Re: how to (re-?)construct grub menu?

2018-02-08 Thread Stephen Morris
On 28/6/17 11:52 am, stan wrote: On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 01:35:18 - "William Mattison" wrote: (replying to all three messages) When I boot, the bios display says it is UEFI. Am I mis-understanding what that means? Am I mis-using the term? Your system supports efi, but it seems you aren't u

Re: how to (re-?)construct grub menu?

2018-02-10 Thread Stephen Morris
On 10/2/18 5:46 pm, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 02/09/2018 09:40 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: IIRC, /boot/efi/* is created by the initial anaconda install sequence and is in place in case you use UEFI at some point in the future. Since it's only about 15MB in size, it's pretty innocuous and I wouldn't worr

Re: how to (re-?)construct grub menu?

2018-02-10 Thread Stephen Morris
On 3/7/17 12:43 pm, William Mattison wrote: That solved the more important part of the problem. The grub menu has an entry for the correct, current kernel, and it boots the correct current kernel. Thank-you, Sam. Just some info on this. The original format of your grub menu, being one line

Re: how to (re-?)construct grub menu?

2018-02-10 Thread Stephen Morris
On 7/7/17 2:25 pm, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 07/03/2017 09:58 AM, William Mattison wrote: Which is best: 1. completely remove the "video=vesa:off" from the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX line, or 2. change the "off" to "on" in that line? Just remove it.  Are you using the proprietary NVidia driver?  Is that

Re: how to (re-?)construct grub menu?

2018-02-11 Thread Stephen Morris
On 11/2/18 7:00 pm, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 02/10/2018 04:27 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 10/2/18 5:46 pm, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 02/09/2018 09:40 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: IIRC, /boot/efi/* is created by the initial anaconda install sequence and is in place in case you use UEFI at some point in

Re: how to (re-?)construct grub menu?

2018-02-11 Thread Stephen Morris
On 12/2/18 7:58 am, Stephen Morris wrote: On 11/2/18 7:00 pm, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 02/10/2018 04:27 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 10/2/18 5:46 pm, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 02/09/2018 09:40 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: IIRC, /boot/efi/* is created by the initial anaconda install sequence and is in

Re: how to (re-?)construct grub menu?

2018-02-11 Thread Stephen Morris
On 11/2/18 5:46 pm, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: Hi. On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 12:07:50 +1100 Stephen Morris wrote: Just some info on this. The original format of your grub menu, being one line per kernel, was probably coming from grubby. When kernel installs are done, the install process runs

Re: how to (re-?)construct grub menu?

2018-02-12 Thread Stephen Morris
On 12/2/18 12:48 pm, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 02/11/2018 01:19 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: Just further to this, I have checked my boot order in the bios and it is set to SSD, CDROM, UEFI: Builtin efi shell. If at boot time I display the boot menu it shows this as SSD, HARD DISK 1, HARD DISK 2

Re: how to (re-?)construct grub menu?

2018-02-12 Thread Stephen Morris
On 12/2/18 9:12 pm, Tom H wrote: On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 8:50 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 02/11/2018 01:23 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 11/2/18 5:46 pm, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: grub2-install is not needed I think. Thanks Francis, I'll check that out. Grub2-install is still req

Re: how to (re-?)construct grub menu?

2018-02-12 Thread Stephen Morris
On 12/2/18 12:50 pm, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 02/11/2018 01:23 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 11/2/18 5:46 pm, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: grub2-install is not needed I think. Thanks Francis, I'll check that out. Grub2-install is still required to update the mbr on non-efi (legacy) sy

Re: Fedora27: Ethernet interfaces set to 100MBits/sec half duplex

2018-02-12 Thread Stephen Morris
On 13/2/18 8:05 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/13/18 04:21, Terry Barnaby wrote: I have just noticed that most of my systems now have their Ethernet interfaces running at 100 MBits/s half duplex rather than the expected 1GBits/s. I think some update has caused this to happen, probably about 5 days

Re: Fedora27: Ethernet interfaces set to 100MBits/sec half duplex

2018-02-12 Thread Stephen Morris
On 13/2/18 8:43 am, Stephen Morris wrote: On 13/2/18 8:05 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/13/18 04:21, Terry Barnaby wrote: I have just noticed that most of my systems now have their Ethernet interfaces running at 100 MBits/s half duplex rather than the expected 1GBits/s. I think some update has

