Re: Speak to me of Bayes and scoring in SA 3.0

2004-09-16 Thread Daniel Quinlan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I thought so too... Well, I don't think the scores are the problem -- they are pretty much as good as they can get given the training data. I mean the entire method of putting them into ranges and scoring those ranges. -- Daniel Quinlan ApacheCon

FW: ****SPAM****(10.8) CONGRATULATIONS, US$500,000.00 FOR YOU

2004-09-16 Thread Doug Block
-Original Message- From: MEGA MILLION [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 1:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SPAM(10.8) CONGRATULATIONS, US$500,000.00 FOR YOU Spam detection software, running on the system "antispam.efastunding.com", has identified t

Re: Speak to me of Bayes and scoring in SA 3.0

2004-09-16 Thread snowjack
On 16 Sep 2004 13:39:30 -0700, "Daniel Quinlan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Bart Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Feeding the Bayes rules through the scoring algorithm seems to imply a > > lack of trust in the accuracy of the classifier. > > Mostly not. It's needed to map from the 0 to

Re: Speak to me of Bayes and scoring in SA 3.0

2004-09-16 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Bart Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Feeding the Bayes rules through the scoring algorithm seems to imply a > lack of trust in the accuracy of the classifier. Mostly not. It's needed to map from the 0 to 1.0 "probability" to the SpamAssassin threshold-based scoring method. Even in more p

Re: [RDJ] Weird Rules Du Jour Warning

2004-09-16 Thread Chris Thielen
Hi Josh, Would you try removing all the lines such as: [ ${VARIABLE} ] || declare -a VARIABLE; and then re-running? I'm clueless what is causing this. I'm not certain that [ ${PARSE_NEW_VER_SCRIPTS} ] syntax is proper, but it's been working for me for quite some time.My system is also Debian

Speak to me of Bayes and scoring in SA 3.0

2004-09-16 Thread Bart Schaefer
Pointers to archived discussion - or, better, some kind of rationale in the SA documentation - would be fine. I haven't been able to follow the developers list closely for quite some time. What I'm curious about is why the BAYES_* rules are fed through the scoring algorithm along with everything

Re: [OT] FUN: Something to send your family members!

2004-09-16 Thread Chris Barnes
Chris Santerre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So for anyone who knows what I'm talking about on this page, feel > free to spam it to all your friends and family! ;) > > http://www.rulesemporium.com/rant.html The really funny thing is that for the first 10 years of my professional life I ran a help

RE: [SARE] Some SARE spam.

2004-09-16 Thread Gary Smith
She looks like the girl from CSI except blonde. Then again, her eyebrows aren't! From: Jim Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 9/16/2004 8:32 AM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: [SARE] Some SARE spam. Quoting Chris Santerre <[EMAIL PROTECTE

RE: [SARE] Some SARE spam.

2004-09-16 Thread Kurt Buff
> Does anyone else seriously think that donating to a open > source project > should be a tax write off? Or am I the only one??? Would a > project have to > become a non profit? I just see sooo many people donating > things to open > source, they should at least get a tax break. I mean, I can >

Re: Subject line

2004-09-16 Thread Chris Barnes
Jeff Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I certainly agree with a simple [SA} prefix so that the SA emails > don't get lost and deleted with all the other stuff I get. However, > this came up a few months ago and the SA list nazis decided that we > must be too stupid not to have programmed our email

Re: [sa-list] sign up for spam

2004-09-16 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004, Lucas Albers wrote: Posting to the usenet seems to be a good way to go about it. Try posting a few personals to alt.sex.fetish.diapers or something. Disclaimer: I'm kidding, of course. -Dan Any ideas on how to go through the process of signing up for spam. Someone stole one

RE: sign up for spam

2004-09-16 Thread Peuhkurinen, Kevin
Why not just report the thief to your local law enforcement agency? That would seem a much more appropriate way to go. After all, the thief could just get SpamAssassin and never see any of that spam you signed him/her up for. -Original Message- From: Lucas Albers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTE

sign up for spam

2004-09-16 Thread Lucas Albers
Any ideas on how to go through the process of signing up for spam. Someone stole one of my friends credit card's number, and signed up with some porno sites with his real email address. I wanted to sign up the thief to every spamming email list on the planet. I think this same idea would be appli

RE: SA 3 & Win32/Exchange

2004-09-16 Thread Ken Goods
Jamie Pratt scribbled on Thursday, September 16, 2004 6:27 AM: > Hi, I've been looking at how to integrate SA 3 (or 2.64 if > not possible > for 3) with MS exchange and have been looking at this page: > > http://www.christopherlewis.com/ExchangeSpamAssassin.htm > > ... Seems doable, but now wond

Re: Creating a custom tag via a plugin

2004-09-16 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Parker writes: > On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 09:35:34AM -0700, Justin Mason wrote: > > > > I'm pretty sure there's a bugzilla bug open about this... I can't find it > > though. Could you open a bug at http://bugzilla.spamassassin.org/ > > to re

