Re: security update fails

2010-05-16 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/10/2010 09:06 PM, Len J wrote: > File not found: > > Error Type: > Error Value: Error getting repository data for installed, repository > not found > File : /usr/share/PackageKit/helpers/yum/yumBackend.py, line 3125, > in Try a yum update instead. Rahul -- users mailing list users@list

Re: Uodate confusion.

2010-05-16 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/10/2010 07:57 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > Today I saw the standard octagon symbol on my top panel indicating > updates being available. I clicked on the icon and saw a display saying > no updates were available. But the octagon symbol did not disappear. Out > of curiosity I ran yum upgrade and

Re: F13 Delayed-Please Include OpenOffice On LiveCD...

2010-05-18 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/19/2010 02:05 AM, Jesse Palser wrote: > Hi, > > Please include OpenOffice Word/Excel/PowerPoint > applications on Fedora 13 LiveCD. > > New Ubuntu 10.04 LiveCD has these applications > on the 700MB LiveCD(so is technically possible). > The Live CD has already been finalized. There will n

Re: Best backup option

2010-05-18 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/19/2010 02:20 AM, Jeff Sadino wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I was wondering what everyone's opinion is as to the best > command/program to use for backups? I don't need to preserve the > partition table, basically just copy files to a backup hard drive. There are several options and I recomm

Re: F13 Delayed-Please Include OpenOffice On LiveCD...

2010-05-18 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/19/2010 02:28 AM, Sam Sharpe wrote: > On 18 May 2010 21:46, Jesse Palser wrote: > >> That makes me sad, OpenOffice should be on LiveCD... >> > The openoffice-core RPM is 238 MB (which is compressed... and not the > only necessary component...) > > The LiveCD is 700MB > > I'm sure I a

Re: F13 Delayed-Please Include OpenOffice On LiveCD...

2010-05-18 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/19/2010 03:04 AM, birger wrote: > On Wed, 2010-05-19 at 02:11 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> The Live CD has already been finalized. There will no such changes at >> this point. Fedora includes very comprehensive locale support and we >> opted to not include O

Re: May 17-19 update borked my system

2010-05-19 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/19/2010 09:52 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Wednesday 19 May 2010 08:33 AM, Chris Tyler wrote: > >> >> Use the command: yum history info >> >> > I can't find that on F11, is this a new feature? > Yes. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or chan

Re: voice with empathy and gtalk on F12

2010-05-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/21/2010 10:42 PM, Adel ESSAFI wrote: > hi list > > I have tried empathy with F10 sucessufully. > > However, in F12 I could not communicate with voice with my google > contacts. There is a short ring and then it stops. > > do you have any experience with this? > > regards > Adel > > ps: the ve

Re: Stable packages marked as "rawhide"

2010-05-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/22/2010 10:13 PM, Vitaly Dolgov wrote: > I've seen strange in my system: > > $ yum list installed | grep rawhide | wc -l > 520 > > But they marked as "@rawhide/$releasever", not "rawhide" > > Ok. I've downloaded full file list from fedora repo mirror and checked > packages: > > $ yum list in

Re: Gnome virt-manager

2010-05-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/22/2010 10:41 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sat, 22 May 2010 10:03:27 -0700 > Paolo Galtieri wrote: > > >> When I tried running the virtual machine manager as a regular user I >> was prompted for the root password. >> > Ah, but the root password prompt comes from the > /usr/libexec/p

Re: Fedora Community Gaming - Why aren't you there?

2010-05-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/23/2010 05:18 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > Are we playing the wrong games? (So far we have played bzflag, wesnoth and > armacycles and will be playing hedgewars next Saturday. Suggestions are > welcome, but for now we are avoiding games that are essentially unplayable > with the Fedora grap

Re: Adjust remaining battery power warning threshold

2010-05-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/23/2010 08:38 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Right now, Gnome shows an alert bubble when I have somewhere between > 15 and 20 minutes remaining on battery power (varies). When there's a > couple of minutes left, an automatic shutdown gets initiated. > > I would like to adjust the thresholds. I

