Re: [OMPI users] openmpi credits for eager messages

2008-02-05 Thread Brightwell, Ronald
> Re: MPI_Ssend(). This indeed fixes bug3, the process at rank 0 has > reasonable memory usage and the execution proceeds normally. > > Re scalable: One second. I know well bug3 is not scalable, and when to > use MPI_Isend. The point is programmers want to count on the MPI spec as > written, as Ri

Re: [OMPI users] openmpi credits for eager messages

2008-02-04 Thread Brightwell, Ronald
On Mon Feb 4, 2008 14:23:13... Sacerdoti, Federico wrote > To keep this out of the weeds, I have attached a program called "bug3" > that illustrates this problem on openmpi 1.2.5 using the openib BTL. In > bug3 process with rank 0 uses all available memory buffering > "unexpected" messages from it

Re: [OMPI users] openmpi credits for eager messages

2008-02-04 Thread Brightwell, Ronald
> > I'm looking at a network where the number of endpoints is large enough that > > everybody can't have a credit to start with, and the "offender" isn't any > > single process, but rather a combination of processes doing N-to-1 where N > > is sufficiently large. I can't just tell one process to s

Re: [OMPI users] openmpi credits for eager messages

2008-02-04 Thread Brightwell, Ronald
> > Not to muddy the point, but if there's enough ambiguity in the Standard > > for people to ignore the progress rule, then I think (hope) there's enough > > ambiguity for people to ignore the sender throttling issue too ;) > > I understand your position, and I used to agree until I was forced to

Re: [OMPI users] openmpi credits for eager messages

2008-02-04 Thread Brightwell, Ronald
> > I am well aware of the scaling problems related to the standard > send requirements in MPI. I t is a very difficult issue. > > However, here is what the standard says: MPI 1.2, page 32 lines 29-37 > > [...] I'm well aware of those words. They are highlighted (in pink no less) in on page 50

Re: [O-MPI users] direct openib btl and latency

2006-02-09 Thread Brightwell, Ronald
> > No, I assumed it based on comparisions between doing and not doing small > msg rdma at various scales, from a paper Galen pointed out to me. > http://www.cs.unm.edu/~treport/tr/05-10/Infiniband.pdf > Actually, I wasn't so much concerned with how you jumped to your conclusion. I just wanted t