Re: to wayland or not?

2022-04-26 Thread Gordon Messmer
Wayland desktop sessions run Xwayland, which is an X11 server that displays to a wayland display, for compatibility with applications that don't natively support wayland. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an em

Re: SSH hangs when including command to execute

2022-05-07 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 5/7/22 12:45, C Linus Hicks wrote: the remote machines are derivitives of RHEL 6,7,8 You may be running in to a known issue (BZ#1972266), if ForwardX11 is set in ssh_config on the client and X11Forwarding yes is set in sshd_config on the remote host. Check the server for /etc/profile.d/

Re: Problems with Borg backup on F36

2022-05-20 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 5/16/22 08:45, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I updated to F36 a few days ago and everything seemed to go smoothly until I noticed my regular nightly backups were failing. I use Borgbackup and the configuration has been stable for a long time with no problems. The actual backup does seem to succee

Re: Problems with Borg backup on F36

2022-05-20 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 5/20/22 14:15, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Thanks, but it's a desktop and the issue appears to be related to the latest version of Borg. The check errors happen across all of my existing backups, not just one. As a result of deduplication, it's expected that all (or most) of your backups wi

Re: auto unlock encrypted disks using clevis/tang works for ext4 but not btrfs?

2022-06-10 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 6/10/22 11:29, Barry Scott wrote: What logs do I need to collect? I'd start by looking at "journalctl -b0" You might be able to find clevis information in there. Another interesting item might be to run "ls -l /boot/initramfs-$(uname -r).img > initramfs-$(hostname)" and to diff the two r

Re: Runing Android apps?

2022-07-01 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 7/1/22 00:13, Frederic Muller wrote: I was wondering if there was any simpler way to run just 1 'single' android app on F36? Note that the app uses BT to gather one external device information, in case that matters. There's ongoing work to bring waydroid to Fedora: https://bugzilla.red

Re: Are Meta/Facebook servers using Fedora Linux?

2022-12-06 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2022-12-06 04:55, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: From the above quotes, I thought that Meta/Facebook servers are using Fedora Linux, or at least Linux servers. As far as I know, the answer is "No".  Their production platform is based on CentOS Stream. https://www.youtube.com/wat

Re: kernel bug? listening on same port with IPv4 and IPv6

2023-01-06 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2023-01-06 06:17, Sjoerd Mullender wrote: I have a program that is supposed to listen to the same port on both IPv4 and IPv6 sockets.  In the past, what it did, was basically: create new socket for IPv6, set option IPV6_V6ONLY to off, bind, listen; then create a new socket for IPv4, and also

Re: kernel bug? listening on same port with IPv4 and IPv6

2023-01-08 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2023-01-08 08:14, Sjoerd Mullender wrote: and see the difference in behavior.  When using "all", the second round (IPv4) says that bind returns 1 unexpectedly, and the port is also unexpected.  When using "localhost", both IPv6 and IPv4 succeed and listen to the same port, but using two di

Re: is root realy root ?

2023-01-22 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2023-01-21 15:37, Jeffrey Walton wrote: chown: changing ownership of '/root/.cache/doc': Operation not permitted It sounds like selinux. If the problem were SELinux, the system would report "permission denied" and not "operation not permitted".  You can verify this with a little bit of

Re: memtest86+ seems to do nothing.

2023-03-16 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2023-03-15 10:40, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: The Fedora memtest86+-5.31 is broken and they have been informed of how to get the newer 6.10 version to work, but have done nothing. I don't think that's fair to the maintainers.  There hasn't been a memory test application (neither

Re: Thunderbird 115 FC 38

2023-09-27 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2023-09-23 10:45, steven stern wrote: I see that Thunderbird 115.2 is in koji, but it looks like it has not been build for Fedora 38. Is that coming? https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=39 https://i.imgur.com/bKEMxjt.png I would probably ask that question in this BZ

Re: Function Key becomes permanently pressed after a couple of minutes after boot (temporary fix: reboot)

2023-12-21 Thread Gordon Messmer
You may have pressed Fn+Esc together, which activates Fn lock. https://community.frame.work/t/swap-function-multimedia-keys-by-default/12856/10 -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.

