emails bouncing when spamd times out

2005-06-03 Thread gene
I'm running spamd on a separate server from postfix. Postfix runs spamc with this configuration in master.cf: smtp inet n - y - - smtpd -o content_filter=spamc smtp unix - - y - - smtp -o content_filter=spamc spamc u

Re: Worst "Establishment" or "Household Name" Pseudo-Spammers

2005-06-03 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Rob, Friday, June 3, 2005, 12:50:26 PM, you wrote: RM> RE: Worst "Establishment" or "Household Name" Pseudo-Spammers RM> Any comments on Overstock and Staples? Lots of emails from Staples, and as far as I can tell every one has been subscribed for. Never seen any spam from them. No emai

Re: procmailrc being bypassed - again

2005-06-03 Thread Andy Jezierski
Jake Colman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 06/03/2005 02:47:15 PM: >    DBF> If the loadave does -not- go up (due to waiting for things like DNS >    DBF> queries) then you'll have to manually trigger the queuing behavior. >    DBF> Edit your sendmail.cf (or .mc) file to add the 'Expensive' flag ("

Re: Recommendation on SARE rules to add.

2005-06-03 Thread Vivek Khera
On Apr 13, 2005, at 8:16 PM, Robert Menschel wrote: And since I haven't seen any specific rule set files, I'll offer my suggestions there: Thanks for your list you posted a while back... it has been very helpful configuring my set of custom rules. Question: what is your opinion on the SA

Re: Are the RBL scores high enough?

2005-06-03 Thread Matt Kettler
Maurice Lucas wrote: > > Now we have to wait for 3.0.4 before there will be any change in the > static score's I hate to say it, but 3.0.4 is unlikely to change any scores. Usually there's a new score set at the beginning of a major release, and one "tweak" score update somewhere in the middle.

Re: Worst "Establishment" or "Household Name" Pseudo-Spammers

2005-06-03 Thread Craig Jackson
Rob McEwen wrote: RE: Worst "Establishment" or "Household Name" Pseudo-Spammers I've noticed that certain particular Fortune 500 (or similar "house-hold" name) companies send an awful lot of e-mail which I can't imagine was signed up for. In particular, I see a lot of Overstock and Staples messa

Worst "Establishment" or "Household Name" Pseudo-Spammers

2005-06-03 Thread Rob McEwen
RE: Worst "Establishment" or "Household Name" Pseudo-Spammers I've noticed that certain particular Fortune 500 (or similar "house-hold" name) companies send an awful lot of e-mail which I can't imagine was signed up for. In particular, I see a lot of Overstock and Staples messages sent frequently

Re: procmailrc being bypassed - again

2005-06-03 Thread Jake Colman
> "DBF" == David B Funk writes: DBF> On Thu, 2 Jun 2005, Jake Colman wrote: >> >> I posted this problem last week and was told that it might be due to an >> SA problem when overwhelmed by too many connections. This problem only >> occurs when my server has been off-line and

Re: Are the RBL scores high enough?

2005-06-03 Thread Maurice Lucas
From: "Matt Kettler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 9:30 PM Kevin Sullivan wrote: On Jun 2, 2005, at 8:27 PM, Matt Kettler wrote: If one's wrong, they are ALL wrong. SA's rule scores are evolved based on a real-world test of a hand-sorted corpus of fresh spam and ham. The w

Re: Are the RBL scores high enough?

2005-06-03 Thread Matt Kettler
Kevin Sullivan wrote: > On Jun 2, 2005, at 8:27 PM, Matt Kettler wrote: > >> If one's wrong, they are ALL wrong. >> >> SA's rule scores are evolved based on a real-world test of a >> hand-sorted corpus of fresh spam and ham. The whole scoreset is >> evolved simultaneously to optimize the placement

Re: Is Bayes Really Necessary?

2005-06-03 Thread Jeff Chan
On Friday, June 3, 2005, 3:47:05 AM, Loren Wilton wrote: >>> If that statement is true, perhaps the surbl lists could automatically >>> include the dotquads for hosts that are known to be pure spam >>> sources and >>> not mixed systems.  Then the client could get the ip for a suspect hostn

Re: validating i.p.'s

2005-06-03 Thread Matt Kettler
Rick Macdougall wrote: > > > Thomas Deaton wrote: > >> How do I check that an incoming email has a valid i.p.? >> >> thanks > > > Hi, > > If it's not a valid IP then how does it get to your server ? Tcp blind spoofing attack? This is not exactly a workable option for most attackers in tr

Re: Are the RBL scores high enough?

