Re: How to get rid of these messages ?

2005-08-11 Thread jdow
Fascinating - this one sorted into the wrong mail folder or I'd have replied differently. {^_^} - Original Message - From: "Loren Wilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: 2005 August, 11, Thursday 23:35 Subject: Re: How to get rid of these messages ? #--

Re: How to get rid of these messages ?

2005-08-11 Thread Loren Wilton
#--- # 08/10/05 rawbody LW_GEOCITIES_UK m'http://uk\.geocities\.com/'i score LW_GEOCITIES_UK 5 describe LW_GEOCITIES_UK Geocities.uk spam crap - Original Message - From: "jdow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sen

Re: How to get rid of these messages ?

2005-08-11 Thread jdow
Ah shirt - geocities spam here, too. {+_+} - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: 2005 August, 11, Thursday 23:09 Subject: How to get rid of these messages ? who can help plesae ? Thanks Wolfgang - Weitergeleitet von Wolfgang Fuertbauer/EBEWE/AT am 12.08.2005 08:

How to get rid of these messages ?

2005-08-11 Thread Wolfgang . Fuertbauer
who can help plesae ? Thanks Wolfgang - Weitergeleitet von Wolfgang Fuertbauer/EBEWE/AT am 12.08.2005 08:08 - "jim altamirano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11.08.2005 08:05 Bitte antworten an "jim altamirano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> An "Patricia Neel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kopie <[EMAIL PRO

RE: What the hell is that?

2005-08-11 Thread Sven Riedel
> Damn shame that's not a cooking blog. Turkey with bacon, damn good > eats. Get the new, nutritious and very satiating SOYLENT GREEN! Better tasting than SOYLENT BLUE and better looking than SOYLENT RED! ;) (Anyone seen any soylent spam yet?) Regs, Sven

Re: What the hell is that?

2005-08-11 Thread Jonathan Nichols
Steven Dickenson wrote: On Aug 10, 2005, at 1:21 PM, Matt Kettler wrote: For example, try doing "turkeybacon" as a destination. Firefox will fail the lookup, do a web search (using google or whatever your default search engine is) and jump to the first hit: http://www.livejournal.com/user

Re: What the hell is that?

2005-08-11 Thread Steven Dickenson
On Aug 10, 2005, at 1:21 PM, Matt Kettler wrote: For example, try doing "turkeybacon" as a destination. Firefox will fail the lookup, do a web search (using google or whatever your default search engine is) and jump to the first hit: http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=turkeybacon

Re: Phishing IP listed in URIBL and SURBL, but not triggering URI rules

2005-08-11 Thread wolfgang
In an older episode (Friday, 12. August 2005 01:46), Dallas L. Engelken wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: wolfgang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 6:36 PM > > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > > Subject: Re: Phishing IP listed in URIBL and SURBL, but n

RE: Phishing IP listed in URIBL and SURBL, but not triggering URI rules

2005-08-11 Thread Dallas L. Engelken
> > > > Is other software (besides the surbl cgi :) using them? > > > > Surbl.org lists several tools on their main page that use SURBL data, > some which do not rely on spamassassin uri parser. I know uricat > (http://ry.ca/geturi/) gets it right, as does SA 3.1.x of > which has been > getting

RE: Phishing IP listed in URIBL and SURBL, but not triggering URI rules

2005-08-11 Thread Dallas L. Engelken
> -Original Message- > From: wolfgang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 6:36 PM > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: Phishing IP listed in URIBL and SURBL, but not > triggering URI rules > > In an older episode (Friday, 12. August 2005 01:18), Dall

Re: SUBJECT_MONTH

2005-08-11 Thread Jonathan Nichols
Sure there is.. Perhaps you forgot about the month of May. *smacks forehead like the moron he is* D'oh! If you aren't running 2.43 or older, perhaps you should find out why you have rules from 2.43 in your config. I'm running 3.x - I've just been dragging around the same local.cf since

