Re: SA addr tests need to be updated

2005-03-09 Thread Eric A. Hall
On 3/9/2005 6:08 PM, Justin Mason wrote: > mouss writes: > >>Do you mean it's deliberate to catch this (as a helo ip mismatch): >> >> Received: from unknown (HELO 212.27.42.19) (218.190.234.6) >> >>but not this >> >> Received: from unknown (HELO [212.27.42.19]) (218.190.234.6) > yes.

Re: multiple hosts for spamc -d ?

2005-03-09 Thread email builder
> >>> Some postings a while back led me to believe that I could specify > >>> multiple hosts for the -d option of spamc. I understood that it > >>> would operate basically on a fallback basis (not load balancing). > >>> However, I can't seem to get spamc to use more than one of the -d > >>> listin

Re: SA addr tests need to be updated

2005-03-09 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 mouss writes: > Do you mean it's deliberate to catch this (as a helo ip mismatch): > > Received: from unknown (HELO 212.27.42.19) (218.190.234.6) > > but not this > > Received: from unknown (HELO [212.27.42.19]) (218.190.234.6) > > I c

Re: SA addr tests need to be updated

2005-03-09 Thread Eric A. Hall
On 3/9/2005 5:17 PM, List Mail User wrote: > Postfix option "reject_invalid_hostname" will reject bare > IPs (when used in the "smtpd_helo_restrictions" section of main.cf). Good to hear this was fixed. I filed a bug report on it in May '04 but didn't get much of a response. I'll have to u

Re: SA addr tests need to be updated

2005-03-09 Thread mouss
Justin Mason wrote: Eric A. Hall writes: SA 3.0.2 currently performs a handful of tests against HELO greetings that contain an IP address. These tests don't currently fire when an "address literal" is used in the HELO greeting, but they should. actually, that's deliberate -- compare the fre

Re: SA addr tests need to be updated

2005-03-09 Thread List Mail User
> > >On 3/9/2005 3:29 PM, List Mail User wrote: > >>> See section 3.6 of RFC 2821: >>> >>> | - The domain name given in the EHLO command MUST BE either a >>> primary |host name (a domain name that resolves to an A RR) or, >>> if the host |has no name, an address literal as described in >>

Re: multiple hosts for spamc -d ?

2005-03-09 Thread email builder
> > Some postings a while back led me to believe that I could specify > multiple > > hosts for the -d option of spamc. I understood that it would operate > > basically on a fallback basis (not load balancing). However, I can't > seem to > > get spamc to use more than one of the -d listings. I'

Re: Possible per-user "levels of grey" whitelist

2005-03-09 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 should still be OK for whitelisting purposes -- as the words in the mail will be correct. I wouldn't use it to learn a mail as spam, of course, but as ham it won't do any harm. - --j. Linda W writes: > Do you mean have it learn on my "Sent folder"

Re: Possible per-user "levels of grey" whitelist

2005-03-09 Thread Linda W
Do you mean have it learn on my "Sent folder" list? Would it help that much though since the sender is always me and will be lacking all the Received markers that incoming mail normally has? Justin Mason wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Effectively, there's already a way to do

Re: SA addr tests need to be updated

2005-03-09 Thread Eric A. Hall
On 3/9/2005 3:29 PM, List Mail User wrote: >> See section 3.6 of RFC 2821: >> >> | - The domain name given in the EHLO command MUST BE either a >> primary |host name (a domain name that resolves to an A RR) or, >> if the host |has no name, an address literal as described in >> section 4

Re: SPF problems with this list

2005-03-09 Thread Matt Kettler
At 07:57 AM 3/9/2005, Steven Stern wrote: The record was "v=spf1 a mx ptr include:earthlink.net ~all" I smarthost my mail through smtpauth.earthlink.net. The mail path then bounces around inside earthlink for a while. The "spf why" page says: hermes.apache.org saw a message coming from the IP addr

Re: SA addr tests need to be updated

2005-03-09 Thread Eric A. Hall
On 3/9/2005 4:01 PM, Justin Mason wrote: >>SA 3.0.2 currently performs a handful of tests against HELO greetings that >>contain an IP address. These tests don't currently fire when an "address >>literal" is used in the HELO greeting, but they should. > > actually, that's deliberate -- compare th

Re: SA addr tests need to be updated

2005-03-09 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eric A. Hall writes: > SA 3.0.2 currently performs a handful of tests against HELO greetings that > contain an IP address. These tests don't currently fire when an "address > literal" is used in the HELO greeting, but they should. actually, that's de

