Re: Organising photos visually

2018-01-30 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2018-01-31 at 07:45 +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: > > Dragging the files 'in the right order' doesn't affect their names. The > > script loops over the files in lexical order, not in the order I've > > dragged them, so the final order won't change. > > The idea is that the script picks up

Re: Organising photos visually

2018-01-30 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2018-01-30 at 14:07 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > > The idea is that the script picks up the files as fast as you drag them. > > You might need to shrink the "sleep 1" to "sleep 0.1", or perhaps > > better, to not sleep at all _if_ any files were run on that loop. The > > sleep is there to s

Re: how to audit chmod syscall system wide? a wired problem of home directory group write permission got set

2018-02-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2018-01-31 at 17:36 -0700, stan wrote: > On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 20:06:38 + (UTC) > "mr.cheng" wrote: > > > I checked all bash_history and system logs, didn't see any explicit > > bash call of "chmod g+w ..." ; so I suspect some software is calling > > by chmod syscall, Is this a reply

Re: Testers for LCD Panel Self Refresh on laptops with Intel graphics wanted

2018-02-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2018-02-01 at 12:34 +0100, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi All, > > For the "Improved Laptop Battery Life" feature: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ImprovedLaptopBatteryLife > > I'm working on for Fedora 28 I would like to also try and enable > Panel Self Refresh on laptops with Intel

Re: Organising photos visually

2018-02-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2018-01-31 at 07:45 +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: > Another untested version with a fix for his bug and a fix for the sleep thing: > >cd your-staging-directory >n=1 >while : >do > moved= > for f in *.jpg > do >[ -s "$f" ] || continue >while :

Re: how to audit chmod syscall system wide? a wired problem of home directory group write permission got set

2018-02-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2018-02-01 at 21:32 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 02/01/18 21:21, Berend De Schouwer wrote: > > On Thu, 2018-02-01 at 10:50 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > On Wed, 2018-01-31 at 17:36 -0700, stan wrote: > > > > On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 20:06:38 +0

Re: Organising photos visually

2018-02-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2018-02-02 at 09:48 +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 01Feb2018 12:04, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > See how that logic feels to you. > > > > Just an update on this. I tried a lightly-modified version of your > > script and got it to work. How

Re: Riddle me this: grep / regx experts

2018-02-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2018-02-02 at 11:04 -0500, R. G. Newbury wrote: > # grep -h '[0-9]*s[0-9]*">' temp > Returns the example line with the 's[0-9]">' highlighted. In grep, * matches any number of instances, including 0. You want to use + rather than * to guarantee at least one digit. poc

Re: Riddle me this: grep / regx experts

2018-02-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2018-02-02 at 12:32 -0500, R. G. Newbury wrote: > > Thanks to all for the quick responses. I *tried* to RTFM but that was > > not clear, even on a re-read. I took [0-9]* as multiple instances of > [0-9] but NOT zero instances.. From 'man grep': Repetition A regular expression m

Re: gedit/editor with autosave

2018-02-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2018-02-05 at 16:06 -0500, Alex wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 3:45 PM, Garry Williams wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:56 PM, Alex wrote: > > > Is there a simple, lightweight graphical editor that I can replace > > > gedit with and has more features to autosave and prevent l

Re: KDE doesn't start after upgrade to Fedora 27

2018-02-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2018-02-07 at 11:24 +0530, Prasad K wrote: > >startkde: Shutting down... > >kdeinit5_wrapper: Warning: connect(/run/user/1000/kdeinit5__0) failed: : > > No such file or directory > >Error: Can not contact kdeinit5! > >xprop: unable to open display ':0' > >xprop: unabl

Re: KDE doesn't start after upgrade to Fedora 27

2018-02-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2018-02-07 at 21:26 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 02/07/18 18:31, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2018-02-07 at 11:24 +0530, Prasad K wrote: > > > >startkde: Shutting down... > > > >kdeinit5_wrapper: Warning: connect(/run/user/1000/k

Re: KDE doesn't start after upgrade to Fedora 27

2018-02-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2018-02-07 at 21:46 -0800, Dave Close wrote: > "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > > > You might want to post on the Fedora KDE list for this kind > > of problem. > > I may try that. But the XIO errors and the failure to open the > display made me th