Re: Problems with vlc

2018-02-13 Thread Stephen Morris
On 14/2/18 12:34 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/13/18 20:51, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Sorry for the confusion. The repo name misled me into thinking it was an official Fedora one. Understandable.  IMO, they should be discouraged from using the "fedora" name for that very reason. Hi Ed, just

Re: Problems with vlc

2018-02-13 Thread Stephen Morris
On 13/2/18 11:51 pm, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2018-02-13 at 13:36 +0100, Jon Ingason wrote: Den 2018-02-13 kl. 13:14, skrev Ed Greshko: On 02/13/18 19:31, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: 3.0.0-rc5-0-gf53236af09) Oh, you mention "fedora-multimedia". Is that an actual fedora sponsored r

Re: Problems with vlc

2018-02-13 Thread Stephen Morris
On 14/2/18 7:55 am, Joe Zeff wrote: On 02/13/2018 12:44 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi Ed, just my 2 cents worth, I have the same setup as Patrick, and like Patrick I use the negativo17 repositories for Nvidia (I found rpmfusion to be not reliable enough with their binary files for nvidia), but

Re: Fedora27: Ethernet interfaces set to 100MBits/sec half duplex

2018-02-13 Thread Stephen Morris
On 13/2/18 9:42 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/13/18 05:46, Stephen Morris wrote: Just further to this, on my system when the auto negotiate box is checked the link entry and the duplex entry are removed from the dialog. Which makes perfect sense, right? If the negotiation is automatic then

Re: Fedora27: Ethernet interfaces set to 100MBits/sec half duplex

2018-02-13 Thread Stephen Morris
On 13/2/18 8:51 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/13/18 05:43, Stephen Morris wrote: I am using a home plug device to get ethernet access across the home electrical wires. The home plug device is provide 500 Mb/s, so having seen this thread I've checked my ethernet configuration and like Ter

Re: To replace fc27 Gnome with KDE spin?

2018-02-14 Thread Stephen Morris
On 15/2/18 4:33 am, Anne Wilson wrote: I mistakenly installed the Gnome Desktop from a live DVD - my SSD is small, and I want KDE, so I have burned a disk with the Spin. Problem now, though, is that Fedora appears to have turned UEFI back on, and I can't find any way of getting back to promo

Re: Problems with vlc

2018-02-14 Thread Stephen Morris
On 14/2/18 8:59 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/14/18 05:23, Stephen Morris wrote: I use Negativo17 because in the past I have found that rpmfusion were very tardy with their Nvidia binary files in keeping pace with kernel version changes. I have all the negativo17 repositories enabled and all the

Re: Problems with vlc

2018-02-14 Thread Stephen Morris
On 14/2/18 10:05 am, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2018-02-14 at 08:08 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: So from my perspective the vlc package you had problems with works fine on my system. The packages I have installed are: bash-4.4$ rpm -qa vlc* vlc-core-3.0.0-25.20180109git0c462fc

Re: how to (re-?)construct grub menu?

2018-02-14 Thread Stephen Morris
On 14/2/18 8:18 pm, Tom H wrote: On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 4:28 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 12/2/18 9:12 pm, Tom H wrote: On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 8:50 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: Also, I don't know what grub2-install would do to a GPT formatted disk. You can specify "TARGET"

Re: Problems with vlc

2018-02-15 Thread Stephen Morris
On 15/2/18 8:59 pm, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2018-02-15 at 10:21 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/15/18 10:06, Tim wrote: On 02/13/18 20:51, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Sorry for the confusion. The repo name misled me into thinking it was an official Fedora one. Ed Greshko: Understand

Re: Problems with vlc

2018-02-15 Thread Stephen Morris
On 16/2/18 6:52 am, Rick Stevens wrote: On 02/14/2018 01:43 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 14/2/18 10:05 am, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2018-02-14 at 08:08 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: So from my perspective the vlc package you had problems with works fine on my system. The packa

Re: To replace fc27 Gnome with KDE spin?

2018-02-15 Thread Stephen Morris
On 16/2/18 6:24 am, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 02/15/2018 04:15 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: Samual and Steve, When I installed Fedora I got the screen where you can turn UEFI off.  Since I wanted to promote the DVD drive over hard disk boot, I turned it off.  I thought that was permanent.  However, now

Re: To replace fc27 Gnome with KDE spin?

2018-02-16 Thread Stephen Morris
On 17/2/18 2:51 am, Anne Wilson wrote: GOT IT! - In case someone else reads this thread, this is what you need to know. If your function keys are marked in orange or blue, you need to hold down the Fn key. From the Power menu, select Restart and, with the Fn key firmly down, start tapping F2.