Re: SA addr tests need to be updated

2005-03-09 Thread List Mail User
Eric, I believe that you have misinterpreted (and only partially quoted) RFC2821. A more correct interpretation (or at least different) and a fuller set of quotations is below. > >SA 3.0.2 currently performs a handful of tests against HELO greetings that >contain an IP address. T

Re: running spamd remotely

2005-03-09 Thread dave
On Wed, 9 Mar 2005, Dave Goodrich wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is involved in setting up spamassassin to run on a remote machine? After installing it on hostA (mailserver) and hostB, I get onto hostA and tweak my procmailrc to have :0fw: $HOME/spamassassin.lock | $SPAMHOME/bin/spamc -d host

Re: running spamd remotely

2005-03-09 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:31 PM 3/9/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $SPAMHOME/bin/spamd -d --syslog-socket=inet -r /var/tmp/spamdnew.pid \ --allowed-ips= But I don't even see anything in syslog on hostB. erm, that's not going to cause it to syslog to hostB... that's going to cause spamd to allow hostB to run spamc

Re: URIBL_SBL Weirdness

2005-03-09 Thread Matt Kettler
At 10:50 AM 3/9/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone explain to me what the URIBL_SBL rule does (I.e. which list Is used) I have an email that this rule catches because of a email address inside it. The SpamAssassin report lists it as : 0.6 URIBL_SBL Contains an URL listed in the SBL blockli

Re: SPF problems with this list

2005-03-09 Thread jdow
I believe you have to rely on Earthlink's "smtpauth" for its SPF. That's what I do. {^_^} - Original Message - From: "Steven Stern" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > My SPF record was working, but is now failing for this list. So, it > seems that SPF checking has ratcheted up a notch. I've deleted

Re: running spamd remotely

2005-03-09 Thread Dave Goodrich
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is involved in setting up spamassassin to run on a remote machine? After installing it on hostA (mailserver) and hostB, I get onto hostA and tweak my procmailrc to have :0fw: $HOME/spamassassin.lock | $SPAMHOME/bin/spamc -d hostB.FQDN ... (if spam, then filter) What do

SA addr tests need to be updated

2005-03-09 Thread Eric A. Hall
SA 3.0.2 currently performs a handful of tests against HELO greetings that contain an IP address. These tests don't currently fire when an "address literal" is used in the HELO greeting, but they should. See section 3.6 of RFC 2821: | - The domain name given in the EHLO command MUST BE either a

Re: running spamd remotely

2005-03-09 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is involved in setting up spamassassin to run on a remote machine? After installing it on hostA (mailserver) and hostB, I get onto hostA and tweak my procmailrc to have :0fw: $HOME/spamassassin.lock | $SPAMHOME/bin/spamc -d hostB.FQDN ... (if spam, then filter) And on

running spamd remotely

2005-03-09 Thread dave
What is involved in setting up spamassassin to run on a remote machine? After installing it on hostA (mailserver) and hostB, I get onto hostA and tweak my procmailrc to have :0fw: $HOME/spamassassin.lock | $SPAMHOME/bin/spamc -d hostB.FQDN ... (if spam, then filter) And on hostB, I start it up with

Re: Whitelist collection project

2005-03-09 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Kelson wrote: Chris Santerre wrote: Second, I believe SPF records can be spoofed Only to the extent that any DNS record can be spoofed. use in a disposibal manner. In the sense that you can create any SPF entry you want... for your own domain. I could set one up with "+all" indicating that mail

Re: Whitelist collection project

2005-03-09 Thread Kelson
Chris Santerre wrote: Second, I believe SPF records can be spoofed Only to the extent that any DNS record can be spoofed. use in a disposibal manner. In the sense that you can create any SPF entry you want... for your own domain. I could set one up with "+all" indicating that mail sent via any s

Re: SPF problems with this list

2005-03-09 Thread Kelson
Steven Stern wrote: "v=spf1 a mx ptr include:earthlink.net ~all" I smarthost my mail through smtpauth.earthlink.net. The mail path then bounces around inside earthlink for a while. The "spf why" page says: hermes.apache.org saw a message coming from the IP address 209.86.89.61 which is smtpauth01.

