RBL problem

2005-02-16 Thread Austin Weidner
What does this mean when I do spamassassin --lint -D? RBL: success for 0 of 1 queries That is with a default local.cf, nothing disabled. Does this have something to do with Net::DNS? This is a earlier on the debug output: debug: is Net::DNS::Resolver available? yes debug: Net::DNS version: 0.4

how to read sa-learn --dump output

2005-02-16 Thread KyleReynolds
Could someone help me determine what these fields represent? 0.001 0 48 1108391722 H*M:hpb 0.001 0 48 1108391722 H*M:hpbrm 0.001 0 55 1108391737 H*r:sk:PUBLIC. 0.001 0 56 1108391737 H*F:U*mthomason 0.001 0 57

how to read sa-learn --dump output

2005-02-16 Thread KyleReynolds
Could someone help me determine what these fields represent? 0.001 0 48 1108391722 H*M:hpb 0.001 0 48 1108391722 H*M:hpbrm 0.001 0 55 1108391737 H*r:sk:PUBLIC. 0.001 0 56 1108391737 H*F:U*mthomason 0.001 0 57

Re: Odd issue with a few mailing lists..

2005-02-16 Thread Evan Platt
At 02:53 PM 2/16/2005, you wrote: Note: I use Eudora. Unfortunately, this is a design "feature" of Eudora.. It always extracts attachments, and has to, as it does not support leaving them in the message mailbox. This has lead to numerous security exploits against eudora in the past. Since the at

Re: Odd issue with a few mailing lists..

2005-02-16 Thread Matt Kettler
At 05:35 PM 2/16/2005, Evan Platt wrote: I only seem to have this problem on this list and the mrtg lists... however a number of messages come with attachments. Looking at them, they appear to generally be PGP keys. Not a major issue, but now I have dozens of them (well, more). Not to pick on

Re: Wierd Problem identifying Spam

2005-02-16 Thread Daniel Draes
Some more ideas I have confixx installed, and my email is forwarded through a virtual user table. That means my account [EMAIL PROTECTED] will be forwarded to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does that actually mean the mail will be passed to postfix again (and therefor to SA as well??) That could be my p

Re: Odd issue with a few mailing lists..

2005-02-16 Thread Thomas Bolioli
They're S/MIME digital signatures. Eudora has a habit of automatically extracting (and severing) attachments and plopping them on the drive somewhere of the user's choosing, providing a link to it in the email. Most of us use clients that behave radically different. Eudora should probably not e

Odd issue with a few mailing lists..

2005-02-16 Thread Evan Platt
I only seem to have this problem on this list and the mrtg lists... however a number of messages come with attachments. Looking at them, they appear to generally be PGP keys. Not a major issue, but now I have dozens of them (well, more). Not to pick on people, but just in the last few days, I

RE: SA not modifying headers

2005-02-16 Thread Terry Poperszky
Based on Matt's email I went back and checked the date on the spamd executable and found that it was still the 2.64 version and was located in /usr/sbin. When I did the update/reinstall it was installing the spamd in the /usr/bin directory so that the old one was never being updated. Needless to sa

Re: Wierd Problem identifying Spam

2005-02-16 Thread Daniel Draes
Anyways, shouldn't SA be intelligent enough to scan mails only once by seeing the X-flags and stop further processing? Since the X-Spam-* headers can be forged, we ignore them. Thanks, I almost expected that. That leaves my problem back to - Why is SA scanning my mails twice even though p

Re: Wierd Problem identifying Spam

2005-02-16 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 11:21:53PM +0100, Daniel Draes wrote: > Anyways, shouldn't SA be intelligent enough to scan mails only once by > seeing the X-flags and stop further processing? Since the X-Spam-* headers can be forged, we ignore them. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Kluge.net belongs to

Re: surbl not reporting on any incoming email

2005-02-16 Thread Thomas Bolioli
Hence my problem. >>From my local.cf which is not overridden anywhere skip_rbl_checks 0 dns_available yes >>From etc/procmailrc SPAMC="/usr/bin/spamassassin" :0f |$SPAMC but the surbl checks only occur when I do spamassassin -t < file_w_msg and not when procmail does the forwarding. I am a

Re: Wierd Problem identifying Spam

2005-02-16 Thread Daniel Draes
Hi, nobody any more help here? I am glad to provide more details about my config if needed. Anyways, shouldn't SA be intelligent enough to scan mails only once by seeing the X-flags and stop further processing? Thx, Daniel Usually that means the message has been double-scanned.. First at the MTA