Re: ABRT is not reporting my bugs

2010-05-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/24/2010 08:15 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Several times I had ABRT claim that my kernel oops report was > succesfully uploaded, yet I cannot find the bug reports in Bugzilla. I > have my Bugzilla login ID and password set in the bugzilla ABRT > plugin. I don't think my oops reports are going

Re: ABRT is not reporting my bugs

2010-05-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/25/2010 03:43 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Rahul Sundaram writes: > >> On 05/24/2010 08:15 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: >>> Several times I had ABRT claim that my kernel oops report was >>> succesfully uploaded, yet I cannot find the bug reports in Bugzilla. I >

Re: ABRT is not reporting my bugs

2010-05-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/25/2010 04:12 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > Ok. Oh, and I did poke around the plugin -- it is indeed sending the > oopses to kerneloops. It's a bit misleading, since the fields I get to > fill in, before submitting the report, are Bugzilla fields, leading me > to believe that's where the oop

Re: Ext4 anomalies.

2010-05-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/25/2010 03:22 PM, George R Goffe wrote: > Howdy, > > I have had my FC12 system installed since February this year and have > experienced this particular problem twice so far. The problem does NOT > happen frequently... Just long enough for me to become complacent that > it was a fluke. > > Fi

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/26/2010 09:51 PM, Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: > On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 17:24 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > >> Voice your opinion on the websites[1] list. >> >> [1] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites >> > I'm not joining that list to say one thing: > > The n

Re: F13 image checksums

2010-05-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 12:34 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Are the sha256sum checksums of the various downloadable images (both > install and live) available anywhere other than within the downloads > themselves? If not, why not? > https://fedoraproject.org/en/verify Rahul -- users mailing list us

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 09:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > A...you poor thing. > Ed, stop being so patronizing. It doesn't help the conversation. > As someone else pointed outthe "View full list of options for > getting Fedora ... " is > incomplete

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 10:37 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > Climb down from your high horse for a moment and stop being so much a > word police and the defender of anyone with a fedoraproject.org email > address. If I (or anyone else) can't use a simple "BS" without the fear > that someone is going to go on a p

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 10:58 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > So, you are the list moderator? And who trashed anything? I don't see the need for being a list moderator to point this out but if you want me to play that role, I can take that up. > For someone who is "on guard" for the tone of the conversation to n

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 11:45 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > So far, no other 'tone' has gotten anyones attention. The website is a > disaster Rahul, you should admit it, and take steps to get it fixed if you > have that level of power. > Everyone has that level of power if they have an interest in doing

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 11:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > I don't want this to be a "best effort" affair either. Either he > undertakes the job full time or not at all. As part of the project I > would also hope that he updates the list guidelines to indicate what > words or phrases that we are not to use.

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 12:17 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I was just there 3 minutes ago Rahul, and there is still as yet, no way to > follow that site to a get torrents page, and the site > Patience. The patch was just submitted sometime back and it takes time to get it synced, translations updated e

Re: root password prompts

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 11:47 AM, Mike McCarty wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > >> IOW it remembers it by logging it. How else would it do it except by >> recording it in a file? >> > I'm not interested in argumentation. It does not remember passwords, > period. > I am not sure how you can d

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 12:32 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Then I guess I am a rude person Bruno. I am not a developer, I'm 50 years > too late for that, I wrote my ground breaking SW 15 to 30+ years ago. > You don't have to be a developer to provide constructive feedback or even contribute to improving

Re: root password prompts

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 12:09 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > I have seen claims on this list that the root password is > remembered for a small amount of time so you don't keep > getting asked. That has never worked for me, but I assumed > it was just because I was running a non-standard session > and was missing

Re: root password prompts

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 12:57 PM, Mike McCarty wrote: > All programs which prompt for, and receive, passwords in clear > text form go to extra lengths to make sure that they do NOT > "remember" passwords in any form > Mike, Refer to the notes on password caching at http://www.wlug.org.nz/SudoHowto Th

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 01:04 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > Then what precisely are you offering to do when you said " I don't see > the need for being a list moderator to point this out but if you want me > to play that role, I can take that up."? > It was a potential consideration on a best effort basis. N

Re: root password prompts

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 02:42 PM, Mike McCarty wrote: > I'm aware of that information. > > Well, it seems that I was not clear enough in my statement. > There is no lack of clarity. When people refer to sudo remembering passwords, they are certainly referring to the functionality and not the implementa

Re: How does F13 work with nvidia hardware ?

