Hi Owen,
Maybe you've already looked in this direction; but I'll mention it anyway
in case you haven't.
You might be interested to look at these two:
https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/573183274
https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/532606141
Good keywords seem to be
"100% remote"
"
https://www.linkedin.com/in/owen-thomas-84564a13b/ I think will be me.
On 8 March 2018 at 11:32, John Muczynski wrote:
> There are 933 Owen Thomas in LinkedIn !
>
>
> --
> Johnny Muczynski
> 734-262-2045
>
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 7:20 PM, Owen Thomas
> wrote:
>
>> I've been unemployed since 20
There are 933 Owen Thomas in LinkedIn !
--
Johnny Muczynski
734-262-2045
On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 7:20 PM, Owen Thomas
wrote:
> I've been unemployed since 2008. It seems that the industry is blind to
> people who want to contribute in a way that does not see them ensconced in
> a nomadic lifesty
I've been unemployed since 2008. It seems that the industry is blind to
people who want to contribute in a way that does not see them ensconced in
a nomadic lifestyle where the contributor must move involuntarily at the
whims of employers. I've hence resolved only to contribute time voluntarily
whe
Owen:
I am a currently unemployed software engineer myself. I have been in the
industry in various roles for well over 30 years but am not ready to retire.
However, I look at my current time of unemployment as an opportunity to pay
back to the NetBeans community some of what I have gained from
I quite enjoy NetBeans, and I would like to aver my wishes for it's ongoing
success. I am looking at contributing to this thread with some hesitation,
so I'll put my statements forth, and then see what becomes of what I say
before I venture more.
Contributing more than "anonymous usage data" is a
Neil C Smith wrote:
On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 at 15:08 José J. Rodriguez
mailto:jose.rodrig...@cenpalab.cu>> wrote:
Anyway, it seems to me that "capitalism" has actually proven not to be a
good role model for software development, see Windows bugs and backdoors
vs. Linux security,
I r
Ashton,
Please tone down the aggression a little bit. No one is saying that freedom
of speech is not allowed here.
Yes, with Apache NetBeans, like any other Apache project, you're allowed to
do whatever the Apache license allows you to do.
Can we all get along? :-)
Now, let's focus on getting A
Hey Neil, a small suggestion, don't tell everyone that their freedom of speech
is not allowed here and then also "welcome it" in the same paragraph. No one's
interested in staying within your little box and waiting for you to give them a
permission slip to have an idea.
Non-commercial doesn't h
On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 at 15:08 José J. Rodriguez
wrote:
> Anyway, it seems to me that "capitalism" has actually proven not to be a
> good role model for software development, see Windows bugs and backdoors
> vs. Linux security,
>
I realise you put it in quotation marks, but can we please stop
perpe
Ashton Hogan wrote:
PS: I'm aware that I'm probably on the
wrong mailing list right now
I don't think so, specially since you started off with this:
> I want NetBeans to stick around...
Joe1962
-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: use
n the NetBeans codebase is somewhere between
$100-$300/hour, depending on the developer's location.
-- Eirik
From: Ashton Hogan
Date: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 9:04 AM
To: "us...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org"
, Bertrand Delacretaz
Subject: Re: Long Live NetBeans!
In theory
rg>"
mailto:us...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>>,
Bertrand Delacretaz mailto:bdelacre...@apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Long Live NetBeans!
In theory yes but in practice as soon as someone comes along and uses a
license, they grow and apache dies. Who wants to do business with d
Many good points Joe. I want NetBeans to stick around, it's better for
everyone if there are more options otherwise we're all forced to use "the
monopoly" in the market. I think capitalism has worked great for Windows, look
how many more software options you have compared to on Linux. Sure, the
Ashton Hogan wrote:
... look at your
competitor, intellij, they're winning because they're embracing
capitalism and prosperity. They use licenses to profit and it's WORKING!
Simple as that. Follow the policy and die or embrace capitalism and
stick around. Truth hurts.
