Re: Codes

2013-06-25 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 06/24/2013 10:32 AM, Brian Barker wrote: You'll have noticed, I hope, that I've anyway been corrected: you *can* do this easily in Writer, using Format | AutoCorrect > | Apply. Ummm, I had no idea you could do that, but I see that it works That would have saved me at least one macro.

Re: Codes

2013-06-24 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi, Doug schrieb: On 06/22/2013 10:35 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: /snip/ If the WP lobby feel so strongly about not having "Reveal Codes", why don't they do something about it and write an extension to do just that? Maybe it's because we're not programmers. We're people who just want to us

Re: Codes

2013-06-24 Thread Brian Barker
At 09:38 24/06/2013 -0400, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: On 06/23/2013 12:08 AM, Brian Barker wrote: At 22:20 22/06/2013 -0400, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: At 14:44 22/06/2013 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote: Now if OO and LO are so great, why can't they deal with curly quotes and apostrophes i

Re: Codes

2013-06-24 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 06/23/2013 12:08 AM, Brian Barker wrote: At 22:20 22/06/2013 -0400, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: At 14:44 22/06/2013 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote: Now if OO and LO are so great, why can't they deal with curly quotes and apostrophes in imported text? I have to go thru and fix all the damned

Re: Codes

2013-06-23 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2013/6/23 Rory O'Farrell : > One tip: in many versions (all? I haven't checked) of OpenOffice it can be > difficult (impossible?) to insert a curly quote into the Replace box from > /Insert /Special Characters. Compose >" → ” Compose <" → “ Compose ," → „ Note that the Compose key should not be

Re: Codes

2013-06-23 Thread johnny smith
On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 05:17:07 -, Rory O'Farrell wrote: One tip: in many versions (all? I haven't checked) of OpenOffice it can be difficult (impossible?) to insert a curly quote into the Replace box from /Insert /Special Characters. inserting special characters into that box is availabl

Re: Codes

2013-06-22 Thread Brian Barker
At 06:17 23/06/2013 +0100, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 05:08:25 +0100 Brian Barker wrote: At 22:20 22/06/2013 -0400, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: At 14:44 22/06/2013 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote: Now if OO and LO are so great, why can't they deal with curly quotes and apostrophe

Re: Codes

2013-06-22 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 06:17:07 +0100 Rory O'Farrell wrote: > On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 05:08:25 +0100 > Brian Barker wrote: > > > At 22:20 22/06/2013 -0400, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: > > At 14:44 22/06/2013 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote: > > >>Now if OO and LO are so great, why can't they deal with

Re: Codes

2013-06-22 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 05:08:25 +0100 Brian Barker wrote: > At 22:20 22/06/2013 -0400, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: > At 14:44 22/06/2013 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote: > >>Now if OO and LO are so great, why can't they deal with curly > >>quotes and apostrophes in imported text? I have to go thru a

Re: Codes

2013-06-22 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 04:49:39 +0100 Brian Barker wrote: > At 14:44 22/06/2013 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote: > >Now if OO and LO are so great, why can't they deal with curly quotes > >and apostrophes in imported text? > > Good question. > > >If I remember correctly--I haven't looked at OO/LO in s

Re: Codes

2013-06-22 Thread Brian Barker
At 22:20 22/06/2013 -0400, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: At 14:44 22/06/2013 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote: Now if OO and LO are so great, why can't they deal with curly quotes and apostrophes in imported text? I have to go thru and fix all the damned inch marks one by one by hand. WordPerfect ca

Re: Codes

2013-06-22 Thread Brian Barker
At 14:44 22/06/2013 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote: Now if OO and LO are so great, why can't they deal with curly quotes and apostrophes in imported text? Good question. If I remember correctly--I haven't looked at OO/LO in some time--they don't let you find and replace double spaces. Meanwhil

Re: Codes

2013-06-22 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 06/22/2013 06:25 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: ​Actually reveal codes sound more to me to LaTeX which there are also open source editors like LyX and also many people have developed some type of extensions for this. I don't see however how possible is to do this with extensions except more c

