How to reenable DCC and Razor (was RE: ANNOUNCE: SpamAssassin 3.1.0-rc1 release candidate available!)

2005-08-13 Thread Dan Kohn
Justin said: >- - Razor: disable Razor2 support by default per our policy, since the > service is not free for non-personal use. It's trivial to reenable. Could you please change that to: "It's trivial to reenable by uncommenting the appropriate lines in /etc/mail/spamassassin/v310.pre". Give

Re: helo lookup before rDNS [Was: Faster rDNS lookups]

2005-08-13 Thread List Mail User
>... > >List Mail User wrote: >> >> Certainly not (no dunce cap). Public airing of ideas generally >> has merit - quite possibly this idea can be refined to something similar >> that will provide a benefit (I admit, I have not given it a lot of thought). >> > >one thing that an MTA can do i

Re: ANNOUNCE: SpamAssassin 3.1.0-rc1 release candidate available!

2005-08-13 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Sat, Aug 13, 2005 at 03:07:14PM +0530, Ramprasad A Padmanabhan wrote: > When I build the rpm from the spec file ( on fedora core 3 ) the > spamassassin-tools rpm is not created. Was it not a part of SA. The tools RPM was deprecated. There was very little in there that wasn't development relate

How do I install Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.4.tar.gz at perl 5.005 env.

2005-08-13 Thread Atami Org.
Dear; I like to install Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.4.tar.gz at my Cobalt Raq4 server. Cobalt Raq4 has perl 5.005. Mail-SpamAssassin looks require perl 5.6.1. However I am not sure how upgrade perl of Cobalt Raq4. Then, I am try to install Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.4.tar.gz at the perl 5.005 env. But no

Re: 3.1 and Net::Ident

2005-08-13 Thread Steve Martin
OK, I'll forget identd... Sometimes it is hard for me to resist trying things like that "because they are there". On Aug 13, 2005, at 5:33 PM, John Rudd wrote: On Aug 13, 2005, at 3:12 PM, Steve Martin wrote: 2) Does anyone know a good working identd this is a contradiction in terms.

Re: 3.1 and Net::Ident

2005-08-13 Thread John Rudd
On Aug 13, 2005, at 3:12 PM, Steve Martin wrote: 2) Does anyone know a good working identd this is a contradiction in terms. "Good" and "working" cannot coexist with "identd". Ok, I guess you could say that "an identd which accurately implements the identd protocol is 'working'", but that

Re: 3.1 and Net::Ident

2005-08-13 Thread Steve Martin
My mistake. I wasn't looking to closely just saw the list of things it said weren't installed. I guess it isn't a big deal, but now that I've started down the path of trying to get it working ... On Aug 13, 2005, at 5:15 PM, Michael Parker wrote: Steve Martin wrote: I'm getting ready

Re: 3.1 and Net::Ident

2005-08-13 Thread Michael Parker
Steve Martin wrote: > I'm getting ready for 3.1 and noticed one of the prerequisites is > Net::Ident. Correction, one of the optional modules.It is not required. Why gave you the idea that it was a required module? Michael signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

3.1 and Net::Ident

2005-08-13 Thread Steve Martin
I'm getting ready for 3.1 and noticed one of the prerequisites is Net::Ident. MacOS 10.4 no longer includes an ident daemon so I scrounged about a bit and found one... http://www.macmax.org/article.php3?id_article=39 But, it fails test 6 of the Net::Ident install (it still works after th

Re: Anything Happened to blackholes.us ?

2005-08-13 Thread mouss
Ilan Aisic wrote: For the last couple of days my SA wasn't able to use blackholes.us. I tried to ping it but it seems dead. Anyone knows the reason and if/when it's coming back? This is probably a timeout issue. works (slow but works) from here. BTW, the web page says "29 March, 2005". does

helo lookup before rDNS [Was: Faster rDNS lookups]

2005-08-13 Thread mouss
List Mail User wrote: Certainly not (no dunce cap). Public airing of ideas generally has merit - quite possibly this idea can be refined to something similar that will provide a benefit (I admit, I have not given it a lot of thought). one thing that an MTA can do is to delay its rDNS

Re: Faster rDNS lookups

2005-08-13 Thread mouss
Rob McEwen wrote: I've got an idea for faster rDNS lookups. Before I present the solution. Here is the problem... ...basically, rDNS checks are "expensive". They sometimes take a few seconds when done in real time and depend on the timeliness and of other people's DNS servers. This 1-5 (or more

Re: ANNOUNCE: SpamAssassin 3.1.0-rc1 release candidate available!

