Re: Why Fedora/RHEL/CentOS Stream is not boot from other Linux district?

2023-11-16 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 11:33 AM fedoraUser 2023 wrote: > > Fedora/CentOS/RHEL boot only from this grub. When install Fedora and CentOS, > CentOS no boot from Fedora boot loader, Fedora no boot From CentOS boot > loader. Why? Have you updated GRUB recently? As I understand things, GRUB is not

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 15:10 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 11/15/23 15:02, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 14:20 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > On 11/14/23 05:52, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > My system (both F38 and now F39) reboots itself every morning > > > > at > > >

Re: Strange daily reboot

2023-11-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 21:53 -0600, Robert Nichols wrote: > > On 11/15/23 17:10, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > > On 11/15/23 15:02, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 14:20 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > > > > > > On 11/14/23 05:52, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > > > > >

Re: Strange daily reboot

2023-11-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 15:46 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > Tim: > > > Strategic attack kittens? > > > > > > But being serious, is the hardware clock set correctly? > > Patrick O'Callaghan: > > As reported by hwclock, yes > > > > Is everything else fine at 8?  You're not getting a mains power div

thunderbird forgets location in a folder

2023-11-16 Thread fedora
fc38 tb 115.4.1 I sort my mail into many folders, using message filters. When I select a folder, the list of messages is focused somewhere in the past, nowhere near the last item I opened (normally the latest). I have to scroll down to bring the message into view, and it is usually highlighted

redhat-lsb-submod-security ???

2023-11-16 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, I am in the process of purging all the fc38 packages from my fc39 install. What is "redhat-lsb-submod-security"? And do I need it on fc39? No other package is dependent on it. Many thanks, -T -- ~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfun

netcdf

2023-11-16 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, Fedora 39 netcdf-4.9.0-5.fc38.x86_64 (Note the "38") What is "netcdf" and why would I need it in fc39? Many thanks, -T # dnf remove netcdf --releasever=39 Dependencies resolved. ===

libvirt-designer* ???

2023-11-16 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Fedora 39 I use qemu-kvm virtual machines all the time. Do I need these fc38 (not 39) packages still? # dnf reinstall libvirt-designer* --releasever=39 Last metadata expiration check: 3:41:31 ago on Wed 15 Nov 2023 11:45:16 PM PST. Installed package libvirt-designer-0.0.2-19.fc38.x86_64 (from

Re: thunderbird forgets location in a folder

2023-11-16 Thread David Timms
On 16/11/23 21:55, fed...@eyal.emu.id.au wrote: fc38 tb 115.4.1 I sort my mail into many folders, using message filters. When I select a folder, the list of messages is focused somewhere in the past, nowhere near the last item I opened (normally the latest). I have to scroll down to bring the

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 09:59 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Seriously though, in the end I did watch it with hibernation disabled, > and sure enough the "smart" power plug turned itself off and on again > at 08:00. > > I've checked and rechecked the settings on the thing, and it > positively,

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 22:15 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 09:59 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Seriously though, in the end I did watch it with hibernation > > disabled, > > and sure enough the "smart" power plug turned itself off and on > > again > > at 08:00. > > > >

Re: LightDM and MATE

2023-11-16 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/14/23 01:47, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: No to ask to silly a questions, but does the USB spin of MATE use LightDM? Many thanks, -T Well if the Live USB of MATE is any indication, MATE is using LightDM: $ ps ax | grep -i [l]ight 1187 ?Ssl0:00 /usr/sbin/lightdm 1208 t

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Roger Heflin
You might look in the bios. Some of the bioses have an option to turn on at a specific time each day. On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 4:00 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 15:10 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 11/15/23 15:02, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > On Wed, 2023-11-15 at

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Roger Heflin
Given it is the same time each day, I am guessing "feature" rather than bug. It may also be that the power plug resets/reboots itself once a day and that the reboot does a quick power blip that is quick enough to not matter for non-computer devices. Device makers love to find and implement half-a

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 07:08 -0600, Roger Heflin wrote: > You might look in the bios.  Some of the bioses have an option to > turn on at a specific time each day. The plug has no accessible BIOS, if that's what you mean. poc ___ users mailing list -- use

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 07:15 -0600, Roger Heflin wrote: > Given it is the same time each day, I am guessing "feature" rather > than bug. > > It may also be that the power plug resets/reboots itself once a day > and that the reboot does a quick power blip that is quick enough to > not matter for non

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Go Canes
On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 8:43 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I've emailed the manufacturer (TP-Link), though without much > expectation of a reply. > > If it is as you say, it's a design fault. The power cycle is a definite > Off, wait a second or so, then On. I have TP-Link KASA EP10 smart plugs

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 11:04 -0500, Go Canes wrote: > On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 8:43 AM Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > I've emailed the manufacturer (TP-Link), though without much > > expectation of a reply. > > > > If it is as you say, it's a design fault. The power cycle is a > > definite > > Of

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Ralf Corsépius
Am 16.11.23 um 14:39 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan: On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 07:08 -0600, Roger Heflin wrote: You might look in the bios.  Some of the bioses have an option to turn on at a specific time each day. The plug has no accessible BIOS, if that's what you mean. I guess, the OP meant yo

Re: redhat-lsb-submod-security ???

2023-11-16 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/16/23 02:57, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I am in the process of purging all the fc38 packages from my fc39 install. That's not necessarily a good idea. Sometimes packages get carried forward for various reasons and are still needed as you found in the other email. What is "redhat-

Re: netcdf

2023-11-16 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/16/23 03:02, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Fedora 39 netcdf-4.9.0-5.fc38.x86_64   (Note the "38") What is "netcdf" and why would I need it in fc39? It's a data storage format (usually numeric data). Apparently, it didn't get rebuilt yet for F39. -- ___

adding static routes on fc38

2023-11-16 Thread Alex
Hi, I have a fedora38 server that's been updated to new versions many times over the years. It seems now I'm having a problem with the static route I created many years ago no longer being supported. I knew this was coming, but I'm unfamiliar with the new methods. I'm using the old network-tools m

Re: adding static routes on fc38

2023-11-16 Thread Peter Boy
> Am 16.11.2023 um 22:06 schrieb Alex : > > Hi, > > I have a fedora38 server that's been updated to new versions many times over > the years. It seems now I'm having a problem with the static route I created > many years ago no longer being supported. I knew this was coming, but I'm > unfami

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/16/23 04:03, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I had installed this thing as a simple solution to waking up the hibernating machine without having to futz around with Wake On Lan, which I have no experience with and which apparently can be flaky depending on what the BIOS supports. A more reliable

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 19:09 +0100, Ralf Corsépius wrote: > > > Am 16.11.23 um 14:39 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan: > > On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 07:08 -0600, Roger Heflin wrote: > > > You might look in the bios.  Some of the bioses have an option to > > > turn on at a specific time each day. > > > > T

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 14:13 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 11/16/23 04:03, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I had installed this thing as a simple solution to waking up the > > hibernating machine without having to futz around with Wake On Lan, > > which I have no experience with and which apparently

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Roger Heflin
No, we both mean use the bios timed wake up to wake up your machine instead of the plug for anything. On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 4:14 PM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 19:09 +0100, Ralf Corsépius wrote: > > > > > > Am 16.11.23 um 14:39 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan: > > > On Thu,

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 16:25 -0600, Roger Heflin wrote: > No, we both mean use the bios timed wake up to wake up your machine > instead of the plug for anything. Ah, I misunderstood. I hadn't realised that was even possible. For now, I've factory reset the plug and will see what happens tomorrow m

Re: netcdf

2023-11-16 Thread Richard
> Date: Thursday, November 16, 2023 12:44:31 -0800 > From: Samuel Sieb > > On 11/16/23 03:02, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >> >> Fedora 39 >> netcdf-4.9.0-5.fc38.x86_64   (Note the "38") >> >> What is "netcdf" and why would I need it in fc39? > > It's a data storage format (usually numeric da

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Roger Heflin
I checked a mb bios from 10 years ago and it is in it. And I checked a 2 year old one and both have it. RTC Alarm Power On Allow the system to be waked up by the real time clock alarm. Set it to By OS to let it be handled by your operating system. web page for setting the timer from linux: https

Obscure rsyslog question on remote logging

2023-11-16 Thread Tom Horsley
I've got an old PC running Truenas as a local server for backups, videos, etc. I've got another PC I consider my "main" system running rsyslog. On this PC I have tried (mostly successfully) to direct remote syslog messages from the Truenas system to logfiles in a subdirectory on my main system. Th

Re: Obscure rsyslog question on remote logging

2023-11-16 Thread Go Canes
On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 7:51 PM Tom Horsley wrote: > # Log incoming message from remote systems here > $template DynamicFile,"/var/log/loghost/%HOSTNAME%/%syslogfacility-text%.log" > :hostname, contains, "nast" > *.*-?DynamicFile > > Most remote log message do indeed get redirected to the subd

Re: Obscure rsyslog question on remote logging

2023-11-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 20:09:26 -0500 Go Canes wrote: > Any chance there is a rule for logging SMART messages that is taking > precedence? A good thing to check. I'll see if I can decrypt the .conf file and figure that out. Thanks. -- ___ users mailing li

Re: redhat-lsb-submod-security ???

2023-11-16 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/16/23 12:43, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/16/23 02:57, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I am in the process of purging all the fc38 packages from my fc39 install. That's not necessarily a good idea.  Sometimes packages get carried forward for various reasons and are still needed as you found i

Re: Obscure rsyslog question on remote logging

2023-11-16 Thread Todd Zullinger
Tom Horsley wrote: > I've got an old PC running Truenas as a local server for backups, > videos, etc. > > I've got another PC I consider my "main" system running rsyslog. > On this PC I have tried (mostly successfully) to direct remote > syslog messages from the Truenas system to logfiles in a sub

Re: Obscure rsyslog question on remote logging

2023-11-16 Thread Roger Heflin
I have seen syslog messages over 4096 chars have the first part go to the right file and the overflow go to the default. Is smart sending a large message? The other file would have a long smart message at the same time and this would be overflow. On Thu, Nov 16, 2023, 6:51 PM Tom Horsley wrote:

Re: redhat-lsb-submod-security ???

2023-11-16 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/16/23 02:57, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I am in the process of purging all the fc38 packages from my fc39 install. What is "redhat-lsb-submod-security"? And do I need it on fc39?  No other package is dependent on it. Many thanks, -T $ dnf info redhat-lsb-submod-security La

Re: Obscure rsyslog question on remote logging

2023-11-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 20:46:33 -0500 Todd Zullinger wrote: > I'd probably do this in the newer "advanced" format (AKA > RainerScript) instead of the "obsolete legacy" format. I > believe this would do what you want: I'm just adding a bit to the .conf file that ships with the rpm, and it is using t

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Tim via users
Roger Heflin wrote: >> No, we both mean use the bios timed wake up to wake up your machine >> instead of the plug for anything. Patrick O'Callaghan: > Ah, I misunderstood. I hadn't realised that was even possible. Way back in the day of my brief torture of Win98SE, I used to explore the BIOS to s

Re: redhat-lsb-submod-security ???

2023-11-16 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 18:36 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > $ dnf info redhat-lsb-submod-security > > Last metadata expiration check: 3:57:51 ago on Thu 16 Nov 2023 02:37:19 > PM PST. > Installed Packages > Name : redhat-lsb-submod-security > Version : 4.1 > Release : 60.

Re: f39 emacs strange behavior?

2023-11-16 Thread Ben Hancock
On 11/12/23 08:12, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Right, now, trying my luck with nvim for writing this email (because mutt for me is linked to an editor, in my case, it was emacs). FWIW, you may want to try `mg` as a backup editor for Emacs. If you're used to Emacs key-bindings, it's sure to be more fa

Re: libvirt-designer* ???

2023-11-16 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/16/23 03:30, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I use qemu-kvm virtual machines all the time. Do I need these fc38 (not 39) packages still? Please don't ask for every F38 package you find. If it's not something you're using and removing it doesn't take away something you're using, then rem