Re: Codes

2013-06-22 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
Doug, I can provide a macro that does provide an ability to reveal codes (not written by me), but, sadly, if you don't understand how styles work, it might not be helpful because it shows things like "this style begins here". On 06/22/2013 02:44 PM, Doug wrote: Maybe it's because we're not pr

Re: Codes

2013-06-22 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 06/22/2013 04:46 PM, Toki Kantoor wrote: On 06/22/2013 05:17 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Being able to surface some UI ability to reveal the sources of the feature controls that govern a point in the user-perceived document text may require both deep and wide modification of current code

Re: Codes

2013-06-22 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Virgil Arrington >wrote: > > > I wouldn't dream of going back to WP. I still have it on my computer to > > read documents sent to me by others, and every time I load it, it looks > > like a techno-dinosaur

Re: Codes

2013-06-22 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: > I wouldn't dream of going back to WP. I still have it on my computer to > read documents sent to me by others, and every time I load it, it looks > like a techno-dinosaur. > > Reveal codes? Why? With a styles-based program, there are no co

Re: Codes

2013-06-22 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Robert Funnell wrote: > On Sat, 22 Jun 2013, Toki Kantoor wrote: > > On 06/22/2013 05:17 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: >> >>> Being able to surface some UI ability to reveal the sources of the >>> feature controls that govern a point in the user-perceived document

Re: Codes

2013-06-22 Thread Robert Funnell
On Sat, 22 Jun 2013, Toki Kantoor wrote: On 06/22/2013 05:17 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Being able to surface some UI ability to reveal the sources of the feature controls that govern a point in the user-perceived document text may require both deep and wide modification of current code.

Re: Codes

2013-06-22 Thread Toki Kantoor
On 06/22/2013 05:17 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Being able to surface some UI ability to reveal the sources of the feature > controls that govern a point in the user-perceived document text may require > both deep and wide modification of current code. That does not make the > feature undes

Re: Codes

2013-06-22 Thread Robert Funnell
On Sat, 22 Jun 2013, Doug wrote: On 06/22/2013 10:35 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: /snip/ If the WP lobby feel so strongly about not having "Reveal Codes", why don't they do something about it and write an extension to do just that? Maybe it's because we're not programmers. We're people who

Re: Codes

2013-06-22 Thread Doug
On 06/22/2013 12:27 PM, Ernie Kurtz wrote: > What might it take to persuade the WordPerfect people to offer a Mac version? /snip/ There once was a Linux version--back around 2002 or so. It used WINE, I'm told, and it didn't have a decent font set of its own, and didn't use TT fonts--maybe there w

Re: Codes

2013-06-22 Thread Doug
On 06/22/2013 10:35 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: /snip/ > > If the WP lobby feel so strongly about not having "Reveal Codes", why don't > they do something about it and write an extension to do just that? > Maybe it's because we're not programmers. We're people who just want to use a word proce

RE: Codes

2013-06-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
ch.edu] Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 09:27 AM To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Codes What might it take to persuade the WordPerfect people to offer a Mac version? On Jun 22, 2013, at 8:24 AM, Eric Fenster wrote: > Whoopee! The absence of reveal codes is up for discussion agai

RE: Codes

2013-06-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
iol.ie] Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 07:35 AM To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Codes On Sat, 22 Jun 2013 08:57:42 -0400 "Virgil Arrington" wrote: > Eric, > > I would fully agree with you if OO worked like WP, but they work entirely > differently. > [ ...

