Re: Apache to Microsoft: who needs Sender-ID?

2004-09-02 Thread John Andersen
On Thursday 02 September 2004 03:43 pm, Steve Sobol wrote: > Kevin Peuhkurinen wrote: > > Yes. Although Microsoft has refused to disclose what they have > > actually applied for patents on, their license only applies to specific > > parts of Sender-ID, which seems to imply that they did not apply

Re: Apache to Microsoft: who needs Sender-ID?

2004-09-02 Thread Steve Sobol
Kevin Peuhkurinen wrote: Yes. Although Microsoft has refused to disclose what they have actually applied for patents on, their license only applies to specific parts of Sender-ID, which seems to imply that they did not apply for patents on SPF itself. In any case, it is certainly seems safe

Re: Apache to Microsoft: who needs Sender-ID?

2004-09-02 Thread Codger
I don't think I'll be implementing Sender ID. Sounds like another MS stab at open source to me: On Sep 2, 2004, at 1:45 PM, Chris Santerre wrote: http://apache.org/foundation/docs/sender-id-position.html On the other side, SPF is really taking off if you look at the acceptance graphs:

RE: Applying SURBL against blog comment spammers

2004-09-02 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 2:04 PM >To: Chris Santerre >Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; Matthew Hunter; SATalk; SURBL Discuss >Subject: Re: Applying SURBL against blog comment spammers > > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MES

Re: Applying SURBL against blog comment spammers

2004-09-02 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Santerre writes: > Which is NOT in SURBL!! (It will be today!) Because like Dr. Evil this is a > pre-emptive Shhh! It is just a matter of time before this site is used in an > email spam. I also see no difference between this blog spam and email

Re: Apache to Microsoft: who needs Sender-ID?

2004-09-02 Thread Kevin Peuhkurinen
Yes. Although Microsoft has refused to disclose what they have actually applied for patents on, their license only applies to specific parts of Sender-ID, which seems to imply that they did not apply for patents on SPF itself. In any case, it is certainly seems safe to continue using SPF fo

RE: Applying SURBL against blog comment spammers

2004-09-02 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 12:28 PM >To: Matthew Hunter >Cc: SATalk; SURBL Discuss >Subject: Re: Applying SURBL against blog comment spammers > > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > > >Matthew H

Re: Apache to Microsoft: who needs Sender-ID?

2004-09-02 Thread Kelson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://apache.org/foundation/docs/sender-id-position.html More like "Who needs patent problems?" The position appears to be 100% on patents and licencing, not on the technology or the concept. Next question: presumably SPF, though now a subset of Sender-Id, is still unen

uribl.cgi broken?

2004-09-02 Thread Mariano Absatz
AFAIK, nic.ar never had a whois service... only queries via web... in fact, at one point, the output of the web query was a .gif autogenerated... I think it's now again plain text, so you should be able to automatically query it using LWP or something along the lines (it only accepts POSTs not GET

RE: Apache to Microsoft: who needs Sender-ID?

2004-09-02 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 1:24 PM >To: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Apache to Microsoft: who needs Sender-ID? > > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > >http://apache.org/foundation/doc

Apache to Microsoft: who needs Sender-ID?

2004-09-02 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
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Re: GTUBE won't go through?

2004-09-02 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:19 PM 9/2/2004, Grant Baxter wrote: Does anyone have any ideas as to why I can't send the GTUBE text from "sample-spam.txt" to either myself or my wife? The emails just don't show up. That's odd.. are you using some kind of integration tool that wipes out emails over a certain score? BTW -

RE: uribl.cgi broken?

2004-09-02 Thread William Stearns
On Thu, 2 Sep 2004, Dallas L. Engelken wrote: > > > > Hi Dallas, > > > > after more than a month I'm back on-line... so I returned to > > my usual SURBL reporting for Bill's list using > > http://www.rulesemporium.com/cgi-bin/uribl.cgi > > > > However, for some reason, I can't post any domain

RE: uribl.cgi broken?

2004-09-02 Thread William Stearns
Good afternoon, Dallas, On Thu, 2 Sep 2004, Dallas L. Engelken wrote: > > after more than a month I'm back on-line... so I returned to > > my usual SURBL reporting for Bill's list using > > http://www.rulesemporium.com/cgi-bin/uribl.cgi > > > > However, for some reason, I can't post any domain

Re: Applying SURBL against blog comment spammers

2004-09-02 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Hunter writes: > On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 09:36:29AM -0400, Chris Santerre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >-Original Message- > > >From: Jeff Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 3:24 AM > > >To: SAT

RE: uribl.cgi broken?