Re: Whitelist collection project

2005-03-09 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Chris Santerre wrote: -Original Message- From: Daryl C. W. O'Shea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 11:04 AM To: Chris Santerre Cc: 'Robert Menschel'; users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Whitelist collection project How do you propose that whitelist_from_rcvd

RE: Whitelist collection project

2005-03-09 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: Daryl C. W. O'Shea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 11:04 AM >To: Chris Santerre >Cc: 'Robert Menschel'; users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Re: Whitelist collection project > > >Chris Santerre wrote: >> This might just be the first

RE: Windows with ESA - statistics?

2005-03-09 Thread Bowie Bailey
From: Tim P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I am using spamassasin on windows with the ESA message sync ( > http://www.christopherlewis.com/ExchangeSpamAssassin.htm ) and > would like to have some statistics so that I can better tune the > spam assassin (particularly with the minimum spam setting an

RE: URIBL_SBL Weirdness

2005-03-09 Thread Chris Santerre
> >> The SpamAssassin report lists it as : >> 0.6 URIBL_SBL Contains an URL listed in the SBL blocklist >> [URIs: gov.ru] > >> But no matter what I try, I can“t find the blacklist that Is used. > >What this means is that the nameserver for gov.ru is listed >in SBL. > > http://www

Re: URIBL_SBL Weirdness

2005-03-09 Thread Jeff Chan
On Wednesday, March 9, 2005, 7:50:13 AM, Rikhardur EGILSSON wrote: > Can anyone explain to me what the URIBL_SBL rule does (I.e. which list Is > used) RTFM? uridnsbl checks a URI domain's nameserver against sbl.spamhaus.org. > I have an email that this rule catches because of a email address ins

Re: Whitelist collection project

2005-03-09 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 08:08:36AM -0800, Jeff Chan wrote: > That should be safe, and we could probably still use them to > limited effect in SURBLs to keep those domains off SURBLs. It could also be used to generate default uridnsbl_skip_domain entries as well. ;) Including the domains in spams

Re: Whitelist collection project

2005-03-09 Thread Jeff Chan
On Wednesday, March 9, 2005, 8:03:49 AM, Daryl O'Shea wrote: > Chris Santerre wrote: >> This might just be the first time I disagree with you Bob ;) >> >> I don't see how this ruleset will not get abused. If I was a spammer I would >> make sure all my spam hit these rules to let me in. >> >> As

Windows with ESA - statistics?

2005-03-09 Thread Tim P
I am using spamassasin on windows with the ESA message sync ( http://www.christopherlewis.com/ExchangeSpamAssassin.htm ) and would like to have some statistics so that I can better tune the spam assassin (particularly with the minimum spam setting and the purge on discovery setting). As perl is al

Re: Whitelist collection project

2005-03-09 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Chris Santerre wrote: This might just be the first time I disagree with you Bob ;) I don't see how this ruleset will not get abused. If I was a spammer I would make sure all my spam hit these rules to let me in. As a research tool it is great! Already the SURBL whitelist is one of the best arou

Re: Whitelist collection project

2005-03-09 Thread Jeff Chan
On Wednesday, March 9, 2005, 7:30:20 AM, Chris Santerre wrote: > I don't see how this ruleset will not get abused. If I was a spammer I would > make sure all my spam hit these rules to let me in. > As a research tool it is great! Already the SURBL whitelist is one of the > best around thanks to J

URIBL_SBL Weirdness

2005-03-09 Thread Rikhardur.EGILSSON
Can anyone explain to me what the URIBL_SBL rule does (I.e. which list Is used) I have an email that this rule catches because of a email address inside it. The SpamAssassin report lists it as : 0.6 URIBL_SBL Contains an URL listed in the SBL blocklist [URIs: gov.ru] But no m

Re: a problem with linux 2.6.11 and sa

2005-03-09 Thread George Georgalis
On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 01:06:11PM +, Nix wrote: >> An interesting technique that allows a program (such as a log writer) >> to run as an unprivileged user, while receiving privileged data. (taken >> almost verbatim from Gerrit Pape's socklog) >> >> #!/bin/sh >> exec > exec 2>&1 >> exec softl

RE: Whitelist collection project

2005-03-09 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: Robert Menschel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 11:13 PM >To: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Whitelist collection project > > >OK, based on what little discussion there's been so far, here's a >draft proposal for people to think

Re: a problem with linux 2.6.11 and sa

2005-03-09 Thread Nix
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, George Georgalis announced authoritatively: > Here's what I'm doing that is broken. I use tcpserver (functionally > similar to inetd) to receive an incoming smtp connection. While the > smtp session is still open, the message is piped to a temp file which > is then scanned for s