Re: To replace fc27 Gnome with KDE spin?

2018-02-16 Thread Stephen Morris
On 17/2/18 3:55 am, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 16:42 +, Anne Wilson wrote: On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 15:51 +, Anne Wilson wrote: Well obviously you need to hold the Fn key :-) (I know, some things are only obvious after the fact). BTW, for future reference I recommend

Re: To replace fc27 Gnome with KDE spin?

2018-02-16 Thread Stephen Morris
On 17/2/18 3:36 am, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 14:51 +, Anne Wilson wrote: On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 10:17 +, Anne Wilson wrote: This is *definitely* not necessary. The BIOS runs before the hard disk is even read, so there has to be a way to catch it. As far as I can t

Re: Problems with vlc

2018-02-16 Thread Stephen Morris
On 17/2/18 5:02 am, Rick Stevens wrote: On 02/15/2018 01:43 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 16/2/18 6:52 am, Rick Stevens wrote: On 02/14/2018 01:43 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 14/2/18 10:05 am, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2018-02-14 at 08:08 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: So fr

Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update

2018-02-18 Thread Stephen Morris
On 17/2/18 10:59 pm, Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/17/18 18:12, François Patte wrote: I just updated f27 and the new installed kernel (4.15.3-300.fc27.x86_64), sends these messages at boot time: kernel: Spectre V2 : Mitigation: Full generic retpoline kernel: Spectre V2 : System may be vulnerable to s

Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update

2018-02-18 Thread Stephen Morris
On 18/2/18 8:28 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/18/18 05:12, François Patte wrote: Le 17/02/2018 à 20:31, Ed Greshko a écrit : On 02/18/18 02:10, François Patte wrote: returns that virtualbox drivers (vboxdrv, vboxnetflt, vboxnetadp, vboxpci) and nvidia driver were not compiled with a retpoline co

Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update

2018-02-18 Thread Stephen Morris
On 18/2/18 9:14 pm, François Patte wrote: Le 18/02/2018 à 10:54, Ed Greshko a écrit : On 02/18/18 17:01, François Patte wrote: $ strings /usr/lib/modules/4.15.3-300.fc27.x86_64/extra/nvidia-340xx/nvidia.ko | grep gcc gcc version 7.2.1 20170915 (Red Hat 7.2.1-2) (GCC) OK.   I believe that RET

Re: can "more" and "less" be used effectively interchangeably?

2018-02-18 Thread Stephen Morris
On 18/2/18 7:49 pm, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 18 February 2018, Robert P. J. Day sent: currently perusing some linux courseware i'll be delivering later this month, and i'm fascinated by the early claim that the "more" and "less" commands can be used interchangeably. i don't recall th

Re: Hardware errors

2018-02-18 Thread Stephen Morris
On 18/2/18 7:45 pm, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 17 February 2018, Anne Wilson sent: They don't linger long enough to write them down, and boot.log appears to be empty (unless that's because I'm logged in as user, not root). The logging is done by the system, not you. Reading logs may req

Re: how to (re-?)construct grub menu?

2018-02-19 Thread Stephen Morris
On 20/2/18 3:51 am, Tom H wrote: On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 4:51 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 14/2/18 8:18 pm, Tom H wrote: On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 4:28 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: Thanks Tom. My statement was from having seen other threads on this list saying to not run grub2-install on an efi

Re: Hardware errors

2018-02-19 Thread Stephen Morris
On 19/2/18 3:29 pm, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 19 February 2018, Stephen Morris sent: Just following on from this, is my setup strange when I have never found boot.log to be empty and on my system it currently has mountains of entries? Oops. The machine I'm working on now does h

Nvidia Module Tainting Kernel

2018-02-19 Thread Stephen Morris
Hi,     I'm using the nvidia drivers from negativo17. I have the nvidia source module registered with dkms and it seems to be being compiled when I get a new kernel, if that is the case what do I need to do to resolve the following messages shown by "dmesg"? [   14.934074] nvidia: loading o

Re: Nvidia Module Tainting Kernel

2018-02-20 Thread Stephen Morris
On 20/2/18 8:54 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/20/18 04:41, Stephen Morris wrote:    I'm using the nvidia drivers from negativo17. I have the nvidia source module registered with dkms and it seems to be being compiled when I get a new kernel, if that is the case what do I need to do to re

Re: how to (re-?)construct grub menu?

2018-02-20 Thread Stephen Morris
On 20/2/18 7:43 pm, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 02/19/2018 12:13 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: I thought that with SB all your drivers etc had to be signed to be able to boot from a SecureBoot system, and as such Fedora were using Microsoft certificates, whereas Ubuntu was going down the path of self

Re: how to (re-?)construct grub menu?

2018-02-20 Thread Stephen Morris
On 20/2/18 7:33 pm, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 02/14/2018 01:51 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: It could be. As I understand it the default functionality updates the mbr on the specified device, and from what I've read in other threads, I thought they said that to get the grub menu displayed at boo

Re: how to (re-?)construct grub menu?

2018-02-20 Thread Stephen Morris
On 20/2/18 7:39 pm, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 02/12/2018 01:32 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: Wouldn't grub2-install be used to install the boot sectors to the /boot partition? This question is coming from the days when I formatted an entire hard disk as GPT and tried to install an older Fedora s

Re: how to (re-?)construct grub menu?

2018-02-21 Thread Stephen Morris
On 21/2/18 5:02 pm, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 02/20/2018 01:27 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 20/2/18 7:39 pm, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 02/12/2018 01:32 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: Wouldn't grub2-install be used to install the boot sectors to the /boot partition? This question is coming from the

Re: how to (re-?)construct grub menu?

2018-02-22 Thread Stephen Morris
On 22/2/18 7:43 am, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 02/21/2018 12:35 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: My question around the time I was installing, I think F26 from scratch the first time on my 2 TB hard disk that now has both Fedora and Ubuntu on it. As a trial I made the entire hard disk GPT. I then ran the

Re: Nvidia Module Tainting Kernel

2018-02-22 Thread Stephen Morris
On 20/2/18 7:41 am, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi,     I'm using the nvidia drivers from negativo17. I have the nvidia source module registered with dkms and it seems to be being compiled when I get a new kernel, if that is the case what do I need to do to resolve the following messages sho

Re: Nvidia Module Tainting Kernel

2018-02-23 Thread Stephen Morris
On 23/2/18 8:59 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/23/18 05:27, Stephen Morris wrote: From the responses I am getting it seems that the meaning of 'taints the kernel' has morphed into something else? Here is the definitive list of what taints the kernel.  This is from the 4.14 documentat

Re: Nvidia Module Tainting Kernel

2018-02-23 Thread Stephen Morris
On 23/2/18 9:04 am, Joe Zeff wrote: On 02/22/2018 01:27 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:  From the responses I am getting it seems that the meaning of 'taints the kernel' has morphed into something else? Here's my understanding of it from when I had nVidia graphics. Let's

Re: Nvidia Module Tainting Kernel

2018-02-23 Thread Stephen Morris
On 24/2/18 2:25 pm, Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/24/18 10:21, Stephen Morris wrote: On 23/2/18 8:59 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/23/18 05:27, Stephen Morris wrote:  From the responses I am getting it seems that the meaning of 'taints the kernel' has morphed into something else? H

Re: Nvidia Module Tainting Kernel

2018-02-24 Thread Stephen Morris
On 24/2/18 3:43 pm, Stephen Morris wrote: On 24/2/18 2:25 pm, Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/24/18 10:21, Stephen Morris wrote: On 23/2/18 8:59 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/23/18 05:27, Stephen Morris wrote:   From the responses I am getting it seems that the meaning of 'taints the kernel&

Re: Nvidia Module Tainting Kernel

2018-02-24 Thread Stephen Morris
On 24/2/18 11:12 pm, Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/24/18 12:43, Stephen Morris wrote: Thanks Ed. Is there any documentation anywhere on what each bit represents? You mean other than the URL I've supplied at kernel.org and the comments within tainted.c ? I haven't seen tainted.c as yet

Re: Nvidia Module Tainting Kernel

2018-02-24 Thread Stephen Morris
On 25/2/18 12:15 am, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2018-02-24 at 15:43 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: Are all these taint messages, and all the reasons for a taint message being produced saying that if we have to build our own drivers into the kernel to be able to use our hardware

Re: basic issue/question -- renaming in mass a bunch of files

2018-02-24 Thread Stephen Morris
On 25/2/18 1:03 am, bruce wrote: Hi. Have a bunch of files with the basic naming of: ztcloud_nfs_parseztaa_1__WGS_7500_001__parse.dat ztcloud_nfs_parseztaa_1__WGS_7500_002__parse.dat etc.. I'd like to simply remove the 1st part ztcloud_nfs_parsezt from the files, renaming the files to the rest

