Re: [O-MPI users] Re: [Beowulf] Alternative to MPI ABI

2005-04-03 Thread Joe Landman
Mark Hahn wrote: If there is an ABI then we have a fighting chance at focusing on the applications and not the ever-so-slightly-strange version of whichever flavor of MPI that they chose to use. wonderful! yes: ABI standards are good and proprietary implementations (which inherently provide

Re: [O-MPI users] Re: [Beowulf] Alternative to MPI ABI

2005-04-03 Thread Mark Hahn
> If there is an ABI then we have a fighting chance at focusing on the > applications and not the ever-so-slightly-strange version of whichever > flavor of MPI that they chose to use. wonderful! yes: ABI standards are good and proprietary implementations (which inherently provide only negative

Re: [O-MPI users] Re: [Beowulf] Alternative to MPI ABI

2005-04-03 Thread Joe Landman
Jeff Squyres wrote: I have a followup question: Who, exactly, wants an MPI ABI? I have seen a vocal few voice their opinions (both for and against). But these are not representative of Me... please, please really... I don't want 7 MPI implementations on my customers clusters anymo

Re: [O-MPI users] Re: [Beowulf] Alternative to MPI ABI

2005-04-03 Thread Greg Lindahl
On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 02:19:39PM -0400, Jeff Squyres wrote: > If so, are we therefore in agreement that a MorphMPI-like approach is a > good first step? No, because we apparently disagree about what MorphMPI is. You claim it's a lot less work than an ABI; I claim it's about the same. We both a

Re: [O-MPI users] Re: [Beowulf] Alternative to MPI ABI

2005-04-03 Thread Jeff Squyres
On Mar 26, 2005, at 7:50 PM, Greg Lindahl wrote: I guess I don't understand your reluctance to accept a MorphMPI-like solution: You have repeated your original MorphMPI attributes. I responded to them, and I don't see any sign that you've read my response. This is not the way discussions are u