Re: maybe OT mail being rejected.

2005-02-11 Thread Matt Kettler
At 03:50 PM 2/11/2005, ChupaCabra wrote: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: host mail.americanadvisor.net[199.231.136.136] said: 501 5.7.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Sender refused by the DNSBL cbl.abuseat.org (in reply to MAIL FROM command) Does this mean I am on some kind of bad list? I am choiceinv If I

Re: diferent rules hitting with diferent users

2005-02-11 Thread Matías López Bergero
Robert Menschel wrote: Hello Matías, Friday, February 11, 2005, 8:48:18 AM, you wrote: MLB> I just got a spam message in my inbox without being flagged by SA, and I MLB> find it very curios because it was a clear spam message. Wen I examine MLB> the headers to see the score assigned by SA I get mor

Re: maybe OT mail being rejected.

2005-02-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This means that the server you are sending through: americanadvisor.net is listed. If that's your sever then contact the blacklist, if it is someone you pay, contact them! > From: ChupaCabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 14:50:18 -0600 > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject

Re: diferent rules hitting with diferent users

2005-02-11 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Matías, Friday, February 11, 2005, 8:48:18 AM, you wrote: MLB> I just got a spam message in my inbox without being flagged by SA, and I MLB> find it very curios because it was a clear spam message. Wen I examine MLB> the headers to see the score assigned by SA I get more surprised MLB>

maybe OT mail being rejected.

2005-02-11 Thread ChupaCabra
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: host mail.americanadvisor.net[199.231.136.136] said: 501 5.7.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Sender refused by the DNSBL cbl.abuseat.org (in reply to MAIL FROM command) Does this mean I am on some kind of bad list? I am choiceinv If I am on some list how do I get off. We rece

Re[2]: question about bayes and awl.

2005-02-11 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Matías, Friday, February 11, 2005, 10:29:13 AM, you wrote: >> It sounds to me like you're training a central Bayes database, while >> the users are using their individual databases. >> >> Individual databases are better (non-spam to the business department >> may look like spam to the bio-

Re: Humor: "The Ultimate Spam Email"

2005-02-11 Thread Matias Lopez Bergero
good scoring here... Content analysis details: (10.2 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description -- -- 0.0 RCVD_BY_IP Received by mail server with no name 0.0 URG_BIZ

Re: bayesian filter training

2005-02-11 Thread Matias Lopez Bergero
Matt Kettler wrote: At 05:06 PM 2/10/2005, Matias Lopez Bergero wrote: It is worth to train the bayes filter with messages already detected and flagged as spam by spamassassin? That would do any good? Yes. And even if they are already flagged as BAYES_99 it is still worthwhile. Many thanks for th

Re: diferent rules hitting with diferent users

2005-02-11 Thread Matías López Bergero
Matt Kettler wrote: At 11:48 AM 2/11/2005, Matías López Bergero wrote: I copy the message a feed SA with it X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_99,HTML_80_90, HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_08,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_QP_LONG_LINE autolearn=no version=3.0.2 OK, here it

Re[2]: bayesian filter training

2005-02-11 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Peter, Friday, February 11, 2005, 4:17:33 AM, you wrote: PM> but would that not mean that the bayes filter will learn the headers PM> that spam assassin adds as spam .. and then after a while only start PM> classing mail that already has the spam headers as bayes_99 ? No, since the sa-lear

Re: diferent rules hitting with diferent users

2005-02-11 Thread Matt Kettler
At 11:48 AM 2/11/2005, Matías López Bergero wrote: I copy the message a feed SA with it X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_99,HTML_80_90, HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_08,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_QP_LONG_LINE autolearn=no version=3.0.2 OK, here it hit the rules that i

RE: [SpamAssassin Wiki] Updated: ContributingNewRules

2005-02-11 Thread Chris Santerre
> > >what's up with this -- is the www.exit0.us wiki out of date, or >something? Why's AltGrendel deleting all the links to it? > >- --j. not sure. It was taken down because he had changed positions but he found another host. I'll try to email him. --Chris

Re: spamassassin finding LDAP servers??