Re: Nvidia Module Tainting Kernel

2018-02-25 Thread Stephen Morris
On 25/2/18 1:21 pm, Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/25/18 09:57, Stephen Morris wrote: On 24/2/18 11:12 pm, Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/24/18 12:43, Stephen Morris wrote: Thanks Ed. Is there any documentation anywhere on what each bit represents? You mean other than the URL I've supplied at kerne

Re: Nvidia Module Tainting Kernel

2018-02-25 Thread Stephen Morris
On 25/2/18 1:21 pm, Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/25/18 09:46, Stephen Morris wrote: [   10.395281] razermouse: loading out-of-tree module taints kernel. [   10.395344] razermouse: module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel [   10.874905] nvidia: module

Yumex Getting Bus Connection/Network Issues

2018-02-25 Thread Stephen Morris
Hi,     Has anybody seen these messages before and know what is causing them, and hence why yumex is getting them? These are potentially new since the last system update. (, DBusException('Rejected send message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.107" (uid=1000 pid=3908 comm="

Re: Nvidia Module Tainting Kernel

2018-02-25 Thread Stephen Morris
On 26/2/18 1:12 am, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2018-02-25 at 13:00 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: On 25/2/18 12:15 am, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2018-02-24 at 15:43 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: Are all these taint messages, and all the reasons for a taint message bein

Re: Yumex Getting Bus Connection/Network Issues

2018-02-25 Thread Stephen Morris
On 26/2/18 7:55 am, John Pilkington wrote: On 25/02/18 20:37, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi, Has anybody seen these messages before and know what is causing them, and hence why yumex is getting them? These are potentially new since the last system update. (, DBusException('Rejected

Display Manager Lagging After Last Update

2018-02-26 Thread Stephen Morris
Hi,     I have forgotten whether I'm running gdm or kdm, and I've forgotten where to look to find out, but since the last system update I did two days ago, when the display manager is displaying the list of user who can log in, cursor movements and mouse movements lag something cronic, but wh

Re: Display Manager Lagging After Last Update

2018-02-27 Thread Stephen Morris
On 26/2/18 9:50 pm, Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/26/18 18:47, Ed Greshko wrote: ll /etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service   will point to what you're using. systemctl status display-manager also will tell you Thanks Ed, that tells me I'm using gdm. I might be getting confused with Ubuntu,

Re: Display Manager Lagging After Last Update

2018-02-27 Thread Stephen Morris
On 28/2/18 7:46 am, Joe Zeff wrote: On 02/27/2018 12:37 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: I'm not using sddm because when I tried it, I didn't like its presentation layer, and the same applies to kdm. Have you tried lightdm? If I remember correctly, I think in F25 or F26 lightdm was t

Re: Display Manager Lagging After Last Update

2018-02-28 Thread Stephen Morris
On 28/2/18 10:11 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/28/18 04:37, Stephen Morris wrote: I might be getting confused with Ubuntu, but I thought there was a .conf file somewhere that held the specification of the default display manager that could easily be edited to swap between any of the available

Re: Display Manager Lagging After Last Update

2018-03-03 Thread Stephen Morris
On 2/3/18 4:45 am, Jon LaBadie wrote: I had very slow logins from sddm and lightdm. Not as bad from gdm, but still not good. My culprit was staring an Xvnc server gnome session from my Mate autostart. Clue was 50 gnome processes I owned after logging into a Mate session. jl My issue starts

Re: cups sucks!!! Epilogue

2018-03-03 Thread Stephen Morris
On 3/3/18 9:01 am, David A. De Graaf wrote: On 02/27/18 17:04, François Patte wrote: Le 25/02/2018 à 19:42, François Patte a écrit : Bonjour. I try to configure a printer on my local network but all attemps fail. I have a printer attached to one computer on an usb port and I want to use it wi

Re: Display Manager Lagging After Last Update

2018-03-03 Thread Stephen Morris
On 4/3/18 11:37 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/04/18 08:25, Stephen Morris wrote: My issue starts with gdm, with gnome shell taking up to 800% of the cpu and causing, ctrl+alt+F2 to switch to another login to time out, and if I launch gnome from gdm the issue with gnome shell continues and causes

Re: Display Manager Lagging After Last Update

2018-03-04 Thread Stephen Morris
On 04/03/2018 13:39, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/04/18 09:57, Stephen Morris wrote: Thanks Ed, I tried Gnome under Wayland and Xorg and as documented in the problem description, even though gnome shell lags with gdm, when gnome under Xorg is started the lag disappears. The only difference in my