Re: editing write-protected document in LibreOffice

2018-02-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 11:27 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Hi, > > I have been trying to edit a .docx document in LibreOffice that says that it > is write-protected. Nothing I have tried (eg: enable Form Design on View, or > Format -> Sections "Editable in Read-only document" seems to work. I get

Re: editing write-protected document in LibreOffice

2018-02-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 13:19 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > Check the permissions. Depending on who owns the file, you may have to > > change them from a CLI as root. > > But I can remove the file, using rm. That's a completely separate thing. To remove a file you only need write permission on

Re: editing write-protected document in LibreOffice

2018-02-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 13:19 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > Can you cut and paste the contents into a new document? Then you could > > edit the new document, delete the old one, and name the new document > > with the old name. > > Seems like that ought to work. > > --doug > > No, this does not h

Re: CUPS - Some apps can't print

2018-02-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2018-02-09 at 19:49 +1100, Philip Rhoades wrote: > Hmm . . not sure what happened - I just did what I normally do (which > used to work): > > - reply to the list > > - change the subject appropriately > > - edit out extraneous digest stuff and add my response to the > appropriate threa

Re: Shotwell and photo manager in general

2018-02-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2018-02-10 at 15:52 +1100, Timothy Ward wrote: > Hi, > > It is unfortunate that with the use of mobile phones being used more > amd more with their camera apps that Linux Photo managers have not been > fully udgraded to download the camera images from smart phones easy, > although some do

Re: rsync question

2018-02-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2018-02-10 at 13:31 -0500, bruce wrote: > I'm interested in examining the list as the files are transferred.. rsync -v ... (more than one -v gives more verbosity) poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send a

Problems with vlc

2018-02-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
Some time in recent weeks vlc stopped working for me, i.e. it will no longer play .avi, .mp4 or .mkv files but just lists a continuous stream of errors to the console (see below). I'm currently on: $ rpm -qa vlc\* vlc-extras-3.0.0-25.20180109git0c462fc.fc27.x86_64 vlc-core-3.0.0-25.20180109git0c46

Re: Problems with vlc

2018-02-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2018-02-13 at 08:10 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 02/13/18 07:58, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Some time in recent weeks vlc stopped working for me, i.e. it will no > > longer play .avi, .mp4 or .mkv files but just lists a continuous stream > > of errors to th

Re: Problems with vlc

2018-02-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2018-02-13 at 13:36 +0100, Jon Ingason wrote: > Den 2018-02-13 kl. 13:14, skrev Ed Greshko: > > On 02/13/18 19:31, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > 3.0.0-rc5-0-gf53236af09) > > > > Oh, you mention "fedora-multimedia". Is that an actual fedora s

Re: fed/centos - recovery app/process???

2018-02-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2018-02-13 at 09:58 -0500, bruce wrote: > Hey.. > > In the event of a "crash" is there some kind of process/app for > Fed/Centos that can be used to "recover" the entire working > environment of the server/box. As the only user it would be "nice" to > be able to simply run something which

Re: Problems with vlc

2018-02-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2018-02-14 at 08:08 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > So from my perspective the vlc package you had problems with works fine > on my system. > > The packages I have installed are: > > > bash-4.4$ rpm -qa vlc* > vlc-core-3.0.0-25.20180109git0c462fc.fc27.x86_64 > vlc-3.0.0-25.20180109git0c4

Re: Problems with vlc

2018-02-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2018-02-15 at 10:21 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 02/15/18 10:06, Tim wrote: > > On 02/13/18 20:51, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > Sorry for the confusion. The repo name misled me into thinking it > > > > was an official Fedora one. > > >

Re: Problems with vlc

2018-02-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2018-02-15 at 23:19 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 15/2/18 8:59 pm, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Thu, 2018-02-15 at 10:21 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > On 02/15/18 10:06, Tim wrote: > > > > On 02/13/18 20:51, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >

Re: fed/centos - recovery app/process???

2018-02-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2018-02-15 at 14:37 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 02/15/2018 12:20 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > > "Crash save" files weren't unique to DG systems, BTW. DEC VAX/VMS did > > it, MAI/Basic4 did it, Tandem did it...lots of systems did it (usually > > using different nomenclatures). Heck, vi/vim does

Re: fed/centos - recovery app/process???

