Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

On 3/10/24 14:39, Thomas Cameron wrote: ... but that's always the case with the myriad of fora which which I interact. Correction, I meant to write "that's not* always the case..." -- Thomas -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

On 03/10/2024 01:39 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: Where did I write that I did that at all? The Fedora forum *can* send emails, as Kevin pointed out, but that's always the case with the myriad of fora which which I interact. If so, as I pointed out before, you don't need to keep all of those tabs

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

On 03/10/2024 01:46 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: On 3/10/24 14:39, Thomas Cameron wrote: ... but that's always the case with the myriad of fora which which I interact. Correction, I meant to write "that's not* always the case..." OK, fair enough. But you still don't need to keep tabs constant

Re: Email Balkanization (was Re: Fora vs. mailing lists)

On 3/10/24 14:17, Dave Close wrote: To me the analogy is, in the olden days, a company sending you postal mail in care of the local post office, the PO sending you a post card that something has arrived, and you having to go to the PO and show your identification to retrieve the item. No one woul

Re: port forwarding and RDP or ssh

On 3/10/24 09:23, Alex wrote: I believe Cinnamon is just a window manager on top of GNOME? It's not. It's independent from Gnome. >     My current preferred method is to use rustdesk.  There's an rpm >     available from the website.  I run my own server and relay for it, so

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

Hello Thomas, On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 11:40:05 -0500 Thomas Cameron wrote: > > > Quick definition: fora is the plural of forum, as in a web based forum to > discuss a topic or technology, like https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/. > > Having said that... > > I love mailing lists. I have filt

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 21:19:27 +0100 wwp wrote: > Tried fora a a while when I was forced to and finally gave up with 80% > of them So who's working on a web forum/email interface that is totally independent of the web forum so the forum couldn't stop you from using email even if they wanted to? See

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

> On 10 Mar 2024, at 19:21, Thomas Cameron > wrote: > > For fora, I have to explicitly remember that I've even posted something > (which is often a problem due to the ADHD), then open a new browser or tab, > go to the forum, log in, find my message, and see if there are any responses > or w

Re: Email Balkanization (was Re: Fora vs. mailing lists)

> On 10 Mar 2024, at 20:03, Thomas Cameron > wrote: > > Basically, the fora require you to open a browser/tab, log in, and only > *then* can you read your message You log in once only, the login is remembered in a cookie. Just only and close the tab as needed. Barry -- _

Re: Email Balkanization (was Re: Fora vs. mailing lists)

On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 22:23:04 + Barry wrote: > You log in once only, the login is remembered in a cookie. > Just only and close the tab as needed. On some forums, not on others. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscrib

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

On Sun, 2024-03-10 at 11:40 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote: > I love mailing lists. I have filters set up they silently go to the > correct mail folder, I can read through them at my leisure, and I > only > have to deal with one client - my mail client. My mail client > defaults > to sane viewing r

Re: Configuring LXC containers

On Sun, 2024-03-10 at 11:13 -0700, Mike Wright wrote: > The last two lines are key.  Add these flags: -F -o logfile.  The > default loglevel is ERROR.  If you want more detail include -l LEVEL. > > e.g. lxc-start -n containerName -F -o containerName.log -l WARN > This is what I get: $ lxc-star

Re: Marble problem: libicui18n.so.69

On 3/10/24 01:53, Barry wrote: On 10 Mar 2024, at 06:06, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: root@rn6:/home$ marble marble: error while loading shared libraries: libicui18n.so.69: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Looks like a packaging issue on the surface. Suggest yo

Re: Marble problem: libicui18n.so.69

On 3/10/24 03:35, Barry Scott wrote: On 10 Mar 2024, at 06:06, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: root@rn6:/home$ marble marble: error while loading shared libraries:libicui18n.so .69: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I just installed marble on

Re: Marble problem: libicui18n.so.69

On 3/10/24 15:52, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 3/10/24 03:35, Barry Scott wrote: On 10 Mar 2024, at 06:06, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: root@rn6:/home$ marble marble: error while loading shared libraries:libicui18n.so .69: cannot open shared object file: No suc

Re: Marble problem: libicui18n.so.69

On 3/10/24 16:17, Samuel Sieb wrote: You keep dropping the leading "l" from your searches.  The package is called "libicu". ah poop! Good catch. # dnf whatprovides libicui18n\* --releasever=39 Last metadata expiration check: 0:40:30 ago on Sun 10 Mar 2024 03:54:32 PM PDT. ... libicu-73.2-2

Re: Marble problem: libicui18n.so.69

On 3/10/24 16:40, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 3/10/24 16:17, Samuel Sieb wrote: You keep dropping the leading "l" from your searches.  The package is called "libicu". ah poop!  Good catch. # dnf whatprovides libicui18n\* --releasever=39 Last metadata expiration check: 0:40:30 ago on Sun

Re: Marble problem: libicui18n.so.69

On 3/10/24 16:40, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: And this is interesting: # dnf install libicu-73.2-2.fc39.x86_64 Fedora 39 - x86_64   18 kB/s |  24 kB 00:01 Fedora 39 openh264 (From Cisco) - x86_64    4.6 kB/s | 989  B 00:00 Fedora 39 - x86_64 - Updates   

Re: Marble problem: libicui18n.so.69

On 3/10/24 16:52, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 3/10/24 16:40, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: And this is interesting: # dnf install libicu-73.2-2.fc39.x86_64 Fedora 39 - x86_64   18 kB/s |  24 kB 00:01 Fedora 39 openh264 (From Cisco) - x86_64    4.6 kB/s | 989  B 00:00 F

Re: Marble problem: libicui18n.so.69

On 3/10/24 18:39, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 3/10/24 16:52, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 3/10/24 16:40, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: And this is interesting: # dnf install libicu-73.2-2.fc39.x86_64 Fedora 39 - x86_64   18 kB/s |  24 kB 00:01 Fedora 39 openh264 (From

Re: Marble problem: libicui18n.so.69

On 3/10/24 19:18, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 3/10/24 18:39, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 3/10/24 16:52, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 3/10/24 16:40, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: And this is interesting: # dnf install libicu-73.2-2.fc39.x86_64 Fedora 39 - x86_64   18 kB/s |

Re: Configuring LXC containers

On 3/10/24 15:40, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2024-03-10 at 11:13 -0700, Mike Wright wrote: The last two lines are key.  Add these flags: -F -o logfile.  The default loglevel is ERROR.  If you want more detail include -l LEVEL. e.g. lxc-start -n containerName -F -o containerName.log -l W

Re: Marble problem: libicui18n.so.69

On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 8:40 PM ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 3/10/24 19:18, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 3/10/24 18:39, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > >> On 3/10/24 16:52, Samuel Sieb wrote: > >>> On 3/10/24 16:40, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > And this is interesting: > > # d

Re: Marble problem: libicui18n.so.69

On 3/10/24 20:16, Jerry James wrote: On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 8:40 PM ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 3/10/24 19:18, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 3/10/24 18:39, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 3/10/24 16:52, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 3/10/24 16:40, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: And this is interestin

Re: Marble problem: libicui18n.so.69

On 3/10/24 19:40, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 3/10/24 19:18, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 3/10/24 18:39, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 3/10/24 16:52, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 3/10/24 16:40, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: And this is interesting: # dnf install libicu-73.2-2.fc39.x86_64 Fedora 39

Re: Marble problem: libicui18n.so.69

On 3/10/24 21:48, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 3/10/24 19:40, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 3/10/24 19:18, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 3/10/24 18:39, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 3/10/24 16:52, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 3/10/24 16:40, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: And this is interesting: # dnf insta

Re: Marble problem: libicui18n.so.69

On 3/10/24 22:28, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 3/10/24 21:48, Samuel Sieb wrote: I doubt the bug report will come up with anything since this is something very specific to your system.  Do you have any packages from fc37?  Do you have any locked packages?  Have you installed any self-built

Re: Configuring LXC containers

On 3/10/24 15:40, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2024-03-10 at 11:13 -0700, Mike Wright wrote: The last two lines are key.  Add these flags: -F -o logfile.  The default loglevel is ERROR.  If you want more detail include -l LEVEL. e.g. lxc-start -n containerName -F -o containerName.log -l W

Re: ghost town

On Sun, 2024-03-10 at 09:50 +, Barry wrote: > The majority of user traffic is on https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/ > these days. I flatly refuse to use webforums. They're extremely inconvenient. Email comes to me, I can go through it in my spare time as I see fit. Websites waste my tim

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 11:40:05 AM -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote: > > > Quick definition: fora is the plural of forum, as in a web based forum to > discuss a topic or technology, like https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/. > > Having said that... > > I love mailing lists. I have filters set up they

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

Thomas Cameron: >> I hate using fora. I generally have to open a separate tab for each >> forum I'm on, and I'm on a LOT. Joe Zeff: > Why keep a separate tab for each forum open at all times? How many of > them do you actually need to look at each day? Firstly, I thoroughly agree with all of T

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

On Sun, 2024-03-10 at 11:32 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > However, realize that you spend a long time setting all that up. > The subscriptions, filtering, how things look in your email client, etc. > For someone new or just wanting to ask a question or two, lists are > horrible. I say forums aren't

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

Joe Zeff wrote (about web forums): > why don't you simply set as many of them as possible to email you > when there's a reply? Have you noticed how many of them won't let you reply to an email notification? Essentially you get a "someone left you a message" message, no details on what the messag

Re: ghost town

> On 9 Mar 2024, at 16:27, Tim via users wrote: > > some tumbleweeds drift through The majority of user traffic is on https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/ these days. Barry -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: Marble problem: libicui18n.so.69

> On 10 Mar 2024, at 06:06, ToddAndMargo via users > wrote: > > root@rn6:/home$ marble > marble: error while loading shared libraries: libicui18n.so.69: cannot open > shared object file: No such file or directory Looks like a packaging issue on the surface. Suggest you report as a bug in fe

Re: Marble problem: libicui18n.so.69

> On 10 Mar 2024, at 06:06, ToddAndMargo via users > wrote: > > root@rn6:/home$ marble > marble: error while loading shared libraries: libicui18n.so > .69: cannot open shared object file: No such file or > directory I just installed marble on f39 and its works. I have

Re: port forwarding and RDP or ssh

Hi, > Hi, I have a fedora38 system on Optonline with port 1024 forwarded from > > the router to 1024 on the fedora38 system where ssh is listening. I'm > > currently using the following to connect: > > > > $ ssh -i ~/.ssh/mykey-key.rsa -L 5901:127.0.0.1:5901 > > -Y -l gary

Re: port forwarding and RDP or ssh

On 3/10/24 07:01, Alex wrote: I'm not clear on if you want to do desktop sharing or a remote X connection.  For an application like evolution, I would suggest desktop sharing.  If you want to run evolution and have it display on your screen using X forwarding, then you just need t

Re: port forwarding and RDP or ssh

Hi, > I'm not clear on if you want to do desktop sharing or a remote X > > connection. For an application like evolution, I would suggest > desktop > > sharing. If you want to run evolution and have it display on your > > screen using X forwarding, then you just need the "-X" opt

Configuring LXC containers

I'd like to play with LXC but I find the docs not very newbie-friendly. I'm trying to follow a guide at: https://brandonrozek.com/blog/lxc-fedora-38/ (basically because it mentions Fedora). I followed the steps closely and rebooted, but I get the following error: $ systemd-run --unit=my-unit

Fora vs. mailing lists

Quick definition: fora is the plural of forum, as in a web based forum to discuss a topic or technology, like https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/. Having said that... I love mailing lists. I have filters set up they silently go to the correct mail folder, I can read through them at my le

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

On 03/10/2024 10:40 AM, Thomas Cameron wrote: I hate using fora. I generally have to open a separate tab for each forum I'm on, and I'm on a LOT. Why keep a separate tab for each forum open at all times? How many of them do you actually need to look at each day? -- __

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

On 3/10/24 12:04, Joe Zeff wrote: Why keep a separate tab for each forum open at all times?  How many of them do you actually need to look at each day? I'm not saying that. What I AM saying, is that every time I need to go to a forum, I have to open a separate tab. It's a pain. Also, if I

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

On 3/10/24 09:40, Thomas Cameron wrote: Quick definition: fora is the plural of forum, as in a web based forum to discuss a topic or technology, like https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/. Having said that... I love mailing lists. I have filters set up they silently go to the correct mail

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

On 03/10/2024 11:14 AM, Thomas Cameron wrote: I'm not saying that. What I AM saying, is that every time I need to go to a forum, I have to open a separate tab. It's a pain. You only need to have a tab open for a forum when you're actively using it. Why are you going out of your way to make

Re: Configuring LXC containers

On 3/10/24 09:39, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I'd like to play with LXC but I find the docs not very newbie-friendly. I'm trying to follow a guide at: https://brandonrozek.com/blog/lxc-fedora-38/ (basically because it mentions Fedora). I followed the steps closely and rebooted, but I get the fol

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

On 2024-03-10 12:40, Thomas Cameron wrote: Quick definition: fora is the plural of forum, as in a web based forum to discuss a topic or technology, like https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/. Having said that... I love mailing lists. I have filters set up they silently go to the correct ma

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 11:40:05AM -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote: > > > Quick definition: fora is the plural of forum, as in a web based forum to > discuss a topic or technology, like https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/. > > Having said that... > > I love mailing lists. I have filters set up th

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

On 3/10/24 12:40, Thomas Cameron wrote: Am I the only one who feels this way? Has the day finally come where I'm just old and set in my ways? Are there others who prefer mailing lists to fora? I agree with all you said. I've been on the Internet a long time. Heck, anyone remember bang

Virtualization: Windows 32-bit i686 guest not working on Fedora 39 x86_64 ?

After 'dnf system-upgrade...' my machine from F37 x86_64 to F39, win7-32 guest did not start due to BSOD 0x007B boot problem, while win10 64-bit works fine on the same machine. I then tried: - a newly created virtual machine consisting only of Win7-32 or Win10-32 installation ISO image fre

Email Balkanization (was Re: Fora vs. mailing lists)

Thomas Cameron wrote: > Well said. I'm in full agreement. I see a possibly related condition that also irritates me. The Balkanization of "email" (quotes deliberate). You want to send an email message to some company but you don't know their address. You check their web site and find a page, "sen

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

On 3/10/24 12:58, Joe Zeff wrote: You only need to have a tab open for a forum when you're actively using it.  Why are you going out of your way to make your life difficult? I'm not sure why you're refusing to understand my point here. It's that, in an email list, it's all in one place, and it

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

On 3/10/24 13:32, Kevin Fenzi wrote: So, I agree with you about the push vs pull factor, so I interact with discussion.fedoraproject.org via email. 🙂 https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/guide-to-interacting-with-this-site-by-email/25960 You can decide what tags you want to 'subscribe' to, it

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

On 03/10/2024 01:20 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: I'm not sure why you're refusing to understand my point here. Oh, I understand your point, I just think that you're going out of your way to make your life more difficult than it needs to be. Instead of keeping each forum open on a tab and obses

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

On 3/10/24 14:32, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/10/2024 01:20 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: I'm not sure why you're refusing to understand my point here. Oh, I understand your point, I just think that you're going out of your way to make your life more difficult than it needs to be.  Instead of keeping