Re: [Users] Shortest guide about running OpenVZ containers on top of ZFS

2014-11-12 Thread Nick Knutov
Oh. I missed this. 13.11.2014 2:28, Devon B. пишет: > I don't think you can just run ploop over ZFS. Ploop requires ext4 as > the host filesystem according to bug 2277: > https://bugzilla.openvz.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2277 -- Best Regards, Nick Knutov http://knutov.com ICQ: 272873706 Voice: +7-

Re: [Users] Shortest guide about running OpenVZ containers on top of ZFS

2014-11-12 Thread Devon B.
Nick Knutov Wednesday, November 12, 2014 3:40 PM ZFS in this case is more alternative to Parallels Cloud Storage which is closed source and hard to get even for money (I contacted Parallels sales several times and never got the pricelist from them). Also, ZFS is goo

Re: [Users] Shortest guide about running OpenVZ containers on top of ZFS

2014-11-12 Thread Pavel Odintsov
Parallels Cloud Storage is not an real filesystem in "old filesystems" terms, it based on ext4 locally and provides only remote features like redundancy and multi level caching. On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 11:40 PM, Nick Knutov wrote: > When you need quotes and there is only one way to get them... >

Re: [Users] Shortest guide about running OpenVZ containers on top of ZFS

2014-11-12 Thread Nick Knutov
When you need quotes and there is only one way to get them... I don't think ploop is about to solve ext4 troubles. I's just solve some troubles (which are common to a lot of file systems). ZFS in this case is more alternative to Parallels Cloud Storage which is closed source and hard to get even

Re: [Users] Shortest guide about running OpenVZ containers on top of ZFS

2014-11-12 Thread Devon B.
Scott Dowdle Wednesday, November 12, 2014 2:48 PM Greetings, - Original Message - Performance issues aren't the only problem ploop solves... it also solves the changing inode issue. When a container is migrated from one host to another with simfs, in

Re: [Users] Shortest guide about running OpenVZ containers on top of ZFS

2014-11-12 Thread Scott Dowdle
Greetings, - Original Message - > Ploop is really useless for ZFS because it solves ext4 troubles and > ZFS haven't this issues by design. Quotes maybe problems, good > addition. I just added remark about quotes to comparison table. Performance issues aren't the only problem ploop solves.

Re: [Users] Shortest guide about running OpenVZ containers on top of ZFS

2014-11-12 Thread Pavel Odintsov
Hello, Nick! Ploop is really useless for ZFS because it solves ext4 troubles and ZFS haven't this issues by design. Quotes maybe problems, good addition. I just added remark about quotes to comparison table. On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:56 PM, Nick Knutov wrote: > Well, good beginning, but.. > > as

Re: [Users] Shortest guide about running OpenVZ containers on top of ZFS

2014-11-12 Thread Pavel Odintsov
Thank you for suggestion! Just added! On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:20 PM, CoolCold wrote: > I think you should add some links for general zfs-on-linux with openvz > install / setup guide, to help people who will be inspired by your readme > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Pavel Odintsov > wrote:

Re: [Users] Shortest guide about running OpenVZ containers on top of ZFS

2014-11-12 Thread Nick Knutov
Well, good beginning, but.. as we discussed earlier: in most cases of hosting purposes users need quotes. And quotes work only with ext4. So the only real possible case of usage is ploop over zfs and the only good reason to have zfs here is l2arc cache on ssd or large amount SSD disks in raidz3 o

Re: [Users] Shortest guide about running OpenVZ containers on top of ZFS

2014-11-12 Thread CoolCold
I think you should add some links for general zfs-on-linux with openvz install / setup guide, to help people who will be inspired by your readme On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Pavel Odintsov wrote: > Hello, everyone! > > Tonight I tested and prepared very short and reliable guide about > runni

Re: [Users] Shortest guide about running OpenVZ containers on top of ZFS

2014-11-12 Thread Pavel Odintsov
Hello! I created comparison table for answer to your question: https://github.com/pavel-odintsov/OpenVZ_ZFS/blob/master/openvz_storage_backends.md On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 7:10 PM, Scott Dowdle wrote: > Greetings, > > - Original Message - >> Tonight I tested and prepared very short and re

Re: [Users] Shortest guide about running OpenVZ containers on top of ZFS

2014-11-12 Thread Scott Dowdle
Greetings, - Original Message - > Tonight I tested and prepared very short and reliable guide about > running OpenVZ container on top of > best-ever-and-ever-zettabyte-filesystem ZFS. > > You can find manual here: > https://github.com/pavel-odintsov/OpenVZ_ZFS/blob/master/OpenVZ_container

[Users] Shortest guide about running OpenVZ containers on top of ZFS

2014-11-12 Thread Pavel Odintsov
Hello, everyone! Tonight I tested and prepared very short and reliable guide about running OpenVZ container on top of best-ever-and-ever-zettabyte-filesystem ZFS. You can find manual here: https://github.com/pavel-odintsov/OpenVZ_ZFS/blob/master/OpenVZ_containers_on_zfs_filesystem.md Any questio