I think it's best
In theory yes but in practice as soon as someone comes along and uses a
license, they grow and apache dies. Who wants to do business with dying
dependencies? Answer: NO ONE
On Wednesday, 7 March 2018, 13:44:47 GMT, Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 2:34 PM, Geertjan Wi
On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 2:34 PM, Geertjan Wielenga
wrote:
> ...That's what Apache NetBeans is all about,
> providing software development features to serve those who want to make use
> of them...
And that use might include making money with NetBeans - consulting,
training, selling specific plugins
Just note that Apache projects do not compete with anyone or anything. They
exist to serve a community. That's what Apache NetBeans is all about,
providing software development features to serve those who want to make use
of them. As an Apache project we are explicitly not in competition with
anyth
BountySource failed for a reason, if I told you the reason, you'd just argue
with me...
I think you might be over-complicating things a bit, look at your competitor,
intellij, they're winning because they're embracing capitalism and prosperity.
They use licenses to profit and it's WORKING! Sim
On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 at 13:05 Ashton Hogan
wrote:
> Bountysource is closing down because it was a failed business, it's been
> bought out by CanYa
>
My reading of that is that it *was* closing down as a (semi) failed
business, but that CanYa are now investing in it. I was slightly surprised
seein
Bountysource is closing down because it was a failed business, it's been
bought out by CanYa
On Wednesday, 7 March 2018, 13:01:20 GMT, Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 1:56 PM, Neil C Smith wrote:
> ...Are there any thoughts / info about using something like
> Bountys
On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 1:56 PM, Neil C Smith wrote:
> ...Are there any thoughts / info about using something like
> Bountysource?...
I don't know much about Bountysource but from the ASF's side, as long
as the ASF has nothing to do with the money, contributions go through
the usual PMC vetting, t
On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 at 10:48 Ashton Hogan
wrote:
> I must say, based on my research, I truly believed commercial activity to
> be the answer to revive NetBeans. Capitalism always outperforms socialism
> in prosperity so why wouldn't capital work for NetBeans?
>
Nothing much to add to what others
So, pitch in and get involved and NetBeans won't become dormant.
This is the end of this thread for me. :-)
Gj
On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 1:09 PM, Ashton Hogan
wrote:
> Yes, I know, I work for these companies myself and I use a lot of apache
> dependencies. What I mean is that many of these GOOD p
Yes, I know, I work for these companies myself and I use a lot of apache
dependencies. What I mean is that many of these GOOD projects die out not
because they're useless but because they become dormant
On Wednesday, 7 March 2018, 12:07:15 GMT, Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
Hi,
On Wed,
Ashton,
OK, feel free to go ahead and start a new thread about setting up something
similar to tomitribe.com.
Starting that discussion would be a great contribution -- at some point
and, sure, why not start that discussion now, such an entity might be
useful.
However, for setting up that entity
Hi,
On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Ashton Hogan
wrote:
> ...I understand the Apache policy and I think it's really unfortunate. I've
> seen so many apache projects die out over the years, probably due to this
> policy...
The Apache model is not for all projects but you might have missed *a
few*
Thanks Bertrand. I don't really participate in too many mailing lists to be
honest. Every time I do, it seems to end with me being too lazy to understand
other peoples ideas so I just tend to turn them down...
I understand the Apache policy and I think it's really unfortunate. I've seen
so many
Hi,
On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 12:12 PM, Ashton Hogan
wrote:
> ...I've also tried begging for contributions, it got me nowhere, I eventually
> just settled
>for paying for them instead which moved me forward way quicker... this is just
>my
> personal experience...
Paying people to contribute to Ap
d come in handy to pay for
skills when contributors are running low though, surely?
Original Message
Subject: Re: Long Live NetBeans!
From: Geertjan Wielenga
To: users@netbeans.incubator. apache.org
CC:
Well, for the moment, the very best way to contribute back to Apa
GMT, Geertjan Wielenga
>> > com > wrote:
>>
>>
>> Nope. That excuse does not compute. :-) When you participate in NetCAT,
>> you get step by step instructions for what to test, how, and where.