AWL interaction with Bayes, and sa-learn

2005-02-16 Thread Bart Schaefer
First, tell me if there's anything wrong with this summary: 1. A message arrives and is passed to spamassassin and/or spamc+spamd. 2. The score for that message is computed. 3. The AWL score for that sender is updated. 4. The message was mis-classified, so after delivery the user feeds the message

RE: SA not modifying headers

2005-02-16 Thread Terry Poperszky
Suggestions? I installed using perl -MCPAN -e shell, is there a way to remove the old and then reinstall the new? Terry -Original Message- From: Matt Kettler [mailto] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:38 PM To: Terry Poperszky; users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: SA not modifyi

Re: surbl not reporting on any incoming email

2005-02-16 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 04:50:52PM -0500, Thomas Bolioli wrote: > Is there any way to reverse -L --local for the spam assassin binary. It > seems to be on, despite the fact that I use a global procmailrc file and > it clearly has /usr/bin/spamassassin as the inary to exec without any > switches.

Re: can I delete a bayes token?

2005-02-16 Thread Matt Kettler
At 04:34 PM 2/16/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have a script that does some unattended spam learning from a designated spam box that our users report spam to. I ran a dump on the bayes db and I noticed some tokens that shouldn't be ranked so highly, so I started watching the spam box and it se

Re: surbl not reporting on any incoming email

2005-02-16 Thread Thomas Bolioli
Is there any way to reverse -L --local for the spam assassin binary. It seems to be on, despite the fact that I use a global procmailrc file and it clearly has /usr/bin/spamassassin as the inary to exec without any switches. Tom Theo Van Dinter wrote: On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 03:58:18PM -05

Re: SA not modifying headers

2005-02-16 Thread Matt Kettler
At 02:57 PM 2/16/2005, Terry Poperszky wrote: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 Feb 16 12:43:48 s2 spamd[29770]: connection from localhost [127.0.0.1] at port 39476 Feb 16 12:43:48 s2 spamd[5761]: info: setuid to aguerob succeeded Feb 16 12:43:48 s2 spamd[5761]: processing message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for aguer

can I delete a bayes token?

2005-02-16 Thread KyleReynolds
We have a script that does some unattended spam learning from a designated spam box that our users report spam to. I ran a dump on the bayes db and I noticed some tokens that shouldn't be ranked so highly, so I started watching the spam box and it seems that some users got "confused" and reported

Re: sa-learn does learn what exactly ?

2005-02-16 Thread Michael Parker
On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 10:23:11PM +0100, Philipp Snizek, seaan.net ag wrote: > > Mails I cannot tell for sure whether it's spam is delivered to a > quarantine inbox. Mostly, it is spam. Such stuff I would like to > forward per email to the mail gateway doing the antispam stuff. > Problem is that

Re: sa-learn does learn what exactly ?

2005-02-16 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Philipp Snizek, seaan.net ag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Mails I cannot tell for sure whether it's spam is delivered to a > quarantine inbox. Mostly, it is spam. Such stuff I would like to > forward per email to the mail gateway doing the antispam stuff. > Problem is that the original header gets los

RE: sa-learn does learn what exactly ?

2005-02-16 Thread Philipp Snizek, seaan.net ag
> > Is there a way how to feed SA with the body token only? This would > > really make my work a lot easier. > > > > Doesn't sound wise. What problem are you trying to solve? Mails I cannot tell for sure whether it's spam is delivered to a quarantine inbox. Mostly, it is spam. Such stuff I

Re: surbl not reporting on any incoming email

2005-02-16 Thread Thomas Bolioli
>>From the original email I used as seed for the test. Note, no surbl test hit. Tom X-Spam-Flag: YES X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on nova.terranovum.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=6.6 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_99,BIZ_TLD,    CONSOLIDATE_DEBT,G

spam ham ratio for bayes filter

2005-02-16 Thread Thomas Arend
Hello, a lot of questions in this list are about the spam : ham ratio to be trained and how much mails should be trained. One continuously read myth is the 1 : 1 ratio. I read an article about the best ratio as 1 : 1 and it was expirienced by a test and later on derived from the bayesian theo

Re: surbl not reporting on any incoming email

2005-02-16 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 03:58:18PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > New output. Notice it worked this time. But that same email does not show > the > surbl report. What do you mean "the surbl report"? The hits showed up in the Report you listed just fine (I added -MUNGED to avoid hitting other'

