Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

2023-10-05 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 11:22 PM Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/04/2023 06:19 PM, George N. White III wrote: > > You can get some information using the grub prompt. First thing to try > > is ls: > > > > > > Yes, I learned that from the

Fedora 39 Upgrade Test Day is underway!

2023-10-05 Thread Sumantro Mukherjee
Hey All, As we come closer to Fedora 39 release dates, it's time to test upgrades. Fedora 39 has a lot of changesets and it becomes essential that we test the graphical upgrade methods as well as the command line. As a part of this test day[0], we will test upgrading from a full updated, F37 and F

Anyone know of any cards or accessories that allow a desktop to make calls on a cellular network?

2023-10-05 Thread stan via users
When I searched for this, I came up empty. I was thinking that there would be a USB plugin device or a pcie card that allowed a desktop to communicate with a cellular network. Put a sim in it, and bingo, can call using the desktop instead of the smartphone. I think it would be useful for trouble

Anyone have recommendations for using VOIP in fedora?

2023-10-05 Thread stan via users
VOIP has been around for a while, so I am thinking it has to be mature. Is it possible to just install a package and then call standard phone numbers over the web from fedora? I'm not really interested in video calls, just voice, but if the best service also is video, well, so it goes. Is anyone u

Re: Anyone know of any cards or accessories that allow a desktop to make calls on a cellular network?

2023-10-05 Thread Javier Perez
Like this? https://www.amazon.com/Eboxer-Portable-Computer-Wireless-Receiver/dp/B07L5QMPJW/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=1VSGW5NK6KRT7&keywords=4g+modem+card+for+pc&qid=1696516076&sprefix=4g+modem+card+for+pc%2Caps%2C209&sr=8-3 On Thu, Oct 5, 2023, 09:19 stan via users wrote: > When I searched for this, I

RE: Anyone know of any cards or accessories that allow a desktop to make calls on a cellular network?

2023-10-05 Thread J.Witvliet--- via users
See below -Original Message- From: stan via users Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2023 4:19 PM To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Cc: stan Subject: Anyone know of any cards or accessories that allow a desktop to make calls on a cellular network? When I searched for this, I came up empty. I

RE: Anyone have recommendations for using VOIP in fedora?

2023-10-05 Thread J.Witvliet--- via users
-Original Message- From: stan via users Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2023 4:26 PM To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Cc: stan Subject: Anyone have recommendations for using VOIP in fedora? VOIP has been around for a while, so I am thinking it has to be mature. Is it possible to just install

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

2023-10-05 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Wed, Oct 04, 2023 at 04:37:55PM -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/04/2023 03:19 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Unless I missed it, I don't think you've mentioned the laptop brand and model, which might give a clue to someone reading this. Gateway, model GWTN156-78K [ ] Not the model abov

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

2023-10-05 Thread stan via users
On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 20:22:00 -0600 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/04/2023 06:19 PM, George N. White III wrote: > > You can get some information using the grub prompt.  First thing to > > try is ls: > > > > > > This might be related

Re: Anyone have recommendations for using VOIP in fedora?

2023-10-05 Thread stan via users
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 14:35:32 + wrote: > In the good-ol' days when i ran centos, it was (indeed) Jitsi-client > (not jitsi-meet), Ekiga, or linphone. But it sounds that you're not > looking for a real client, but an webrtc package... Actually, I think I am looking for a voip client. I'm a noo

Re: Anyone know of any cards or accessories that allow a desktop to make calls on a cellular network?

2023-10-05 Thread stan via users
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 14:30:52 + wrote: > It is defitely more "than just plu-in a card" > But deploying Asterisk, with a 4G or 5G usb-stick would do the trick. OK, I saw mention of asterisk in the results I found, but I have no idea what a 4G or 5G usb-stick is. Is that something like what

Re: Anyone have recommendations for using VOIP in fedora?

2023-10-05 Thread murph nj
If you want to make phone calls to regular phones, you need something like a SIP service. (Which I know little about) A more simple alternative, if you look into https://jmp.chat they have a free-software-friendly service that allows phone calls and SMS over XMPP which might prove easier to set up

Anyone using 5G as their internet access method?