2005-06-03 Thread Kevin Sullivan
On Jun 2, 2005, at 8:27 PM, Matt Kettler wrote: If one's wrong, they are ALL wrong. SA's rule scores are evolved based on a real-world test of a hand-sorted corpus of fresh spam and ham. The whole scoreset is evolved simultaneously to optimize the placement pattern. Of course, one thing that

Re: URIDNSBL.pm improvements in 3.1?

2005-06-03 Thread Stuart Johnston
Ben Poliakoff wrote: So I've noticed that the URIDNSBL.pm in the 3.1 snapshots seems to recognize obfuscated URIs much better than in 3.0.x. In other words I was looking at a message that my relatively well maintained 3.0.3 installation didn't catch. Then I tried running the same message thr

Re: validating i.p.'s

2005-06-03 Thread Matt Kettler
Thomas Deaton wrote: > I mean the people are not who they say they are... take the latest Ebay > "click here" spam, for instance. The "click here" gets you a virus, but the > sender is not from Ebay... he just looks like he is.. sorry if I'm not making > more sense. > Ahh, you don't want to va

Re: URIDNSBL.pm improvements in 3.1?

2005-06-03 Thread Ben Poliakoff
* Stuart Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20050603 11:09]: > >Is there any straightforward way to backport some of this goodness to > >3.0.x? I don't mind running the development snapshots at home but at > >work I have to answer to a couple thousand users... > >

Re: validating i.p.'s

2005-06-03 Thread Niek
On 6/3/2005 8:37 PM +0200, Thomas Deaton wrote: I mean the people are not who they say they are... take the latest Ebay "click here" spam, for instance. The "click here" gets you a virus, but the sender is not from Ebay... he just looks like he is.. sorry if I'm not making more sense. spf Ni

RE: validating i.p.'s

2005-06-03 Thread Thomas Deaton
I mean the people are not who they say they are... take the latest Ebay "click here" spam, for instance. The "click here" gets you a virus, but the sender is not from Ebay... he just looks like he is.. sorry if I'm not making more sense. -Original Message- From: Rick Macdougall [mailto:[

Re: validating i.p.'s

2005-06-03 Thread Niek
On 6/3/2005 8:31 PM +0200, Thomas Deaton wrote: How do I check that an incoming email has a valid i.p.? What is a valid ip ? Niek Baakman

Re: validating i.p.'s

2005-06-03 Thread Rick Macdougall
Thomas Deaton wrote: How do I check that an incoming email has a valid i.p.? thanks Hi, If it's not a valid IP then how does it get to your server ? Rick

validating i.p.'s

2005-06-03 Thread Thomas Deaton
How do I check that an incoming email has a valid i.p.?   thanks E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized county official. If you have received this communication in error , p

Re: Strange Bounce [Was: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender]

2005-06-03 Thread Matt Kettler
Martin G. Diehl wrote: > Why would someone (for example, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) > signup to an eMail list ... and then require authentication? > > Just curious ... > Because it's easier to make mistakes than it is to make it work. My guess is pn-systeme.de recently decided to require authen

Re: Comparing subject and body?

2005-06-03 Thread List Mail User
>... > >At 08:17 AM 6/3/2005, Sven Riedel wrote: >>I've recently started getting spams that contain as a body the exact >>same string as the subject and one URI underneath. >> >>Is there any way to carry the result of one match forward to another? > >That's tricky, but you might be able to use the

Re: Is Bayes Really Necessary?

2005-06-03 Thread Alex Broens
List Mail User wrote: And adding a URI rule for the completewhois list (basically the same function as the no longer existing ipwhois.rfc-ignorant.org list) will hit yet more name servers and spammer IPs with slightly fewer FPs (no issue with escalations). The list is: combined-HIB.dnsi

Re: 3.0.3 uses all CPUs after tie

2005-06-03 Thread Michael Parker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Daubenspeck wrote: >On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 11:40:39AM -0700, Justin Mason wrote: > >>can you repro this reliably? if so, output from -D and/or an "strace >>- -f -p $spamdpid" would be helpful. > > >>From top: > >28702 nobody 25 0 781m 714m 17

Re: Is Bayes Really Necessary?

2005-06-03 Thread List Mail User
>... > >On Friday, June 3, 2005, 12:33:26 AM, Duncan Hill wrote: >> On Friday 03 June 2005 08:10, Loren Wilton typed: >>> It was basically "the spammer makes a zillion new domains, and they all >>> take time to get into SURBL, so some spam gets through.  But they all point >>> to the same dotted qu

RE: Is Bayes Really Necessary?

2005-06-03 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: Loren Wilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 6:47 AM >To: Duncan Hill; users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Re: Is Bayes Really Necessary? > > >>> If that statement is true, perhaps the surbl lists could >automatically >>> include the

Re: Question on ISP's, verizon TBS.

2005-06-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 June 2005 10:01, jdow wrote: >From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> On Friday 03 June 2005 00:41, Codger wrote: >> >Hmmm. You mistake Verizon for someone who gives a care I think. >> >> Thats the impression I'm getting, except I would state it a bit >> more correct as opposed t

RE: Comparing subject and body?

2005-06-03 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: Sven Riedel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 8:18 AM >To: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Comparing subject and body? > > >Hi, > >I've recently started getting spams that contain as a body the exact >same string as the subject and

RE: [SURBL-Discuss] Blogger attacks SURBL

2005-06-03 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: Michele Neylon :: Blacknight Solutions >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 5:05 AM >To: 'Jeff Chan'; 'SURBL Discussion list'; 'SpamAssassin Users' >Subject: RE: [SURBL-Discuss] Blogger attacks SURBL > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Pardon the

Re: Question on ISP's, verizon TBS.

2005-06-03 Thread Menno van Bennekom
> Hmmm. You mistake Verizon for someone who gives a care I think. > > (Indeed this list will get this reply but most assuredly since > Verizon chooses to blacklist everyone outside Verizon as a solution > to spam.) Still funny that Verizon, because I see them as one of the most active spammers them

Re: 3.0.3 uses all CPUs after tie

2005-06-03 Thread Matthew Daubenspeck
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 11:40:39AM -0700, Justin Mason wrote: > can you repro this reliably? if so, output from -D and/or an "strace > - -f -p $spamdpid" would be helpful. >From top: 28702 nobody25 0 781m 714m 1796 R 99.9 35.5 4:11.72 spamd That's the "runaway process." # strace -f -p

Re: Question on ISP's, verizon TBS.

2005-06-03 Thread jdow
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Friday 03 June 2005 00:41, Codger wrote: > >Hmmm. You mistake Verizon for someone who gives a care I think. > > > Thats the impression I'm getting, except I would state it a bit more > correct as opposed to PC. The only real way is to speak with you

Re: Question on ISP's, verizon TBS.

2005-06-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 June 2005 00:41, Codger wrote: >Hmmm. You mistake Verizon for someone who gives a care I think. > Thats the impression I'm getting, except I would state it a bit more correct as opposed to PC. The only real way is to speak with your checkbook, its the only thing they understand. Un

RE: Dump stats into mysql?

2005-06-03 Thread Kristopher Austin
I'm definitely interested in such a script. Thanks, Kris -Original Message- From: Kevin Peuhkurinen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 6:37 AM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Dump stats into mysql? MIKE YRABEDRA wrote: >Hello, > >I am running a couple

Strange Bounce [Was: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender]

2005-06-03 Thread Martin G. Diehl
Why would someone (for example, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) signup to an eMail list ... and then require authentication? Just curious ... IMO, if you don't want eMail, don't signup to an active eMail list. Message With Full Headers From: - Tue May 31 07:28:42 2005 X-UIDL: 11175

Re: Whitelisting a host?

2005-06-03 Thread Matt Kettler
At 02:16 AM 6/3/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, can i whitelisting a host? If yes, how can i do this ? One trick I've seen used is to (ab)?use whitelist_from_rcvd for this: whitelist_from_rcvd [EMAIL PROTECTED] somehost.example.com

RE: sa-learn ldap to exchange? (Try IMAP)

2005-06-03 Thread Mike Schrauder
> Subject: sa-learn ldap to exchange? > I am sorry. No more posts before coffee. I had my acronyms confused. IMAP, not LDAP big difference! Not surprisingly, I can now find the 'fetchmail' article in question. http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/RemoteImapFolder Mike S

Re: Comparing subject and body?

2005-06-03 Thread Matt Kettler
At 08:17 AM 6/3/2005, Sven Riedel wrote: I've recently started getting spams that contain as a body the exact same string as the subject and one URI underneath. Is there any way to carry the result of one match forward to another? That's tricky, but you might be able to use the fact that SA tr

Re: Who did it?

2005-06-03 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:20 AM 6/3/2005, Nabil Sabry wrote: Dear all, I have been recently added to this tool. BOTH the IT team and the ISP claim they know nothing about it! Is there any means to know who added me? regards nabil Look at the X-Spam-Checker-Version headers in your messages, they should tell you w

sa-learn ldap to exchange?

2005-06-03 Thread Mike Schrauder
someone had posted here about a month back a neat (albeit long) one line command he was running to yank spams from an excachange public folder to feed to sa-learn. I believe he referred to a wiki article describing it in detail. I am having much difficulty locating that article. Can someone her

Comparing subject and body?

2005-06-03 Thread Sven Riedel
Hi, I've recently started getting spams that contain as a body the exact same string as the subject and one URI underneath. Is there any way to carry the result of one match forward to another? Regs, Sven

Re: Dump stats into mysql?

2005-06-03 Thread Kevin Peuhkurinen
MIKE YRABEDRA wrote: Hello, I am running a couple stats scripts that output info every day. Does anyone have a script that ( or know of one ) that will dump the info in a mysql database for later processing? I don't know what format you are doing the output in, but I have a script that I u

Dump stats into mysql?

2005-06-03 Thread MIKE YRABEDRA
Hello, I am running a couple stats scripts that output info every day. Does anyone have a script that ( or know of one ) that will dump the info in a mysql database for later processing? TIA :-)> Mike

Re: Who did it?

2005-06-03 Thread The Doctor
On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 07:20:36AM +0300, Nabil Sabry wrote: > Dear all, > I have been recently added to this tool. > BOTH the IT team and the ISP claim they know nothing about it! > Is there any means to know who added me? > regards > nabil > Some like a harbester wanting to cause trouble. --

Re: Is Bayes Really Necessary?

2005-06-03 Thread Loren Wilton
>> If that statement is true, perhaps the surbl lists could automatically >> include the dotquads for hosts that are known to be pure spam >> sources and >> not mixed systems.  Then the client could get the ip for a suspect hostname >> and see if it matched a known spam dotquad. > I'd swe

Re: Whitelisting a host?

2005-06-03 Thread Steven Dickenson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can i whitelisting a host? If yes, how can i do this ? This is probably better done in your MTA or Procmail file, but something like this should suffice. whitelist_from_rcvd [EMAIL PROTECTED] host.tld Replace host.tld with the actual hostname of the server you wish

Re: Is Bayes Really Necessary?

2005-06-03 Thread Jeff Chan
On Friday, June 3, 2005, 12:33:26 AM, Duncan Hill wrote: > On Friday 03 June 2005 08:10, Loren Wilton typed: >> It was basically "the spammer makes a zillion new domains, and they all >> take time to get into SURBL, so some spam gets through.  But they all point >> to the same dotted quad, and I ca

Re: Who did it?

2005-06-03 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Friday, June 03, 2005 7:20 AM +0300 Nabil Sabry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have been recently added to this tool. BOTH the IT team and the ISP claim they know nothing about it! Is there any means to know who added me? Check the entire message, including all the headers. There should b

Re: Is Bayes Really Necessary?

2005-06-03 Thread Duncan Hill
On Friday 03 June 2005 08:10, Loren Wilton typed: > It was basically "the spammer makes a zillion new domains, and they all > take time to get into SURBL, so some spam gets through.  But they all point > to the same dotted quad, and I can match on that lookup". > > If that statement is true, perhap

Re: Is Bayes Really Necessary?

2005-06-03 Thread Loren Wilton
> SURBLs on the other hand have mostly domain names with a few IPs. > Whatever appears in URI host portions is what goes into SURBLs. > Usually URIs have domain names so that's what most of the SURBL > records are. Jeff, the OP (or someone) had an interesting idea, I thought. It was basically "th