Re: surbl not reporting on any incoming email

2005-02-16 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 03:36:35PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The email I ran lint on had a domain in it. > > spamassassin --lint -D < /tmp/test_spam You can't do that. --lint does a lint. Perhaps you want -t for test? -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Look, Daddy, a whale egg!"

surbl not reporting on any incoming email

2005-02-16 Thread tpblists
I have SA 3.0.0 on Mandrake 10.1 and I am running everything through procmail and am not running spamd. I believe that is the default for 10.1. Anyhow, I am not seeing surbl reports in any of the spam I am receiving and I can't imagine that is normal. I checked the tests and they are indeed there.

Re: sendmail spamassassin milter

2005-02-16 Thread Andrzej Adam Filip
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been playing with getting clamav and spamassassin run from within sendmail and have had a great deal of luck on a fine RHEL box. First go-round, I set up procmail as the LDA, set up an /etc/procmail that ran spamassassin. Next, I used milter instructions to run spama

SA not modifying headers

2005-02-16 Thread Terry Poperszky
I just upgraded from 2.64, to 3.02 this morning. Spamd is running just fine, but it is not modifying the headers of the email at all. I find the following errors in my mail log. Can someone point me in the proper direction?     Terry   SuSe 9.1 Postfix 2.0.4 SpamAssassin 3.0.2    

sendmail spamassassin milter

2005-02-16 Thread dave
I've been playing with getting clamav and spamassassin run from within sendmail and have had a great deal of luck on a fine RHEL box. First go-round, I set up procmail as the LDA, set up an /etc/procmail that ran spamassassin. Next, I used milter instructions to run spamassassin within sendmail.

Re: sa-learn does learn what exactly ?

2005-02-16 Thread Michael Parker
On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 08:05:44PM +0100, Philipp Snizek, seaan.net ag wrote: > > Is there a way how to feed SA with the body token only? This would > really make my work a lot easier. > Doesn't sound wise. What problem are you trying to solve? Michael pgpnPFzYAMzjx.pgp Description: PGP sign

RE: sa-learn does learn what exactly ?

2005-02-16 Thread Philipp Snizek, seaan.net ag
> > SA 3.x uses the same tokens, but dumps them into SHA1, so > you just get > > numeric gibberish. You can't tell what the token is, but > you can tell > > if another token is the same. > > > > What do you mean you can't tell what the token is? I can. > > Guess it just takes practice :)

Re: sa-learn does learn what exactly ?

2005-02-16 Thread Michael Parker
On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 01:22:12PM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote: > > SA 3.x uses the same tokens, but dumps them into SHA1, so you just get > numeric gibberish. You can't tell what the token is, but you can tell if > another token is the same. > What do you mean you can't tell what the token is?

Re: How Can I find out what SA is doing?

2005-02-16 Thread Matt Kettler
At 04:44 AM 2/16/2005, Chris Withers wrote: > Really, all you need to do is make sure Net::DNS is installed.. How'd I do that? it's a perl module, install it from a package or with cpan. And how do I test this is working as you expect once I've done what you suggest? spamassassin --lint -D Look fo

Re: sa-learn does learn what exactly ?

2005-02-16 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:01 PM 2/16/2005, Philipp Snizek, seaan.net ag wrote: I use SpamAssassin for a while now and must say it really is an extremely fine piece of software. I have a question about sa-learn. I run SA on a mail gateway. I intend to write a shell script that enables me to send an email to the mail ga

Re: sa-learn does learn what exactly ?

2005-02-16 Thread jdow
From: "Philipp Snizek, seaan.net ag" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi I use SpamAssassin for a while now and must say it really is an extremely fine piece of software. I have a question about sa-learn. I run SA on a mail gateway. I intend to write a shell script that enables me to send an email to the mai

sa-learn does learn what exactly ?

2005-02-16 Thread Philipp Snizek, seaan.net ag
Hi I use SpamAssassin for a while now and must say it really is an extremely fine piece of software. I have a question about sa-learn. I run SA on a mail gateway. I intend to write a shell script that enables me to send an email to the mail gateway with a command, e.g. 'learn' and the text of the

Re: salearn parsing error

2005-02-16 Thread Daniel Cañas
On Feb 5, 2005, at 2:58 PM, Rich wrote: On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:47:25 -0500 (EST), Rich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Am Montag, 20. Dezember 2004 14:36 schrieb Rich: Some messages trigger the following error: Parsing of undecoded UTF-8 will give garbage when decoding entities at /usr/local/lib/per

Re: Care and feeding instructions for SpamAssassin?