2023-10-05 Thread stan via users
I recently received an offer from T-mobile to use their 5G network as my main internet access. It was contingent on a contract for phone with them, but the price and speed for internet was competitive. Has anyone done this using fedora, or I suppose, any other system? Horror stories or kudos? T

Re: Anyone have recommendations for using VOIP in fedora?

2023-10-05 Thread stan via users
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 11:13:49 -0400 murph nj wrote: > If you want to make phone calls to regular phones, you need something > like a SIP service. (Which I know little about) And I probably know less. But this gives me a hint of what I'm searching for. > A more simple alternative, if you look int

Re: Anyone know of any cards or accessories that allow a desktop to make calls on a cellular network?

2023-10-05 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2023-10-05 at 08:07 -0700, stan via users wrote: > OK, I saw mention of asterisk in the results I found, but I have no > idea what a 4G or 5G usb-stick is.  Is that something like what Javier > mentioned, an addon that creates a local hotspot?  I can already access > the web from my phone v

Re: Anyone know of any cards or accessories that allow a desktop to make calls on a cellular network?

2023-10-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2023-10-06 at 02:07 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > If you just want to call particular friends, and didn't actually have > to be a phone call, Skype and Zoom are options (they only call other > Skype or Zoom accounts, as far as I know, Skype may have had a pay > for > real phone calls option

Re: Anyone using 5G as their internet access method?

2023-10-05 Thread Andrew Pearce
Hi I know a few people that are using 5G mobile equipment for their internet access, all of them have a 5G SIM in their router. Most find it just works but they sometimes complain of slowdown after the children finish school up about 9 .. 10pm. Regards Andrew On 5 October 2023 16:15:58 sta

Re: Anyone using 5G as their internet access method?

2023-10-05 Thread Terry Polzin
I am running T-mobile 5G supporting W10, multiple Fedora machines, streaming video on smart TVs all at once. No issues for the most part. On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 11:46 AM Andrew Pearce wrote: > Hi > > I know a few people that are using 5G mobile equipment for their internet > access, all of them

Re: Anyone using 5G as their internet access method?

2023-10-05 Thread stan via users
On Thu, 05 Oct 2023 16:45:59 +0100 Andrew Pearce wrote: > I know a few people that are using 5G mobile equipment for their > internet access, all of them have a 5G SIM in their router. Most find > it just works but they sometimes complain of slowdown after the > children finish school up about 9

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

2023-10-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/05/2023 08:39 AM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: Actually that looks like the hardware, your flash thumb, might be fine: it seems grub just can't go any farther than offering the grub prompt, from what-ever reason. But I see reason for optimism regarding your USB device .. My desktop didn't go

Re: Anyone using 5G as their internet access method?

2023-10-05 Thread stan via users
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 11:48:55 -0400 Terry Polzin wrote: > I am running T-mobile 5G supporting W10, multiple Fedora machines, > streaming video on smart TVs all at once. > No issues for the most part. I guess this goes under the kudos column, sounds like a very positive experience. Thanks. ___

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

2023-10-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/05/2023 08:39 AM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: But I'd try to keep things as simple as possible, and in your case I'd try to simply recreate the LiveFedora on the USB drive again, from scratch, and then see what happens: it makes no sense to run around in circles and guess again and again. I

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

2023-10-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/05/2023 08:51 AM, stan via users wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2181989 Basically anaconda/dracut's iso-scan/filename= has been broken since Fedora 37 included, and is still broken in Fedora 39 Beta, meaning the Live iso can't be booted from a USB stick using grub and i

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

2023-10-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/05/2023 04:59 AM, George N. White III wrote: You posted "F12 gets me to BIOS.  If I do, it goes right to the grub prompt". So that no longer works?  Unless you made changes to the BIOS settings, this indicates a hardware problem. How good is the battery?  A very old battery may cause p

Re: Anyone know of any cards or accessories that allow a desktop to make calls on a cellular network?