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 02:45 PM, Chris Kloiber wrote: > nouveau does work fine... If you have one screen, or two screens and > like spanning desktops (with the second to the right of the first). If > you (like I) prefer separate desktops (so I can put a virtual machine > on the second monitor) and the secon

Re: root password prompts

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 03:30 PM, Andrew Parker wrote: > I disagree. Nit picking details in this industry is essential for > progress and understanding. Defending flawed terminology that imply > security holes when they don't exist is foolish. I would like to > thank Mike for his explanations, I for one h

Re: Live CD without a CD reader?

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 07:10 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > As a matter of interest, is there any way > of running the Fedora-13 KDE Live CD > from the ISO file, on a machine without a CD reader? > You can use a USB key. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change s

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/28/2010 04:53 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > So, you are suggesting that existing users that are aware of > http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ > bookmark those pages, yes? > > What about newcomers to Linux and Fedora? How would they determine they > should bookmark these pages? > http://fedo

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/28/2010 05:12 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > "Activities" doesn't mean much to me either. The design isn't based on a single user, especially not skewed towards technical users. It is based on a survey that suggests that activities are better leading term than spins for new users. Rahul -- u

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/28/2010 05:16 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 05/28/2010 07:34 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora - click on all download methods >> >> > Oh, FWIW, I just saw that link. It was hidden from view on my

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/28/2010 05:22 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > Am I the only one who completely missed this link? > > I spent at least five minutes flipping through the pages, going back > and forth in circles, looking for the torrent link, before throwing up > my hands in disgust and jumping to Google. Depen

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/28/2010 05:33 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > So, I think you are saying that non-technical users are more likely to > go to "Activities" to see what that is all about than go to "Spins". In > other words, since they wouldn't know what "spin" means...they wouldn't > have any curiosity and click on t

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/28/2010 05:31 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Fri, 28 May 2010 07:23:50 +0800 > Ed Greshko wrote: > > >> "Activity" and a "Spin"? If so, what is the difference? If not, why >> not just have a "Spin" tab? Seems to me it would be more consistent. >> > And beside which, newbie users proba

Re: Surprises on upgrading to F13

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/28/2010 06:02 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > 4) kdm wouldn't start on first boot, > because /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/Goddard was missing. Had to > install it by hand. I'll report this to BZ if someone tells me what to > report against. > KDM would seem most appropriate. It can b

Re: Surprises on upgrading to F13

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/28/2010 06:25 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > No luck. I reinstalled and get the same error. "yum check" gives: > > $ sudo yum check > Loaded plugins: changelog, fastestmirror, merge-conf, presto, protectbase, > refresh-packagekit > rb_libtorrent-0.14.10-1.fc12.x86_64 has missing requires

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/28/2010 07:09 AM, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: > We could call it what it really is -- "Live CDs" or "Task Live CDs" or > even "Live Media". > Except that spins can be non-live media as well. There is also the differentiation that spins are generally available as torrent only. Anyway thi

Re: Surprises on upgrading to F13

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/28/2010 06:30 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > That did it. I see the "downgrade" installs the F13 version of > rb_libtorrent. > Long story but I am trying to get this fixed now http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=2214538 https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/3767#previe

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2010 07:40 AM, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > My recommendation is after the designer SIG has hashed it over, > attempt getting feedback from the intended audience, and that audience > is the users list and then the general public. > Users list is just one among several possible places. As you

Re: RSS for F13 updates

2010-05-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2010 05:11 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > What's the appropriate contact to request new feeds at: > http://planet.fedoraproject.org/infofeed/ > > Should I file an RFE in bugzilla? > webmaster AT fedoraproject.org Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe o

Re: Omega live -

2010-05-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2010 12:09 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > Is there an Omega Live version of F-13 [for USB flash drive] to be > available and if so when? > I am hoping to do a initial release before next week. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subsc

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2010 04:52 AM, David Boles wrote: > SHUT UP! > > None of you was here when this was talked about? Since October? And now > you want to bitch becasue the site does NOT fit YOUR needs. REALLY! > [Snipped] Calm down. The thread has moved towards more constructive feedback and we do wan

Re: F13 install problem (/dev/fd0 error)

2010-05-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2010 08:15 AM, Dale J. Chatham wrote: > OK, I was an idiot. I took about 20 minutes yesterday looking for a way > to disable the floppy. Today, it jumped out at me. > > Doh! > > I might suggest that timing out the attempt to query a floppy and moving > on might be a wise for the develo

Re: Desktop effects -- yeah!

2010-05-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2010 08:52 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > For the first time ever, I have eye candy, thanks to > mesa-dri-drivers-experimental, on my laptop with an NV40 chip. > > Kudos all around. This is quite an accomplishment. I assume you are referring to Compiz here. Have you tried GNOME Shell? # y

Re: Desktop effects -- yeah!

2010-05-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2010 09:02 PM, Marvin Kosmal wrote: > HI > > Is there a shot of what this would look like before I try this.. > <#yum install gnome-shell> > > I am running FC 12 yet.. Waiting for the downloads to quiet down > before I upgrade. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Gnome-shell-f13.png

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2010 10:34 PM, g wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > >> Depends on when you did it. As I indicated before, there was some >> recent changes done in response to feedback here. >> > which would have been unnecessary if web page designers

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/30/2010 10:38 AM, g wrote: > posting notification and a link to new page design to all list can help in > prevention because if someone does complain, it is a simple matter to point > out that notice was given and comments were requested. > As already pointed out, feedback was requested a

Re: Omega live -

2010-05-31 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/31/2010 09:39 PM, BeartoothBBB wrote: > On Sun, 30 May 2010 08:34:34 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: > [] > >> I look forward to it. >> > > Ditto! And will preupgrade work on it?? > Yep. As much as in Fedora. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.

Re: Installing F13

2010-06-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/30/2010 12:10 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Definitely. Best back up /home and create a new partition once and for > all. While you're at it, make sure /boot is at least 500MB in case you > want to use preupgrade in the future. > FYI, /boot is 500 MB by default in Fedora 13, precisely

Re: Installing F13

2010-06-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/30/2010 01:03 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Supposedly /boot cannot be ext4 as it's not yet supported by Grub, so I > don't know how you got that to work. > Till Fedora 11, this was the case. Fedora 12 onwards can support Ext4 in a boot partition because GRUB has been patched to sup

Re: FC13 infofeed RSS coming?

2010-06-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/26/2010 03:24 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > I normally follow updates to official releases on the infofeed RSS, since it > tells me not only what was changed but for new apps, what the app does. > Hopefully now there will be one for FC13 as well. > Websites team have added one now. Rahul

Re: RPMs in FC13 with wrong or missing release

2010-06-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/02/2010 07:25 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 07:52 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > >> On 01/06/10 23:24, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: >> --snip-- >> >>> I filed a bug report against evolution-remove-duplicates in the Fedora >>> bugzilla. But maybe it should be in the

Re: Chromium by default?

2010-06-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/01/2010 01:54 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: > Chrome/Chromium browser has more than 70 million users[3], much more > than Fedora itself, for me that proves it is a good and stable > browser. > I think that assertion is wrong. Firefox has more users but more importantly, the large majority o

Re: netinst images: What's the point?

2010-06-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/03/2010 09:01 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: > Well sure enough, I tried several different options in anaconda under > virtualbox and it asked me to init my nic every time. At this point I > don't know if it's a problem of using the livecd tools, which is > unlikely, or that it doesn't see the nic o

Re: Chromium by default?

2010-06-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/03/2010 09:35 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > > However, that is google-chrome - I have not tried spots repo for a > while but when I first tried it it was far less functional than > google-chrome - cannot tell you why (java flash problems primarily if I > recall). > You are just making my

Re: Chromium by default?

2010-06-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/03/2010 09:52 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > I dont understand your point. I am encouraging us and to advance chrome > and/or chromium - either or both of working with google to allow fedora > to distribute it - or/and advancing spots repo so it can be in regular > f14 or sooner. > > If that

Re: Chromium by default?