Re: Phishing IP listed in URIBL and SURBL, but not triggering URI rules

2005-08-11 Thread wolfgang
In an older episode (Friday, 12. August 2005 01:18), Dallas L. Engelken wrote: > Looks like we agree with surbl.. > > # host -tTXT 158.194.144.219.multi.uribl.com > 158.194.144.219.multi.uribl.com descriptive text "Listed on [black] - > See http://lookup.uribl.com/?domain=158.194.144.219"; Yes,

Re: spamassassin configuration on a muti-domain hosting server

2005-08-11 Thread Mike Jackson
I'm on a Redhat ES 4 (x86) with postfix-2.1.5-4.2.RHEL4 spamassassin-3.0.4-1.el4 spamd is launch with this command (according to ps -edf | grep spamd) root 27429 1 0 21:51 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/spamd -d -c -m5 -H When i send a mail it goes through spamd and then i get this error

RE: Phishing IP listed in URIBL and SURBL, but not triggering URI rules

2005-08-11 Thread Dallas L. Engelken
> -Original Message- > From: Dirk Bonengel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 5:01 PM > To: Dallas L. Engelken > Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: Phishing IP listed in URIBL and SURBL, but not > triggering URI rules > > Dallas (and all the rest),

Re: Phishing IP listed in URIBL and SURBL, but not triggering URI rules

2005-08-11 Thread Dirk Bonengel
Dallas (and all the rest), what you're saying is: - We're talking of forward lookups, not of reverse lookup. What I'm seeing, however, is that the zone files contain IPs in reverse notation.So SA does a forward lookup on a reversed IP. I think that's about it. Wolfgang complained about not bein

Re: Phishing IP listed in URIBL and SURBL, but not triggering URI rules

2005-08-11 Thread Magnus Holmgren
Greg Allen wrote: This is a very, very dangerous road to go down. You would see a lot of collateral damage by doing a URIBL by IP. A lot of domain hosts these days use shared IPs. I could host any number of legit websites on one virtual IP…and I do. I share IPs with any number of other websites a

Re: Phishing IP listed in URIBL and SURBL, but not triggering URI rules

2005-08-11 Thread Dirk Bonengel
Greg, given you speak of name-based virtual hosts, your concerns do not apply. You'd not be affected if the IP of one of your web servers would be listed in an URIB list..The plugin does not resolve the IP of an URL. The only thing that matters is the actual domain. The case in question here is

RE: Phishing IP listed in URIBL and SURBL, but not triggering URI rules

2005-08-11 Thread Dallas L. Engelken
Chris, > > From: Chris Santerre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Negative ghostrider! > > We aren't getting the ip. We are taking the ip directly from > the URL, not doing a reverse lookup. I haven't seen a legit > email use an IP in a URL in ages. And even if it was legit, > it would have to b

Re: Phishing IP listed in URIBL and SURBL, but not triggering URI rules

2005-08-11 Thread Dirk Bonengel
Nee, but the subrl/uribl backoffice does, and, yes, thinking of it they're overdoing it: The phish IP you mentioned was 219.144.194.158 In the zone files it's in reverse notation extract of multi.surbl.org.rbldnsd (Zonefile for the rbldnsd I host:) 158.194.144.219 :127.0.0.12:Blocked, 158.194.

Re: Spam-Status tag with score numbers?

2005-08-11 Thread Matt Kettler
Juan Machado wrote: > I got an error after I added the headers thing... > > spamassassin -D --lint > config: SpamAssassin failed to parse line, skipping: _ > > > lint: 1 issues detected. please rerun with debug enabled for more > information. Fix the line-wraps. It looks like somewhere alon

Re: Phishing IP listed in URIBL and SURBL, but not triggering URI rules

2005-08-11 Thread wolfgang
In an older episode (Thursday, 11. August 2005 22:58), Greg Allen wrote: > This is a very, very dangerous road to go down. You would see a lot of > collateral damage by doing a URIBL by IP. A lot of domain hosts these days > use shared IPs. I could host any number of legit websites on one virtual >

RE: Phishing IP listed in URIBL and SURBL, but not triggering URI rules

2005-08-11 Thread Chris Santerre
Negative ghostrider! We aren't getting the ip. We are taking the ip directly from the URL, not doing a reverse lookup. I haven't seen a legit email use an IP in a URL in ages. And even if it was legit, it would have to be listed in URIBL. Again, no reverse lookups being done. Just using what is

