RE: Folks seeking help

2014-01-05 Thread Think
Thank you. I have taken to deleting everything that comes from this listserv. It's shameful how people treat each other. I do advocacy work and I just don't need the agita on top of my work. Thank you for saying something. I don't know enough about OO to help, but I know a lot about computers. If

Folks seeking help

2014-01-05 Thread Timothy Wulf
I came to this list a long time ago and have seen a great number of people simply berated for seeking help with what to them is a serious problem. If a user has made their way to this list they are already frustrated, most likely confused and probably angry they haven't found an "official" suppor

Re: All essay text turned to hash [marks]--commentary

2014-01-05 Thread Brian Barker
The present "hashtag" problem ... hashtag : n ... a word or phrase preceded by a hash mark, used to denote the topic of a post (Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged) Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: All essay text turned to hashtags--commentary

2014-01-05 Thread Keith N. McKenna
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anthony J. Rudgers wrote: > Greetings All! > > The present "hashtag" problem is is symptomatic of the entire OO > software suite. An ordinary user of OO, doing ordinary things w/ a > word processor or other office-suite software, suddenly gets > som

Re: All essay text turned to hashtags--commentary

2014-01-05 Thread Keith N. McKenna
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 TN Patriot wrote: > On Sat, 4 Jan 2014 22:59:31 -0500 "Anthony J. Rudgers" > wrote: > >> Greetings All! >> >> The present "hashtag" problem is is symptomatic of the entire OO >> software suite. An ordinary user of OO, doing ordinary things w/ >> a

Re: All essay text turned to hashtags

2014-01-05 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Hagar Delest wrote: I'm fed up with this kind of discussion, so last post in this discussion. This is not the right attitude, we have a bug that is very hard to reproduce so all the information we can get is important. https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=17677#p81363

Re: All essay text turned to hashtags--commentary

2014-01-05 Thread Martin Groenescheij
On 5-1-2014 23:23, Rory O'Farrell wrote: The question should be asked "When does OpenOffice erase the previous copy of the file?". Surely this should only be after the Save process reaches a conclusion. I can recollect from my CP/M days that one had to adopt a certain sequence in saving a file

Re: All essay text turned to hashtags

2014-01-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Hagar Delest wrote: > Top posting. > OK, you win. I'm fed up with this kind of discussion, so last post in this > discussion. > I won't ask your questions because when we ask even a basic one, very often > we get no reply (I guess that frustration is for something).

Re: All essay text turned to hashtags

2014-01-05 Thread Hagar Delest
Top posting. OK, you win. I'm fed up with this kind of discussion, so last post in this discussion. I won't ask your questions because when we ask even a basic one, very often we get no reply (I guess that frustration is for something). After almost 8 years supporting users in forums, I think t

Re: All essay text turned to hashtags

2014-01-05 Thread Rory O'Farrell
I've added your suggestion Roband Steve Ahlers to a draft document. I'll wait in case of more input and then we can consider a short questionaire and revise the wording. -- Rory O'Farrell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsub

Re: All essay text turned to hashtags

2014-01-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: > I've clipped the previous messages as this posting doesn't depend on them. > Rob suggests the following queries be put to Hashtag/file loss posters. I've > added some choices to the file save destinations. Are there other questions > that

Re: All essay text turned to hashtags

2014-01-05 Thread Steve Ahlers
See my response to Rob's post. Steve Sent from my iPad On Jan 5, 2014, at 11:15 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: > I've clipped the previous messages as this posting doesn't depend on them. > Rob suggests the following queries be put to Hashtag/file loss posters. I've > added some choices to the file

Re: All essay text turned to hashtags

2014-01-05 Thread Steve Ahlers
On Jan 5, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Hagar Delest > wrote: >> Le 05/01/2014 17:05, Rob Weir a écrit : >> >>> It would be great to ask for information like this whenever someone >>> reports this kind of problem. 150 reports without this detail are

Re: All essay text turned to hashtags

2014-01-05 Thread Rory O'Farrell
I've clipped the previous messages as this posting doesn't depend on them. Rob suggests the following queries be put to Hashtag/file loss posters. I've added some choices to the file save destinations. Are there other questions that should be asked? Once we reach agreement on the questions I'm s

Re: All essay text turned to hashtags

2014-01-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 12:43 PM, James wrote: > I have never encountered any such problem with OO. I am running Open Office > 4.1 under windows 8.1 on a Hewlett Packard HP p2-1334 desk top. > Jim Lambert > Same with me. I've been using OpenOffice exclusively since 2005, on a daily basis and I've

Re: All essay text turned to hashtags

2014-01-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Hagar Delest wrote: > Le 05/01/2014 17:05, Rob Weir a écrit : > >> It would be great to ask for information like this whenever someone >> reports this kind of problem. 150 reports without this detail are >> useless. But even 10 reports with this detail might indi

Re: All essay text turned to hashtags

2014-01-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: > On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 11:05:25 -0500 > Rob Weir wrote: > >> On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Hagar Delest >> wrote: >> > Sadly, quite nothing to do, see: >> > https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=17677 where >> > you'll

