Idea for better scoring

2004-11-15 Thread Tom McClure
I run a small ISP and have installed SpamAssassin to stop spam. It catches a lot of spam. It's especially good at filtering out the worst, most offensive mail, but a good deal of spam still gets through the filter, even after a user's bayes db gets big enough to start adding the bayes tests.

Re: spamassassin time outs

2004-11-15 Thread Matt Kettler
At 05:54 PM 11/15/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are running SA 3.01 and the latest MailScanner. Besides the delivered SA rule sets, we have the following: It's most likely due to bayes expiry. Requoting a past post of mine on the subject: --

[Fwd: problems with CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER rule being triggered]

2004-11-15 Thread alan premselaar
[resending] Hi, It's been awhile since i've participated on the list. I've just attempted to scour the entire net trying to find some information on this, but I Haven't found anything. I've just installed SpamAssassin 3.01 in conjunction with MIMEDefang 2.48 on a redhat enterprise server 3.0 mach

Spamassassin 3.0.1 Child Process Memory Usage

2004-11-15 Thread Mark Teel
Hello, I recently installed version 3.0.1 - here are my particulars: qmail-scanner 1.24 FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE i386 spamd invoked with: -H -c -d -m 3 -r My question is this: why do the child perl processes as displayed by "ps ux" continually increase their memory usage? I am using the default rule

spamassassin time outs

2004-11-15 Thread Donald . Dawson
Title: spamassassin time outs We are running SA 3.01 and the latest MailScanner.  Besides the delivered SA rule sets, we have the following: r--r--r--    1    31854 May 31 19:24 70_sare_adult.cf -r--r--r--    1 3927 Apr 24  2004 70_sare_bayes_poison_nxm.cf -r--r--r--    1   211390 Oct  3

RE: Score 9.9 by configuration?

2004-11-15 Thread Dan Barker
Hold on there. SQL does NOT return stuff in "no particular order". SQL returns stuff in the order you request it be returned. If you don't bother to request an order, then I guess your statement stands, but the DBA needs a spanking for crafting a query that doesn't specify any necessary parameter

WrongMX Plugin

2004-11-15 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Good afternoon, For those interested, I've uploaded to the Wiki, and attached for your convenience, a plugin to detect when an email was sent to a secondary or lower preference MX server when a higher preference MX server was likely to have been available (the message was passed to the higher pr

Re: Score 9.9 by configuration?

2004-11-15 Thread hamann . w
>> >> > You could zero out the rules u don't wish to use, so they wont trigger >> > further false positives, in your .spamassassin/user_prefs file assuming you >> > have one in your home directory. >> >> This were perfect if it were not unsafe. >> Doesn't ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs require allow_

Re: SpamAssassin running slow

2004-11-15 Thread Matt Kettler
At 04:52 PM 11/15/2004, Paul Crittenden wrote: I'm running SpamAssassin 3.0.1 on a Compaq Alpha running Tru64-Unix, sendmail 8.12.10. I have been running SA for about 6 - 8 months on a few test accounts with great success. I tried to set it up so it would filter all of my system email for about

RE: SA 3.01 + DCC + Pyzor

2004-11-15 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Johan Barelds wrote: > I *know* that dcc isn't broken. > It only doesn't work when called from SA. > In my case it isn't occasional: > -- > Nov 15 16:39:49 beast dccproc[1791]: missing message body; fatal error > -- > I happens not-stop. > It looks to me that SA doesn't send the message body to dcc

SpamAssassin running slow

2004-11-15 Thread Paul Crittenden
I'm running SpamAssassin 3.0.1 on a Compaq Alpha running Tru64-Unix, sendmail 8.12.10. I have been running SA for about 6 - 8 months on a few test accounts with great success. I tried to set it up so it would filter all of my system email for about 2500 accounts. When I set it up email in the q

Re: Score 9.9 by configuration?

2004-11-15 Thread Hanspeter Roth
On Nov 15 at 14:27, Dan Barker spoke: > Don't remember if you need to do this by user or not. But, if you put the > zeros in local.cf, it will do the same thing, but for everybody. local.cf is probably not located in ~/.spamassassin, is it? But I was told SA is running on a separate box anyway.

RE: Score 9.9 by configuration?