2010-06-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/03/2010 10:03 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > Good issues - so how do you propose fedora devs et al can engage to > help advance chrome in linux - it is in googles interest and ours. > The list of issues in that tracker comes from Spot's work with Google. If anyone is interested to help,

Re: Why are 0 karma updates still being released?

2010-06-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/03/2010 10:28 AM, Darr wrote: > I think few people are aware of the fedora-easy-karma package, let alone the > workings of bodhi. > > If a package does not get negative karma, I think the 2-week-wait / > push-to-stable treatment is reasonable. YMMV. > With the exception of critical sec

Re: Managing debuginfo repos and packages

2010-06-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/05/2010 06:10 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > I would like to keep this auto update feature of debuginfo packages, but > is there someway I could tell the plugin not to enable the debuginfo > repos for all repositories, just the ones with installed debuginfo packages? > You might have to just f

Re: Preupgrade F11 to F13. DBUS issues, gdm shows empty user list, pulse doesn't work.

2010-06-05 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/05/2010 07:34 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2010-06-05 at 15:47 +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: > >> As the title suggest, I've preupgraded a fully updated F11 to F13. >> > AFAIK this is not supported: > > "preupgrade prepares your Fedora system for an upgrade to the next > ver

Re: Preupgrade F11 to F13. DBUS issues, gdm shows empty user list, pulse doesn't work.

2010-06-05 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/05/2010 08:43 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Thanks Rahul, but which Wiki page? https://fedorahosted.org/preupgrade/ > doesn't say this, and neither do the rpm info and the README in the > package, so they would also need to be changed. And how many people are > going to look at the Rawhi

Re: Omega live -

2010-06-06 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/06/2010 11:19 PM, Beartooth wrote: > Actually even better. I clicked the gpk-viewer icon; it did its > normal thing *and* also popped a box up telling me the preupgrade was > available, and asking if I wanted it. Very nice! > > Many, many thanks! > That happens with standard

Re: Omega live -

2010-06-06 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/07/2010 12:43 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > Is Omega 13 available? If it is Google doesn't know it is. Where do > I for my copy? > I have yet to build a ISO image. If you have already have Fedora 12 installed, a preupgrade prompt will guide you through a upgrade to Fedora 13 + all the

Re: Invoking a nonexistent application in F13 causes a pause

2010-06-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/07/2010 01:22 PM, Joachim Backes wrote: > Coincidentally seeing this thread, and wondering too about this pause > effect, I removed PackageKit-command-not-found. But I get some error if > entering a command which bash does not find: > > bac...@x [~]: Bush > bash: /usr/libexec/pk-command-n

Re: Native ZFS in Fedora?

2010-06-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/08/2010 08:35 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: > Have you heard that it is now possible to compile additional ZFS > module? That way Fedora can get native ZFS support. Has anybody done > this? If you have please post step by step instructions, much > appreciated. > > Additional links: > http://www.

Re: RHEL5 binaries

2010-06-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/08/2010 09:31 PM, Roger K. Wells wrote: > I am using fedora 13, having migrated from CentOS 5.5. > My customers are using RHEL5. Is it possible to create > libraries, programs, etc (all "C" & C++) on fc 13 that > will run on RHEL5? I am considering a chroot environment > where I can install

Re: Native ZFS in Fedora?

2010-06-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/09/2010 02:03 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: >> The license incompatibility still exists and it is not a feasible >> upstream solution as a result. Unless that changes, this is going nowhere. >> > Yes, I know that it is still an issue for upstream, but there must be > fedora geeks that woul

Re: Native ZFS in Fedora?

2010-06-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/09/2010 04:07 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: >> In that case, you don't necessarily need a "native" implementation. >> There is a fuse module for that already in the repo. >> >> # yum install zfs-fuse >> > Aren't there some caveats and disadvantages when using fuse, and also > performance pe

Re: Strange message from yum.

2010-06-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/10/2010 01:10 AM, George R Goffe wrote: > Howdy, > > I'm trying to update my openoffice and am getting an out of space > message. Enclosed is the console output from my attempt and the output > of the df command with modified output to show everything available. > > Any clues/tips/hints/sugge

Re: Pulseaudio being Muted after each Reboot

2010-06-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/11/2010 01:02 AM, Jim wrote: > FC13/KDE > > After I reboot computer I have no Audio. > > I have to go to Pulseaudio Control and unmute the Output Devices. > > Why is it being muted after each reboot ? > Probably an ALSA bug. Please file a bug report with more details on your hardware.

Re: GNOME is slow after preupgrade

2010-06-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/11/2010 09:06 AM, W.H. Kalpa Pathum wrote: > Hi all, > > My laptop is acer aspire 4736Z > > I did a preupgrade from F12 to F13 recently. After that I notice a > significant delay of GNOME from the point I login and to the point > where it completes loading the desktop. Now (in F13) it takes a

Re: Support for audio on webcams

2010-06-14 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/14/2010 08:19 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > This may be related to x86_64 install, but I'm told there's an issue in > 32 bit as well. > > I have a webcam, Logitech laptop model, and I'm trying to capture to > sound and audio. > File a bug report against the kernel and cc hdegoede AT redha

Re: Klipper search box doesn't disappear

2010-06-14 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/15/2010 04:30 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote: > More fun with Klipper! > > Just as it used to do before, most of the time, it's impossible to > paste in gedit unless the first entry is reselected. > > In OOo, either using the middle mouse button or CTRL + V, what appears > are a empty spaces or

Re: Another funny update?

2010-06-14 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/15/2010 04:43 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote: > = > > So, the oldest kmod-nvidia is removed with the oldest kernel and it > will still be possible to boot with the present kernel. .. but not > with the new kernel because the new kmod-nvidia is not i

Re: Another funny update?

2010-06-16 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/17/2010 02:03 AM, JD wrote: > > Seems to me this is a moot point. > Each distro, and in fact each repo, builds it's packages which end up in > some or many cases with different required dependencies from same > package built on some other repo or distro - depending on what was > installed

Re: Omega live -

2010-06-17 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2010 12:09 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > Is there an Omega Live version of F-13 [for USB flash drive] to be > available and if so when? > Feel free to test and provide some feedback http://omega.dgplug.org/13-RC/Live/ Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To u

Re: Thunderbird 3.1

2010-06-19 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/19/2010 07:59 PM, Steven Stern wrote: > I see that Thunderbird 3.1 RC2 is in the rawhide repository. When > Thunderbird 3.1 is release, will it become part of Fedora 13 or will it > be held until Fedora 14? > > It appears that 3.1 is faster and more reliable than 3.0.4. > Unlikely. Newe

Re: Another funny update?

2010-06-21 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/22/2010 12:41 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Bruno Wolff III > wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 16:25:38 -0400, > Marcel Rieux mailto:m.z.ri...@gmail.com>> > wrote: > > > > Another thing that would be nice is an ho

Re: yum 'shortcomings'?

2010-06-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/23/2010 04:11 PM, Alexander Volovics wrote: > Hello > > I recently installed gnome-commander. > Because gnome-commander needs 'meld', 'exiv2-libs', 'gnome-vfs2-smb' > these were also installed. > > Today I removed gnome-commander with 'yum remove' but yum did not > include (or even suggest) m

Re: differrence between 'yum remove' and 'yum erase'

2010-06-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/23/2010 06:22 PM, Alexander Volovics wrote: > 'info yum' does not supply any more details with respect to > remove/erase then 'man yum'. Erase is just a alias to remove. Zero differences. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription opti

Re: yum 'shortcomings'?

2010-06-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/23/2010 06:19 PM, Alexander Volovics wrote: > I have never used yum history before. > The man page is not completely clear on how it should be used > so I will have to try it out (and hope I make no mistakes, it seems > to be pretty exacting). > > It does look like it might be more precise th

Re: differrence between 'yum remove' and 'yum erase'

2010-06-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/23/2010 06:30 PM, Alexander Volovics wrote: > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 06:24:57PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > >> On 06/23/2010 06:22 PM, Alexander Volovics wrote: >> >>> 'info yum' does not supply any more details with r

Re: yum 'shortcomings'?