Re: Codes

2013-06-22 Thread Ernie Kurtz
SEEING where things happen and CHANGING them by deleting the codes. > > It is an ADDITIONAL convenience, not a requirement. Nobody is forced to > display the reveal codes window. > > --- On Fri, 6/21/13, Virgil Arrington wrote: > >> From: Virgil Arrington

Re: Codes

2013-06-22 Thread Rory O'Farrell
e > formatting is handled at the paragraph level, not in a linear stream of text > plus codes. Since learning how the program works with paragraph formatting > and, especially, styles, I've never found any need whatsoever for reveal > codes. > > Virgil > > > -

Re: Codes

2013-06-22 Thread Virgil Arrington
tsoever for reveal codes. Virgil -Original Message- From: Eric Fenster Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 8:24 AM To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Codes Whoopee! The absence of reveal codes is up for discussion again, and we continue to have defenders of the absence of this great WP to

Re: Codes

2013-06-22 Thread Eric Fenster
the reveal codes window. --- On Fri, 6/21/13, Virgil Arrington wrote: > From: Virgil Arrington > Subject: Re: Codes > To: users@openoffice.apache.org > Date: Friday, June 21, 2013, 2:24 PM > There *is* a "reveal styles." It's in > the Formatting Toolbar,

Re: Codes

2013-06-21 Thread Virgil Arrington
7;t go back to rabbit ears for my TV. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tamblyne Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 5:29 PM To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Codes Hi, Patricia -- Of course, you're going to be told -- and I can see that you already have -- that "you

Re: Codes

2013-06-21 Thread Tamblyne
Hi, Patricia -- Of course, you're going to be told -- and I can see that you already have -- that "you're not doing it right." Use styles. Styles will, apparently, take care everything, including promote world peace, as well as fix all that's wrong with your document. Perhaps if we asked f

Re: Codes

2013-06-20 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 19:54:50 -0400 Patricia Hickin wrote: > Is there any way to reveal codes in OO (the way you can in WordPerfect)? > > I am having a problem with the following: > > I am preparing a list of books as follows: > > In a table of two columns, I insert an image of the book cover i

Re: Codes

2013-06-20 Thread johnny smith
On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 23:54:50 -, Patricia Hickin wrote: I have obtained the info from www.worldcat.org, compiled a list of the books, copied the list into Notepad to strip it of formatting. Next I copied the list into an OO text document and formatted it as follows: try stripping off th

Re: Codes

2013-06-20 Thread Dale Erwin
My experience has been that I have to start all over with learning styles every time I start a new book. Especially since I rarely use the same format for two in a row. Dale Erwin Jr. 28 de Julio 657, Depto. 03 Magdalena del Mar, Lima 17 PERU http://leather.casaerwin.org On 6/20/2013 8:15 PM,

Re: Codes

2013-06-20 Thread Dale Erwin
Word Perfect has been a long time ago for me. When you say "reveal codes" do you mean show the formatting codes? If so, just click on theView menu and then on Nonprinting Characters. Dale Erwin Jr. 28 de Julio 657, Depto. 03 Magdalena del Mar, Lima 17 PERU http://leather.casaerwin.org On 6/2

Re: Codes

2013-06-20 Thread Robert Funnell
Pat - About Reveal Codes: I loved them in WP, and there's no reason why something comparable couldn't be implemented in OO and in fact somebody cobbled together a kind of demo at one point (in spite of what people say about styles). But we don't have them. About styles: Yes, that's the elega

Re: Codes

2013-06-20 Thread Patricia Hickin
Thanks, Alexandro, I think I'm dense -- I look at each of the urls but I don't see how any of them applies to my problem. Pat On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > Please learn to use the stylist, we have the document on our wiki and > download on ODT and PDF here: > > h

Re: Codes

2013-06-20 Thread Virgil Arrington
rg Subject: Re: Codes On 06/20/2013 07:54 PM, Patricia Hickin wrote: Is there any way to reveal codes in OO (the way you can in WordPerfect)? We went thru this a couple of months ago. The short answer is NO! You have to use something they call styles, which will change your whole document, no

Re: Codes

2013-06-20 Thread Alexandro Colorado
Please learn to use the stylist, we have the document on our wiki and download on ODT and PDF here: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Writer_Guide/Introduction_to_Styles Specifically creating styles http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Writer_G

Re: Codes

2013-06-20 Thread Doug
On 06/20/2013 07:54 PM, Patricia Hickin wrote: Is there any way to reveal codes in OO (the way you can in WordPerfect)? We went thru this a couple of months ago. The short answer is NO! You have to use something they call styles, which will change your whole document, not just the particular