Re: Razer laptop Caps-lock key of the death

2018-03-04 Thread Stephen Morris
On 5/3/18 5:40 am, stan wrote: On Sun, 04 Mar 2018 16:26:10 +0100 Jeandet Alexis wrote: I tried to add XKBOPTIONS="ctrl:nocaps" in /etc/default/keyboard. This won't work for wayland. You would have to run X. I'm using Gnome with Wayland. Any idea? Stop using wayland. This is an area of

Re: Rhythmbox (podcasts) and Pavucontrol

2018-03-04 Thread Stephen Morris
On 5/3/18 12:08 am, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: * When rhythmbox finishes playing an episode, what does it play next?  If it's playing from the queue and there is another episode on the queue, that plays next. If it's the last item on the queue, it's not clear: sometimes rhythmbox play

Re: Display Manager Lagging After Last Update

2018-03-04 Thread Stephen Morris
On 4/3/18 9:02 pm, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/04/18 16:16, Stephen Morris wrote: Thanks Ed, I made that change and it rectified the lagging issues with gdm and gnome. Now to work out why dkms hasn't compiled the nvidia driver under the new kernel. FWIW, the lagging issues may be a byprodu

Re: dnf crash

2018-03-05 Thread Stephen Morris
On 5/3/18 12:55 pm, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote: While it mostly works, this specific command fails: $ dnf provides '*/Droid Sans*' This is consistent, and also happens on a second machine. Both run f27 fully updated. The following does work: $ dnf provides '*/Droid*' But this one crashes: $ dn

Re: cups sucks!!! Epilogue

2018-03-05 Thread Stephen Morris
On 6/3/18 5:24 am, David A. De Graaf wrote: On 03/03/18 20:20, Stephen Morris wrote: On 3/3/18 9:01 am, David A. De Graaf wrote: The cups system in Fedora 27 has taken a giant step backward from prior versions in that browsing no longer works automatically.  In F26, if the cups-browsed

Re: Display Manager Lagging After Last Update

2018-03-05 Thread Stephen Morris
On 5/3/18 7:36 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/05/18 04:18, Stephen Morris wrote: As a matter of interest, which version of the nvidia drivers are you using? 390.25-3   And I don't use wayland as performance in KDE is horrible From the negativo17 repositories I'm using the source co

Re: cups sucks!!! Epilogue

2018-03-06 Thread Stephen Morris
On 6/3/18 11:24 am, Tim wrote: On Tue, 2018-03-06 at 07:44 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: Have you considered implementing the other Microsoft way, which I'm not sure how to do as I'm not a network technician but which a number of organizations tend to do, and that is when the cli

Re: RH rpms, and installing using hardlinks vs symlinks

2018-03-08 Thread Stephen Morris
On 9/3/18 6:13 am, Todd Zullinger wrote: Robert P. J. Day wrote: ... ah, so the replacement of those cross-directory hardlinks with symlinks will happen in F28, is that what you're saying? The change will be in F28, yes. The few files in /usr/bin are simply copied, not symlinked. Within /usr/

Re: RH rpms, and installing using hardlinks vs symlinks

2018-03-09 Thread Stephen Morris
On 9/3/18 9:11 am, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2018-03-09 at 07:59 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: It is my understanding that currently when a file copied to any location, a physical copy is not produced, the copy is a hardlink to the original file, until such time as one of the &q

FXAA Antialias Query With Nvida Devices

2018-03-09 Thread Stephen Morris
Hi,     I use an Asus Geforce GTX 1070 nvidia card with 8 GB of memory. I am also using the nvidia driver source from negativo17 for version 390.25. Within Nvidia X Server Configuration I have selected FXAA Antialiasing within the opengl settings and that has caused an issue in my F27 impleme

Re: saned and root question

2018-03-09 Thread Stephen Morris
On 10/3/18 4:00 pm, ToddAndMargo wrote: On 03/09/2018 07:19 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote: On 03/09/2018 07:16 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote: Hi All, Okay, now this is "scary". Both xsane and Simple Scan work locally. I can not get saned to work, UNLESS, I edit /etc/group and add the following to root ro

Re: [solved] Re: saned and root question

2018-03-10 Thread Stephen Morris
On 11/3/18 8:31 am, ToddAndMargo wrote: On 03/10/2018 01:04 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote: On 03/09/2018 07:16 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote: Hi All, Okay, now this is "scary". Both xsane and Simple Scan work locally. I can not get saned to work, UNLESS, I edit /etc/group and add the following to root ro