2005-02-11 Thread Jeremy Rumpf
On Wednesday 09 February 2005 12:41, Michael Parker wrote: > On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 11:35:32AM -0600, Jeff Gibson wrote: > > Hi. I'm running spamassassin 3.0.0 on a Redhat ES 3 box. Postfix 2.1.5 > > is calling spamassassin. The server itself does user account lookups > > though an LDAP server.

Re: bayesian filter training

2005-02-11 Thread Thomas Arend
Am Freitag, 11. Februar 2005 17:58 schrieb Matt Kettler: > At 11:15 AM 2/11/2005, Matías López Bergero wrote: > >The sa-learn man page says that for a good training of the Bayesian > >filter, you need to train it with equal amounts of spam and ham, or more > >ham if is possible. So if I sa-learn th

Re: question about bayes and awl.

2005-02-11 Thread Thomas Arend
Am Donnerstag, 10. Februar 2005 19:29 schrieb Matias Lopez Bergero: > Hi, > > I'm relatively new using SA and I have a couple of doubts about the > bayes db and the awl db. > I'm running a 3.0.2 site wide install, and I have saw that for each user > there is an .spamassassin directory, storing Baye

Re: question about bayes and awl.

2005-02-11 Thread Matías López Bergero
Robert Menschel wrote: Hello Matias, Thursday, February 10, 2005, 10:29:08 AM, you wrote: MLB> The bayes and awl db are working only for the user who owns them right? MLB> What about the bayes data created with the sa-learn command? MLB> I'm being training spamassassin Bayesian filter since the ins

Re: bayesian filter training

2005-02-11 Thread Matías López Bergero
Matt Kettler wrote: At 11:15 AM 2/11/2005, Matías López Bergero wrote: The sa-learn man page says that for a good training of the Bayesian filter, you need to train it with equal amounts of spam and ham, or more ham if is possible. So if I sa-learn the spam folder, the spam tokens are going to grow

Re: [SpamAssassin Wiki] Updated: ContributingNewRules

2005-02-11 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 what's up with this -- is the www.exit0.us wiki out of date, or something? Why's AltGrendel deleting all the links to it? - --j. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Date: 2005-02-11T08:29:44 >Editor: AltGrendel >Wiki: SpamAssassin Wiki >Pag

Re: bayesian filter training

2005-02-11 Thread Matt Kettler
At 11:15 AM 2/11/2005, Matías López Bergero wrote: The sa-learn man page says that for a good training of the Bayesian filter, you need to train it with equal amounts of spam and ham, or more ham if is possible. So if I sa-learn the spam folder, the spam tokens are going to grow a lot compared to h

Re: Care and feeding instructions for SpamAssassin?

2005-02-11 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello FH, Thursday, February 10, 2005, 11:48:37 AM, you wrote: F> Hopefully this isn't a FAQ, I looked over the list on the website and F> while there is some useful info there I didn't see answers to all my F> questions (or maybe I just didn't realize they were answered as this is F> all new to

Re: bayesian filter training

2005-02-11 Thread Matt Kettler
At 07:17 AM 2/11/2005, Peter Marshall wrote: but would that not mean that the bayes filter will learn the headers that spam assassin adds as spam .. and then after a while only start classing mail that already has the spam headers as bayes_99 ? I really do not know, I am just asking. Erm.. no. B

diferent rules hitting with diferent users

2005-02-11 Thread Matías López Bergero
Hi, I just got a spam message in my inbox without being flagged by SA, and I find it very curios because it was a clear spam message. Wen I examine the headers to see the score assigned by SA I get more surprised Content analysis details: (0.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name

Re: question about bayes and awl.

