Re: Adding SpamBouncer phishing data to ph.surbl.org

2005-07-31 Thread Loren Wilton
> > Any domain names in a phishing email code are most likely going to be legit > > domain names such as, ebay.com, bankofamerica,com, southtrustbank.com etc.. > > These are the domains visible to the target/sucker. On the other hand, I just got a phish insisting I had to update my wellsfargo acco

Re: Adding SpamBouncer phishing data to ph.surbl.org

2005-07-31 Thread Jeff Chan
On Sunday, July 31, 2005, 10:39:14 AM, Greg Allen wrote: > People who do phishing are going to change their IP address (IP where the > actual target/sucker is sent) frequently. They are also probably going to > use random and ever changing computer IPs outside the US for obvious legal > reasons. Ma

Re: Adding SpamBouncer phishing data to ph.surbl.org

2005-07-31 Thread Jeff Chan
On Sunday, July 31, 2005, 3:52:53 AM, Herb Martin wrote: > Presumably -- now you have me interested so I am going to check > -- ClamAV does more than a naive pattern match on the URI and > apparently they even have (had) endless debates in the ClamAV > newsgroups/lists on this subject. Sure, and a

Re: unwanted breakthrough

2005-07-31 Thread Loren Wilton
> what is the \b for? Word break. There has to be a space or some other "non-word" character following the things in parends. Which is why peinss manages to not be hit. Word breaks are usually used to keep from hitting on unexpected things, like the middle of a word that is benign. Offhand I'm

Re: unwanted breakthrough

2005-07-31 Thread jdow
From: "Herb Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > -Original Message- > > From: jdow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > From: "Herb Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > * -3.5 HM_URIBL_SC_DBL Prevent SC-SC2 double score > > > * -2.5 HM_URIBL_SC_XS Prevent SC-XS double score > > > > Just set

Re: unwanted breakthrough

2005-07-31 Thread mouss
Herb Martin wrote: Looking over the scores, BODY_ENH seems to score 0 when network tests are enabled, so it would miss during network problems Wolfgang Hamann WHAT SARE rules are you running. Some are good for drug spam and some are not. I am running ALL of the following in additi

Re: unwanted breakthrough

2005-07-31 Thread jdow
From: "Herb Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I am running ALL of the following in addition to a few things > and some rescoring in my local.cf. I am NOT running the either > of the two large blacklists for URIs etc. since my SpamD seems to > get "memory sick" when they run (over a Meg each): > > 6

Re: spamd / isn't numeric in subroutine

2005-07-31 Thread Chris Martino
That doesn't turn up anything either. I've got a vanilla, out-of-the-box set of configs. :\ On Sun, 31 Jul 2005, Loren Wilton wrote: > > The problem is still happening. I'm willing to downgrade if you think > > that'll solve the problem. > > No, this is probably somethig else. I'd grep your va

RE: unwanted breakthrough

2005-07-31 Thread Herb Martin
> -Original Message- > From: jdow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 12:14 PM > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: unwanted breakthrough > > From: "Herb Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > * -3.5 HM_URIBL_SC_DBL Prevent SC-SC2 double score > > * -2.5 HM

RE: unwanted breakthrough

2005-07-31 Thread Herb Martin
> > Looking over the scores, BODY_ENH seems to score 0 when > network tests > > are > enabled, > > so it would miss during network problems > > > > Wolfgang Hamann > > WHAT SARE rules are you running. Some are good for drug spam > and some are not. I am running ALL of the following in addition

Re: unwanted breakthrough

2005-07-31 Thread Matt Kettler
At 08:48 AM 7/31/2005, Loren wrote: My guess, without looking at the rules in question, is simply that a smarter spammer played around until he found two specific mis-spellings that would not be caught by the obfuscated drugs and body parts tests, and then used those and only those two. Exactly

RE: Adding SpamBouncer phishing data to ph.surbl.org

2005-07-31 Thread hamann . w
>> >> I agree, we definitely need SURBL black lists. They have helped tremendously >> against spam! I just feel that it would be chasing one's tail a bit to try >> to catch phishing in SURBL. >> >> People who do phishing are going to change their IP address (IP where the >> actual target/sucker i

RE: Adding SpamBouncer phishing data to ph.surbl.org

2005-07-31 Thread Greg Allen
I agree, we definitely need SURBL black lists. They have helped tremendously against spam! I just feel that it would be chasing one's tail a bit to try to catch phishing in SURBL. People who do phishing are going to change their IP address (IP where the actual target/sucker is sent) frequently. Th