Re: Personal disputs in bugzilla (bug 1401166 )

2017-02-21 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 02/20/2017 05:48 AM, Neil Thompson wrote: At the very least, I think the package maintainer needs to be spoken to by fedora people - swearing at bug reporters on the Fedora Bugzilla is probably not "being excellent to each other". I've opened a ticket for that, and another was opened to c

Re: Strange thing...a hidden kernel, a stealth kernel!!! running on my Fedora 25.

2017-03-01 Thread Gordon Messmer
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 4:50 PM, wrote: > > When I choose the corresponding GRUB2 menu entry this kernel 4.8.6 shows that > it is real.With uname --all it appears as the active kernel. Well, we could all guess at what's happening, or you could include your grub.cfg file. Maybe post it here: ht

Re: Strange thing...a hidden kernel, a stealth kernel!!! running on my Fedora 25.

2017-03-01 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 03/01/2017 08:11 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: If you cd to /boot/grub2 and do... grep linux16 grub.cfg what are the results? That'll only work for BIOS systems. It's probably best to make a habit of something like: grep linux16 /etc/grub2*.cfg That'll search symlinks to both the BIOS and UEFI

Re: Problem installing MatLab

2017-03-12 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 03/12/2017 06:00 AM, carloberdond...@live.it wrote: I changed folder, trying to install in home/.matlab (again I created the folder .matlab) and fortunately I could go ahead in the installation. When it finished i saw the icon of Matlab but when i clicked on "Finish" the icon disappeared, an

Re: Terrible F25 WiFi Performance

2017-03-23 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 03/23/2017 05:40 PM, Ian Malone wrote: Did anyone get to the bottom of this? I found that enabling aggregated TX provided a tremendous performance boost. It's off by default due to problems in some situations: $ cat /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf options iwlwifi 11n_disable=8

Re: QEMU/KVM/Windows and Samba+NFS

2017-04-02 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/02/2017 09:01 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I want to use N as a backup server for W, however W cannot see shares on N. It complains about permissions. It seems to me that from both a performance and reliability perspective, this is the problem you should solve. Specifically what info

Re: QEMU/KVM/Windows and Samba+NFS

2017-04-03 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/03/2017 03:18 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Using the Windows file manager on W to open the Network tab, I see several entries, including the Samba service on D and the NAS (called STORAGE). Opening the D entry shows me the shares from D. Trying to open the STORAGE tab gets an error: "Wind

Re: QEMU/KVM/Windows and Samba+NFS

2017-04-03 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/03/2017 08:14 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: It's true that I didn't change the default. However note that W is showing STORAGE in its network tab without me doing any specific configuration (i.e. this is a new install of Windows 10) so it must be getting it from somewhere. You later sai

Re: QEMU/KVM/Windows and Samba+NFS

2017-04-03 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/03/2017 10:49 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I meant no specific configuration on W. The /etc/hosts file on D has existed for a long time with no alteration. The /etc/hosts file on D won't help W resolve the name to an IP address. C:\Users\poc>nslookup storage ... Name: storage Address:

Re: QEMU/KVM/Windows and Samba+NFS

2017-04-03 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/03/2017 11:47 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: Gah! I meant /etc/nsswitch.conf (too many network related config files I know. But we're also talking about nslookup and ping on Windows. :) ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsub

Re: LS in a script file

2017-04-04 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/04/2017 02:35 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: I want to list all the file end in .bib, except the file ending by -e.bib This can be done by (from the shell command) ls -d !(*@(-e)).bib or by find . !(*@(-e)).bib Note that "find" doesn't support that syntax. The find command only works because

Re: LS in a script file

2017-04-04 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/04/2017 03:17 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: I would imagine that you're using "#!/bin/sh" as the first line in the script, and bash is working in POSIX mode. Try using "#!/bin/bash" as the first line in the script. No, it does not help Ah. You have to set the extglob option, as documented