2005-02-11 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Matias, Thursday, February 10, 2005, 10:29:08 AM, you wrote: MLB> Hi, MLB> I'm relatively new using SA and I have a couple of doubts about the MLB> bayes db and the awl db. MLB> I'm running a 3.0.2 site wide install, and I have saw that for each user MLB> there is an .spamassassin director

Re: bayesian filter training

2005-02-11 Thread Matías López Bergero
Matt Kettler wrote: At 05:06 PM 2/10/2005, Matias Lopez Bergero wrote: It is worth to train the bayes filter with messages already detected and flagged as spam by spamassassin? That would do any good? Yes. And even if they are already flagged as BAYES_99 it is still worthwhile. Many thanks for th

RE: Humor: "The Ultimate Spam Email"

2005-02-11 Thread Sander Holthaus - Orange XL
> > > >Scores pretty well (14.3, 9.0 required), though, I heard that > >SpamAssassin > >3+ included the SARE_FRAUD rules (or similiar). But looking at > >the report, I > >don't see any fraud-hits from SpamAssassin :-/ > > > >Would it be wise to re-add SARE_FRAUD as a extra ruleset to > >SpamAssa

RE: Less spam blocked with 3.02 - AWL-related?

2005-02-11 Thread Chris Santerre
> >> > 4) Can you share the output from a --lint with us? >> $ spamassassin --lint >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ > >What about spamassassin -D --lint? > >Kind Regards, >Sander Holthaus LOL, yeah I need to start typing exactly what I mean :) Can we get the output from the "spamassassin -D --lint" ple

RE: Humor: "The Ultimate Spam Email"

2005-02-11 Thread Chris Santerre
> >Scores pretty well (14.3, 9.0 required), though, I heard that >SpamAssassin >3+ included the SARE_FRAUD rules (or similiar). But looking at >the report, I >don't see any fraud-hits from SpamAssassin :-/ > >Would it be wise to re-add SARE_FRAUD as a extra ruleset to >SpamAssassin? > >Kind Re

Re: mx records

2005-02-11 Thread Alex Pleiner
* zaine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-02-11 15:34]: > Hi, > I have setup spamassassin , and the problem that I am having is that the > check_mx is 2, and for some or other reason mails are'nt being checked. > Is there any suggestions ? Zaine, your problem isn't related with SpamAssassin? Please t

mx records

2005-02-11 Thread zaine
Hi, I have setup spamassassin , and the problem that I am having is that the check_mx is 2, and for some or other reason mails are'nt being checked. Is there any suggestions ? Regards Zaine

ASCII chars spelling spam

2005-02-11 Thread John Fleming
I got one I hadn't seen before - It used characters like _-/\ to spell out the v-word and other drugs in giant letters on the screen. It looks like learning should help. Tnx X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,HTML_80_90, HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_QP_LONG_LINE,MPART_

RE: bayesian filter training

2005-02-11 Thread Sander Holthaus - Orange XL
> but would that not mean that the bayes filter will learn the > headers that spam assassin adds as spam .. and then after a > while only start classing mail that already has the spam > headers as bayes_99 ? You can set bayes to ignore certain header. See the documentation for more info. I wou

RE: Humor: "The Ultimate Spam Email"

2005-02-11 Thread Sander Holthaus - Orange XL
> -Original Message- > From: Thomas Arend [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 1:41 PM > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: Humor: "The Ultimate Spam Email" > > Am Donnerstag, 10. Februar 2005 22:46 schrieb Jim Maul: > > Mike Jackson wrote: > > >> http

Re: bayesian filter training

2005-02-11 Thread Peter Marshall
Jason, I accidently deleted your reply before I could read it ... would you mind re-sending it ... my apologies ... Peter Matt Kettler wrote: At 05:06 PM 2/10/2005, Matias Lopez Bergero wrote: Just a question, It is worth to train the bayes filter with messages already detected and flagged as sp

Re: bayesian filter training

2005-02-11 Thread Thomas Arend
Am Freitag, 11. Februar 2005 13:17 schrieb Peter Marshall: > but would that not mean that the bayes filter will learn the headers > that spam assassin adds as spam .. and then after a while only start > classing mail that already has the spam headers as bayes_99 ? > > I really do not know, I am jus

