained > auto-whitelists mentioned on this list to be at all comfortable with > it. The same can be said for auto-learn with Bayes. > Are you sure they

Re: How to move the discarded spam mails to Inbox

2005-08-24 Thread Kris Deugau
jdow wrote: > > From: "Kris Deugau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > No matter how you do it, you *will* get users complaining that: > > a) you tagged $relative's Really Important (forwarded copy of a > > fowarded copy of... a joke) Message, or > > b) you are forcing them to wade through the spam when y

Re: AWL doesn't seem to work

2005-08-24 Thread jdow
Ilan, you could adopt my strategy and simply turn off auto-whitelist and delete the auto-whitelist file. I've seen too many mis-trained auto-whitelists mentioned on this list to be at all comfortable with it. The same can be said for auto-learn with Bayes. At the VERY least set the thresholds for

Re: How to move the discarded spam mails to Inbox

2005-08-24 Thread jdow
From: "Kris Deugau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> No matter how you do it, you *will* get users complaining that: a) you tagged $relative's Really Important (forwarded copy of a fowarded copy of... a joke) Message, or b) you are forcing them to wade through the spam when you *promised* they wouldn't have

Re: More zombie problems

2005-08-24 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nels Lindquist writes: > Hi there. > > I'm testing SA 3.10RC1, and I'm running into problems with zombie > processes. I'm using SA with MIMEDefang, which calls SpamAssassin > directly in perl. When the MD multiplexor tries to shut down idle > sl

More zombie problems

2005-08-24 Thread Nels Lindquist
Hi there. I'm testing SA 3.10RC1, and I'm running into problems with zombie processes. I'm using SA with MIMEDefang, which calls SpamAssassin directly in perl. When the MD multiplexor tries to shut down idle slaves, they become zombies. If I revert to SA 3.04, the problem disappears entirel

Re: AWL doesn't seem to work

2005-08-24 Thread Matt Kettler
Ilan Aisic wrote: > Matt, > I've modified the permissions on my auto-whitelist file and directory > to 777 I didn't say modify the permissions of the file or directory. I said to modify your configuration file option in your local.cf to be 0777. The file should be set to 666 anyway (which is what

Re: How to discard spam mails

2005-08-24 Thread Clay Irving
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 07:10:37AM -0400, Greg Allen wrote: > I tried Procmail for several days, in the end I found that it does not work > on a sitewide SA. But I did get a resolution on this, it looks like, using > Postfix header_checks. See my email last night. Thanks... Why not? I use both si

Re: Whitelist not working...

2005-08-24 Thread Matt Kettler
Richard Hobbs wrote: > Hello, > > Thank you for your reply, and apologies for my delay in replying again. > > If these emails are never going to match the whitelist, is there a way I can > always allow emails from certain addresses in a fool-proof way? > > The addresses I need to allow though ar

Re: AWL doesn't seem to work

2005-08-24 Thread Ilan Aisic
Matt, I've modified the permissions on my auto-whitelist file and directory to 777 even though I don't see why this is needed since spamd runs as root. Anyway, I did as advised and ran spamassassin -D < test (intead of the --lint option) and I ran it twice on 2 messages from the same address (2nd

Re: Parsing of undecoded UTF-8

2005-08-24 Thread Matt Kettler
At 11:07 PM 8/23/2005, Chris wrote: First time I've ever seen this, can someone explain what it means? Running SA 3.0.4 Parsing of undecoded UTF-8 will give garbage when decoding entities at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/Mail/SpamAssassin/HTML.pm line 182, line 1117. -- It's harmless: ht

Re: AWL doesn't seem to work

2005-08-24 Thread Matt Kettler
At 05:15 AM 8/24/2005, Ilan Aisic wrote: Hi, I'm running SA 3.0.2 with Exim 4.5. spamd runs as root. Warning: You are subject to a remote DoS attack on SA's mime parser, it's triggered by sending you a malformed message. Upgrade to 3.0.4. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=spamassassin-announ

Re: How to move the discarded spam mails to Inbox

2005-08-24 Thread Kris Deugau
suresh kumar wrote: > >Thanks Burton Windle . It's working now. I need > one more information. The suspected spam mails will be > moved to the SPAM file in the user's home directory > instead of going to the user's mailbox. The original > valid mails will be in the location /var/spool/mail

Re: Whitelist not working...

2005-08-24 Thread Loren Wilton
You can use whitelist_from. This will only match on the From address, so is quite spoofable. Loren

Re: AWL doesn't seem to work

2005-08-24 Thread Kevin Peuhkurinen
Ilan Aisic wrote: Related output from running spamassassin -D --lint : [EMAIL PROTECTED]|ip=none scores 0/0debug: AWL active, pre-score: 7.328, autolearn score: 7.328, mean: undef, IP: undef This isn't terribly helpful. Please try running with a real email, using the syntax: spamassass

RE: How to discard spam mails

2005-08-24 Thread Anthony Peacock
Hi, > I tried Procmail for several days, in the end I found that it does not > work on a sitewide SA. But I did get a resolution on this, it looks > like, using Postfix header_checks. See my email last night. Thanks... Umm! Works fine for me here... Might not have worked the way you wanted it

RE: How to discard spam mails

2005-08-24 Thread Greg Allen
I tried Procmail for several days, in the end I found that it does not work on a sitewide SA. But I did get a resolution on this, it looks like, using Postfix header_checks. See my email last night. Thanks... > -Original Message- > From: jdow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, A

RE: Whitelist not working...

2005-08-24 Thread Richard Hobbs
Hello, Thank you for your reply, and apologies for my delay in replying again. If these emails are never going to match the whitelist, is there a way I can always allow emails from certain addresses in a fool-proof way? The addresses I need to allow though are very unlikely to be spoofed, so thi

Different spam rules

2005-08-24 Thread Fettke, Dirk
Title: Different spam rules Hi, I'm looking for a solution for filter spam-mails, depending of recipient-domains. We have a postfix-mailrelay with amavisd and spamassassin working (but without local mailboxes) for delivering emails to our customers mailservers. Each of them have differen

Re: How to discard spam mails

2005-08-24 Thread jdow
Procmail is not all that big. If it's overhead is too much for you then something is seriously wrong there. SpamAssassin's overhead is VASTLY more than procmail's. {^_^} - Original Message - From: "Greg Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mailscanner and Amavis-new have way too much overhead IM

AWL doesn't seem to work

2005-08-24 Thread Ilan Aisic
Hi, I'm running SA 3.0.2 with Exim 4.5. spamd runs as root. I think I've set my configuration to have a system-wide auto-whitelisting. However, I've noticed that even though the file "auto-whitelist" always remains 12,288 bytes long and unchanged and naturally, scores aren't affected. Everytime

nice sa

2005-08-24 Thread Pal Laszlo
Hi, I'd like to lower the priority of SA processess. Currently I don't use spamd (should I?) SA invoked by amavisd. Do you have any idea? Thx L: