hi,
i am new in this world of linux. getting confused seeing a lot of linux
distro. I just want to use linux distro to learn linux from the scratch
level. please suggest me if fedora is the best place to start with. other
details are as follows:
confused between: fedora, openSUSE and ubuntu LTS
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> > confused between: fedora, openSUSE and ubuntu LTS
>
> There isn't a lot of difference from the learning standpoint,
> but there are two main differences from an administration
> standpoint: fedora and openSUSE and many others use
> "rpm" pac
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:45 AM, T.C. Hollingsworth <
tchollingswo...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I am really thankful to all of you, Marko Vojinovic, Tim and all the
members for such great suggestions.
However, it was a coincidence that I have some Ubuntu LTS CD and just
installed it. Everything was
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Michael Ekstrand wrote:
That depends entirely on who you ask. Here, you are likely to get
> pro-RPM answers, as Fedora uses RPM and people choose it for a reason.
> Each has features and niceties that the other does not. Both are good
> package formats and systems;
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
The main advantage of Linux systems is openness.
>
Correct but I am considering security too! Well, Linux is good overall.
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On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
I would say they are just different, not better or worse, though if
> you like a GUI package management tool, nothing beats "synaptic"
> on the ubuntu/debian family (I tend to prefer the command line
> tools since I use ssh to get to most systems
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Ian Malone wrote:
I would say the opposite, Fedora's short release cycle isn't for
> everyone (and I say this as someone who's used Fedora as their main OS
> since FC1 came out) and Fedora upgrades are maybe slightly more
> painful than Ubuntu ones. Ubuntu has an
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:08 AM, Rick Stevens wrote:
Keep in mind that Fedora is a "cutting edge" distribution. It's
> generally completely "updated" (replaced) every 6 months and old
> versions are only supported for two updates, e.g. when Fedora 16
> comes out, Fedora 14 will be obsoleted and
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 4:22 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
(1) WELCOME to the Linux community!
>
Thanks.
> (2) Don't hesitate to ask for help. This mailing list is a great resource
> of
> information and is followed by people who are seasoned linux users, as
> well as
> freshmen. That said, don't
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 6:30 AM, wrote:
The _basics_ are the same (certainly from an end-user point of view)
> Perhaps the best advice I can give you, is: put an extra harddisc in your
> PC.
> (if you are the "hasty type" consider a 250GB SDD)
>
> And you pick blindly any distro, and just get your
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> "The boot loader is installed on a partition that doesn't lie entirely
> > below 128 GB. The system might not boot is BIOS support only lba24
> (result
> > is error 18 during install grub MBR)."
> > __
> >
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
This is how bootloading works... First, there is bios, which is programmed
> to
> look for and execute the boot code in the MBR, and it does so at some
> point.
> The "look for and execute" means that bios needs to access the MBR of the
> di
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> Nothing is permanent, of course, it would just be a hassle to fix. Neither
> Windows nor Linux would boot, and you would need to boot from the
> installation
> DVD or something called the "Rescue CD", and use the rescue environment to
> r
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
This is how bootloading works...
>
Well, since (now) /home is a separate partition, but we cannot boot from
/home only because it is not containing the required file to get booted and
it is only for storing the data.?
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On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> In principle one probably could tweak a system into booting from the /home
> partition, but I see no reason to ever want such a configuration.
> You want to think of the /home partition as your working area --- it is
> used
> for storing
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> In principle one probably could tweak a system into booting from the /home
> partition, but I see no reason to ever want such a configuration.
> You want to think of the /home partition as your working area --- it is
> used
> for storing
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
There are lots of good distributions out there. Just download a live
> CD .ISO, burn it, boot it and see what you've got. After playing
> around a little while with all of them, you'll surely find your way.
>
Sure and thanks man.
On Sat, Nov 5
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
For a partition to be bootable, it has to have the appropriate files on
> it to boot your computer. Can you give me one reason why you'd want to
> have those files in /home, even if it is on its own partition, as it is
> on my computers?
>
Not ha
Hi,
Excited to see this world of Linux. A general question came in mind
regarding the origin of Linux.
Well, it (Linux) is basically a kernel -- perhaps same in majority of all
the distros, almost all. Well, openSUSE also uses the technique of .rpm
which is again Red Hat Package Manager. So basic
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Linux Tyro wrote:
Excited to see this world of Linux. A general question came in mind
> regarding the origin of Linux.