SPF problems with this list

2005-03-09 Thread Steven Stern
My SPF record was working, but is now failing for this list. So, it seems that SPF checking has ratcheted up a notch. I've deleted my SPF txt record in order to send this. Anyhow... The record was "v=spf1 a mx ptr include:earthlink.net ~all" I smarthost my mail through smtpauth.earthlink.net. The

US_ASCII & 8BIT rule in airmax.cf

2005-03-09 Thread Philipp Snizek
Hi In the mailheader below there is (unless I'm blind) nowhere a trace of US-ASCII & 8Bit encoding. Nevertheless the airmax.cf ruleset has a hit for 2 points. Could somebody please enlighten me why the airmax.cf rule below still applies? Thank you Philipp 2.0 US_8BIT US-ASCII isn't an eight bit

Re: One single mailbox for all spam

2005-03-09 Thread Stephane Parenton
Kris Deugau wrote: Stephane Parenton wrote: A mail server, serving several domains : domain_a.com, domain_b.com, domain_c.com etc... for the moment, domain_a and domain_b are filtered, but if everything runs ok, all the domains should be filtered When a mail arrives, it's controled, scored,

Re: None of the Stock rules hitting

2005-03-09 Thread Martin Hepworth
John only a few in few hours (china daily ones) or so, but not yukon ones...here's my hit list for one I did catch.. (note I've bumoe my BAYES_99 score to the pre SA3.0 score!) 5.40BAYES_99Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100% 2.29BIZ_TLD Contains an URL in the BIZ top-level do

Re: Whitelist collection project

2005-03-09 Thread Jeff Chan
On Tuesday, March 8, 2005, 8:13:05 PM, Robert Menschel wrote: > OK, based on what little discussion there's been so far, here's a > draft proposal for people to think about. > Summary: A group of volunteers will maintain a collected/distributed > whitelist, using SpamAssassin's whitelist_from_rcvd

Re: Rule_Du_Jour.sh

2005-03-09 Thread Loren Wilton
> FI> Lint output: debug: SpamAssassin version 3.0.2 > FI> ... > FI> config: SpamAssassin failed to parse line, skipping: rewrite_subject 1 > FI> config: SpamAssassin failed to parse line, skipping: subject_tag *SPAM* > FI> [...etc...] > > You have --lint errors here that are probably in yo

Re: Whitelist collection project

2005-03-09 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Robert Menschel wrote: OK, based on what little discussion there's been so far, here's a draft proposal for people to think about. Summary: A group of volunteers will maintain a collected/distributed whitelist, using SpamAssassin's whitelist_from_rcvd capabilities, similar to (but in the opposite

Whitelist collection project

2005-03-09 Thread Robert Menschel
OK, based on what little discussion there's been so far, here's a draft proposal for people to think about. Summary: A group of volunteers will maintain a collected/distributed whitelist, using SpamAssassin's whitelist_from_rcvd capabilities, similar to (but in the opposite direction as) William S

Re: multiple hosts for spamc -d ?

2005-03-09 Thread Dave Goodrich
email builder wrote: All, Some postings a while back led me to believe that I could specify multiple hosts for the -d option of spamc. I understood that it would operate basically on a fallback basis (not load balancing). However, I can't seem to get spamc to use more than one of the -d listing

multiple hosts for spamc -d ?

2005-03-09 Thread email builder
All, Some postings a while back led me to believe that I could specify multiple hosts for the -d option of spamc. I understood that it would operate basically on a fallback basis (not load balancing). However, I can't seem to get spamc to use more than one of the -d listings. I've tried: /us

Re: sql-based global use_auto_whitelist error?

2005-03-09 Thread Matt Kettler
At 07:23 PM 3/8/2005, email builder wrote: I have a global setting in my SQL-based userprefs for use_auto_whitelist. I am noticing that spamd -D shows these messages about it, which confuse me: debug: retrieving prefs for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from SQL server debug: config: not parsing, administrator

sql-based global use_auto_whitelist error?

2005-03-09 Thread email builder
Hi, I have a global setting in my SQL-based userprefs for use_auto_whitelist. I am noticing that spamd -D shows these messages about it, which confuse me: debug: retrieving prefs for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from SQL server debug: config: not parsing, administrator setting: use_auto_whitelist 1 deb