2004-11-15 Thread Dan Barker
Don't remember if you need to do this by user or not. But, if you put the zeros in local.cf, it will do the same thing, but for everybody. Dan -Original Message- From: Hanspeter Roth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 2:23 PM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subjec

Re: Score 9.9 by configuration?

2004-11-15 Thread Hanspeter Roth
On Nov 15 at 16:57, Martin spoke: > You could zero out the rules u don't wish to use, so they wont trigger > further false positives, in your .spamassassin/user_prefs file assuming you > have one in your home directory. This were perfect if it were not unsafe. Doesn't ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs

Re: Spam with ``=?utf-8?q?'' in From/To/Subject

2004-11-15 Thread Dave Sill
Excellent, thanks everyone. The :raw did the trick. I'm upgrading to 3.0, too. -Dave

Re: SA 3.01 + DCC + Pyzor

2004-11-15 Thread Johan Barelds
Op maandag 15 november 2004 16:07, schreef D.J. Fan: > I get "missing message body; fatal error" on occasion. It is > my guess this means there is no text in the body of the message. > I don't think it means DCC is broken. I *know* that dcc isn't broken. It only doesn't work when called from SA. I

RE: Score 9.9 by configuration?

2004-11-15 Thread Martin
|-Original Message- |From: Hanspeter Roth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 15 November 2004 16:13 |To: users@spamassassin.apache.org |Subject: Re: Score 9.9 by configuration? | | On Nov 15 at 08:38, Matt Kettler spoke: | |> If you took away the 15 FVGT_TRIPWIRE_* hits the score of |the m

Recognising foreign charactersets?

2004-11-15 Thread robert
Hi, Does anybody know if SA can be trained to recognise and deal with mail as spam based on the characterset it's using? ie. lately I've been getting a lot of chinese (big5) that is spam. I've added checks myself but I'd like to know if SA is capable of this or not. --

Re: Score 9.9 by configuration?

2004-11-15 Thread Hanspeter Roth
On Nov 15 at 08:38, Matt Kettler spoke: > If you took away the 15 FVGT_TRIPWIRE_* hits the score of the message would > have gone down by about 10.5 points. I'm trying to advise the admin. But I don't know his plans... > Find the duplicates and remove them. My guess is the server has both >

Re: Spam with ``=?utf-8?q?'' in From/To/Subject

2004-11-15 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:19 AM 11/15/2004, Dave Sill wrote: From: =?utf-8?q?Hubert Lfa?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: =?utf-8?q?Eustace Oiw?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: =?utf-8?q?Economize 65 % or mo?= =?utf-8?q?re on our prescript?= =?utf-8?q?ions?= I tried adding rules (SA 2.63) to match "utf-8" in these fields, but

Re: Spam with ``=?utf-8?q?'' in From/To/Subject

2004-11-15 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 09:19:08AM -0500, Dave Sill wrote: > rules. There's no "rawheader" tag, and "full" seems to only include > the body. Actually, there is a raw header specification: header RULE Subject:raw =~ /.../ and yes, "full" will only do the body since it's short for "full body". ;)

RE: Spam with ``=?utf-8?q?'' in From/To/Subject

2004-11-15 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: Dave Sill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 9:19 AM >To: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Spam with ``=?utf-8?q?'' in From/To/Subject > > >I'm getting lots of messages with UTF-8 encoding specified in the >header, e.g.: > >From: =

RE: Message is checked but not marked

2004-11-15 Thread Smart,Dan
Vickie: I've had the same problem. It has to do with procmail and the -t 60. The spamc -t 60 doesn't actually kill the spamd process, it simply cuts the connection between spamc and spamd. The normal action of procmail and spamc is to deliver if there is a spamc error. This has to be turned off b

SA 3.01 + DCC + Pyzor

2004-11-15 Thread D.J. Fan
I noticed that DCC and Pyzor are broken if beeing called from SA. (Nov 14 17:00:07 beast dccproc[4795]: missing message body; fatal error) I get "missing message body; fatal error" on occasion. It is my guess this means there is no text in the body of the message. I don't think it means DCC is brok

RE: spamassassin and web based mail !

2004-11-15 Thread Martin Lee
"Spammers don't go to Cybercafés to send spam." Oh yes they do ! We see lots of phishing and 419 / lottery scams coming from Cybercafes. The average spammer likes to work from home, the average scammer likes the anonymity of Cybercafes. Cigan - you have a very difficult problem. If you scan con

Re[2]: Score 9.9 by configuration?