Re: RH rpms, and installing using hardlinks vs symlinks

2018-03-10 Thread Stephen Morris
On 11/3/18 4:35 am, Gordon Messmer wrote: On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 2:57 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: No, what I was mentioning here is what I have read as standard linux functionality with copying, when a file is copied, and it doesn't matter where to, rather than create a 2nd copy of the file

Re: [solved] Re: saned and root question

2018-03-10 Thread Stephen Morris
On 11/3/18 10:15 am, Stephen Morris wrote: On 11/3/18 8:31 am, ToddAndMargo wrote: On 03/10/2018 01:04 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote: On 03/09/2018 07:16 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote: Hi All, Okay, now this is "scary". Both xsane and Simple Scan work locally. I can not get saned to work, UNLE

Re: RH rpms, and installing using hardlinks vs symlinks

2018-03-11 Thread Stephen Morris
On 11/3/18 1:09 pm, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/11/18 09:24, Stephen Morris wrote: I can't find the documentation any more, but I have found documentation on how to use copy the create the target as a hard link or as a soft link. It is possible I have incorrectly remembered what I had read,

Re: cups sucks!!! Epilogue

2018-03-11 Thread Stephen Morris
On 11/3/18 7:24 pm, Tim wrote: On Wed, 2018-03-07 at 08:00 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: I have my home multifunction device connected to my router, so it is effectively a network device. I suppose should be really specific and say, is that an ethernet (or WiFi) connection between printer and

Re: du Weirdness - how is this possible

2018-03-11 Thread Stephen Morris
On 12/3/18 10:48 am, Philip Rhoades wrote: JD, Gordon, Robert, On 2018-03-12 06:13, Robert Nichols wrote: On 03/11/2018 01:48 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote: People, I started deleting GBs of stuff from: /dev/sdb1 /backup but df did not reduce from 95% so I looked more closely and found this we

Re: du Weirdness - how is this possible

2018-03-11 Thread Stephen Morris
On 12/3/18 11:29 am, Robert Nichols wrote: On 03/11/2018 07:19 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 12/3/18 10:48 am, Philip Rhoades wrote: JD, Gordon, Robert, On 2018-03-12 06:13, Robert Nichols wrote: On 03/11/2018 01:48 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote: People, I started deleting GBs of stuff from

Re: du Weirdness - how is this possible

2018-03-12 Thread Stephen Morris
On 12/3/18 1:41 pm, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/12/18 09:41, Stephen Morris wrote: Thanks Robert, so basically what you are saying is that if you use that parameter, the output is rounded up to the nearest integer representation (in this case Gig) rather than displaying it as a fraction? For

Re: du Weirdness - how is this possible

2018-03-12 Thread Stephen Morris
On 12/3/18 10:11 pm, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2018-03-12 at 21:41 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: Thanks Ed, this functionality seems to be counter intuitive to me. Given that du shows space used in sub-directories, it seems to me the only useful output is du without any parameters.

Re: du Weirdness - how is this possible

2018-03-12 Thread Stephen Morris
On 13/3/18 8:10 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/13/18 04:26, Stephen Morris wrote: Just further to this is it a bug with du that the -a parameter which is supposed to list all files not just directories, does not list files prefixed with a '.'?: Of course not. Compare the -a opt of ls

Re: du Weirdness - how is this possible

2018-03-13 Thread Stephen Morris
On 13/3/18 9:05 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/13/18 05:47, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/13/18 05:20, Stephen Morris wrote: Thanks Ed, I'll check the doco out, I was just expecting the command to do exactly what the help info said, output the information for all files, not just a subset. It

Re: du Weirdness - how is this possible

2018-03-13 Thread Stephen Morris
On 14/3/18 7:19 am, Stephen Morris wrote: On 13/3/18 9:05 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/13/18 05:47, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/13/18 05:20, Stephen Morris wrote: Thanks Ed, I'll check the doco out, I was just expecting the command to do exactly what the help info said, output the informatio

Re: du Weirdness - how is this possible

2018-03-13 Thread Stephen Morris
On 13/3/18 9:33 am, Robert Nichols wrote: On 03/12/2018 03:26 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: Thanks Patrick, taking this a step further, it seems to me that the only parameter for du that, to me, provides the correct file size is -b as shown below. I am listing my Desktop directory via ll, du -hs

Re: du Weirdness - how is this possible

2018-03-13 Thread Stephen Morris
On 14/3/18 7:42 am, Rick Stevens wrote: On 03/13/2018 01:19 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 13/3/18 9:05 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/13/18 05:47, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/13/18 05:20, Stephen Morris wrote: Thanks Ed, I'll check the doco out, I was just expecting the command to do exactly