Re: Call for Comments: Apache OpenOffice Distributor Best Practices

2014-01-05 Thread Shari Lynn Smith
I think this is a good idea. For reasons already outlined. It would also give people a place to find honorable ways to get a copy instead of a cheap CD with a 3 yo version. I do think maintaining the list may be difficult. Maybe allow some type of rating? I also think some type of revoking policy

Re: All essay text turned to hashtags

2014-01-05 Thread James
I have never encountered any such problem with OO. I am running Open Office 4.1 under windows 8.1 on a Hewlett Packard HP p2-1334 desk top. Jim Lambert -Original Message- From: Rory O'Farrell Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2014 10:35 AM To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: All essay

Re: All essay text turned to hashtags

2014-01-05 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 05/01/2014 17:05, Rob Weir a écrit : It would be great to ask for information like this whenever someone reports this kind of problem. 150 reports without this detail are useless. But even 10 reports with this detail might indicate a pattern. 1) What AOO version is in use? 2) What OS versi

Re: All essay text turned to hashtags

2014-01-05 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 11:05:25 -0500 Rob Weir wrote: > On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Hagar Delest wrote: > > Sadly, quite nothing to do, see: > > https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=17677 where you'll > > see that I've recorded more than 150 occurrences of this problem. > >

Re: All essay text turned to hashtags--commentary

2014-01-05 Thread Rima Schulkind
Despite my fear of being considered too dumb to use OO, here's my experience: when a document I was working on (just trying to insert a line by hitting "return" between two lines) suddenly became all hashtag gibberish - as then did all my stored OO files - I reinstalled OO. And all was well.

Re: All essay text turned to hashtags--commentary

2014-01-05 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 16:12:20 + Rory O'Farrell wrote: > On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 17:07:27 +0100 > Josef Latt wrote: > > > > > > > Am 05.01.2014 15:06, schrieb Hagar Delest: > > > > > The power shortage is clearly a root cause. > > > Perhaps we need an old disk to test what happens when we pull

Re: All essay text turned to hashtags--commentary

2014-01-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 7:23 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: > On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 12:47:59 +0100 > Andrea Pescetti wrote: > >> Hagar Delest wrote: >> > losing the file saved last time is just unacceptable, it's a major data >> > loss (P1 in the bug tracker). This problem should be investigated as >> >

Re: All essay text turned to hashtags--commentary

2014-01-05 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 17:07:27 +0100 Josef Latt wrote: > > > Am 05.01.2014 15:06, schrieb Hagar Delest: > > > The power shortage is clearly a root cause. > > Perhaps we need an old disk to test what happens when we pull the plug > > during a save operation. > > Whats about the autorecovery func

Re: All essay text turned to hashtags--commentary

2014-01-05 Thread Josef Latt
Am 05.01.2014 15:06, schrieb Hagar Delest: > The power shortage is clearly a root cause. > Perhaps we need an old disk to test what happens when we pull the plug > during a save operation. Whats about the autorecovery function of AOO. ---

Re: All essay text turned to hashtags

2014-01-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Hagar Delest wrote: > Sadly, quite nothing to do, see: > https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=17677 where you'll > see that I've recorded more than 150 occurrences of this problem. And there were 368 reported UFO sightings in December: http://

Re: All essay text turned to hashtags--commentary

2014-01-05 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 05/01/2014 12:47, Andrea Pescetti a écrit : A random note if this can help: to study this problem, once I tried to deliberately fill the hard disk until I had a few MBytes free. Then I opened a heavy presentation file, with many images, and edited it normally, adding and removing content. A

Re: All essay text turned to hashtags--commentary

2014-01-05 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 12:47:59 +0100 Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Hagar Delest wrote: > > losing the file saved last time is just unacceptable, it's a major data > > loss (P1 in the bug tracker). This problem should be investigated as > > seriously as possible. > > No bashing needed, just look at the f

Re: All essay text turned to hashtags--commentary

2014-01-05 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Hagar Delest wrote: losing the file saved last time is just unacceptable, it's a major data loss (P1 in the bug tracker). This problem should be investigated as seriously as possible. No bashing needed, just look at the facts. The problem here is all with reproducing the bug. OpenOffice has so

Re: All essay text turned to hashtags--commentary

2014-01-05 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 05/01/2014 10:30, Aspects a écrit : With apologies, but can we get back to finding a solution to this problem rather than slagging each other (and AOO) off. I have used this suite since version 2 on OS X, Linux and Both 32 and 64-bit versions of Windows. I have only ever suffered minor glit

Re: All essay text turned to hashtags--commentary

2014-01-05 Thread Aspects
With apologies, but can we get back to finding a solution to this problem rather than slagging each other (and AOO) off. I have used this suite since version 2 on OS X, Linux and Both 32 and 64-bit versions of Windows. I have only ever suffered minor glitches with formatting and some eccentrici

Re: Very dissapointed

2014-01-05 Thread Dave Barton
Copy to Nick - Non-Subscribed Poster Original Message From: Rob Weir To: users@openoffice.apache.org Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 22:16:39 -0500 > On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 5:15 PM, nick van benthem > wrote: >> >> I deleted some text and then got it back useing control z and then the