Re: Phishing IP listed in URIBL and SURBL, but not triggering URI rules

2005-08-11 Thread wolfgang
In an older episode (Thursday, 11. August 2005 22:46), Dirk Bonengel wrote: > Well, the IP is listed OK, but one needs to do reverse queries: > > dig 158.194.144.219.multi.surbl.org > gives > 158.194.144.219.multi.surbl.org. 1850 IN A 127.0.0.12 > which sounds good to me. But the uribl plugi

RE: Phishing IP listed in URIBL and SURBL, but not triggering URI rules

2005-08-11 Thread Greg Allen
This is a very, very dangerous road to go down. You would see a lot of collateral damage by doing a URIBL by IP. A lot of domain hosts these days use shared IPs. I could host any number of legit websites on one virtual IP…and I do. I share IPs with any number of other websites at the web hosting co

Re: Phishing IP listed in URIBL and SURBL, but not triggering URI rules

2005-08-11 Thread Dirk Bonengel
Well, the IP is listed OK, but one needs to do reverse queries: dig 158.194.144.219.multi.surbl.org gives 158.194.144.219.multi.surbl.org. 1850 IN A 127.0.0.12 which sounds good to me. Dirk Chris Santerre schrieb: -Original Message- From: wolfgang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

spamassassin configuration on a muti-domain hosting server

2005-08-11 Thread Thomas Manson
Hi, I'm on a Redhat ES 4 (x86) with postfix-2.1.5-4.2.RHEL4 spamassassin-3.0.4-1.el4 spamd is launch with this command (according to ps -edf | grep spamd) root 27429 1 0 21:51 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/spamd -d -c -m5 -H When i send a mail it goes through spamd and then i get this erro

RE: Spam-Status tag with score numbers?

2005-08-11 Thread Juan Machado
I got an error after I added the headers thing... spamassassin -D --lint debug: plugin: loading Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL from @INC debug: plugin: registered Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL=HASH(0xa4a7abc) debug: plugin: loading Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Hashcash from @INC debug

RE: Phishing IP listed in URIBL and SURBL, but not triggering URI rules

2005-08-11 Thread Chris Santerre
> -Original Message- > From: wolfgang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 2:56 PM > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: Phishing IP listed in URIBL and SURBL, but not triggering > URI rules > > > In an older episode (Thursday, 11. August 2005 12:31),

Re: Phishing IP listed in URIBL and SURBL, but not triggering URI rules

2005-08-11 Thread wolfgang
In an older episode (Thursday, 11. August 2005 12:31), Jeff Chan wrote: > On Tuesday, August 9, 2005, 11:52:47 PM, wolfgang wolfgang wrote: > > the IP > > 219 dot 144 dot 194 dot 158 > > is shown as listed by http://www.rulesemporium.com/cgi-bin/uribl.cgi - a > > phishing mail with > > http://219

Re: Weird spam bounce back

2005-08-11 Thread Matt Kettler
Kelson wrote: > > > The ones I hate are the viruses that forge addresses like > [EMAIL PROTECTED], then try to send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] We reject > incoming mail claiming to be from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and similar > addresses with a "Forgery detected!" error, since we know we'll only > ever send

Perl update and sa-learn

2005-08-11 Thread Greg Webster
Hi all, Yesterday I updated SpamAssassin with perl and CPAN, and today I asked it to update bayes with ~400 stored spam messages. The results: $ sa-learn --mbox --spam /var/mail/spamhole configuration file "/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_body_tests.cf" requires version 3.04 of SpamAssassin,

Re: Weird spam bounce back

2005-08-11 Thread Kelson
Matt Kettler wrote: Steve Martin wrote: Some trojan/whetever sent an email to a nonexistent address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The return address was spoofed as one of my addresses ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Their brain-dead mailer daemon then sent the failure back to me. That's not really all that brain-

RE: When is Bulk "Bulk"

2005-08-11 Thread Bowie Bailey
From: Steven J. Sobol [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Bowie Bailey wrote: > > > Personally, I have a very simple definition of spam: > > > > If I didn't ask for it and it comes from someone I don't > > know, it's spam. > > That's not a workable definition. If someone I don't