Re: [F25] issue with SSL connexions: Failure of SSL transaction with

2017-04-06 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/05/2017 10:49 PM, Frédéric Bron wrote: Where could it come from? Can you create an entirely new user on the F25 system and replicate the problem there? What did you copy from opensuse to F25 when you made the switch (if anything)? ___ user

Re: [F25] issue with SSL connexions: Failure of SSL transaction with

2017-04-07 Thread Gordon Messmer
OK, so you're having intermittent problems with both firefox and konqueror within a fresh user account. That's useful information, because those two browsers use completely separate SSL implementations. Mozilla develops their own "nss" library for encryption, and Konqueror uses OpenSSL. nss

Re: [F25] issue with SSL connexions: Failure of SSL transaction with

2017-04-10 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/09/2017 11:46 PM, Frédéric Bron wrote: First try and apprently maybe a first error (write:errno=104): OK, errno 104 is ECONNRESET (Connection reset by peer). That might be because some firewall or router in between your system and the server is sending a TCP reset packet to disrupt th

Re: ssh stderr question

2017-04-10 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/09/2017 07:25 PM, JD wrote: ssh user_foo@1.2.3.4 "pgrep -f 'master_app' | wc -l" 2> stderr.log would write any errors to the file "stderr.log" on the local box. Those stderr messages would be coming from wc and NOT from ssh. The OP's command should be ssh user_foo@1.2.3.4 2> stderr.log

Re: ssh stderr question

2017-04-10 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/10/2017 05:56 AM, bruce wrote: So if I get what you guys have said... ssh crawl_user@1.2.3.4 2>&1 pgrep -f 'master_client' | wc -l would work with the >> 2>&1 << writing the stderr to the stdout for the ssh For curiosity's sake, let's look at how the shell parses and executes that

Re: ssh stderr question

2017-04-10 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/10/2017 11:30 AM, JD wrote: On 04/10/2017 10:32 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 04/09/2017 07:25 PM, JD wrote: ssh user_foo@1.2.3.4 "pgrep -f 'master_app' | wc -l" 2> stderr.log Those stderr messages would be coming from wc and NOT from ssh. The OP's command sh

Re: ssh stderr question

2017-04-10 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/10/2017 01:01 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/10/2017 12:46 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: I did understand. It doesn't matter if 2>file appears before the ssh arguments, or at the end. In both cases, ssh's stderr will be written to a local file. It is incorrect to say that the f

Re: ssh stderr question

2017-04-10 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/10/2017 01:56 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: Might as well be complete: 2>stderr.log sshuser_foo@1.2.3.4 "pgrep -f 'master_app' | wc -l" is also equivalent Uhm, dunno about that one as you'd be redirecting stderr of the shell itself--not the stderr of the ssh command ONLY. I also don't

Re: ssh stderr question

2017-04-10 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/10/2017 02:23 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: ICBW, but I was under the impression that the OP wanted to capture any error output from ssh itself and wasn't concerned with errors at the other end. It's difficult to separate the two. You'd have to ensure that stderr on the remote end was either wri

Re: [F25] issue with SSL connexions: Failure of SSL transaction with

2017-04-10 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/10/2017 08:56 PM, Frédéric Bron wrote: # tcpdump -nn port 443 tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on enp62s0u1u4, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 262144 bytes 05:38:34.536393 IP6 2001:41d0:fe0b:8000:9a64:ff80:35b8:7d03.60038 > 2a04

Re: [F25] issue with SSL connexions: Failure of SSL transaction with

2017-04-10 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/10/2017 09:30 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: May I suggest that IP address be used instead of the host name? I specifically wanted to use the hostname because I assumed that if this were an IPv6 vs IPv4 sort of problem, we'd see that difference in successful and unsuccessful connections. We di

Re: [F25] issue with SSL connexions: Failure of SSL transaction with

2017-04-10 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/10/2017 11:09 PM, Frédéric Bron wrote: It would be useful to disable IPv6 for this connection and try again. So applied the command proposed by Ed as root: $ echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/(name of interface)/disable_ipv6 It might be simpler to disable IPv6 on one connection. From you

