Re: Additional SPAM recognition method

2005-05-23 Thread List Mail User
>... > >From: "Keith Ivey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> List Mail User wrote: >> >> > Legitimate domains will use wildcards for 'NS', 'MX' and even >> > occasionally for some more obscure records, but an 'A' or 'CNAME' >> > record is nearly always a spammer. >> >> Do you have any statistics for that?

Re: Additional SPAM recognition method

2005-05-23 Thread List Mail User
>... > >List Mail User wrote: > >> Legitimate domains will use wildcards for 'NS', 'MX' and even >> occasionally for some more obscure records, but an 'A' or 'CNAME' >> record is nearly always a spammer. > >Do you have any statistics for that? I administer plenty of domains >that have wildcard A

Re: How to exlcude spamassassin check for some users?

2005-05-23 Thread Monty Ree
Hello, Rich Puhek. So thanks for your answer. It is what I wanted and works well. Thanks again. From: Rich Puhek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Monty Ree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: spamassassin-users@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: How to exlcude spamassassin check for some users? Date: Mon, 23 May 2

Re: Additional SPAM recognition method

2005-05-23 Thread evan
Quoting Keith Ivey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: List Mail User wrote: Legitimate domains will use wildcards for 'NS', 'MX' and even occasionally for some more obscure records, but an 'A' or 'CNAME' record is nearly always a spammer. Do you have any statistics for that? I administer plenty of domain

Re: Additional SPAM recognition method

2005-05-23 Thread evan
Quoting List Mail User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Looks like I slightly over estimated. I just checked the last 40 spams I received. After ignoring 419s, stock pumps and phishing I found 14 without wildcards and 21 with - exactly 60% (only one had a 'CNAME' wildcard, the rest were all 'A' re

Re: Additional SPAM recognition method

2005-05-23 Thread Keith Ivey
jdow wrote: One must wonder at their motivations for allowing things like wassyup.metazeek.spindrift.metafilter.com. Is there a good one? I'm not sure about metafilter.com. It could just be that Matt Haughey doesn't want to mess with his DNS whenever he wants to set up a new subdomain, like

Re: Additional SPAM recognition method

2005-05-23 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 08:26:45PM -0700, jdow wrote: > One must wonder at their motivations for allowing things like > wassyup.metazeek.spindrift.metafilter.com. Is there a good one? It's good when you have a single setup serving all your websites, for instance. I do this for all of my domains (

Re: Additional SPAM recognition method

2005-05-23 Thread jdow
From: "Keith Ivey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > List Mail User wrote: > > > Legitimate domains will use wildcards for 'NS', 'MX' and even > > occasionally for some more obscure records, but an 'A' or 'CNAME' > > record is nearly always a spammer. > > Do you have any statistics for that? I administer p

Re: Additional SPAM recognition method

2005-05-23 Thread jdow
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Quoting Justin Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >> A similar idea, without the "back-channel" flaw is to test the > >> domain for either 'CNAME' or 'A' record `wildcards' (as in the command > >> "dig '*.spammer_domain.tld' a" and "dig '*.spammer_domain.tld' cname"). > >>

Re[2]: Setting up a rejection limit

2005-05-23 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Sandy, Monday, May 23, 2005, 7:19:13 AM, you wrote: >> > How can one use user_prefs to tell spamassassin to reject spam >> > tagged at level N at just send it back to them? >> >> You can't. >> >> SA is not designed to delete, deliver or bounce mail. It is designed to >> scan and identify SP

Re: Additional SPAM recognition method

2005-05-23 Thread Keith Ivey
List Mail User wrote: Legitimate domains will use wildcards for 'NS', 'MX' and even occasionally for some more obscure records, but an 'A' or 'CNAME' record is nearly always a spammer. Do you have any statistics for that? I administer plenty of domains that have wildcard A records, and I'm n

Re: How to exlcude spamassassin check for some users?

2005-05-23 Thread Rich Puhek
Monty Ree wrote: > Hello, all. > > As you know spamd use lots of memory and CPU resources. > So I would like to exclude spamassassin check for some users who receive > lots of mails. > > How can I do this? I came up with a procmail and perl solution to do just what you need. Been working well f

Re: {SPAM} Bayes expiring during message test

2005-05-23 Thread Matt Kettler
Ben Wylie wrote: > I am running SA 3.02 on a Windows 2003 server. > As previously posted to this list I have had a problem where SA seems unable > to remove a bayes lock file or something like that. > > I include complete logs below to show what it is like - I apologise for the > size of it. > >

Re: SA Being Bypassed?

2005-05-23 Thread David B Funk
On Sun, 22 May 2005, Elizabeth Schwartz wrote: > I'm sorry, I shoudln't post late at night. I am running SA as a > sendmail milter. And of course SA is happy to filter again mail which > has been filtered once - but I would love some way to tell it NOT to. > I have an external relay running SA, a

Re: Additional SPAM recognition method

2005-05-23 Thread List Mail User
>> >... >> >> A similar idea, without the "back-channel" flaw is to test the >> domain for either 'CNAME' or 'A' record `wildcards' (as in the command >> "dig '*.spammer_domain.tld' a" and "dig '*.spammer_domain.tld' cname"). >> This is an excellent spam sign (the host portion of the name is

Bayes expiring during message test

2005-05-23 Thread Ben Wylie
I am running SA 3.02 on a Windows 2003 server. As previously posted to this list I have had a problem where SA seems unable to remove a bayes lock file or something like that. I include complete logs below to show what it is like - I apologise for the size of it. First of all, I was wondering if

changing bayes from individual to global

2005-05-23 Thread lists
Hello, I am currently running SA 3.03 with bayes, and bayes is storing all of its data into a mysql DB. As this was all installed via PSoft's HSphere, I didn't actually pick the specific configuration myself. On my system, bayes is trained per mailbox individually, and I am wanting to change th

Re: Additional SPAM recognition method

2005-05-23 Thread evan
Quoting Justin Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: A similar idea, without the "back-channel" flaw is to test the domain for either 'CNAME' or 'A' record `wildcards' (as in the command "dig '*.spammer_domain.tld' a" and "dig '*.spammer_domain.tld' cname"). This is an excellent spam sign (the host

Re: Additional SPAM recognition method

2005-05-23 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 jdow writes: > From: "Justin Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > - - if a spammer were to use a hostname like > > "jm_at_jmason_dot_org.spamdomain.com", they get a free backchannel to > > verify that I was (a) using SpamAssassin to filter to my mail

Re: Additional SPAM recognition method

2005-05-23 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 List Mail User writes: > >Theo Van Dinter writes: > >> On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 06:45:12PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > Here's the algorithm: > >> > > >> > 1 Decode any URL-encoding in the message > >> > 2 Un-MIME the message > >> > >

Re: Additional SPAM recognition method

2005-05-23 Thread jdow
From: "Justin Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > - - if a spammer were to use a hostname like > "jm_at_jmason_dot_org.spamdomain.com", they get a free backchannel to > verify that I was (a) using SpamAssassin to filter to my mail, and (b) > that that address is valid. So blindly resolving the ful

Re: Additional SPAM recognition method

2005-05-23 Thread List Mail User
>... > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > > >Theo Van Dinter writes: >> On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 06:45:12PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > Here's the algorithm: >> > >> > 1 Decode any URL-encoding in the message >> > 2 Un-MIME the message >> >> Wrong order? >> >> > 3

Re: Additional SPAM recognition method

2005-05-23 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Theo Van Dinter writes: > On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 06:45:12PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Here's the algorithm: > > > > 1 Decode any URL-encoding in the message > > 2 Un-MIME the message > > Wrong order? > > > 3 Scan all parts of th

Re: Additional SPAM recognition method

2005-05-23 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 06:45:12PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Here's the algorithm: > > 1 Decode any URL-encoding in the message > 2 Un-MIME the message Wrong order? > 3 Scan all parts of the message for URLs and email addresses (this can be > links, IMG tags, mailto:'s, or even

Additional SPAM recognition method

2005-05-23 Thread evan
I'd like to contribute some research I've done on spam that doesn't use traditional bayes filters or other scoring methods nor traditional DNS BLs. Its either spam or its not, but I'd like to see this technique in spamassasin, possibly with really high scores for things that this method says are "s

How to exlcude spamassassin check for some users?

2005-05-23 Thread Monty Ree
Hello, all. As you know spamd use lots of memory and CPU resources. So I would like to exclude spamassassin check for some users who receive lots of mails. How can I do this? my procmailrc file is below... DROPPRIVS=yes #Spamassassin start :0fw: spamassassin.lock * < 256000 | /usr/bin/spamc -

maildrop and spamassassin

2005-05-23 Thread Jennifer Lai
Hi, I have installed SpamAssassin and Maildrop on local machine. With the help of this website, http://www.firstpr.com.au/web-mail/Postfix-SA-Anomy-Maildrop/, I can receive non-spam messages without any problem. However, when it comes to spam messages, spamd detects its spam message, but fa

RE: [OT] Public Folders in Exchange 2003

2005-05-23 Thread Sloan, Craig
The setting here is "Determined by individual user settings". Also the messege encoding is set to MIME and both is selected. I'm going to keep an eye on the folder and make sure it keeping the original format. Craig -Original Message- From: Wolfgang Zeikat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sen

RE: debug and STDERR

2005-05-23 Thread Steven Manross
Thanks Justin. I'll try that later. Steven -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 12:05 AM To: Steven Manross Cc: Loren Wilton; users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: debug and STDERR -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash

Re: [OT] Public Folders in Exchange 2003

2005-05-23 Thread Wolfgang Zeikat
On 05/23/05 17:44, Sloan, Craig wrote: Examining the properties of the servers public folders, I cannot see any settings that would change the format of the message. If I check the properties of the public spam folder w/Outlook, it is set to use IPM.post. Craig, in the Exchange System Manag

RE: spamc/spamd setup not adding headers

2005-05-23 Thread Bryce Kahle
That did the trick. Thanks a bunch! Bryce Kahle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Systems Administrator - Binary Net 1-402-742-7042 http://www.binary.net/ -Original Message- From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 23 May, 2005 12:02 PM To: Bryce Kahle Cc: users@spamassassin.apache

Re: spamc/spamd setup not adding headers

2005-05-23 Thread Matt Kettler
Bryce Kahle wrote: > spamd options: > -c -d -r /var/run/spamd.pid -C /usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin/ > I think you want --siteconfigpath not -C above... -C should be /usr/share/spamassassin or /usr/local/share/spamassassin. Since you've managed to eliminate all the default rulefiles from being

spamc/spamd setup not adding headers

2005-05-23 Thread Bryce Kahle
I am evaluating version 3.02 of spamassassin and I'm running into some problems. I am using a spamc/spamd setup via procmail for each opt-in user with a .procmailrc in the user's home directory. My problem is that spamc/spamd doesn't seem to be adding the X-Spam-Status or any of the other headers t

RE: [OT] Public Folders in Exchange 2003

2005-05-23 Thread Sloan, Craig
I am not seeing that behavior w/Outlook 2003 as the client moving the mail to our public Spam folder. They are remaining plain text. I have instructed the users to click, drag the messages to the folder, not "send to:". Also to prevent embarrassment (and possible sexual harassment suit?) the users

[OT] Public Folders in Exchange 2003

2005-05-23 Thread Wolfgang Zeikat
We are trying to use a public folder on an Exchange 2003 server to store spam for sa-learn. When a user copies a mail into that folder with outlook, plain text mails get converted to text and HTML. Copied with mozilla mail via IMAP, the mails stay unchanged. What are the necessary steps to pre

Re: New Bayes DB install

2005-05-23 Thread Duncan Hill
On Monday 23 May 2005 16:02, Joe Borg typed: > incorrectly trained it. Is it possible to upgrade but force spamassassin to > install a new/fresh bayes db? Remove the bayes files and SA will re-create them.