Re: [sa-list] Lost Newbie

2004-09-16 Thread Lucas Albers
Dan Mahoney, System Admin said: > > By the way, the defaults are usually pretty decent (and get way better > once the bayes magic starts working). Perhaps you should look at WHY ham > is being caught, and be sure to teach your users how to properly whitelist > their mail if there's a problem. Th

Re: Creating a custom tag via a plugin

2004-09-16 Thread Michael Parker
On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 09:35:34AM -0700, Justin Mason wrote: > > > I'm pretty sure there's a bugzilla bug open about this... I can't find it > though. Could you open a bug at http://bugzilla.spamassassin.org/ > to request it? > Turns out it's easy enough to do, but it might be cool to add a

Re: [RDJ] Weird Rules Du Jour Warning

2004-09-16 Thread Josh Trutwin
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 10:59:56 -0500 Chris Thielen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Josh, > On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 15:57 -0500, Josh Trutwin wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Every time I run rules_du_jour (latest version) I get a > > warning/error message, but I cannot tell where it is. I changed > > perl to/

Re: Creating a custom tag via a plugin

2004-09-16 Thread Michael Parker
On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 12:01:21PM -0400, Brian Keifer wrote: [snip] > > I'd like to add a second value, specified by the user and stored in > the same table as all of the other SA prefs. This would be a second, > higher, score that I'd like to have inserted as a second header into > each message

Re: Creating a custom tag via a plugin

2004-09-16 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm pretty sure there's a bugzilla bug open about this... I can't find it though. Could you open a bug at http://bugzilla.spamassassin.org/ to request it? - --j. Brian Keifer writes: > I'm using SpamAssassin 3.0 RC5 to tag messages according to pe

Creating a custom tag via a plugin

2004-09-16 Thread Brian Keifer
Hi, list. I'm using SpamAssassin 3.0 RC5 to tag messages according to per-user preferences specified in an SQL database. Users have the ability to modify their settings in the database via a web-based application (Sam, part of the Horde project). One of the settings is required_hits. If the mes

Re: [RDJ] Weird Rules Du Jour Warning

2004-09-16 Thread Chris Thielen
Hi Josh, On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 15:57 -0500, Josh Trutwin wrote: > Hi, > > Every time I run rules_du_jour (latest version) I get a warning/error > message, but I cannot tell where it is. I changed perl to > /usr/bin/perl -w and this is what it displays: > > # /root/bin/rules_du_jour > /root/bin/r

Re: Rule Suggestion

2004-09-16 Thread Jack L. Stone
At 10:39 AM 9.16.2004 -0400, Ryan Moore wrote: >Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: >> Guys, >> >> Given that some spammers like to just slam mail at everyone at an entire >> domain, is there an option to "greylist" these addresses? >> >> For example, my father's wife peggy has the domain peggytagg

Re: Rule Suggestion

2004-09-16 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004, David B Funk wrote: On Wed, 15 Sep 2004, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: Guys, Given that some spammers like to just slam mail at everyone at an entire domain, is there an option to "greylist" these addresses? For example, my father's wife peggy has the domain peggytaggart.com

Re: [SARE] Some SARE spam.

2004-09-16 Thread Jim Maul
Quoting Chris Santerre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Greetings Spamfighters. This is the only time I'll mention this. I , yes I, requested a paypal donate button for SARE. I put it up on the homepage of SARE. I wanted this just because our host has been very good to us, and put up with quite a lot of traffi

Re: Sendmail - Mimedefang - Spamassassin

2004-09-16 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 05:08:23PM +0200, Trevor Dodds wrote: > All outbound email flow through this server aswell. So I need all > internal mail servers to be > skiped. You need to talk to the mimedefang guys and ask how you do that. It has nothing to do with SpamAssassin itself. -- Randomly

Sendmail - Mimedefang - Spamassassin

2004-09-16 Thread Trevor Dodds
Hi,   I've installed Sendmail 8.13.1 / MIMEdefang 2.44 / Spamassassin 2.64 - This is a relay server. I've added trusted_networks    172.16/16 to the sa-mimedefang.cf but this doesn't help.  All outbound email flow through this server aswell.  So I need all internal mail servers to

Re: [sa-list] Re: Spammers Bypassing Whitelists / Rule Suggestion / Performance

2004-09-16 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004, Stewart Nelson wrote: Turn this around and make a rule for it. I have one and it works great. FROM_ME_TO_ME. The description says, "Why the hell would I get email from myself, from outside!" Well, I often send myself email, usually to store some (important to me but not sensiti

Re: Rule Suggestion

2004-09-16 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004, Ryan Moore wrote: Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: Guys, Given that some spammers like to just slam mail at everyone at an entire domain, is there an option to "greylist" these addresses? For example, my father's wife peggy has the domain peggytaggart.com, she ONLY gives out

Re: Rule Suggestion

2004-09-16 Thread Ryan Moore
Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: Guys, Given that some spammers like to just slam mail at everyone at an entire domain, is there an option to "greylist" these addresses? For example, my father's wife peggy has the domain peggytaggart.com, she ONLY gives out the peggy@ email address for this. Fo

Re: [SARE] Some SARE spam.