2018-02-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2018-02-15 at 20:53 -0500, Fred Smith wrote: > On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 12:02:28AM +0000, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Thu, 2018-02-15 at 14:37 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > > > On 02/15/2018 12:20 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > > > > "Crash save" fil

Re: To replace fc27 Gnome with KDE spin?

2018-02-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 10:17 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > I have tried Esc, Fn 1-12 and Del. In each case I have selected a reboot, > then hit the selected key, holding it down throughout the reboot process. > None of them gave me the required screen - all with just the choice between > the exis

Re: To replace fc27 Gnome with KDE spin?

2018-02-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 15:51 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > GOT IT! - In case someone else reads this thread, this is what you need to > know. > > If your function keys are marked in orange or blue, you need to hold down the > Fn key. From the Power menu, select Restart and, with the Fn key firmly

Re: To replace fc27 Gnome with KDE spin?

2018-02-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 14:51 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 10:17 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > > This is *definitely* not necessary. The BIOS runs before the hard disk > > is even read, so there has to be a way to catch it. As far as I can > > tell you haven't so far mention

Re: To replace fc27 Gnome with KDE spin?

2018-02-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 16:42 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 15:51 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > > Well obviously you need to hold the Fn key :-) (I know, some things are > > only obvious after the fact). > > > > BTW, for future reference I recommend you join this list and us

Re: Hardware errors

2018-02-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2018-02-17 at 13:00 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > Hi. After a long time away from Linux I'll be asking some newby-type > questions, so I'll apologise from the start. > > I have just installed the KDE Spin of FC27 to a four-year-old Lenovo > G510 laptop, with a 120GB drive installed. Dring

Re: Hardware Errors

2018-02-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2018-02-17 at 17:33 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > On 17/02/2018, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Try 'journalctl -k -b' to see kernel > > messages since the most recent boot > > (Fabricated quote, as I never received your message in TBird. Sorted >

Re: A question about Virtuality

2018-02-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2018-02-21 at 15:04 +, John Pilkington wrote: > I have just acquired an i3 box with 2*500 GB disks, 4 GB ram and > Windows10, essentially 'because it was there' and because my grandson's > homework typically assumes an M$ environment. Fact. > > In the past I would have installed Fed

Re: Nvidia Module Tainting Kernel

2018-02-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2018-02-24 at 15:43 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > Are all these taint messages, and all the reasons for a taint message > being produced saying that if we have to build our own drivers into the > kernel to be able to use our hardware, and hence put us into the > situation of potentially

Re: basic issue/question -- renaming in mass a bunch of files

2018-02-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2018-02-24 at 09:03 -0500, bruce wrote: > Hi. > > Have a bunch of files with the basic naming of: > ztcloud_nfs_parseztaa_1__WGS_7500_001__parse.dat > ztcloud_nfs_parseztaa_1__WGS_7500_002__parse.dat > etc.. > > I'd like to simply remove the 1st part ztcloud_nfs_parsezt from the > files,

Re: basic issue/question -- renaming in mass a bunch of files

2018-02-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2018-02-24 at 16:38 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2018-02-24 at 09:03 -0500, bruce wrote: > > Hi. > > > > Have a bunch of files with the basic naming of: > > ztcloud_nfs_parseztaa_1__WGS_7500_001__parse.dat > > ztcloud_nfs_parsez

Re: basic issue/question -- renaming in mass a bunch of files

2018-02-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2018-02-24 at 08:55 -0800, John Wendel wrote: > On 02/24/2018 08:38 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sat, 2018-02-24 at 09:03 -0500, bruce wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > > > Have a bunch of files with the basic naming of: > > >

Re: More color problems -

2018-02-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2018-02-24 at 11:45 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 02/24/2018 01:53 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > > No, a reboot did not do it ... > > OK, try adding this to .bashrc and source it: > > alias ls=ls > > That overrides the default alias that "helpfully" adds the colors. The canonical way to do thi

Re: basic issue/question -- renaming in mass a bunch of files

2018-02-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2018-02-24 at 09:41 -0900, Fred Erickson wrote: > On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 18:02:39 + > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > ..snip > > > > > > There appears to be 2 different "rename" programs out in the > > > world. The Fedora rename us

Re: More color problems -

2018-02-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2018-02-24 at 14:00 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 02/24/2018 01:55 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sat, 2018-02-24 at 11:45 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > > > On 02/24/2018 01:53 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > > > > No, a reboot did not do it ... > > &g

Re: basic issue/question -- renaming in mass a bunch of files

2018-02-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2018-02-24 at 23:40 +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 13:14:49 -0500 > Tom H wrote: > > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 9:03 AM, bruce wrote: > > > > > > Have a bunch of files with the basic naming of: > > > ztcloud_nfs_parseztaa_1__WGS_7500_001__parse.dat > > > ztcloud_nf

Re: Nvidia Module Tainting Kernel

2018-02-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2018-02-25 at 13:00 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 25/2/18 12:15 am, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sat, 2018-02-24 at 15:43 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > > > Are all these taint messages, and all the reasons for a taint message > > > being produced

Re: OT: force re-download in clasw-mail

2018-02-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2018-02-26 at 14:14 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 02/26/18 12:24, stan wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 00:52:31 + (UTC) > > Amadeus WM wrote: > > > > > That's what I've been looking for, seems to be working. Thank you > > > very much! > > > > You're welcome. > > > > > I'm glad I was

Re: OT: force re-download in clasw-mail

2018-02-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2018-02-26 at 21:36 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 02/26/18 20:45, Amadeus WM wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 14:14:44 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > > > On 02/26/18 12:24, stan wrote: > > > > On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 00:52:31 + (UTC) Amadeus WM > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > That's what

Re: OT: force re-download in clasw-mail

2018-02-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2018-02-26 at 17:35 +0100, wwp wrote: > > Claws at one time used (3) as the default. Not sure if it still does. I > > remember pointing out to the devs that IMAP mail was originally > > designed to use (2) so that should be the default (as it is in > > Evolution) since it's a) it's more eff

Re: OT: force re-download in clasw-mail

2018-02-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2018-02-26 at 20:22 +0100, wwp wrote: > > For the moment all I can track down is > > http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1866#c2 > > Well, as I could check, your +1 in your previous message was based on > your experience with Claws Mail, 9 years ago. It's basi

Re: Fedora 27 + Gnome 3.26.2: How to add a BRIDGE on VLAN interface with Gnome Network Control Panel ...

2018-02-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2018-02-28 at 15:57 +0100, Dario Lesca wrote: > > It's not a bug since that has never been a supported function for the > > Gnome control panel. > > In this case would be useful put a button "Advanced Options" into Network > Gnome Control Panel that start nm-connection-editor. > > > Y

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

2018-03-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2018-03-01 at 13:22 +0100, Michal Schorm wrote: > Your wishes has been granted. First of all, this message violates https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mail ing_list_guidelines#If_You_Are_Replying_to_a_Message Secondly, it appears to be a reply to a message which is not on the mailing list. T

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

2018-03-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2018-03-01 at 11:38 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 03/01/2018 07:31 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Secondly, it appears to be a reply to a message which is not on the > > mailing list. > > The original sender is using yahoo and you are using gmail. > >

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

2018-03-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2018-03-01 at 16:09 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 03/01/2018 03:23 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I'm not sure what your point is. Why would our respective mail > > providers matter? List traffic is sent out by the list software, not by > > the OP'

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

2018-03-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2018-03-02 at 08:09 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 03/02/18 07:23, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I'm not sure what your point is. Why would our respective mail > > providers matter? List traffic is sent out by the list software, not by > > the OP's provi

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

2018-03-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2018-03-02 at 10:49 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 12:00:14PM +0000, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Is there any other justification for it? And why do messages to this > > list no longer include a URL pointing at the archives (probably not &

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

2018-03-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2018-03-02 at 11:08 -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > So a hidden link which is not clickable. However I wasn't in fact > > talking about a link to the individual message, which IIRC we never had > > in the old version either. I mean a static pointer to the Archives page > > or more usefully to

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

2018-03-04 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2018-03-04 at 08:57 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 04:21:43PM +0000, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > talking about a link to the individual message, which IIRC we never had > > in the old version either. I mean a static pointer to the Archi

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

2018-03-04 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2018-03-04 at 12:06 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sun, Mar 04, 2018 at 02:46:12PM +0000, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > Putting that in the standard list message footer seems reasonable. > > > > If you can influence that, thanks. > > I'll se