New Bayes DB install

2005-05-23 Thread Joe Borg
Hi, I'm still pretty much a newbie to Spamassassin so please excuse me if I'm asking an already answered questions; however, I've searched the site for an answer and could not find one. I'm currently running Spamassassin v. 2.63 and would like to upgrade to the latest version in the coming weeks.

Re: debug and STDERR

2005-05-23 Thread JamesDR
Steven Manross wrote: Thanks for the response. Well, I am calling the SA classes directly as perl via "PerlScript"... Similar to VB and how an ASP page is called from IIS (but by perlse.dll). EX: use Mail::SpamAssassin; Etc, etc. Namely, the SMTP Exchange interface ('Simple Mail Transfer

Re: Setting up a rejection limit

2005-05-23 Thread Sandy S
- Original Message - From: "guenther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Doctor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 8:27 AM Subject: Re: Setting up a rejection limit > On Sun, 2005-05-22 at 07:03 -0600, The Doctor wrote: > > How can one use user_prefs to tell spamassassin to

RE: spamd keep growing up in memory size

2005-05-23 Thread jj-ml
Thank for the quick answer Loren. I'will try the --max-conn-per-child=100 option to see how it work. Also, i resolve my syntax error just after posting.. Thank Julien

Re: bayes training question

2005-05-23 Thread mizzio
Thank very much Loren. regards, mizzio Il giorno lun, 23-05-2005 alle 04:51 -0700, Loren Wilton ha scritto: > > - I get some messages marked as SPAM coming form this mailing list, > > since the body contains URLs and text from real spam messages: do I have > > to feed them in my DB as ham or this

Re: new meds spam agaianst SARS viruses? this may help

2005-05-23 Thread Jeff Chan
On Sunday, May 22, 2005, 10:19:39 AM, Bookworm wrote: > However, here's the chuckle part. It's a quote from a NY Times article. > "But apparently even the swindlers have sometimes been stung. "We accept > Western Union Money Transfer as the only payment method due to some > reasons from our past

Re: bayes training question

2005-05-23 Thread Loren Wilton
> - I get some messages marked as SPAM coming form this mailing list, > since the body contains URLs and text from real spam messages: do I have > to feed them in my DB as ham or this can cause some kind of bayes > poisoning ? The best thing is to avoid having the mail from this list go through SA

bayes training question

2005-05-23 Thread mizzio
Hi everybody, first post on this list so please be patient if I'm asking dumb questions. :-) I have a spamassassin 3.0.3 mail gateway which is working pretty well and I train the bayesian DB everyday. I have a couple of questions on this: - I get some messages marked as SPAM coming form this mai

Re: spamd keep growing up in memory size

2005-05-23 Thread Loren Wilton
> Everything works fine BUT spamd keeps become bigger and bigger. > When i start it, it take about 31M of memory per child (i get 5) and after a > week, it grows up to 43M of memory. > Is it a problem? Will it grow over and over? Considering the number of add-on rules files, 43M is probably only a

spamd keep growing up in memory size

2005-05-23 Thread jj-ml
Hi all, I am a little worry. I've just install SA 3.03 (perl 5.6.1) with qmail and maildrop, on a debian stable. It runs Razor, Pyzor, DCC and URIDNSBL. I use MySQL to store Bayes, awl and rules. It is base on a per user config so user1 and user2 doesn't have the same bayes and awl training. Every

Re: set all scores to 0?

2005-05-23 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas Zehetbauer writes: > On Sat, 2005-05-21 at 22:24 -0400, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > > Move aside/delete the default rule files. There's no point in a config > > option to ignore other config options. ;) > > I think there is: default config goes

Re: debug and STDERR

2005-05-23 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 FWIW, you may be open to use my $f = fileno(STDERR); close(STDERR); use POSIX (); if ($f != 2) { POSIX::close(2); } open STDERR, ">log.txt" or warn "open failed"; ie. persuade perl to set up your *own* stderr on fd 2. Perl w