2005-08-13 Thread Jim Knuth
Hallo und Guten Abend The, Heute (am 13.08.2005 - 22:19 Uhr) schriebst Du: > On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 06:14:43PM -0700, Justin Mason wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> *** THIS IS A RELEASE CANDIDATE ONLY, NOT THE FINAL 3.1.0 RELEASE *** >> >> > So far this BS

Re: ANNOUNCE: SpamAssassin 3.1.0-rc1 release candidate available!

2005-08-13 Thread The Doctor
On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 06:14:43PM -0700, Justin Mason wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > *** THIS IS A RELEASE CANDIDATE ONLY, NOT THE FINAL 3.1.0 RELEASE *** > > SpamAssassin 3.1.0-rc1 is released! SpamAssassin 3.1.0 is a major update. > SpamAssassin is a mail filter

Re: FYI: ccTLD .de listed in RFC-ignorant.org

2005-08-13 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* List Mail User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > By default the check for the rule is against the value > 127.0.0.5, so there is no penalty (TLDs which are invalid are marked > with 127.0.0.7). However, on my own servers, you get penalized .1 point > (local rule). Note, that ".de" was *almost* fixed

Re: Faster rDNS lookups

2005-08-13 Thread List Mail User
>>And for spam domains, IP-jumping is common... >>...for well run, legitimate domains, what >>you say is indeed correct >Overall, I think you actually make the case FOR my idea of artifically long >cacheing of rDNS checks. And, I think my earlier messages covered the various >scenarios. > >>the l

Re: Faster rDNS lookups

2005-08-13 Thread Rob McEwen (PowerView Systems)
>And for spam domains, IP-jumping is common... >...for well run, legitimate domains, what >you say is indeed correct Overall, I think you actually make the case FOR my idea of artifically long cacheing of rDNS checks. And, I think my earlier messages covered the various scenarios. >the load on t

RE: Faster rDNS lookups

2005-08-13 Thread List Mail User
>... > >Rob, > >... > >For example, if you do a lookup on blahblah.yourdomain.com and that domain >... >doesn't exist. Next, seconds later, create an A-record for >blahblah.yourdomain.com ...finally, seconds later, do another lookup for >blahblah.yourdomain.com > >In my testing, that last lookup DO

Re: FYI: ccTLD .de listed in RFC-ignorant.org

2005-08-13 Thread List Mail User
>... >FYI: >rfc-ignorant.org has .de listed in whois.rfc-ignorant.com. > >http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/tools/detail.php?domain=de&submitted=1120996396&table=whois >In a standard 3.0.x install, DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS gives a score of 0.492 >(net) or 0.296 (net+bayes). > Dirk, By default

Re: ANNOUNCE: SpamAssassin 3.1.0-rc1 release candidate available!

2005-08-13 Thread Michael Parker
Michael Parker wrote: > Hmmmmaybe some of the above should be captured in the documentation, > >patches welcome. > > > Nevermind, this is what I just added to UPGRADE, hopefully that make things clearer: +- As of 3.1.0, in addition to the generic BayesSQL support (via + Mail::SpamAssassin:

Re: Faster rDNS lookups

2005-08-13 Thread List Mail User
>... > >Rob McEwen wrote: >> I've got an idea for faster rDNS lookups. >> >> Before I present the solution. Here is the problem... >> >> ...basically, rDNS checks are "expensive". They sometimes take a few seconds >> when done in real time and depend on the timeliness and of other people's >> DNS

Re: ANNOUNCE: SpamAssassin 3.1.0-rc1 release candidate available!

2005-08-13 Thread Michael Parker
email builder wrote: >>- - added PostgreSQL, MySQL 4.1+, and local SDBM file Bayes storage >>modules. SQL >> storage is now recommended for Bayes, instead of DB_File. NDBM_File >>support >> has been dropped due to a major bug in that module. >> >> > >What's the difference between the MySQL s

Re: Faster rDNS lookups

2005-08-13 Thread Cami
Rob McEwen (PowerView Systems) wrote: Cami said: it appears that negative rdns lookups are cached for 10 minutes I think that this depends of a variety of real world factors which might be very different from published standards. Published standards (bind/named) is 10 minutes. Cami... why