2004-11-15 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Hanspeter, Monday, November 15, 2004, 3:55:01 AM, you wrote: HR> On Nov 14 at 21:28, Matt Kettler spoke: >> Defintiely custom. >> >> FVGT_TRIPWIRE_* are add-on rules, and are not a part of the standard SA set. >> TW_* are also add-on rules. In fact, I suspect they are a duplicate of the

Spam with ``=?utf-8?q?'' in From/To/Subject

2004-11-15 Thread Dave Sill
I'm getting lots of messages with UTF-8 encoding specified in the header, e.g.: From: =?utf-8?q?Hubert Lfa?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: =?utf-8?q?Eustace Oiw?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: =?utf-8?q?Economize 65 % or mo?= =?utf-8?q?re on our prescript?= =?utf-8?q?ions?= I tried adding rules (SA 2.

Re: Insecure dependency in eval while running setuid

2004-11-15 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:51 AM 11/13/2004 -0800, Vicki Brown wrote: 2004-11-13 17:32:05 [54661] i: error: Insecure dependency in eval while running setuid at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line 1669, line 37._ No such file or directory, continuing I have upgraded to SA 3.0.1

Re: Score 9.9 by configuration?

2004-11-15 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:55 PM 11/15/2004 +0100, you wrote: Ok, thanks for explaining. If add-ons are added should the `required' level be increased in order to prevent to much false positives? Really it depends on what the FP ratio of the added rules are like. Usualy not, or only very slightly, as most add-ons are

Priviliges on the Bayes DB

2004-11-15 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
Hi all! I'm just upgrading to 3.0.1, and I think I'd like to use a PostgreSQL database for my Bayes DB. I'm setting it up with a user, and they say it is a Good Idea to give this user the privileges it needs, no more, no less. I couldn't find this documented anywhere (is it?), so I looked thro

Re: Score 9.9 by configuration?

2004-11-15 Thread Hanspeter Roth
On Nov 14 at 21:28, Matt Kettler spoke: > Defintiely custom. > > FVGT_TRIPWIRE_* are add-on rules, and are not a part of the standard SA set. > TW_* are also add-on rules. In fact, I suspect they are a duplicate of the > same ruleset, but with different names. > LOCAL_OBFU generic is a local c

Re: Sensible way to use SpamCop reporting?

2004-11-15 Thread Owen McShane
> On Fri, 12 Nov 2004, Larry stipulated: > > You could comment out the "spamcop_to_address" in your configuration > > file. Then SA will report to the "generic" spamcop address. Your > > reports won't be given as much weight (whatever that means) but you > > won't get the confirmation emails eith

subject tagging doesn't work.. :(

2004-11-15 Thread Elizar Palad
hi list, me again.. still doing my first installation of sa. i just want to ask why is it that there is no modification being made in a captured spam email? In amavisd.conf $spam_quarantined_to recieves the spam email $spam_admin also recieved notifications but there's no SPAM in the su

Re: Score 9.9 by configuration?

2004-11-15 Thread Matt Kettler
Defintiely custom. FVGT_TRIPWIRE_* are add-on rules, and are not a part of the standard SA set. TW_* are also add-on rules. In fact, I suspect they are a duplicate of the same ruleset, but with different names. LOCAL_OBFU generic is a local customization. And a heavy hitter at 1.8 points. SARE_HEA

Re: SA 3.01 + DCC + Pyzor

2004-11-15 Thread Matt Kettler
At 05:06 PM 11/14/2004 +0100, Johan Barelds wrote: At this moment i use the SuSE 9.2 distro. I noticed that DCC and Pyzor are broken if beeing called from SA. (Nov 14 17:00:07 beast dccproc[4795]: missing message body; fatal error) I also read the docu from SA3.01 and found this: -- There is an iss

RE: spamassassin and web based mail !

2004-11-15 Thread Peter P. Benac
There is always a way; however, do you have the resources to program such an effort? You might be able to modify an Open Source Proxy Server, but even then it will be a effort. You are still missing the major point here. Spammers don't go to Cybercafés to send spam. Why should they go to a cy

Re: Score 9.9 by configuration?

2004-11-15 Thread JamesDR
Whats the issue here? Adding the scores comes to 10.2, but i haven't looked at the score set to determine what the exact precision was on each of those decimals. This is the score chart: 0.1 1.8 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.1 -2.6 -0.6 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7