Re: du Weirdness - how is this possible

2018-03-13 Thread Stephen Morris
On 13/3/18 8:46 pm, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2018-03-12 at 18:25 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: On 03/12/2018 03:37 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2018-03-13 at 07:26 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: 'du' with no parameters recursively lists all the subdirecto

Re: du Weirdness - how is this possible

2018-03-14 Thread Stephen Morris
On 14/3/18 4:50 pm, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 03/13/2018 01:19 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: It just seems counter intuitive to me to have to issue another command (even if one knows of its existence) to get a command to function "properly". Having read this thread, I think you may

dnf Upgrade Produces GPG Error

2018-03-17 Thread Stephen Morris
Hi,     I've just attempted to do a sudo dnf upgrade to install the 343 updates that are available, and after downloading all the packages it got a GPG error and terminated. Has anyone else seen this and is able to provide some guidance on what I need to look at to identify why? [SKIPPED] vu

Re: dnf Upgrade Produces GPG Error

2018-03-17 Thread Stephen Morris
On 17/3/18 9:44 pm, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/17/18 18:26, Ed Greshko wrote: Package flash-plugin-29.0.0.113-1.fc27.x86_64.rpm is not signed The downloaded packages were saved in cache until the next successful transaction. You can remove cached packages by executing 'dnf clean packages'. Error:

Re: dnf Upgrade Produces GPG Error

2018-03-17 Thread Stephen Morris
On 18/3/18 1:06 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/17/18 21:51, Stephen Morris wrote: On 17/3/18 9:44 pm, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/17/18 18:26, Ed Greshko wrote: Package flash-plugin-29.0.0.113-1.fc27.x86_64.rpm is not signed The downloaded packages were saved in cache until the next successful

Re: dnf Upgrade Produces GPG Error

2018-03-17 Thread Stephen Morris
On 18/3/18 12:02 pm, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/18/18 08:41, Stephen Morris wrote: When I used dnfdragora to remove the 28.0.0 version from negativo17 and install the 29.0.0 version from Adobe's repository, it told me the Adobe version was a downgrade from the installed version, which I d

Re: dnf Upgrade Produces GPG Error

2018-03-17 Thread Stephen Morris
On 18/3/18 2:49 pm, Todd Zullinger wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Well, you very well may have the keys for Negativo17 but it is just that whoever is the maintainer missed signing the RPM as the error states. FWIW, the maintainer at negativo17.org said this error has been corrected (in the comment se

Re: Kernel installed in wrong location

2018-03-19 Thread Stephen Morris
On 20/3/18 5:54 am, CLOSE Dave wrote: Fedora 27 x86_64. When DNF installs a new kernel, it isn't going into the right place (/boot) and is not detected by GRUB. Why not? For example, after installing the most recent new kernel, I see this. [root@machine ~]# ls /boot 7725dfc225d14958a625ddaaaea5

Re: sound problem

2018-03-19 Thread Stephen Morris
On 19/3/18 9:55 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/19/18 06:44, Ed Greshko wrote: FWIW, I have a ~/.pulse directory.   Within it there is a file called 741a5ee204e44a41982409c7e07d04de-default-sink which contains Oh, strangely?, I found that on one system the directory was ~/.pulse while another has

Re: Where do I find this srpm?

2018-03-19 Thread Stephen Morris
On 19/3/18 12:54 pm, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/19/18 09:42, ToddAndMargo wrote: Mine gave the same pop up.  I selected the default storage device. I did not think of trying a music device. I do not know if we are getting the same Pop-Up.  Mine read... An MTP connection will be established to acc

Re: Kernel installed in wrong location

2018-03-19 Thread Stephen Morris
On 20/3/18 8:05 am, CLOSE Dave wrote: Further information from another attempt a few minutes ago. Could the broken pipe be the problem? What could cause that? /boot is at 52%. I don't think the broken pipe is causing the issue, I'll need to check next time there's a new kernel, as when I run t

Re: Kernel installed in wrong location

2018-03-20 Thread Stephen Morris
On 21/3/18 7:24 am, CLOSE Dave wrote: Roger Heflin wrote: I would run this and see where rpm thinks they should be since they are not in /boot rpm -qa --filesbypkg | grep -i vmlinuz Evidently, RPM thinks they should be in /boot (as I would expect): $ rpm -qa --filesbypkg | grep -i vmlinuz

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