>
> Well, it (Linux) is basically a kernel -- perhaps same in majority of all
> the distros, almost all. Well, openSUSE also uses t
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 1:37 PM, inode0 wrote:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_distribution
>
I read this..
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Don Quixote de la Mancha <
quix...@dulcineatech.com> wrote:
Richard Stallman and his colleagues at The Freesoftware Foundation
> assert that the prop
Hi,
I have an idea as follows:
Fedora should celebrate every year its birth-day, like having a great party
and celebration of its success and an optional party for all to attend
(people attending with their own money of travel) and so it becomes more
like that of 'a great achievement', how this i
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Michael Ekstrand wrote:
I think this already happens, except twice a year rather than once -
> every release. When a new Fedora version is released, there are parties
> around the world for Fedora users and developers to gather and
> celebrate. Not all in one place,
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Greg Woods wrote:
All this was just an answer to the question "why would anybody ever want
> to boot from /home". I don't claim this is the optimal setup.
>
Yes, it was just a question for information point of view, and now cleared
that /home is for the data stora
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 6:17 AM, Tim wrote:
> With suspend and hibernate, the computer stores everything that it's
> currently doing (documents your reading/editing, pages you're browsing,
> etc), so that when you wake the computer up, you resume from where you
> left off.
>
> Hibernate stores it
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> But without intentionally deleting memory, how could it be lost except
> for the case
> > that power has gone and I am not using UPSCold boot simply means
> that it doesn't
> > need credentials to log-on?
>
> cold boot means a normal boot
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Tim wrote:
Tim:
> >> Suspend does it to RAM. So your computer needs (minimal) power
> >> continuously available to it, to keep what it's stuffed into memory.
> >> If the memory is lost, then the next boot will be a cold boot.
Hi,
can one let me know about the excellent offline docs to learn linux from
scratch?
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On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 3:48 AM, suvayu ali wrote:
Depending on what you want to learn:
>
> man
> info or pinfo
>
> (lets say you want to learn about your shell and you use bash, then
> the is bash)
>
> That said, man or info documentation pages can be sometimes very
> information dense and di
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 8:11 AM, g wrote:
On 11/14/2011 09:48 AM, suvayu ali wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 09:30, Linux Tyro wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> can one let me know about the excellent offline docs to learn linux from
> >> scratch?
> -
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> I would just say "THANKS".
>
> 10K of quoted text with one line at the bottom. Please don't do that
> again.
;).., the meaning of that 'THANKS' is that: I would have to go through the
links and see and start learning linux from zeroth level...
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> Most of that 10K of text wasn't the links.
I agree.
> Quoting them, and only them would have been sufficient.
Sufficient for what...? Didn't get you...!
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On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 3:34 PM, g wrote:
> learning linux is not a 3 or 4 day adventure. it takes time. and, you did
> ask for "from scratch".
> if you want an 'all in one' source, go with "Rute". it is very thorough and
> the html version is only a 1.5 meg gzip download. i can not comment on t
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> I was referring to the long quote ABOVE the links which had no reason being
> in your reply.
Those were good links, I guess.
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On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> You were thanking somebody for sending you some links. Quoting the
> links themselves was sufficient to give context; quoting the entire post
> was redundant.
Really sorry, but my way of saying thanks is that, however, it depends
on person to p
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
> Especially 3.1 and 3.17
> I don't see any problem in politely informing those "new members" and
> "new to Linux" of the standard practice of this list.
Definitely good thing, I apprecia
Hi,
As I have liked Linux (yes, I am windows convert), so with 2 GB RAM
and 250 GB hard-disk, I am now going to make hard-disk penta boot as
follows:-
Fedora - 20 GB - installing it, - /root (20 GB)
openSUSE - 10 GB installing with /root (10 GB)
Ubuntu - 10 GB installing with /root (10 GB)
Debi
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> What is the purpose for doing all of this? Is it just to play with each
> distro? That is, not really work? If that is the case, then maybe
> you'd be better off using one distro and then having VM's for the others.
Well the purpose is to k
distro you just delete the VM's. Makes
> redistribution of empty space a whole lot easier.
Okay VM, hmmm, but I guess we lose some functionality in VM, however,
this is just a newbie guess.Rather, if Live CD is there, why not
to play around a few and then see...?
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