Re: Faster rDNS lookups

2005-08-13 Thread Rob McEwen (PowerView Systems)
Cami said: >It used to be >80% but Postfix+policyd has reduced it >to barely anything The fact that you use graylisting as a means of eliminating spam as a 1st line of defense is makes your "9% of incoming mail is spam" as VERY anecdotal for the purposes of this discussion. Please, don't confuse

Re: FYI: ccTLD .de listed in RFC-ignorant.org

2005-08-13 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Dirk Bonengel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > FYI: > rfc-ignorant.org has .de listed in whois.rfc-ignorant.com. Yes, since Spet. 2004 -- Ralf Hildebrandt (i.A. des IT-Zentrums) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Charite - Universitätsmedizin BerlinTel. +49 (0)30-450 570-155 Gemeinsame Einrichtung v

Re: Faster rDNS lookups

2005-08-13 Thread Cami
Rob McEwen wrote: Please understand, I'm only proposing this as an alternative idea for checking to see if a sending server's IP address has proper rDNS... NOT any other type of DNS lookups. Also, I don't have stats on this, but I know that most mail is spam and I know that MUCH of this spam has

Anything Happened to blackholes.us ?

2005-08-13 Thread Ilan Aisic
For the last couple of days my SA wasn't able to use blackholes.us. I tried to ping it but it seems dead. Anyone knows the reason and if/when it's coming back? -- Ilan Aisic Registered Linux User 8124 http://counter.li.org

RE: Faster rDNS lookups

2005-08-13 Thread Rob McEwen
Please understand, I'm only proposing this as an alternative idea for checking to see if a sending server's IP address has proper rDNS... NOT any other type of DNS lookups. Also, I don't have stats on this, but I know that most mail is spam and I know that MUCH of this spam has no rDNS properly co

Re: FYI: ccTLD .de listed in RFC-ignorant.org

2005-08-13 Thread Dirk Bonengel
Thanks for the clarification. Dirk Rob Skedgell schrieb: On Saturday 13 Aug 2005 12:29, Dirk Bonengel wrote: FYI: rfc-ignorant.org has .de listed in whois.rfc-ignorant.com. http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/tools/detail.php?domain=de&submitted=1120996396&table=whois In a standard 3.0.

Re: FYI: ccTLD .de listed in RFC-ignorant.org

2005-08-13 Thread Rob Skedgell
On Saturday 13 Aug 2005 12:29, Dirk Bonengel wrote: > FYI: > rfc-ignorant.org has .de listed in whois.rfc-ignorant.com. > > http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/tools/detail.php?domain=de&submitted=1120996396&table=whois > In a standard 3.0.x install, DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS gives a score of 0.492 > (net) or

Re: ANNOUNCE: SpamAssassin 3.1.0-rc1 release candidate available!

2005-08-13 Thread email builder
> SpamAssassin 3.1.0-rc1 is released! SpamAssassin 3.1.0 is a major update. Very exciting! > - - Apache preforking algorithm adopted; number of spamd child processes is > now > scaled, according to demand. This provides better VM behaviour when not > under peak load. I presume this is acti

FYI: ccTLD .de listed in RFC-ignorant.org

2005-08-13 Thread Dirk Bonengel
FYI: rfc-ignorant.org has .de listed in whois.rfc-ignorant.com. http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/tools/detail.php?domain=de&submitted=1120996396&table=whois In a standard 3.0.x install, DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS gives a score of 0.492 (net) or 0.296 (net+bayes).

Re: Faster rDNS lookups

2005-08-13 Thread Cami
Rob McEwen wrote: Cami wrote Exactly how is this faster than using a dns caching nameserver? As I mentioned, (1) artificially long caching times (well beyond TTL) can be set for both negative and positive return and (2) once cached, the lookup is not dependent on another 3rd party server which

RE: Faster rDNS lookups

2005-08-13 Thread Rob McEwen
>Cami asked Exactly how is this faster than using a dns caching nameserver? As I mentioned, (1) artificially long caching times (well beyond TTL) can be set for both negative and positive return and (2) once cached, the lookup is not dependent on another 3rd party server which might have been over

Re: ANNOUNCE: SpamAssassin 3.1.0-rc1 release candidate available!

2005-08-13 Thread Ramprasad A Padmanabhan
When I build the rpm from the spec file ( on fedora core 3 ) the spamassassin-tools rpm is not created. Was it not a part of SA. Thanks Ram On Sat, 2005-08-13 at 06:44, Justin Mason wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > *** THIS IS A RELEASE CANDIDATE ONLY, NOT THE FINAL 3