Re: Forcing autolearn

2005-07-31 Thread Magnus Holmgren
Matt Kettler wrote: >Magnus Holmgren wrote: >>Kai Schaetzl wrote: >>>Magnus Holmgren wrote on Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:06:20 +0200: >>> In other words, is there a way to bypass the 3 points minimum for header and body? (Why isn't that limit configurable, by the way?) >>> >>>It's trying to preve

Re: unwanted breakthrough

2005-07-31 Thread jdow
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi Herb, > > thanks for the quick reply. I am not really concerned about the lack of dns result > (when I retest this, I get ample points from various dns sources) > Maybe it was really brand new when I received it, or I might have had a temporary > network glitch. (I a

Re: unwanted breakthrough

2005-07-31 Thread jdow
From: "Herb Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * -3.5 HM_URIBL_SC_DBL Prevent SC-SC2 double score > * -2.5 HM_URIBL_SC_XS Prevent SC-XS double score Just set these scores to 0.1 or something tiny like that. Setting them to minus scores them minus, which you do not want. {^_^}

Re: spamd / isn't numeric in subroutine

2005-07-31 Thread Chris Martino
I'm running Net::DNS 0.53, which installed cleanly on my system. I've also cleaned out any errors generated by sa --lint. The problem is still happening. I'm willing to downgrade if you think that'll solve the problem. Thanks, Chris On Sat, 30 Jul 2005, Loren Wilton wrote: > > ul 30 19:13:29

Re: unwanted breakthrough

2005-07-31 Thread Loren Wilton
My guess, without looking at the rules in question, is simply that a smarter spammer played around until he found two specific mis-spellings that would not be caught by the obfuscated drugs and body parts tests, and then used those and only those two. The solution here is going to be to fix up som

RE: Adding SpamBouncer phishing data to ph.surbl.org

2005-07-31 Thread Herb Martin
> ClamAV is designed to protect against viruses. While their > anti-phishing function works well, phishes and spam are not > viruses. They probably felt the need to do something because > the phishing threat is pretty serious, or can be if people > get tricked by them, but we've had a SURBL p

RE: unwanted breakthrough

2005-07-31 Thread hamann . w
Hi Herb, thanks for the quick reply. I am not really concerned about the lack of dns result (when I retest this, I get ample points from various dns sources) Maybe it was really brand new when I received it, or I might have had a temporary network glitch. (I am in fact running on ADSL, with a

Re: Adding SpamBouncer phishing data to ph.surbl.org

2005-07-31 Thread Jeff Chan
On Saturday, July 30, 2005, 11:47:40 PM, Greg Allen wrote: > It seems like this would be a hard thing to do by IPs. If you were to use > Clamav and the Spamassassin hook (see wiki for it), you may get better near > real-time phishing protection. That is what I do here any way. I give Clamav > a 100

RE: unwanted breakthrough

2005-07-31 Thread Herb Martin
> for some reason the spam sample at > http://wolfgang.remsnet.de/medspam.txt > is only classified by html rules, and by various dns tests, > but the common drugs and human body part rules missed it. > Anyone would have an idea why this is so? > > I am running 3.0.4 default rules, plus a few SAR

unwanted breakthrough

2005-07-31 Thread hamann . w
Hi, for some reason the spam sample at http://wolfgang.remsnet.de/medspam.txt is only classified by html rules, and by various dns tests, but the common drugs and human body part rules missed it. Anyone would have an idea why this is so? I am running 3.0.4 default rules, plus a few SARE ones

Personal Bayes Score

2005-07-31 Thread Dhanny Kosasih
Hi, I installed qmail (only for smtp proxy) + spamassassin (userpref, bayes, awl store in mySQL). I use spamd and spamc to scan every email, but how can spamc scan email with personal configuration after scan with global configuration ? I want my user can configure bayesian, userpref, or awl for

Re: spamd / isn't numeric in subroutine

2005-07-31 Thread Matt Kettler
At 07:17 PM 7/30/2005, Chris Martino wrote: Hello, I've just upgraded my SA from 2.50 to 3.04, however the new installation seems to be generating a few errors when checking mail. I'm using SA with qmail-scanner 1.25 with spamd and spamc. When an email is getting scanned I get these errors in