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

2018-03-04 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2018-03-04 at 18:58 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sun, Mar 04, 2018 at 05:23:44PM +0000, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > If you can influence that, thanks. > > > > > > I'll see what I can do. I can't see anything in the mailing list c

Re: dnf crash

2018-03-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2018-03-05 at 22:21 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 03/05/18 20:46, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote: > > On 05/03/18 23:35, Tim wrote: > > > On Mon, 2018-03-05 at 12:55 +1100, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote: > > > > While it mostly works, this specific command fails: > > > > > > > > $ dnf provides '*/Droid San

Re: dnf crash

2018-03-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2018-03-06 at 08:04 +1100, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote: > > That works, but '*/Droid\ Sans*' (i.e. with a literal space) segfaults. > > A '\' inside single quotes is *not* an escape, use "*/Droid\ Sans*" for that. Maybe so, but it still segfaults ... poc ___

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

2018-03-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2018-03-05 at 21:39 +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > On Sun, 4 Mar 2018 08:57:03 -0500 > Matthew Miller wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 04:21:43PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > talking about a link to the individual message, which IIRC

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

2018-03-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2018-03-06 at 01:45 +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > On Tue, 06 Mar 2018 00:05:05 + > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > On Mon, 2018-03-05 at 21:39 +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > > > On Sun, 4 Mar 2018 08:57:03 -0500 > > > Matthew Miller

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

2018-03-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2018-03-06 at 02:30 +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > But perhaps it is a good idea to put all user-relevant information in > that very first welcome message from this list after subscribing to it: Naturally that info should be there, but don't count on people actually reading it. I modera

Re: RH rpms, and installing using hardlinks vs symlinks

2018-03-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2018-03-09 at 07:59 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > It is my understanding that currently when a file copied to any > location, a physical copy is not produced, the copy is a hardlink to the > original file, until such time as one of the "copies" is changed and > then both become physical

Re: RH rpms, and installing using hardlinks vs symlinks

2018-03-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2018-03-11 at 19:59 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 11/3/18 1:09 pm, Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 03/11/18 09:24, Stephen Morris wrote: > > > I can't find the documentation any more, but I have found documentation > > > on how to > > > use copy the create the target as a hard link or as a so

Re: du Weirdness - how is this possible

2018-03-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2018-03-12 at 21:41 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > Thanks Ed, this functionality seems to be counter intuitive to me. Given > that du shows space used in sub-directories, it seems to me the only > useful output is du without any parameters. 'du' with no parameters recursively lists all t

Re: du Weirdness - how is this possible

2018-03-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2018-03-13 at 07:26 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > > 'du' with no parameters recursively lists all the subdirectories and > > their sizes, along with the grand total. When applied to my home > > directory, I get over 30,000 lines of output. That's almost never what > > I want. My usual call

Re: du Weirdness - how is this possible

2018-03-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2018-03-12 at 18:25 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 03/12/2018 03:37 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Tue, 2018-03-13 at 07:26 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > > > > 'du' with no parameters recursively lists all the subdirectories and > > &

Re: du Weirdness - how is this possible

2018-03-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2018-03-14 at 08:21 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > What I hadn't realized until Patrick mentioned it, was the significance > of the * in the path specification. I hadn't realized that with using > the * not only did it cause files prefixed with a '.' to be ignored but > it also causes di

Re: du Weirdness - how is this possible

2018-03-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2018-03-13 at 17:20 -0700, jdow wrote: > Hidden files or directories are hidden. What part of that are some people > missing. You have to tell the system to expose those "hidden" items for many > operations such as listing files, which this abuse of "du" is showing. The system has no con

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

2018-03-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2018-03-14 at 13:10 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 03/14/2018 12:58 PM, William Mattison wrote: > > Using the "View source" function, here between the lines of '=' is the > > header (copied and pasted): [...] Just so you both know, only Samuel's side of this conversation is reaching me v

Re: [Trust] I spent a lot of time driving today

2018-03-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2018-03-14 at 12:23 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/14/2018 12:13 PM, Zachary Snyder wrote: > > Gotcha, well Im sorry to hear that. Might have saved the list from a > > second pointless email lol. > > Yes, but at least I trim the boilerplate off of the bottom before > replying, unlike mos

Re: What do you open .mobi files with??