2023-10-05 Thread stan via users
On Fri, 06 Oct 2023 02:07:54 +1030 Tim via users wrote: > On Thu, 2023-10-05 at 08:07 -0700, stan via users wrote: > > OK, I saw mention of asterisk in the results I found, but I have no > > idea what a 4G or 5G usb-stick is.  Is that something like what > > Javier mentioned, an addon that create

Re: 4k video playback on some videos makes entire system sluggish

2023-10-05 Thread Alex
Hi, > I have a fedora38 desktop and having a problem playing 4k videos. > > When > > playing some videos, my entire system becomes sluggish and slow to > > respond, > > like the system is under extreme load or all resources are consumed > > by > > graphics rendering. > > > > This is the lspci info

Re: Anyone know of any cards or accessories that allow a desktop to make calls on a cellular network?

2023-10-05 Thread stan via users
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 07:18:54 -0700 stan via users wrote: > When I searched for this, I came up empty. I was thinking that there > would be a USB plugin device or a pcie card that allowed a desktop to > communicate with a cellular network. Put a sim in it, and bingo, can > call using the desktop

Re: Anyone know of any cards or accessories that allow a desktop to make calls on a cellular network?

2023-10-05 Thread stan via users
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 07:18:54 -0700 stan via users wrote: > When I searched for this, I came up empty. I was thinking that there > would be a USB plugin device or a pcie card that allowed a desktop to > communicate with a cellular network. Put a sim in it, and bingo, can > call using the desktop

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

2023-10-05 Thread stan via users
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 10:10:40 -0600 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/05/2023 08:51 AM, stan via users wrote: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2181989 > > > > Basically anaconda/dracut's iso-scan/filename= has been broken since > > Fedora 37 included, and is still broken in Fedora 39 Beta, me

Re: Anyone have recommendations for using VOIP in fedora?

2023-10-05 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2023-10-05 07:26, stan via users wrote: VOIP has been around for a while, so I am thinking it has to be mature. Is it possible to just install a package and then call standard phone numbers over the web from fedora? I'm not really interested in video calls, just voice, but if the best service

Re: Anyone have recommendations for using VOIP in fedora?

2023-10-05 Thread stan via users
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 10:47:40 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 2023-10-05 07:26, stan via users wrote: > > VOIP has been around for a while, so I am thinking it has to be > > mature. Is it possible to just install a package and then call > > standard phone numbers over the web from fedora? I'm not re

Re: How do I stop this malware

2023-10-05 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sat, 30 Sep 2023, George N. White III wrote: On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 11:19?AM Michael Hennebry < henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote: This is trying to cure the disease by eliminating a symptom. You don't know what is happening behind that full screen. Going fullscreen is part if what

Re: Question regarding sudo and su

2023-10-05 Thread old sixpack13
> On 10/03/2023 03:35 PM, old sixpack13 wrote: > > If you're using that exact same command often enough, create an alias > for it and put it into your .bashrc. That way, you not only save > keystrokes, you avoid typoes. KISS bash history CRTL+r and keyed in "ether" and ENTER thanks anyway ! _

Re: Question regarding sudo and su

2023-10-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/05/2023 12:20 PM, old sixpack13 wrote: KISS bash history CRTL+r and keyed in "ether" and ENTER thanks anyway ! That works, of course, if the line you need to repeat is different every time. If it's something you use all the time, either a one-liner script, or an alias in .bashrec migh

Re: How do I stop this malware

2023-10-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/05/2023 12:10 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: Going fullscreen is part if what makes it hard to even try to make it go away. It sounds like you may need an indirect approach. Can you get to a different virtual console? If so, you may be able to find and kill the malware using top. If no

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

2023-10-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/05/2023 11:29 AM, stan via users wrote: I don't know that. But, Adam said that this was working in F36, so you might be able to install the F36 live iso, and then upgrade to F38. F36 only went EOL a few months ago, so everything should still be functioning, low bit rot. This reminds me t

Re: 4k video playback on some videos makes entire system sluggish

2023-10-05 Thread Roger Heflin
what does vainfo show? You may need to install it. You are looking for something like below, I believe the main10 is what is needed for your video. VAProfileHEVCMain : VAEntrypointVLD VAProfileHEVCMain10 : VAEntrypointVLD You may need to then confirm that yo

Re: How do I stop this malware

2023-10-05 Thread Roger Heflin
On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 1:11 PM Michael Hennebry wrote: > > On Sat, 30 Sep 2023, George N. White III wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 11:19?AM Michael Hennebry < > > henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote: > > > This is trying to cure the disease by eliminating a symptom. You don't > > know wha

Solved: Re: Anyone know of any cards or accessories that allow a desktop to make calls on a cellular network?

2023-10-05 Thread stan via users
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 07:18:54 -0700 stan via users wrote: > When I searched for this, I came up empty. I was thinking that there > would be a USB plugin device or a pcie card that allowed a desktop to > communicate with a cellular network. Put a sim in it, and bingo, can > call using the desktop

Re: 4k video playback on some videos makes entire system sluggish

2023-10-05 Thread Alex
Hi, On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 2:59 PM Roger Heflin wrote: > what does vainfo show? You may need to install it. You are looking > for something like below, I believe the main10 is what is needed for > your video. > > VAProfileHEVCMain : VAEntrypointVLD > VAProfileHEVCMain1

Re: 4k video playback on some videos makes entire system sluggish

2023-10-05 Thread Alex
Hi, On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 3:38 PM Alex wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 2:59 PM Roger Heflin wrote: > >> what does vainfo show? You may need to install it. You are looking >> for something like below, I believe the main10 is what is needed for >> your video. >> >> VAProfileHEVCM

Re: 4k video playback on some videos makes entire system sluggish

2023-10-05 Thread Roger Heflin
You might try uninstalling mesa-va-drivers and replacing with this: mesa-va-drivers-freeworld one of my 2 machines was ok and a 2nd one looked closer to what yours looked like. And replacing with freeworld it now looks much better and has a lot more accelerators. On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 2:40 PM A

Re: 4k video playback on some videos makes entire system sluggish

2023-10-05 Thread Stephen Morris
On 6/10/23 07:04, Roger Heflin wrote: You might try uninstalling mesa-va-drivers and replacing with this: mesa-va-drivers-freeworld one of my 2 machines was ok and a 2nd one looked closer to what yours looked like. And replacing with freeworld it now looks much better and has a lot more acceler

Re: 4k video playback on some videos makes entire system sluggish

2023-10-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2023-10-06 at 08:20 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 6/10/23 07:04, Roger Heflin wrote: > > You might try uninstalling mesa-va-drivers and replacing with this: > > mesa-va-drivers-freeworld > > > > one of my 2 machines was ok and a 2nd one looked closer to what > > yours > > looked like.

Re: Solved: Re: Anyone know of any cards or accessories that allow a desktop to make calls on a cellular network?

2023-10-05 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2023-10-05 12:34, stan via users wrote: On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 07:18:54 -0700 stan via users wrote: When I searched for this, I came up empty. I was thinking that there would be a USB plugin device or a pcie card that allowed a desktop to communicate with a cellular network. Put a sim in it,

Re: 4k video playback on some videos makes entire system sluggish

2023-10-05 Thread Roger Heflin
I did not look at the size, I was looking for the encoder since that was likely to be what was causing his issue. I just checked and the width and height are close to 4k. Really anything close to and/or over 2500 x 1440 is probably close enough to 4k from the point of view of trying to play it.

Re: 4k video playback on some videos makes entire system sluggish

2023-10-05 Thread Alex
Hi, You might try uninstalling mesa-va-drivers and replacing with this: > mesa-va-drivers-freeworld > > one of my 2 machines was ok and a 2nd one looked closer to what yours > looked like. > > And replacing with freeworld it now looks much better and has a lot > more accelerators. > I've done tha

Re: How do I stop this malware

2023-10-05 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023, Roger Heflin wrote: On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 1:11?PM Michael Hennebry wrote: On Sat, 30 Sep 2023, George N. White III wrote: On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 11:19?AM Michael Hennebry < henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote: This is trying to cure the disease by eliminating a sy

Re: How do I stop this malware

2023-10-05 Thread Joe Wulf via users
FF doesn't provide the fidelity to kill 'just one tab'. On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 10:06:30 PM EDT, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 5 Oct 2023, Roger Heflin wrote: > On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 1:11?PM Michael Hennebry > wrote: >> >> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023, George N. White III wrote: >>

F38 installer claims it cannot find a hard disk

2023-10-05 Thread Michael Hennebry
I burned the F38 workstation installer onto a DVD. On booting it can find my home directory on the only hard disk. When I tell the installer to install, it claims it cannot find a hard drive. Grrr. The first time I got the message, I just rebooted. On the second boot, I looked for my home direct

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

2023-10-05 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2023-10-05 at 10:13 -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: > As I've written many times, F12 only gets me to the BIOS if the drive's > not inserted. And, the laptop's only about two, maybe three years old > at most. Could be a timing issue. Have you tried hammering away at the F12 key as soon as you s

Re: How do I stop this malware

2023-10-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/05/2023 08:05 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: I can switch to another virtual console, but do not know how to kill just one tab. I can got out of it by disconnecting the ethernet cable, but would rather disconnect with the GUI. I don't think that you can kill one tab or one window, but killin

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

2023-10-05 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2023-10-05 at 09:57 -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: > My desktop didn't go right to the grub prompt, it gave me a menu first, > but ended up at the prompt. Any explanation that doesn't include that, > or the fact that the laptop booted OK at the shop can't be right. That almost sounds like a dri

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

2023-10-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/05/2023 08:18 PM, Tim via users wrote: But considering you said it did boot some other live distro in the shop, it's probably just something about Fedora's booting. I'm going to download F35, the version I used when I bought the laptop, install from that to avoid the known bug, then upgr

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

2023-10-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/05/2023 08:22 PM, Tim via users wrote: I don't recall you showing the output from any commands in the GRUB prompt, such as ls. Which would show drives and content that it finds. I'll be glad to do that if, and only if a flash drive with F35 on it fails. If it works, I'll just assume th

Re: Anyone know of any cards or accessories that allow a desktop to make calls on a cellular network?

2023-10-05 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> A 4G/5G usb-stick is essentially a mobile phone modem in the USB >> stick. So, similar to connecting your computer to your phone and >> using your phone as a modem. stan > Is that what is called 'tethering'? Tethering refers to networking through your phone, essentially your phone is a mo

Re: Anyone know of any cards or accessories that allow a desktop to make calls on a cellular network?

2023-10-05 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2023-10-05 at 10:07 -0700, stan via users wrote: > What I think I can glean from these pages, is that it requires software > on both the phone and the pc. I can well imagine trying to link a computer to a phone will end up with lots of "I can't hear you, can you hear me?" phone calls. Las

Re: Anyone know of any cards or accessories that allow a desktop to make calls on a cellular network?

2023-10-05 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2023-10-05 at 10:07 -0700, stan via users wrote: > What I think I can glean from these pages, is that it requires software > on both the phone and the pc. Oh, and the other thing... If you want to receive calls, your system has to be always running. This is where standalone devices have

Re: Anyone using 5G as their internet access method?

2023-10-05 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2023-10-05 at 08:15 -0700, stan via users wrote: > I recently received an offer from T-mobile to use their 5G network as > my main internet access. It was contingent on a contract for phone > with them, but the price and speed for internet was competitive. That's emerging around here. I

Re: How do I stop this malware

2023-10-05 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2023-10-05 at 21:05 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > I can switch to another virtual console, > but do not know how to kill just one tab. > I can got out of it by disconnecting the ethernet cable, > but would rather disconnect with the GUI. I always set up the kill the X server hotkey sequ

Re: How do I stop this malware

2023-10-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/05/2023 09:15 PM, Tim via users wrote: It's a pity there isn't a hotkey for killing just the frontmost/topmost program. ALT+F4 will close the top/front window, if they're obeying control, but I mean instantly killing the topmost window despite what it wants. There's a force quit taskbar a

Re: Anyone using 5G as their internet access method?

2023-10-05 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 11:15 AM stan via users wrote: > > I recently received an offer from T-mobile to use their 5G network as > my main internet access. It was contingent on a contract for phone > with them, but the price and speed for internet was competitive. Has > anyone done this using fed

Re: F38 installer claims it cannot find a hard disk

2023-10-05 Thread Barry
> On 6 Oct 2023, at 03:12, Michael Hennebry > wrote: > > I burned the F38 workstation installer onto a DVD. > On booting it can find my home directory on the only hard disk. > When I tell the installer to install, > it claims it cannot find a hard drive. Grrr. > > The first time I got the m