2004-09-02 Thread Dallas L. Engelken
> > Hi Dallas, > > after more than a month I'm back on-line... so I returned to > my usual SURBL reporting for Bill's list using > http://www.rulesemporium.com/cgi-bin/uribl.cgi > > However, for some reason, I can't post any domain name ending in '.ar' > (Argentina, my country) in the bl check

Re: [SURBL-Discuss] RE: Applying SURBL against blog comment spammers

2004-09-02 Thread Kelson
Jeff Chan wrote: Are they advertising legitimate sites or bad guy sites? Gambling sites, "pillz" sites, etc. The usual. More insidious are the ones that link to legit blogs that have already been spammed, as described here: http://photomatt.net/2004/08/01/weeds-in-the-garden/ -- Kelson Vibber S

Re: [SURBL-Discuss] Re: Applying SURBL against blog comment spammers

2004-09-02 Thread Kelson
Michele Neylon :: Blacknight Solutions wrote: Which blogger are you using? I moved my own blog over to Wordpress a couple of months ago and I haven't had any issues with comment spammers since. Oh, they hit us WordPress users too, just not as often as MT. Having it automatically moderate comments

GTUBE won't go through?

2004-09-02 Thread Grant Baxter
Does anyone have any ideas as to why I can't send the GTUBE text from "sample-spam.txt" to either myself or my wife? The emails just don't show up. BTW - I had a disk crash, and decided to try SA 3.0 instead of re-installing 2.6 and then having to turn around and install 3.0 shortly thereafter. I

Re: update gmane with new list e-mail address?

2004-09-02 Thread Matt Kettler
At 11:16 AM 9/2/2004, exo dia wrote: is someone going to update news.gmane.org to subscribe to the new spamassassin list address? it looks like gmane is still using the old address, as no new articles for spamassassin are appearing there since the list move http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=spamassa

Re: baysian filter - tokens signification

2004-09-02 Thread Matt Kettler
At 06:05 AM 9/2/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I search the signification of the Baysian tokens eg. U* , N:HContent-type: , 8: etc etc Where can i find this information ? Look at Bayes.pm, it's a strange kind of short-hand used for headers and URLs. Disclaimer: I don't fully understand this code,

Re: Applying SURBL against blog comment spammers

2004-09-02 Thread Matthew Hunter
On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 09:36:29AM -0400, Chris Santerre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >-Original Message- > >From: Jeff Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 3:24 AM > >To: SATalk > >Cc: SURBL Discuss > >Subject: Re: Applying SURBL against blog comment spamme

Testing SPF in 3.0-rc2

2004-09-02 Thread John
Hi, I am trying to test the SPF capablities of SA-3.0-rc2 (also using perl 5.6.0, postfix 1.1.11, amavisd-new-20030616-p10). I have 2 instances of postfix sandwiching amavisd-new which calls SA). I am using telnet from my optonline.net machine setting the MAIL FROM: to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to my test

update gmane with new list e-mail address?

2004-09-02 Thread exo dia
hello, is someone going to update news.gmane.org to subscribe to the new spamassassin list address? it looks like gmane is still using the old address, as no new articles for spamassassin are appearing there since the list move. thanks ! --ed

uribl.cgi broken?

2004-09-02 Thread Mariano Absatz
Hi Dallas, after more than a month I'm back on-line... so I returned to my usual SURBL reporting for Bill's list using http://www.rulesemporium.com/cgi-bin/uribl.cgi However, for some reason, I can't post any domain name ending in '.ar' (Argentina, my country) in the bl check form. I tried curso

Re: [SURBL-Discuss] RE: Applying SURBL against blog comment spammers

2004-09-02 Thread Jeff Chan
On Thursday, September 2, 2004, 7:08:47 AM, Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote: >> Are the blog spammers scammers and criminals like professional >> mail spammers? Do they advertise legitimate sites, or the usual >> pill and mortgage sites in Korea, China and Brazil? > Yes they are. Are they advertising l

RE: [SURBL-Discuss] RE: Applying SURBL against blog comment spamm ers

2004-09-02 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: Rob McEwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 9:54 AM >To: 'SURBL Discussion list'; 'Jeff Chan'; 'SATalk' >Subject: RE: [SURBL-Discuss] RE: Applying SURBL against blog comment >spammers > > >>SO I say, go ahead and add them. > >Chris..