2018-03-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2018-03-14 at 20:18 +, Beartooth wrote: > Something on sourceforge has been recommended to me, but I try to > stick to things that dnf can install. Surely there must be some Fedora- > native ebook reader! Calibre is the go-to package for all your ebook needs, including format co

Re: Wow, KVM is great :-)

2018-03-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2018-03-14 at 18:51 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 22:20:07 - > Raman Gupta wrote: > > > Running in the default NAT mode > > I always use the "bridge" networking. That way the KVM looks > like just another machine on my local network, gets an IP from > the DHCP on my

Re: Wow, KVM is great :-)

2018-03-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2018-03-14 at 16:57 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 03/14/2018 04:17 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I do that literally every day, for Windows gaming. It took some effort > > to set up but it works a treat. A good starting point is: > > > > https://vfio

Re: alternative to skype

2018-03-18 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2018-03-17 at 22:48 -0400, fred roller wrote: > gmail has video connect (both might need an account but so does skype) and > the drive would allow shared files. Google voice is a free service which > does video as well I believe. Google Voice only exists in the US. Google Hangouts is a

Re: alternative to skype

2018-03-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2018-03-18 at 11:03 -0700, Mike Wright wrote: > On 03/18/2018 09:32 AM, fred roller wrote: > > > Does Google Hangouts allow international free phone number calling? > > > > AFAIK it is just a private chat set up by email identifier so no phone. > > In essence then yes. The Google Voice

Re: [LEARNING OUTCOME] Wi-Fi WPA Hacking Tool is Totally Useless on New Wireless Routers

2018-03-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2018-03-19 at 15:04 +0800, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > I am sharing my learning outcomes. You describe your experience with a different Linux distro, using some hacking tool to which you give no reference. How is this related to Fedora? poc ___

Re: alternative to skype

2018-03-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2018-03-20 at 00:09 +, Néstor wrote: > You can actually use Google voice in another country as long as you have > access to the internet. > > Sometimes if I am I another and I need to call someone in that country I will > go to a place that has WiFi and make the call like if i was i

Re: alternative to skype

2018-03-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2018-03-20 at 08:29 -0400, fred roller wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 7:00 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > On Tue, 2018-03-20 at 00:09 +, Néstor wrote: > > > You can actually use Google voice in another country as long as you ha

Re: alternative to skype

2018-03-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2018-03-21 at 08:10 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > Just my 2 cents worth on this, relative to the top posting, different > countries have different requirements, so you may have to keep reminding > people that this list has a different convention. I have Thunderbird > configured to top p

Re: empty messages from fedora users list. [CLOSED]

2018-03-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2018-03-20 at 15:47 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > Finally, there's the MUA (Mail User Agent), which is essentially what > end users use to view the mail. There's tons of those, but most common > I've found on Linux are Thunderbird, claws-mail, mutt, Balsa, KDEMail, > etc. Note that it is the

Re: Top-posting & list guidelines (was: alternative to skype)

2018-03-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2018-03-20 at 19:49 -0700, Dave Stevens wrote: > On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 22:29:29 -0400 > Todd Zullinger wrote: > > > > If there's something you're replying to in particular, > > > maybe quote that one line but there's no need to quote the > > > entire thread so far in every email in the thre

Re: Top-posting & list guidelines (was: alternative to skype)

2018-03-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2018-03-20 at 22:20 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Top-posting is specifically discouraged by the Guidelines > > of this and other lists hosted by Fedora, not to mention > > many other mailing lists of a technical nature. Pleas

Re: Where do I find this srpm?

2018-03-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2018-03-20 at 19:18 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > Why don't I have a new phone? I don't want to spend $1K for a phone I > will have to toss out when the battery dies because, with VERY few > exceptions, you can't replace the battery in new phones. IMHO, this is > absolutely inexcusable! I th

Re: Top-posting & list guidelines (was: alternative to skype)

2018-03-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2018-03-21 at 12:02 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Tue, 2018-03-20 at 22:20 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: > > > With the move to mailman3, the list footer cannot be set via > > > the web-based admin interface. I dug into

Re: alternative to skype

2018-03-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2018-03-22 at 08:52 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > and humans being human will sometimes forget > when the convention is not what they are used to, so all I'm saying is > that people may have to be continually reminded. No "maybe" about it. I occasionally insert a reminder, but only if I

Re: Where do I find this srpm?