2010-06-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/23/2010 06:49 PM, Alexander Volovics wrote: > I just tried it and as I suspected it is a bit terse. > > What if you have 2 entries for the same date with the 'same' action > and only different times and you can't remember which one you > performed first. > > I know you can look in the system

Re: yum 'shortcomings'?

2010-06-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/23/2010 07:05 PM, Alexander Volovics wrote: > My education continues :) > Bit shamefull me being a Red Hat/Fedora user since Red Hat 2 ! > > A combination of age and things having gotten to easy I suspect. > > Thanks again Rahul. > Age doesn't gain you wisdom when the world around you co

Re: get-fedora export restrictions

2010-06-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/24/2010 08:10 AM, Peter Larsen wrote: > According to the get-fedora page, the following restrictions are in > effect when downloading/distributing Fedora: > Do redirect any questions about this to the legal list. Noone here can authoritatively answer questions about this on users list.

Re: Yum update

2010-06-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/26/2010 01:08 PM, Mike Guilmot wrote: > Getting errors when trying to update F13 > Can't seem to find out which one is giving the problem. Anybody has an idea ? > > Error: Package: nautilus-sendto-2.28.4-1.fc13.i686 > (@anaconda-InstallationRepo-201005130056.i386) >Requires: libe

Re: F13 system-config-services crash

2010-07-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/08/2010 12:26 PM, JB wrote: > Hi, > I noticed in system-config-services graphical display two unneeded "services" > that were leftover from livecd installation, namely livesys and livesys-late. > They show up in system-config-services, but they should not; they could not be > stopped/disable

Re: The quietness of preupgrade

2010-07-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/08/2010 03:08 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I probably will; > but I'm surprised no-one has agreed with me (as the OP) > that the pauses in preupgrade are astonishingly long. Noone other than the developer of the program needs to agree for it to change. Filing it in bugzilla with more detail

Re: Minimum Required RPM Packages for Running Fedora

2010-07-14 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/14/2010 05:32 PM, siavash ghiasvand wrote: > Dear JB > > >> have you looked into >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/LiveCDHowTo >> Why not create that barebone live cd and see what good, bad, and ugly went >> into >> it ? >> > Thanks, I will take a look at it now, may be

Re: Minimum Required RPM Packages for Running Fedora

2010-07-14 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/14/2010 08:18 PM, siavash ghiasvand wrote: >> Be specific. Which packages? Why can't you use kickstart? >> >> Rahul >> > Each package which is NOT essential for booting the system. > Some of those important but not essential packages are: > - passwd > - openssh > - sudo > - dirmngr > -

Re: Minimum Required RPM Packages for Running Fedora

2010-07-14 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/14/2010 08:30 PM, siavash ghiasvand wrote: >> You didn't answer why you can't use kickstart and pick your own set of >> packages? >> >> Rahul >> > Cause first I need to know what are those essential packages! after > that, as you and other guys said I can use kickstart to picking up > th

Re: Who's moderating this forum?

2010-07-15 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/16/2010 03:00 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote: > > > I don't understand how come nobody responsible for this group tries to > make discussions move forward to better results for Red Hat, whether > it be about uninstalling Nvidia drivers or OOo not offering basic > features that Red Hat should rely on

Re: OT: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

2010-07-15 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/15/2010 01:55 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote: > I often type voyels too fast so I'd like errors such as "teh" to be > automatically corrected to "the". I searched the web but all the > solutions I found involved using menu entries that are not in OOo > 3.1.1. Does anybody know how to do this? Refer

Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

2010-07-15 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/16/2010 04:43 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote: > > Meanwhile, if Red Hat wants to continue shipping its product with such > an obvious bug, so be it. That's unless Red Hat is well aware of the > bug and ships it with Fedora to entice users to use their commercial > version. (Why is it that I believe t

Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

2010-07-15 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/16/2010 05:27 AM, Christofer C. Bell wrote: > Is there any word (that you've heard by rumor) that indicates what the > possible immediate intellectual property problem may be? The bug > report doesn't specify anything. I have no specific knowledge in this case but perhaps patents Rahul --

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