2005-02-16 Thread Kris Deugau
FH wrote: > It was less than 1/2 hour because I was experimenting w/ the commands > and the new email came in so I decided to use that one ;) > > Initial email: > X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_99 autolearn=no > version=3.0.2 > > After running it through the spamassassi

RE: Thanks - Re: Less spam blocked with 3.02 - AWL-related?

2005-02-16 Thread Chris Santerre
>My next step would be to write something that would analyse my logs to >see exactly what the rules are doing - and to try razor. Here ya go! Ninja D is da man! :) >I just whipped up a quick maillog parser display top rules firing in >3.0. It reads all maillog* files and generates top firin

Re: Re[4]: Care and feeding instructions for SpamAssassin?

2005-02-16 Thread FH
-- Original Message -- Received: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:31:49 AM EST From: Robert Menschel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: FH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re[4]: Care and feeding instructions for SpamAssassin? > >> Next time you get one of those spam that sneaks throu

Re: Doesn't work with non local accounts

2005-02-16 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:38 AM 2/16/2005, Andrew Afliatunov wrote: But how spamd will know what ldap server to contact? Well clearly this has *nothing* to do with the --setuid-with-ldap parameter. --setuid-with-ldap can't tell SA what ldap server to use. Note: you still probably want to pass -x and --ldap-config b

Re: [SARE] header rules updated

2005-02-16 Thread George Georgalis
Hi, On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 09:03:14PM -0800, Robert Menschel wrote: >GG> Lint output: warning: score set for non-existent rule SARE_MSGID_IP >GG> warning: score set for non-existent rule SARE_TOCC_NONE >GG> lint: 2 issues detected. please rerun with debug enabled for more >information. > >GG>

Re: Time for my monthly beating again...

2005-02-16 Thread Kevin Peuhkurinen
Hey Joe. My 2.64 install is running so well, I almost don't want to upgrade to 3.0.2, and I really don't need to spend too much time on it to keep it that way. Perhaps you just need to devote a couple of days to do some tweaking and thereafter it should run well on its own. Finding out w

Re: Doesn't work with non local accounts

2005-02-16 Thread Andrew Afliatunov
Matt Kettler wrote: At 02:12 AM 2/15/2005, Andrew Afliatunov wrote: I use spamassassin-3.01 in site-wide mode (spamd+spamc) on Linux Slackware-9.1 mail server. Everything worked just fine - about 300 spam-letters dayly was filtered. But then I made system to look up mail-users in ldap database.

Re: Time for my monthly beating again...

2005-02-16 Thread Martin Hepworth
Joe ahh well thenthe additional rules from www.rulemporium.com (not bigevil.cf) will help alot. as will the URI-RBL extras from www.surbl.org (see http://sourceforge.net/projects/spamcopuri/ for a 2.64 patch to enable this). -- Martin Hepworth Snr Systems Administrator Solid State Logic Te

Re: Time for my monthly beating again...

2005-02-16 Thread Joe Flowers
Interesting Chris...thanks for the feedback...at least maybe I'm still on the planet somewhere.. My "monthly" word means that I've been feeling too good about myself lately, so I'm due for a slap-down on how dumb I am. J Chr. von Stuckrad wrote: On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 08:26:43AM -0500, Joe Flo

Re: Time for my monthly beating again...

2005-02-16 Thread Joe Flowers
2.64 currently...I'm hoping to move to 3.0x soon...after I see how this experiment goes. It's just a plain-jane out-of-the-box install, nothing special, except maybe I'm doing AWL checks too, which I've seen from the list can cause some headaches from its use or misuse. Although, I have run this

Re: Time for my monthly beating again...

2005-02-16 Thread Chr. von Stuckrad
On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 08:26:43AM -0500, Joe Flowers wrote: > For us, SA *seems* to score SPAM messages with lower and lower hit > scores as time goes by, and the users get more and more glassy-eyed over > it's ("my" if you prefer) effectiveness as time goes by too. OH, interesting, I think I h

Re: Time for my monthly beating again...

2005-02-16 Thread Martin Hepworth
Joe what SA version and what extra rules? Using the URI-RBL's? -- Martin Hepworth Snr Systems Administrator Solid State Logic Tel: +44 (0)1865 842300 Joe Flowers wrote: Later today I'll be implementing a "drifting" spam/ham dividing line (one "line" for the entire system - not individually set per

Time for my monthly beating again...