2004-09-16 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 09:36:53AM -0400, Chris Santerre wrote: > Does anyone else seriously think that donating to a open source project > should be a tax write off? Or am I the only one??? Would a project have to You know, if you donate to the Apache Software Foundation (see http://apache.org/fo

Re: Skip mail already checked mails?

2004-09-16 Thread Matt Kettler
At 03:43 AM 8/21/2004, Xavier wrote: relay1 & relay2 have booth a SpamAssassing running. Problem: when a mail is received on relay2, it's being check by SA and tagged as spam. Later, relay2 sent it to relay1. relay1 don't mark it as spam??? How to re-use the tags added by relay2? How do you call SA

Re: Spammers bypassing filters

2004-09-16 Thread Bob George
Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: [...] Here's an example to show what I mean. From: Ackermanmloz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you whitelist mail from or to the prime.gushi.org domain, or to danm? X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on prime.gushi.org X-Spam-Sta

RE: [SARE] Some SARE spam.

2004-09-16 Thread Gary Smith
BTW, if you open source project happened to have an NPO license from the state for which it holds a license to conduct business (yes, I know it's an oxymoron) which isn't hard to get then yes, donations would be a tax write off... Gary > -Original Message- > From: Chris Santerre [mailto:[

[SARE] Some SARE spam.

2004-09-16 Thread Chris Santerre
Greetings Spamfighters. This is the only time I'll mention this. I , yes I, requested a paypal donate button for SARE. I put it up on the homepage of SARE. I wanted this just because our host has been very good to us, and put up with quite a lot of traffic :) They Never asked for anything. Not eve

RE: Subject line

2004-09-16 Thread Kang , Joseph S.
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 4:10 AM > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: Subject line > > > Dave Goodrich wrote: > > I was non committal on the whole subject when this started. > I tend to >

SA 3 & Win32/Exchange

2004-09-16 Thread Jamie Pratt
Hi, I've been looking at how to integrate SA 3 (or 2.64 if not possible for 3) with MS exchange and have been looking at this page: http://www.christopherlewis.com/ExchangeSpamAssassin.htm ... Seems doable, but now wondering if anyone out here has any experience or feedback on the implementation

Re: Subject line

2004-09-16 Thread Bob Proulx
Dave Goodrich wrote: > I was non committal on the whole subject when this started. I tend to > disagree with militant list nazis regardless of the topic or the view > they put forth. This is the second time in this thread that Nazis have been mentioned. I hereby invoke Godwin's Law and declare t

Re: [OT] FUN: Something to send your family members!

2004-09-16 Thread jdow
From: "Roger Taranto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 09:14, Chris Santerre wrote: > > > So for anyone who knows what I'm talking about on this page, feel free to > > spam it to all your friends and family! ;) > > > You *must* check out the t-shirts here: > http://www.thinkgeek.com/tsh

Re: Rule Suggestion

2004-09-16 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: > Guys, > > Given that some spammers like to just slam mail at everyone at an entire > domain, is there an option to "greylist" these addresses? > > For example, my father's wife peggy has the domain peggytaggart.com, she > ONLY gives out the p

Re: [OT] FUN: Something to send your family members!

2004-09-16 Thread Ryan Moore
Roger Taranto wrote: You *must* check out the t-shirts here: http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/frustrations/ Especially this one: http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/frustrations/388b/ I wear that one whenever I go visit my father, wear it just for him ;] And, this one is a personal favorite: http:

Re: [OT] FUN: Something to send your family members!

2004-09-16 Thread Roger Taranto
On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 09:14, Chris Santerre wrote: So for anyone who knows what I'm talking about on this page, feel free to spam it to all your friends and family! ;) You *must* check out the t-shirts here: http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/frustrations/ Especially this one: http://www.thin

Re[2]: Cannot whitelist this address

2004-09-16 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Tobin, Wednesday, September 15, 2004, 7:24:42 AM, you wrote: T> Thanks for your response. I tried whitelisting the spoofed address. And T> then yes the IP which I know is porposterous but Im desparate. Then I T> whitelisted the SMTP DNS name which is also wrong. Im lost as to what I T> shou

Re: Spammers Bypassing Whitelists / Rule Suggestion / Performance

2004-09-16 Thread Stewart Nelson
Turn this around and make a rule for it. I have one and it works great. FROM_ME_TO_ME. The description says, "Why the hell would I get email from myself, from outside!" Well, I often send myself email, usually to store some (important to me but not sensitive) information so it can be accessed from

Re: Rule Suggestion

2004-09-16 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004, Kelson wrote: Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: Yes, I know this. I actually wrote something to create a RBL based on virus senders. I'd just like to be able to drop (or maybe teergrube) the connection in the BEGINNING instead of after the hangup. Look into the sendmail conf

Re: Rule Suggestion

2004-09-16 Thread Kelson
Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: Yes, I know this. I actually wrote something to create a RBL based on virus senders. I'd just like to be able to drop (or maybe teergrube) the connection in the BEGINNING instead of after the hangup. Look into the sendmail config option BAD_RCPT_THROTTLE. The v