>>
>> We don’t want your money, we want your
Wednesday, March 7, 2018, ashtonho...@ymail.com
> wrote:
>
> I would love to but I just don't have the necessary knowledge and skills
> to do a good job at it. If we had a piggy bank, it would come in handy to
> pay for skills when contributors are running low though, sure
...@ymail.com
> wrote:
>
> I would love to but I just don't have the necessary knowledge and skills
> to do a good job at it. If we had a piggy bank, it would come in handy to
> pay for skills when contributors are running low though, surely?
>
>
> Original Message
ashtonho...@ymail.com
wrote:
I would love to but I just don't have the necessary knowledge and skills to do
a good job at it. If we had a piggy bank, it would come in handy to pay for
skills when contributors are running low though, surely?
---- Original Message
Subject: Re
e don’t want your money, we want your time.
>
> Gj
>
> On Wednesday, March 7, 2018, ashtonho...@ymail.com
> wrote:
>
> I would love to but I just don't have the necessary knowledge and skills
> to do a good job at it. If we had a piggy bank, it would come in handy to
contributors are running low though, surely?
Original Message ----
Subject: Re: Long Live NetBeans!
From: Geertjan Wielenga
To: users@netbeans.incubator. apache.org
CC:
Well, for the moment, the very best way to contribute back to Apache NetBeans
is to be involved here:
e to but I just don't have the
> necessary knowledge and
>> skills to do a good job at it. If we had a piggy bank, it would come
>> in handy to pay for skills when contributors are running low though,
>> surely?>>
>>
>> Original Message ---
e and skills to do
a good job at it. If we had a piggy bank, it would come in handy to pay for
skills when contributors are running low though, surely?
Original Message ----
Subject: Re: Long Live NetBeans!
From: Geertjan Wielenga
To: users@netbeans.incubator. apache.org
CC:
have the necessary knowledge and skills
> to do a good job at it. If we had a piggy bank, it would come in handy to
> pay for skills when contributors are running low though, surely?
>
>
> Original Message ----
> Subject: Re: Long Live NetBeans!
> Fro
I would love to but I just don't have the necessary knowledge and skills to do a good job at it. If we had a piggy bank, it would come in handy to pay for skills when contributors are running low though, surely? Original Message Subject: Re: Long Live NetBeans!From: Gee
gt; It's available https://www.name.com/domain/search/netbeansfield.com
>
> Sent from my Huawei Mobile
>
>
> Original Message ----
> Subject: Re: Long Live NetBeans!
> From: John Muczynski
> To: ashtonho...@ymail.com.invalid
> CC: us...@netb
It's available https://www.name.com/domain/search/netbeansfield.comSent from my Huawei Mobile Original Message Subject: Re: Long Live NetBeans!From: John Muczynski To: ashtonho...@ymail.com.invalidCC: us...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org,geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.comMa
On 03/06/2018 10:50 AM, Ashton Hogan wrote:
> I, myself, as a user feel guilty benefitting as much as I do from
> NetBeans and never having to pay a dime for it
You could always assuage your guilt by joining the Community Acceptance
Testing program (NetCAT):
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/di
Maybe a NetBeans field -- BeanField -- as in a field where beans are grown.
--
Johnny Muczynski
734-262-2045
On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 12:13 PM Ashton Hogan
wrote:
> I like it, I like it a lot. Let's do it!
>
> On Tuesday, 6 March 2018, 17:01:20 GMT, Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wiele...@googl
I like it, I like it a lot. Let's do it!
On Tuesday, 6 March 2018, 17:01:20 GMT, Geertjan Wielenga
wrote:
Thanks for the enthusiasm. :-) As an Apache project, NetBeans will not be able
to earn money directly -- all money coming into Apache goes to the foundation
as a whole:
http://www
Thanks for the enthusiasm. :-) As an Apache project, NetBeans will not be
able to earn money directly -- all money coming into Apache goes to the
foundation as a whole:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/sponsorship.html
However, potentially, there could be an organization that we set up
together c
Hi all
Like all of you, I use NetBeans to build my own projects. Lately I've noticed a
particular competitor IDE being demanded more on job specs and wondered how
they managed to grow so big so quick. Turns out they sell licenses as well as
offering a free version. I, myself, as a user feel gu
47 matches
Mail list logo