Re: network tests stoped working

2004-09-02 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:07 PM 9/2/2004 +0300, Alexander Piavka wrote: Now a couple of days ago on one hosts the network tests stoped working, while nothing was changed and both hosts are open in the firewall. Any ideas what could be the reason? First check for gross errors: spamassassin --lint Then try reso

Re: [SURBL-Discuss] RE: Applying SURBL against blog comment spammers

2004-09-02 Thread Jeff Chan
On Thursday, September 2, 2004, 6:53:41 AM, Rob McEwen wrote: >>SO I say, go ahead and add them. > Chris... where have you been? We have had extensive discussions recently > where we all concluded that we have to make getting the FPs down a priority > and the only way to do this is to (gulp), allo

Re: Applying SURBL against blog comment spammers

2004-09-02 Thread Jeff Chan
On Thursday, September 2, 2004, 6:36:29 AM, Chris Santerre wrote: >>From: Jeff Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>We could perhaps set up a separate SURBL for blog spammers. >>It would be a slight shift in focus since the other SURBLs are >>all for email spam. Can you give an idea of how many recor

RE: Applying SURBL against blog comment spammers

2004-09-02 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: Jeff Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 3:24 AM >To: SATalk >Cc: SURBL Discuss >Subject: Re: Applying SURBL against blog comment spammers > > >On Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 11:25:40 PM, Matthew Hunter wrote: >> I just whipped u

network tests stoped working

2004-09-02 Thread Alexander Piavka
Hi ,i have exactly the same spamassasin-2.64 installation and configuration on two hosts with same hardware and exaclty the same Mandrake 8.2 linux installation. Now a couple of days ago on one hosts the network tests stoped working, while nothing was changed and both hosts are open in the firewa

baysian filter - tokens signification

2004-09-02 Thread alain . guittot
Hi all I search the signification of the Baysian tokens eg. U* , N:HContent-type: , 8: etc etc Where can i find this information ? Thanks for your help

RE: [SURBL-Discuss] Re: Applying SURBL against blog comment spammers

2004-09-02 Thread Michele Neylon :: Blacknight Solutions
Which blogger are you using? I moved my own blog over to Wordpress a couple of months ago and I haven't had any issues with comment spammers since. Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd Hosting, co-location & domains http://www.blacknight.ie/ Tel. +353 59 9137101 -- Email scanne

Re: [SURBL-Discuss] Re: Applying SURBL against blog comment spammers

2004-09-02 Thread Jeff Chan
On Thursday, September 2, 2004, 12:50:29 AM, Matthew Hunter wrote: > On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 12:23:48AM -0700, Jeff Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > to what looks like 3-4 entities and about 20 domains. I just > started compiling it today, though. There are probably more > buried in the logs t

Re: [SURBL-Discuss] Re: Applying SURBL against blog comment spammers

2004-09-02 Thread Matthew Hunter
On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 12:23:48AM -0700, Jeff Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We could perhaps set up a separate SURBL for blog spammers. > It would be a slight shift in focus since the other SURBLs are > all for email spam. Can you give an idea of how many records > you have? Since my weblog

Re: Applying SURBL against blog comment spammers

2004-09-02 Thread Jeff Chan
On Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 11:25:40 PM, Matthew Hunter wrote: > I just whipped up some code to reject trackback/comment spam > using a SURBL as a data source. Unfortunately, the people > spamming my weblogs aren't in multi.surbl.org, so I will have to > maintain my own local blacklist serv

Re: Sorry to ask but how to I unsubscribe

2004-09-02 Thread Loren Wilton
Subject: Sorry to ask but how to I unsubscribe > I don't see anything obvious. Look in the mail message headers Loren

Sorry to ask but how to I unsubscribe

2004-09-02 Thread Shawn Everett
I don't see anything obvious. Shawn

Re: Applying SURBL against blog comment spammers

2004-09-02 Thread Matthew Hunter
On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 11:30:08PM -0500, Bob Apthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [cc'd to SATalk] > On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 20:45:18 -0700 Jeff Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 6:57:12 PM, Bob Apthorpe wrote: > > > You've sparked a thought. I'd rather not (badly)

Re: Applying SURBL against blog comment spammers

2004-09-02 Thread Bob Apthorpe
Hi, [cc'd to SATalk] On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 20:45:18 -0700 Jeff Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 6:57:12 PM, Bob Apthorpe wrote: > > You've sparked a thought. I'd rather not (badly) rewrite and maintain > > existing, tested code so maybe the right thing to do is take

Re: Sending messages to multiple servers

2004-09-02 Thread Scot L. Harris
On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 15:54, Dave Weiner wrote: > My boss wants me to setup at least two servers to compare the detection rates > of SA + ClamAV with other products, so he wants me to setup some sort of > gateway that will listen on port 25 as our primary MX, accept the message, > then send the

RE: 1-Megabyte Spam

2004-09-02 Thread jburzenski
Title: RE: 1-Megabyte Spam I doubt it will become cost effective for main stream spammers to send such large messages in the near future.  Spammers return on a million messages is usually fairly infinitesimal and the cost of sending a million 1MB messages using hijacked home machines or unmoni