RE: When is Bulk "Bulk"

2005-08-11 Thread Steven J. Sobol
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Mike Wiebeld wrote: > I don't think you understand the situation. How is the recipient > supposed to know whether it is actually a hand crafted email sent just > to him or a spam run of 10,000? There are tools like Razor and DCC that help determine that. -- Steve Sobol, Prof

RE: When is Bulk "Bulk"

2005-08-11 Thread Steven J. Sobol
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Bowie Bailey wrote: > Personally, I have a very simple definition of spam: > > If I didn't ask for it and it comes from someone I don't know, it's spam. That's not a workable definition. If someone I don't know checks out my website and emails me asking me to do some work f

Re: Weird spam bounce back

2005-08-11 Thread Steve Martin
Sounds like a good plan, although I doubt I'll remember to stop blocking it after 24 hours ;-) On Aug 11, 2005, at 12:01 PM, Matt Kettler wrote: Tell postfix to refuse mail from 83.102.221.67? That's generally what I do with joe-job bounces. I block the affected server for 24 hours with a

Re: When is Bulk "Bulk"

2005-08-11 Thread Steven J. Sobol
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, E. Falk wrote: > Rob McEwen wrote: > > Does anyone else consider SpamHaus's definition as too weak and believe > > that > > ANY unsolicited e-mail is spam, even if a personally hand-typed note? > > > > I'm really curious as to how we would defined "solicited" e-mail. solici

Re: Weird spam bounce back

2005-08-11 Thread Matt Kettler
Steve Martin wrote: > I'm trying to figure out the route this took to get to me > > My guess is... > > Some trojan/whetever sent an email to a nonexistent address > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > The return address was spoofed as one of my addresses ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > Their brain-dead mailer daemo

Weird spam bounce back

2005-08-11 Thread Steve Martin
I'm trying to figure out the route this took to get to me My guess is... Some trojan/whetever sent an email to a nonexistent address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The return address was spoofed as one of my addresses ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Their brain-dead mailer daemon then sent the failure back to m

Re: Phishing IP listed in URIBL and SURBL, but not triggering URI rules

2005-08-11 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 03:31:57AM -0700, Jeff Chan wrote: > > the IP > > 219 dot 144 dot 194 dot 158 > > is shown as listed by http://www.rulesemporium.com/cgi-bin/uribl.cgi - a > > phishing mail with > > http://219dot144dot194dot158:8081/secure.dresdner-privat.de/fb/privat/login/login.htm > > in

Re: SUBJECT_MONTH

2005-08-11 Thread Matt Kettler
Jonathan Nichols wrote: > Huh? Subject didn't have month in it at all.. :( > > > Subject: We may be able to help you eradicate your student loans. Sure there is.. Perhaps you forgot about the month of May. That said, the SUBJECT_MONTH rule hasn't existed since SpamAssassin 2.44. Versions prio

Re: SUBJECT_MONTH

2005-08-11 Thread Ben O'Hara
> Subject: We may be able to help you eradicate your student loans. Erm, "may" is a month afaik :-) Ben On 8/11/05, Jonathan Nichols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Huh? Subject didn't have month in it at all.. :( > > > > > > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Received: from mailgate.pbp.n

SUBJECT_MONTH

2005-08-11 Thread Jonathan Nichols
Huh? Subject didn't have month in it at all.. :( Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from mailgate.pbp.net (mailgate.pbp.net [192.168.10.87]) by mail.pbp.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95CA7117720 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 11 Aug 2005 05:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Received:

Re: Spam-Status tag with score numbers?

2005-08-11 Thread Matt Kettler
Simon Oosthoek wrote: > Matt Kettler wrote: >> >> add_header all Status _YESNO_, score=_SCORE_ required=_REQD_ >> tests=_TESTSSCORES_ autolearn=_AUTOLEARN_ version=_VERSION >> > > Ok, I've put this in the /etc/spamassassin/local.cf file and it doesn't > change the appearance of the Status header a

Re: Spam-Status tag with score numbers?