Re: [F25] issue with SSL connexions: Failure of SSL transaction with

2017-04-11 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/10/2017 11:37 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Yes, openssl does take ipv6 addresses. You just need to enclose in brackets openssl s_client -connect [2a04:4e42::223]:443 works fine Huh. Seems Fedora patches openssl for that[1]. Upstream openssl doesn't support IPv6. Adding to my confusion, the

Re: [F25] issue with SSL connexions: Failure of SSL transaction with

2017-04-11 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/10/2017 11:54 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: You mean my ISP does not handle IPv6 correctly, right? For the short term, is there any harm to stick to IPv4? In my opinion, it is not clear that it is your ISP as there are probably many boxes between your system and the destination. Some owned by you

Re: crond stopped, still fills /var/log/messages with millions of messages

2017-04-21 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/20/2017 11:59 PM, M. Fioretti wrote: crond: No configuration file found at /home/marco/.esmtprc or /etc/esmtprc but the only line in my own crontab is a shell script that runs every minute. When I run that script manually, from the command line, it yelds no error or warning. At thi

Re: crond stopped, still fills /var/log/messages with millions of messages

2017-04-22 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/21/2017 03:15 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: 2: What uses estmp? esmtp will provide /usr/sbin/sendmail if it's the only MTA installed, in which case cronie will use it to deliver job output. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.o

Re: crond stopped, still fills /var/log/messages with millions of messages

2017-04-22 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/21/2017 10:03 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: That's odd as cron only checks its tables once a minute. It's almost as if there's a script in a loop with a "sleep 20" or something akin to it inside the loop or a program doing the same. I read 20/second as 20 times per second. It's interesting th

Re: update on: crond stopped, still fills /var/log/messages with millions of messages

2017-04-24 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/24/2017 03:22 AM, M. Fioretti wrote: I DO remember that I created an empty esmtprc, for testing, and then when restarted crond would complain that: "Local delivery not possible without a MDA" Right. If you wanted local delivery, you'd probably install the "esmtp-local-delivery" rpm.

Re: problem mounting btrfs 1 raid on boot

2017-04-30 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/30/2017 02:33 AM, joa...@verona.se wrote: The only difference between the first fedora install that broke, and the second one that I can think of, is that the first one used btrfs for filesystem, and the second one ext4. So I'm suspecting that the btrfs filesystem doesnt get properly loaded

Re: Please move bug #1428988 out of maintainers private area

2017-05-03 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/03/2017 12:48 AM, Clemens Eisserer wrote: When I asked him to please re-open it - so that at least ABRT reports could be attached to give some idea how serious the issue is , the response was simply "fuck you if you don't like my attitude". Is this the same maintainer that you were compla

Re: Is blacklist broken?

2017-05-05 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/04/2017 01:28 PM, David De Graaf wrote: Is blacklisting broken? I've created /etc/modprobe.d/wireless.conf with one line: blacklist r8712u and yet, after a reboot, the r8712u module is installed. I don't think it's broken, no. The man page for modprobe.conf indicates that blacklisti

Re: log message meaning

2017-05-06 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/05/2017 10:44 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: I suppose you could edit /usr/lib/systemd/system/cups.service Use "systemctl edit cups.service" ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedo

Re: IP address or DNS name (bug or feature)

2017-06-05 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/05/2017 01:25 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 06/05/2017 11:44 AM, Walter H. wrote: On 05.06.2017 20:38, Samuel Sieb wrote: nslookup resolved the .local addresses? That's surprising and might be a problem. I'm using inside my network a .local domain which is defined in a ZONE on my DNS - so no

Re: IP address or DNS name (bug or feature)

2017-06-05 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/05/2017 09:13 PM, Walter H. wrote: Actually, that*IS* a problem. You should not be doing that. That is quite likely the source of all your problems. That domain name is reserved for a specific purpose and putting it in DNS will cause conflicts. Sorry, you're telling*BULLSHIT*; the TLD

Re: Modern webmail client

2017-06-06 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/06/2017 11:42 AM, Alex wrote: Before I start installing and testing roundcube, rainloop, and the others, I thought I would ask this list if they have a preference for users on mobile? I've gotten to be pretty impressed with SOGo. They maintain a yum repo for customers. If you want to b

Re: IP address or DNS name (bug or feature)

2017-06-07 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/07/2017 12:05 PM, Walter H. wrote: On 05.06.2017 22:44, Gordon Messmer wrote: Sounds likely. In this case, you probably want to *remove* nss-mdns, remove the whole X? :D I don't really know what that means. ___ users mailing list --

Re: IP address or DNS name (bug or feature)

2017-06-08 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/07/2017 10:53 PM, Walter H. wrote: when you do yum remove nss-mdns and say yes, you will remove more than 150 MBytes including many packets which refernce to nss-mdns ... including X11 Not on my system. The only thing that appears to depend on nss-mdns is wine, here. In any case, if t

Re: postgresql and firewald startup

2017-06-09 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/09/2017 12:09 AM, Jeandet Alexis wrote: On startup postgreslq always fail to start complaining about port 5432. My first guess would be that you've configured postgresql to listen on a specific IP address, and when you do that, the service needs to depend on "network-online.target" ins

Re: Is default umask of 022 still reasonable for Fedora?

2017-06-19 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/18/2017 07:18 PM, stan wrote: On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 05:49:20 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: You haven't described your environment. Home workstation with no web facing services. As a minor point, I'd mention that Fedora's default umask is 002, not 022, except for the root user. I think eit

Re: Cannot get PHP to talk to PostgreSQL

2017-06-26 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/25/2017 01:41 AM, Stephen Davies wrote: The RoundCube installation went smoothly and I checked that the PostgreSQL extensions were included inthe PHP configuration. (Initially, I had duplicate extension= entries but the httpd log reported "already loaded" for both modules so I removed the

Re: /var/cache

2017-07-05 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 07/05/2017 01:16 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: How can I clean this? rpm -qf /var/cache/*/* | grep 'is not owned' | awk '{print $2}' | xargs rm -rf ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@l

Re: Fedora upgrade, 25 to 26 -

2017-07-14 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 07/13/2017 12:04 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: You didn't let it do the reboot to do the upgrade? . Not yet, I can't risk running up a lot of usage during "prime time." If I go over my allotment Viasat protests and charges me by for extra gigs. The post-reboot part of the process doesn't dow

Re: Fedora upgrade, 25 to 26 -

2017-07-14 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 07/14/2017 03:01 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: I clicked on Download this morning during my "free time" which is not charged against my usage and it just downloaded all the stuff again and when the install was done it simply said the install failed with some meaningless gobbledygook about a gedit f

Re: Disappearing files

2017-08-06 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/06/2017 08:48 PM, Marmorstein, Robert wrote: I installed asterisk and dahdi from source If, for any reason, you don't want to use the packages provided by Fedora, you should still be familiar with the integration work that the maintainer has done/is doing. Start here: https://src.fed

Re: Installing F26; Question about ks.cfg when raid1 is used

2017-08-09 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/09/2017 11:52 AM, D&R wrote: I looked at the debug info in the storage.log and there was an error about sdb1 did not exist. But... Switch to VT2 (where I assume you examined storage.log) and run "ls -l /dev/sd* /dev/md" or "lsblk" to see what block devices *do* exist. You want to make

Re: Installing F26; Question about ks.cfg when raid1 is used

2017-08-09 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/09/2017 02:27 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: Right below those "part" definitions, you see "raid" definitions where those labels are normally used. In your case, raid / --device=root --fstype=ext4 --level=raid1 --useexisting tells the system to use the first two devices in the "part" sec

Re: simple shell script question

2017-08-09 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/09/2017 05:47 PM, bruce wrote: aa='bash' xx="pgrep -f '"${aa}"' | wc -l" echo $xx <<< this dsplays the test pgrep echo `$xx` << err msg echo `${xx}` << err msg... eval "$xx" or: echo $(eval "$xx") In the invocation you're trying to use, "|" is being passed as an argument to pgre

Re: Installing F26; Question about ks.cfg when raid1 is used

2017-08-09 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/09/2017 06:14 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: You have to have at least two "part raid.somenumber" lines to create a RAID1, and a "raid" line to define the type of RAID, filesystem type and mountpoint. I did. I used a kickstart that was as close to D&R's snippet as possible. Have a look at:

Re: Installing F26; Question about ks.cfg when raid1 is used

2017-08-10 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/10/2017 01:36 PM, D&R wrote: /dev/md: total 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Aug 10 19:04 home -> ../md127 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Aug 10 19:04 root -> ../md126 Good. Try removing the "ignoredisk", "clearpart", and "part" lines from your kickstart file.

Re: autofs and ssh fail over ipsec tunnel

2017-08-11 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/11/2017 11:12 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote: What's the problem here? Why is ping more clever in finding the route? One problem you might have is that your ipsec gateway may have firewall rules that allow ICMP but not other traffic to be forwarded. Can you post the full set of firewal

Re: autofs and ssh fail over ipsec tunnel

2017-08-11 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/11/2017 01:32 PM, David A. De Graaf wrote: (The other common suspect, selinux, is disabled.) That's terrible. Stop turning off SELinux. You don't "find / -exec chmod 777 {} +" do you? On the remote gateway. octopus, 'ipsec -L' output was dominated by DROP lines from 'fail2ban', but

Re: I have lost the ability to resize windows with alt-middle click

2017-08-14 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/14/2017 06:50 AM, Matt Morgan wrote: Starting maybe a few days ago, holding Alt near the corner of a window and middle-clicking, which used to turn the cursor into a window-resizer, no longer does anything. I tried other variants (other buttons, the Super key) and none seem to do it. I

Re: rpmbuild --rebuiild with config options

2017-08-17 Thread Gordon Messmer
On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 4:50 PM, Amadeus W.M. wrote: > I'm trying to put together a minimal emacs rpm and I'm trying this, with > the ensuing error: > > rpmbuild --rebuild emacs-25.2-3.fc25.src.rpm --without-all > rpmbuild: --without-all: unknown option Looking at the emacs spec (available at ht

Re: rpmbuild --rebuiild with config options

2017-08-18 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/18/2017 09:47 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: Thanks for the link. Looking at that, the spec file would need to be modified: %configure --with-dbus --with-gif --with-jpeg --with-png \ --with-rsvg --with-tiff --with-xft --with-xpm \ --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --with-gpm=no

Re: the fedora csh and goto

2017-08-21 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/21/2017 02:30 PM, JD wrote: This is what "Does Not Work" mean: Running your example: Works here: $ rpm -qf /bin/csh tcsh-6.20.00-5.fc26.x86_64 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...

Re: the fedora csh and goto

2017-08-21 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/21/2017 03:09 PM, JD wrote: What does "which goto" say? Dude goto is a built-in! Yes, it should be, but the question is still valid. You *should* get this response: $ which goto goto: shell built-in command. If that's not the response you get, the result might be informati

Re: Delta RPMs -

2017-08-21 Thread Gordon Messmer
I don't see a "drpms" directory in the fedora 26 "updates" directory. It's still present for f25 and f27. I haven't seen any notices about that, so it might be a failure. I'm asking in the #fedora IRC channel. I'll file a bug later if needed. ___ users

Re: Delta RPMs -

2017-08-22 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/22/2017 01:12 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: Thank you Gordon, I appreciate your interest and response to my inquiry. The "drpms" directory is back, today. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le

Re: Delta RPMs -

2017-08-23 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/23/2017 05:40 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: Can I determine if "drpms" are being provided before actually downloading them? If so how? You can load: http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/$releasever/$basearch/ ...in your browser. Though it's still possible that dnf will

Re: SV: DNF suggestion

2017-08-23 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/22/2017 10:16 PM, Daniel Ståhl wrote: Från: Kevin Cummings [mailto:cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net] You can always wrap it with a shell script which prints something, then invokes the real dnf Yeah, but that wouldn't be permanent. And I've already registered a ticket, but thanks for the

Re: Delta RPMs -

2017-08-25 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/25/2017 03:27 AM, Ron Yorston wrote: I've subscribed to the infrastructure mailing list and have asked there. Good idea. I don't think it's been abandoned. At least, I haven't seen any proposals to do so. The directory is present again on the mirrors I've seen. However, I don't see

Re: Possible to "dnf upgrade" in a Fedora Gnome without the need to reboot?

2017-09-12 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 09/12/2017 12:39 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: Then why, then, did sysadmins brag about the long uptimes of their fully updated systems? Because back then a host was probably an installation on bare metal that was painstakingly set up by hand and preserved for as long as possible. If you're buildin

Re: gcc unsupported version

2017-09-21 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 09/21/2017 06:24 AM, Hiisi T wrote: While I have gcc-compat installed and configured the soft to use gcc34 I don't understand why am I getting this? Any advice please? Specifically, how did you configure the process to use gcc34? ___ users mailing

Re: Build a network bridge with Fedora

2017-09-22 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 09/21/2017 11:30 PM, Cristian Sava wrote: Why do I need to specify this long list of parameters for basic things? If you're doing this for virtualization purposes (as opposed to creating a network bridge with multiple interfaces), the simpler answer is: virsh iface-bridge eth0 br0 --n

Re: vi

2017-09-28 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 09/28/2017 04:04 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: How can I keep stored the commands of vi from call to call? Make sure you have the "vim-enhanced" package installed.  IIRC, on core installs you'll only get the "vim-minimal" package. ___ users mailing li

Re: vi

2017-09-28 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 09/28/2017 07:27 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Actually you need to use wim Yes, but as long as you have the "vim-enhanced" package installed, "vi" should be an alias for "vim" ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe se

Re: vi

2017-09-28 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 09/28/2017 10:28 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Yes, but as long as you have the "vim-enhanced" package installed, "vi" should be an alias for "vim" I do not think so: viw-enhanced rovides: /etc/profile.d/vim.sh only /etc/profile.d/vim.sh provide the alias to vi Am I right? I guess I'm not sure

Re: network-online.target appears to be very much broken

2017-11-05 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 11/05/2017 05:36 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Unfortunately, with systemd, nobody really knows how it works, apparently. There do appear to be a few people here who don't understand how it works, but that's hardly systemd's fault.  This specific subject is documented thoroughly: https://w

Re: network-online.target appears to be very much broken

2017-11-05 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 11/05/2017 06:18 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: Because systemd is brought to you by the same people that brought you NetworkManager Yes, if you define "the same people" as "Red Hat."  But in that case, a great deal of the GNU/Linux stack, including gcc, glibc, and Linux (the kernel) are brought

Re: network-online.target appears to be very much broken

2017-11-07 Thread Gordon Messmer
On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 6:57 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > privoxy.service most certainly has: > > Wants=network-online.target > After=network-online.target ... > However, privoxy just failed to start for me, after a reboot. I was curious about this, so I went back to the beginning. I take back w

Fonts in F27

2017-11-15 Thread Gordon Messmer
After upgrading to F27, I noticed that fonts looked "off".  I made a screenshot of Thunderbird and gnome-terminal displaying roughly identical contents on Fedora 25, 26, and 27.  The older two releases are identical, but F27's fonts (both fixed-width and variable-width) appear to be the same wi

Re: Fonts in F27

2017-11-15 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 11/15/2017 10:52 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote: Most likely it's the new default v40 truetype interpreter; Maybe, but the users list email you linked to indicated that the new interpreter was introduced in F26.  Looking at the screenshots I took of F25 and F26, fonts appear to be identical.  The c

Re: Fedora 26 to 27: Update problem.

2017-11-16 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 11/16/2017 02:47 PM, John Pilkington wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1513111 The bug appears to be that dnf processes the last metadata update time while in the offline system-upgrade mode.  I was able to work around the problem by re-running "dnf system-upgrade download

Re: Fedora 26 to 27: Update problem.

2017-11-16 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 11/16/2017 03:34 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: This explains why someone else managed to upgrade a wireless laptop without networking. Something is going horribly sideways here. 'system-upgrade reboot' is whining only about my local repo: Does your repository configuration specify a very sho

Re: Virtual network bridge stopped working after upgrading to F27

2017-11-16 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 11/16/2017 07:50 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Now, with the crisis averted, I'd like to figure out how to get my Windows VM back on the LAN, with its own static IP address. Usually, bridged networking can be set up with virsh: virsh iface-bridge eth0 br0 --no-stp

Re: Virtual network bridge stopped working after upgrading to F27

2017-11-17 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 11/17/2017 04:09 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Gordon Messmer writes: Usually, bridged networking can be set up with virsh: virsh iface-bridge eth0 br0 --no-stp virt-manager itself can handle this too. But before any of that happens the physical port has to be attached to the bridge, and an

Re: Unable to have ~/.pam_environment processed -> having fun with SELinux

2017-11-22 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 11/21/2017 11:30 PM, Timothée Floure wrote: ~/.pam_environment is a symbolic link to ~/.dotfiles/pam_environment. Symlinks aren't processed according to their target, so they tend to be problematic with SELinux.  Consider using a hard link instead.

Re: SSH_AUTH_SOCK behavior is completely insane

2017-11-23 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 11/23/2017 03:20 AM, cen wrote: According to other replies gnome-keyring is involved so perhaps the fault lies in that. I doubt upstream ssh guys would override cli options with agent. Nonsense.  GNOME provides *an* agent, it doesn't modify ssh.  The ssh client decides what order to at

Re: What the heck is a rc.local stop job?

2017-11-28 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 11/28/2017 09:51 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: The only reason I'm starting things in rc.local is because systemd can't ever start them properly because it has no idea when the network is actually up. Can *anyone* experiencing this problem provide more information about it?  I tried to reproduce

Accessing KRB5 NFS from local system accounts

2017-11-30 Thread Gordon Messmer
I recently noticed that spamassassin (running as the local "daemon" account) will hang some of the time when processing messages, and tracked it to the process attempting to access ~user/.spamassassin/user_prefs.  I believe that should return an access failure, but sometimes the process stalls

Re: is my filesystem damaged?

2017-12-12 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/12/2017 05:36 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: Very odd that it should repeat the message 6 times. It's not that odd, if the filesystem is corrupt.  It means that the directory contains the name ".bash_history", but the associated inode is missing (six times). ___

Re: NetworkManager-wait-online is still utterly, and completely, broken

2017-12-17 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/17/2017 07:18 AM, Tom H wrote: I've just read "man nm-online" (possibly for the first time!) and "nm-online -s" doesn't seem to do what "NetworkManager-wait-online.service" is supposed to do, systemd-wise. It waits "for NetworkManager startup to complete, rather than waiting for network con

Re: NetworkManager-wait-online is still utterly, and completely, broken

2017-12-17 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/17/2017 08:38 AM, Tom H wrote: Yes, it's the same thing as doing what I suggested next and you snipped out. Not exactly... I'd like to know if this commit is the one that broke the service: https://cgit.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/commit/data/NetworkManager-wait-onli

Re: NetworkManager-wait-online is still utterly, and completely, broken

2017-12-18 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/17/2017 01:17 PM, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 11:49:39 -0800 Gordon Messmer wrote: In order to determine that, someone who can reproduce the problem needs to revert that specific change on their system. With that declaration in /etc/fstab: Y:/data2

Re: NetworkManager-wait-online is still utterly, and completely, broken

2017-12-18 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/18/2017 05:52 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Time IP addresses == 08:35:34 08:35:35 192.168.0.1 At 08:35:34 the server had no IP addresses Well, it probably had 127.0.0.1, which brings into question what the complete state of the network was. Could you arrange to

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