Re: Humor: "The Ultimate Spam Email"

2005-02-11 Thread Thomas Arend
Am Donnerstag, 10. Februar 2005 22:46 schrieb Jim Maul: > Mike Jackson wrote: > >> http://lowendmac.com/lite/05/0210.html > > > > I sent it to myself... > > > > X-Spam-Report: > > * 1.8 URG_BIZ BODY: Contains urgent matter > > * 0.7 SARE_MONEYTERMS BODY: Talks about money in some way. > > * 0.7

Re: bayesian filter training

2005-02-11 Thread Thomas Arend
Am Freitag, 11. Februar 2005 08:14 schrieb Sharma, Ravi: > Its require when you rebuild the database. That's not true. See the message from Matt. Bayes is a statistical methode so the best way is to train all spam and ham. But you should not train it on messages you whitelist for example with

Re: bayesian filter training

2005-02-11 Thread Peter Marshall
but would that not mean that the bayes filter will learn the headers that spam assassin adds as spam .. and then after a while only start classing mail that already has the spam headers as bayes_99 ? I really do not know, I am just asking. Peter Matt Kettler wrote: At 05:06 PM 2/10/2005, Matias

Re: lots of messages in maillogs at SA 3.0

2005-02-11 Thread Matt Kettler
At 02:05 AM 2/11/2005, Monty Ree wrote: I have upgraded SA 3.0.2 at linux+sendmail. after that, I have found that so lots of messages at /var/log/maillog like below. AFAIK, these messages are useless for me and thess eat some resources like CPU, HDD..etc.. . So is there any method to disable thes

RE: Less spam blocked with 3.02 - AWL-related?

2005-02-11 Thread Sander Holthaus - Orange XL
> > 4) Can you share the output from a --lint with us? > $ spamassassin --lint > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ What about spamassassin -D --lint? Kind Regards, Sander Holthaus

Re: valentine spam from my own provider?

2005-02-11 Thread Kevin Peuhkurinen
The message ID shows that this email originated from "flonetwork.com".Flonetwork is owned by Doubleclick. Need I say more? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I just received the spam below. T-online.de, a spinoff of former state telekom, is one of the major providers in germany for private inter

Re: Less spam blocked with 3.02 - AWL-related?

2005-02-11 Thread Matt Kettler
At 06:41 AM 2/11/2005, Matt Kettler wrote: What follows test should be a series of domain names to test the servers in resolv.conf by querying the MX record for the domain. This should, theoretically, not be one of your local domains if you want the test to be a complete test of your servers. At

Re: Less spam blocked with 3.02 - AWL-related?

2005-02-11 Thread Matt Kettler
At 03:14 AM 2/11/2005, Johann Spies wrote: dns_available test: localhost 146.232.128.10 146.232.128.1 erm What are you trying to accomplish with the above? The "test" option should not be followed by a list of nameservers to query. SA will end up inheriting that information from resolv.conf.

Re: Less spam blocked with 3.02 - AWL-related?

2005-02-11 Thread Johann Spies
On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 10:57:20AM -0500, Chris Santerre wrote: > > 1) Nice rulesets ;) > 2) Please tell me you are using net-tests. SURBL? (might want to increase > those scores.) Yes, I am using them and they appear regularly in the logs. skip_rbl_checks 0 dns_available test: localhost 146.23

RE: bayesian filter training

2005-02-11 Thread Sharma, Ravi
Its require when you rebuild the database. Ravi -Original Message- From: Matias Lopez Bergero [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 3:36 AM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: bayesian filter training Hi Just a question, It is worth to train the bayes filter w

lots of messages in maillogs at SA 3.0

2005-02-11 Thread Monty Ree
Hello, all. I have upgraded SA 3.0.2 at linux+sendmail. after that, I have found that so lots of messages at /var/log/maillog like below. AFAIK, these messages are useless for me and thess eat some resources like CPU, HDD..etc.. . So is there any method to disable these messages? Thanks in advan