2005-02-16 Thread Joe Flowers
Later today I'll be implementing a "drifting" spam/ham dividing line (one "line" for the entire system - not individually set per email account) to see how effective it is or how effective it appears to be. I'm curious to know if the dividing line will drift into a wall on some self-imposed bou

Re: How Can I find out what SA is doing?

2005-02-16 Thread Martin Hepworth
Chris S May I suggest. do a change - make sure the comment that gets displays by the RDJ says this rule will be deleted in a week. after a week take it off the rulesemporium siteall the RDJ will 404 on it.. just a thought. -- Martin Hepworth Snr Systems Administrator Solid State Logic Tel:

Re: How Can I find out what SA is doing?

2005-02-16 Thread Chris Withers
Matt Kettler wrote: Can you explain how I make that switch or refer me to any relevent docs? Really, all you need to do is make sure Net::DNS is installed.. How'd I do that? And how do I test this is working as you expect once I've done what you suggest? Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management,

Re: URIDNSBL error

2005-02-16 Thread Jeff Chan
On Tuesday, February 15, 2005, 10:45:47 AM, Justin Mason wrote: > Austin Weidner writes: >> Why am I getting around 20 lines of this in a spamassassin --lint -D: >> >> debug: plugin: Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL=HASH(0xa89414c) >> inhibited further callbacks >> >> What is URIDNSBL and wh

Thanks - Re: Less spam blocked with 3.02 - AWL-related?

2005-02-16 Thread Johann Spies
Thanks to everybody who responded to my email. I have learnt a lot, added a few filters, removed some and removed the awl-option. > Average spam blocked per minute for the last > > Day WeekMonth Year (Since April-June last year) > mail1 5.946.217.678.20 > mail2

Re[4]: Care and feeding instructions for SpamAssassin?

2005-02-16 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello FH, Tuesday, February 15, 2005, 3:40:43 PM, you wrote: >> Next time you get one of those spam that sneaks through, run >> > spamassassin -D output 2>debug.out F> There must be a disconnect somewhere. I just did this w/ a "drugs F> online" spam I just received. When it first came in it had

Re: Re[2]: [SARE] header rules updated

2005-02-16 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Menschel writes: > Hello George, > > Tuesday, February 15, 2005, 7:29:07 PM, you wrote: > > GG> On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 02:26:02PM -0800, Robert Menschel wrote: > >>Just a quick note that SARE's header rules files have been updated. > >>Infor

Re[2]: [SARE] header rules updated

2005-02-16 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello George, Tuesday, February 15, 2005, 7:29:07 PM, you wrote: GG> On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 02:26:02PM -0800, Robert Menschel wrote: >>Just a quick note that SARE's header rules files have been updated. >>Information concerning these rules files can be found at >>http://www.rulesemporium.com/rul

bayes_ignore_header help

2005-02-16 Thread Charles H . Shooshan III
Hi! We've just successfully setup SA 3.0.2 on our Apple X Serve 10.3.8, using postfix, procmail, and Squirrelmail. I have trained the Bayes with some spam archives and I would like our users to send mail to a specific mailbox for training. For certain specific users, I have had them add IsSpam

Re: [SARE] header rules updated

2005-02-16 Thread George Georgalis
On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 02:26:02PM -0800, Robert Menschel wrote: >Just a quick note that SARE's header rules files have been updated. > >Information concerning these rules files can be found at >http://www.rulesemporium.com/rules.htm#header > BTW - know anything about SARE_MSGID_IP and SARE_TOCC_N

Re: Good idea or bad idea?

2005-02-16 Thread Jim Maul
> > > Chris Santerre wrote: The 1:1 ratio is a mistake based on a wrong interpretation of >>> >>>the bayes=20 >>> theorem. I have a ham : spam ratio of 1 : 40. >>> >> Also: >> "I thing bayes is a very good addition to individual rules. And when >> it's >> trained propper it works fine. " >>

Re: Re: Clustered MySQL with SA

2005-02-16 Thread Nigel Frankcom
Cool link and many thanks, but the issue for me is how to keep the sa db's synched. afaik the tokens etc are unique - so how to get those to balance? 'Course, it could be I'm being entirely dense (not a 1st) :-D Nigel On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 17:41:16 -0600, Michael Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: