Re: Python code error in F39, but not in F38

2023-11-23 Thread Barry
> On 22 Nov 2023, at 22:21, Ranjan Maitra via users > wrote: > > #4 sipOMFinalise (om=0x7fff9e5ff9a0 ) at /usr/src/debug/ It is a bug in the sip code is my strong expectation. I would also guess that tstate is likely 0 and causing a SEGV. What did sip do to damage the tstate (thread state I

How to get rid of current color selection in terminal?

2023-11-23 Thread Peter Boy
The current selection of color in Server ASCII terminal (not in Gnome terminal) and the choice of the prompt including the complete current path is quite awful for people who are dependent on glasses due to eye sight problems, for example. How can I switch back to the F38 of better F36 configur

Re: How to get rid of current color selection in terminal?

2023-11-23 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/23/23 01:48, Peter Boy wrote: The current selection of color in Server ASCII terminal (not in Gnome terminal) and the choice of the prompt including the complete current path is quite awful for people who are dependent on glasses due to eye sight problems, for example. How can I switch b

Re: How to get rid of current color selection in terminal?

2023-11-23 Thread Peter Boy
> Am 23.11.2023 um 10:51 schrieb Samuel Sieb : > > On 11/23/23 01:48, Peter Boy wrote: >> The current selection of color in Server ASCII terminal (not in Gnome >> terminal) and the choice of the prompt including the complete current path >> is quite awful for people who are dependent on glasse

Re: Python code error in F39, but not in F38

2023-11-23 Thread Ranjan Maitra via users
On Thu Nov23'23 08:28:36AM, Barry wrote: > From: Barry > Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 08:28:36 + > To: Community support for Fedora users > CC: Ranjan Maitra > Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users > Subject: Re: Python code error in F39, but not in F38 > > > > > On 22 Nov 2023, at 22:21,

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-23 Thread Michael Hennebry
By now, I am fairly sure that the reason firefox freezes on me is neither a lack of memory nor a lack of CPU. My inference is that it is waiting for something. How do I discover what? -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just thinking about the life of a pumpkin. Grow up in the su

weekly patches crippled my display.

2023-11-23 Thread home user
(f38; home workstation; dual monitor; using nvidia 4xx kmod and akmod from rpmfusion) A short while ago, I did my weekly patches.  After rebooting, only one monitor is displaying anything, and then with a large, wide font.  I saw no indication of trouble during the "dnf upgrade". The boot messa

OT: X11: how to make cut-and-paste with mouse also work on every window

2023-11-23 Thread Ranjan Maitra via users
Hi, I know this is OT, but someone here might know the answer to this. So, I like the ability to highlight with my mouse left button, and paste with my middle (scroll) button. It works on `xterm` but not necessarily on my firefox window (some other windows too, but I do not recall now). Is ther

Re: weekly patches crippled my display.

2023-11-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/23/2023 01:02 PM, home user wrote: I'm not a sys.admin., and the display is very limited.  What's the cause of these problems, and how do I fix things? The first thing is probably to examine /var/log/boot.log to see if there are any clues there. --

Re: weekly patches crippled my display.

2023-11-23 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/23/23 12:02, home user wrote: (f38; home workstation; dual monitor; using nvidia 4xx kmod and akmod from rpmfusion) A short while ago, I did my weekly patches.  After rebooting, only one monitor is displaying anything, and then with a large, wide font.  I saw no indication of trouble dur

Re: weekly patches crippled my display.

2023-11-23 Thread home user
On 11/23/23 1:10 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/23/2023 01:02 PM, home user wrote: I'm not a sys.admin., and the display is very limited.  What's the cause of these problems, and how do I fix things? The first thing is probably to examine /var/log/boot.log to see if there are any clues there. --

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-23 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 2:21 PM Michael Hennebry wrote: > > By now, I am fairly sure that the reason firefox freezes > on me is neither a lack of memory nor a lack of CPU. > My inference is that it is waiting for something. > How do I discover what? I would investigate the virtual memory system.

Re: weekly patches crippled my display.

2023-11-23 Thread home user
On 11/23/23 1:43 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/23/23 12:02, home user wrote: (f38; home workstation; dual monitor; using nvidia 4xx kmod and akmod from rpmfusion) A short while ago, I did my weekly patches.  After rebooting, only one monitor is displaying anything, and then with a large, wide f

Re: OT: X11: how to make cut-and-paste with mouse also work on every window

2023-11-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 14:03:14 -0600 Ranjan Maitra via users wrote: > Is there a way to set this up so that it can work reliably on every window? I'm pretty sure the answer is "no" unfortunately. How windows operate on keystrokes and mouse buttons is up to the individual apps. Some apps can be con

Re: weekly patches crippled my display.

2023-11-23 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/23/23 12:52, home user wrote: On 11/23/23 1:43 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/23/23 12:02, home user wrote: (f38; home workstation; dual monitor; using nvidia 4xx kmod and akmod from rpmfusion) A short while ago, I did my weekly patches.  After rebooting, only one monitor is displaying an

Re: weekly patches crippled my display.

2023-11-23 Thread John Pilkington
On 23/11/2023 22:25, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/23/23 12:52, home user wrote: On 11/23/23 1:43 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/23/23 12:02, home user wrote: (f38; home workstation; dual monitor; using nvidia 4xx kmod and akmod from rpmfusion) A short while ago, I did my weekly patches.  After rebo

Re: weekly patches crippled my display.

2023-11-23 Thread home user
On 11/23/23 1:43 PM, home user wrote: On 11/23/23 1:10 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/23/2023 01:02 PM, home user wrote: I'm not a sys.admin., and the display is very limited.  What's the cause of these problems, and how do I fix things? The first thing is probably to examine /var/log/boot.log t

Re: weekly patches crippled my display.

2023-11-23 Thread home user
On 11/23/23 1:52 PM, home user wrote: On 11/23/23 1:43 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/23/23 12:02, home user wrote: (f38; home workstation; dual monitor; using nvidia 4xx kmod and akmod from rpmfusion) A short while ago, I did my weekly patches.  After rebooting, only one monitor is displaying

Re: Python code error in F39, but not in F38

2023-11-23 Thread Barry
> On 23 Nov 2023, at 14:18, Ranjan Maitra via users > wrote: > > One aspect to note is that the C code (not by me) is from 1988, though last > updated in 1997. It is not clear to me if that is a plus (because programmers > had the time to be more careful in those days) or a minus (because mo

Re: weekly patches crippled my display.

2023-11-23 Thread home user
On 11/23/23 3:25 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/23/23 12:52, home user wrote: On 11/23/23 1:43 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/23/23 12:02, home user wrote: (f38; home workstation; dual monitor; using nvidia 4xx kmod and akmod from rpmfusion) A short while ago, I did my weekly patches.  After rebo

Re: weekly patches crippled my display.

2023-11-23 Thread home user
On 11/23/23 3:43 PM, John Pilkington wrote: On 23/11/2023 22:25, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/23/23 12:52, home user wrote: On 11/23/23 1:43 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/23/23 12:02, home user wrote: (f38; home workstation; dual monitor; using nvidia 4xx kmod and akmod from rpmfusion) A short wh

Re: weekly patches crippled my display.

2023-11-23 Thread Barry
> On 23 Nov 2023, at 23:19, home user wrote: > > If I do the "/usr/sbin/akmods --force" suggested by "akmods", will that mess > up future handling of kernel and nvidia-470xx by "dnf upgrade"? I expect that you rebooted before akmod finished compiling and installing the new nvidia drivers. Do

Re: weekly patches crippled my display.

2023-11-23 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/23/23 15:17, home user wrote: On 11/23/23 3:25 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: I think it will compile against any kernels that need it.  Which kernel are you running and which one do you need? I'm wanting to use the kernel installed by today's patches: "6.5.12-200.fc38.x86_64". The kernel befo

Re: weekly patches crippled my display.

2023-11-23 Thread home user
(responding to both Barry and Samuel... On 11/23/23 4:26 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/23/23 15:17, home user wrote: On 11/23/23 3:25 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: I think it will compile against any kernels that need it.  Which kernel are you running and which one do you need? I'm wanting to use th

Re: weekly patches crippled my display.

2023-11-23 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/23/23 15:39, home user wrote: -bash.8[~]: /usr/sbin/akmods --force Checking kmods exist for 6.5.12-200.fc38.x86_64    [  OK  ] Building and installing nvidia-470xx-kmod  [FAILED] Building rpms failed; see /var/cache/akmods/nvidia-470xx/470.223.02-1-for-6.5.12-200.fc

Re: weekly patches crippled my display.

2023-11-23 Thread home user
On 11/23/23 4:56 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/23/23 15:39, home user wrote: Where is the "6.5.12" kernel coming from, since you don't actually have it installed?  Try dnf upgrading your kernel. -- -- -bash.12[~]: uname -a Linux coyote 6.5.12-200.fc38.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Mon No

Re: weekly patches crippled my display.

2023-11-23 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/23/23 16:00, home user wrote: On 11/23/23 4:56 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/23/23 15:39, home user wrote: Where is the "6.5.12" kernel coming from, since you don't actually have it installed?  Try dnf upgrading your kernel. -- -- -bash.12[~]: uname -a Linux coyote 6.5.12-200.fc3

Re: weekly patches crippled my display.

2023-11-23 Thread home user
On 11/23/23 5:04 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/23/23 16:00, home user wrote: On 11/23/23 4:56 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/23/23 15:39, home user wrote: Where is the "6.5.12" kernel coming from, since you don't actually have it installed?  Try dnf upgrading your kernel. -- -- -bash.12[

Re: weekly patches crippled my display.

2023-11-23 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/23/23 16:07, home user wrote: On 11/23/23 5:04 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/23/23 16:00, home user wrote: On 11/23/23 4:56 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/23/23 15:39, home user wrote: Where is the "6.5.12" kernel coming from, since you don't actually have it installed?  Try dnf upgrad

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-23 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 2:21?PM Michael Hennebry wrote: By now, I am fairly sure that the reason firefox freezes on me is neither a lack of memory nor a lack of CPU. My inference is that it is waiting for something. How do I discover what? I would

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-23 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/23/23 16:53, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 2:21?PM Michael Hennebry wrote: By now, I am fairly sure that the reason firefox freezes on me is neither a lack of memory nor a lack of CPU. My inference is that it is waiting for s

chromium will not start

2023-11-23 Thread Michael Hennebry
I recently installed the chromium browser on F38. It won't start. At least it won't stay started very long. When I start it from the command line, I get this: $ chromium-browser [297210:297210:1123/181637.109041:ERROR:process_singleton_posix.cc(353)] The profile appears to be in use by another

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-23 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 23 Nov 2023 at 18:53, Michael Hennebry wrote: Date sent: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 18:53:41 -0600 (CST) From: Michael Hennebry To: noloa...@gmail.com, Community support for Fedora users Subject:Re: firefox keeps freezing on m

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-23 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Samuel Sieb wrote: Have you checked the journal? I had this happen on a computer that definitely wasn't low on memory and the journal had a bunch of messages from firefox about timeouts. journalctl and then what? -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "I was just

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-23 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/23/23 17:12, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Samuel Sieb wrote: Have you checked the journal?  I had this happen on a computer that definitely wasn't low on memory and the journal had a bunch of messages from firefox about timeouts. journalctl  and then what? I used "jou

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-23 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/23/23 17:12, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Samuel Sieb wrote: Have you checked the journal?  I had this happen on a computer that definitely wasn't low on memory and the journal had a bunch of messages from firefox about timeouts.

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-23 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/23/23 17:37, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/23/23 17:12, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Samuel Sieb wrote: Have you checked the journal?  I had this happen on a computer that definitely wasn't low on memory and the journal had a bunc

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

2023-11-23 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/23/23 17:37, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/23/23 17:12, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2023, Samuel Sieb wrote: Have you checked the journal?  I had this happen on a computer that definitely wasn't low on memory and the journal had a bunc

Re: weekly patches crippled my display.

2023-11-23 Thread home user
On 11/23/23 5:53 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/23/23 16:07, home user wrote: On 11/23/23 5:04 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/23/23 16:00, home user wrote: On 11/23/23 4:56 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/23/23 15:39, home user wrote: Where is the "6.5.12" kernel coming from, since you don't act

Re: weekly patches crippled my display.

2023-11-23 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2023-11-23 at 15:44 -0700, home user wrote: > I have no idea how to remove the strange character sequences from the output, > so here it is raw: > -- > 352:[^[[0;32m OK ^[[0m] Stopped ^[[0;1;39mkmod-static-nodes.…reate List of > Static Device Nodes. > 364:[^[[0;32m OK ^[[0m] Creat

Re: weekly patches crippled my display.

2023-11-23 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/23/23 19:00, home user wrote: I'm as much at a loss as you as to what really happened in the mid-day dnf commands.  I'm also at a loss as to why the clean-up this evening had so many failures. It kind of sounds like the earlier upgrade failed somehow. You could check the logs from that

Re: weekly patches crippled my display. [SOLVED]

2023-11-23 Thread home user
On 11/23/23 8:52 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/23/23 19:00, home user wrote: I'm as much at a loss as you as to what really happened in the mid-day dnf commands.  I'm also at a loss as to why the clean-up this evening had so many failures. It kind of sounds like the earlier upgrade failed som

Re: weekly patches crippled my display.

2023-11-23 Thread home user
On 11/23/23 8:20 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Thu, 2023-11-23 at 15:44 -0700, home user wrote: I have no idea how to remove the strange character sequences from the output, so here it is raw: -- 352:[^[[0;32m OK ^[[0m] Stopped ^[[0;1;39mkmod-static-nodes.…reate List of Static Device Nodes

Re: chromium will not start

2023-11-23 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/23/23 17:04, Michael Hennebry wrote: I recently installed the chromium browser on F38. It won't start.  At least it won't stay started very long. When I start it from the command line, I get this: $ chromium-browser [297210:297210:1123/181637.109041:ERROR:process_singleton_posix.cc(353)]

Re: OT: X11: how to make cut-and-paste with mouse also work on every window

2023-11-23 Thread Ranjan Maitra via users
On Thu Nov23'23 04:01:08PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > From: Tom Horsley > Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 16:01:08 -0500 > To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users > Subject: Re: OT: X11: how to make cut-and-paste with mouse also work on > every window > > On Thu, 23 No