2005-08-11 Thread Simon Oosthoek
Matt Kettler wrote: At 05:37 AM 8/11/2005, Simon Oosthoek wrote: X-Virtu-MailScanner-SpamCheck: spam, SpamAssassin (score=25.456, required 5, autolearn=spam, BAYES_99 3.50, FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD 2.70, That header wasn't made by SpamAssassin.. MailScanner builds it's own headers. Tha

Re: When is Bulk "Bulk"

2005-08-11 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, List Mail User wrote: > non-commercial relationship); But if I have published a link to your > site, I have created a relationship, even if I didn't intend to. There > are such things as implied consent, and IANAL, but this probably falls > into that situation. This example

Re: Spam-Status tag with score numbers?

2005-08-11 Thread Matt Kettler
At 05:37 AM 8/11/2005, Simon Oosthoek wrote: Hi all I'm quite new to spamassassin... Our ISP has a scanner running on their fallback MX machines for their clients (some spammers aparently use the fallback MX rather than the default MX) So I get e-mails with their headers (see below) and the

Re: Is there a UNIX socket test client program (a la NetCat)?

2005-08-11 Thread Nix
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, Herb Martin wrote: > Is there a UNIX socket test client program (a la NetCat)? > > I need to test a variety of UNIX (not IP/INET) socket daemons for both > syntax and "are you running". > > Is there a program that can read-write to an arbitrary Unix-type socket in a > manner

Re: When is Bulk "Bulk"

2005-08-11 Thread Nix
On Tue, 09 Aug 2005, Justin Mason said: > BTW, before we go too far down this rabbit-hole, everyone please note > that actually, the SpamAssassin project *does* have its own definition > of spam: that being Unsolicited Bulk Email. There was a wonderful old post on news.admin.net-abuse.misc (messag

Re: Phishing IP listed in URIBL and SURBL, but not triggering URI rules

2005-08-11 Thread Jeff Chan
On Tuesday, August 9, 2005, 11:52:47 PM, wolfgang wolfgang wrote: > the IP > 219 dot 144 dot 194 dot 158 > is shown as listed by http://www.rulesemporium.com/cgi-bin/uribl.cgi - a > phishing mail with > http://219dot144dot194dot158:8081/secure.dresdner-privat.de/fb/privat/login/login.htm > in it's

Spam-Status tag with score numbers?

2005-08-11 Thread Simon Oosthoek
Hi all I'm quite new to spamassassin... Our ISP has a scanner running on their fallback MX machines for their clients (some spammers aparently use the fallback MX rather than the default MX) So I get e-mails with their headers (see below) and then I scan them as well, adding my own headers.

Re: Not delivering Spam with Procmail

2005-08-11 Thread Nix
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Joe Borg said: > Its easier not to try to count asterisks... > Sample procmailrc portion >:0 > * ^X-Spam-Status:.*score=[1-9][0-9] > { > >:0 > /dev/null > } > -end sample Agreed, but you don't have to use regexps for the counting job either. I use somet

Re: Statistics for Spamassassin / Spam

2005-08-11 Thread Claude Kries
Matt Kettler wrote: Claude Kries wrote: Hi there, it would be nice to hear of some statistical tools you are using, to analyze how much spam SA filtered during a period of some time. Any out ther? Maybe some generating nice HTML output or something? There's some misc mrtg scripts out there

Re: Statistics for Spamassassin / Spam

2005-08-11 Thread Claude Kries
Matt Kettler wrote: Claude Kries wrote: Hi there, it would be nice to hear of some statistical tools you are using, to analyze how much spam SA filtered during a period of some time. Any out ther? Maybe some generating nice HTML output or something? There's some misc mrtg scripts out there

Re: SA doesn't use my scores from local.cf

2005-08-11 Thread ddaasd
Hi Matt, Thanks a lot for your clarifications. Everything is clearer now :) ddaas Matt Kettler wrote: > ddaasd wrote: > >>Hi, >>I have a problem with SpamAssassin. I would appreciate if someone could >>help me. >> >> My setup is: >> >>I’ve upgraded to SpamAssassin version 3.0.3 running on Per