2018-03-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2018-03-22 at 09:02 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 21/3/18 9:13 pm, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Tue, 2018-03-20 at 19:18 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > > > Why don't I have a new phone? I don't want to spend $1K for a phone I > > > will have

Re: Top-posting & list guidelines

2018-03-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On 21 March 2018 at 23:49, Richard Shaw wrote: > On 03/21/2018 02:02 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> >>> Same in Evolution. In fact even the Gmail web client used to do this >>> when properly configured, but Google seem to have broken it now. >> >&

Re: Where do I find this srpm?

2018-03-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2018-03-22 at 09:48 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > My Note 3 is a Samsung, but from what I've seen the only new phones that > have replaceable batteries are certain models from LG. Everyone else has > gone the "sleeker is better" or "waterproofing is easier with sealed > units" (not that they

Re: alternative to skype

2018-03-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2018-03-24 at 17:13 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 03/21/2018 02:52 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: > > I've worked in seven different organizations, they all happened to use > > Lotus Notes as their mail system, which also defaults to top posting, > > but it was a rule in every organization th

Re: alternative to skype

2018-03-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2018-03-24 at 17:13 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 03/21/2018 02:52 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: > > I've worked in seven different organizations, they all happened to use > > Lotus Notes as their mail system, which also defaults to top posting, > > but it was a rule in every organization th

Top-posting & list guidelines (was Re: alternative to skype)

2018-03-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2018-03-25 at 14:17 +, chicago wrote: > Don't quote the entire email. In fact, don't quote anything at all when you > reply. On k-9 mail there's a little x button (in the default config) that I > can click to get rid of all the quotes text. No, *do* quote the part you are commentin

Re: alternative to skype

2018-03-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2018-03-25 at 21:56 -0400, fred roller wrote: > The thread has digressed. A thread on "posting etiquette" was started to > take up the subject. Has the OP, Patrick, found a solution or are we still > helping? Please, close the thread or continue on subject. Apologies for the > direct

Re: How do I check a process' memory usage?

2018-03-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2018-03-26 at 13:53 +1030, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 24 March 2018, Wolfgang Pfeiffer sent: > > Or maybe even 'htop' - which will you give (among other things) the > > option to move down through - as it seems - all processes that are > > currently running - search for them, nice

Re: HYPERKITTY does not show messages parts being addressed in replies.

2018-03-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2018-03-26 at 22:34 +, chicago wrote: > > I agree. I submitted fedora-infrastructure issue #6802 "HYPERKITTY > > does not show what posting text is being addressed in a reply." to > > address this. It can be viewed here: > > "https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/6802";. > >

Re: Killing only selected Chrome windows from the CLI ?

2018-03-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2018-03-27 at 12:19 +1100, Philip Rhoades wrote: > > If enought people scream > > at google for such an interface, then google /might/ provide such a > > cli. > > > I won't be holding my breath - there are so many other common-sense app > things that Google has not done for years, I wou

Re: HYPERKITTY does not show messages parts being addressed in replies.

2018-03-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2018-03-27 at 00:24 +, Ed Greshko wrote: > > On Mon, 2018-03-26 at 22:34 +, chicago wrote: > > > > I didn't get the post to which the above is a reply. I can see it in > > the list archive so perhaps it was sent from a Yahoo account, in which > > case there is a good chance that Gm

Re: Administrivia: DMARC mitigations enabled -- applies to Yahoo addresses, at least (was Re: HYPERKITTY does not show messages parts being addressed in replies.)

2018-03-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2018-03-27 at 17:27 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Hi all, > > As we've discussed in this thread and others recently, > messages from subscribers @yahoo.com do not reach > subscribers @gmail.com (among others). This is due to an > aggressive policy set by Yahoo which breaks mail sent via

Re: Administrivia: DMARC mitigations enabled -- applies to Yahoo addresses, at least (was Re: HYPERKITTY does not show messages parts being addressed in replies.)

2018-03-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2018-03-27 at 18:25 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: > > That seems to be a sensible change. Perhaps one or two yahoo.com users > > could post here just to check it's working and we gmail.com users can > > see their messages. > > > > Of course as long as nothing appears we'll have to keep chec

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