Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On Tue, 2023-10-03 at 23:28 -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: > I've downloaded and verified an .iso for F38 with Xfce, used dd to write > it to a new flash drive and tried to boot it on my laptop with a brand > new blank hard drive. All I get is a grub prompt. Has that laptop ever booted successfully fro

grub options

Hi, I usually avoid "rhgb" in the boot command as I like to see what happens. I did this editing the /etc/default/grub and removing it and it did work for a long time. In the last few kernel updates it did not work and rhgb is in the boot line. I grubby-ed it away but the following update put i

Re: grub options

> Hi, > > I usually avoid "rhgb" in the boot command as I like to see what > happens. I did > this editing the /etc/default/grub and removing it and it did work for > a long time. > In the last few kernel updates it did not work and rhgb is in the boot > line. > I grubby-ed it away but the foll

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 5:21 AM Tim via users wrote: > On Tue, 2023-10-03 at 23:28 -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: > > I've downloaded and verified an .iso for F38 with Xfce, used dd to write > > it to a new flash drive and tried to boot it on my laptop with a brand > > new blank hard drive. All I get is

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

the easiest way is Ventoy, (https://www.ventoy.net/en/index.html ) if you want to install OS from .iso file ... - Original Message - From: "George N. White III" To: Community support for Fedora users Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 08:24:07 -0300 Subject: Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On Wed, Oct 04, 2023 at 08:24:07AM -0300, George N. White III wrote: Check the vendor's site and web for reports of problems booting USB devices on your model. There may be a BIOS update. .. this, yes. But I'm extremely hesitant with BIOS upgrades - if they fail, and there's no recovery opt

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/04/2023 02:21 AM, Tim via users wrote: Has that laptop ever booted successfully from a USB-anything? Are there any BIOS/UEFI booting options you can play with? When I picked it up at the ship, it was running a live system off a flash drive. If there are any booting options, I don't kno

Re: grub options

On 10/04/2023 04:24 AM, Thomas wrote: I had this issue and it's referred in a number of bugs on bugzilla, such as:https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1925776 Either edit /etc/kernel/cmdline to remove the option or use grubby that updates both sets of files and the entries on /boot as w

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/04/2023 05:24 AM, George N. White III wrote: Check the vendor's site and web for reports of problems booting USB devices on your model.   There may be a BIOS update.   I think some boot issues on older systems are due to code that doesn't support current USB capacities and filesystems. I

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/04/2023 07:50 AM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: If a thumb drive isn't detected at the BIOS boot menu chances are high that either the download for the installed ISO went south or the thumb simply is broken. It's a new drive, the .iso checksum was OK and it does the same thing on my desktop,

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On Wed, Oct 04, 2023 at 10:56:59AM -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/04/2023 07:50 AM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: If a thumb drive isn't detected at the BIOS boot menu chances are high that either the download for the installed ISO went south or the thumb simply is broken. It's a new drive [ ... ]

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/04/2023 12:37 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: That's no guarantee that the drive works. I'd try another one, especially given that it also fails on your desktop. And as you already mentioned that you saw the laptop running a live system off a flash drive suggests that the machine has no specif

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/04/2023 12:37 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: And when you're in that boot menu you might actually see your USB drive show up as a boot option. Or that's at least what I would expect. If you don't see the drive there, I'd again try another one The laptop's BIOS obviously sees the drive beca

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 2:59 PM Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 10/04/2023 12:37 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > The laptop's BIOS obviously sees the drive because if the drive's > inserted when I turn it on, it ignores any and all F keys and tries to > boot from it. And, my desktop had no trouble writing t

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/04/2023 01:28 PM, Go Canes wrote: If I understand correctly, on the same laptop: - you can boot off the hard drive and then download the iso file. You can then insert the USB flash drive and copy the iso to the flash drive using dd. - the flash drive passes the checksum test No! The lap

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 3:39 PM Joe Zeff wrote: > [...] The laptop has a new, unformatted hard drive because the old one is > dead. When I picked up my laptop after the brain transplant (I don't do > hardware. Ever.) I used my desktop to create the drive off of an .iso > that I downloaded from

Re: grub options

On 10/4/23 12:49, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/04/2023 04:24 AM, Thomas wrote: I had this issue and it's referred in a number of bugs on bugzilla, such as:https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1925776 Either edit /etc/kernel/cmdline to remove the option or use grubby that updates both sets of

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/04/2023 02:16 PM, Go Canes wrote: I don't use live images, so I don't know if they have a problem with the RAID/non-RAID setting. Worst case I would think it would at least boot but just not be able to access the hard drive if the settings were incompatible. Totally irrelevant. Neither

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/04/2023 02:16 PM, Go Canes wrote: - on the laptop, boot off of the USB drive. If it gives you the expected menu, choose the option for verifying the media. If I could do that, I wouldn't be asking about a grub prompt, would I? ___ users mailing

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/4/23 13:25, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/04/2023 02:16 PM, Go Canes wrote: - on the laptop, boot off of the USB drive.  If it gives you the expected menu, choose the option for verifying the media. If I could do that, I wouldn't be asking about a grub prompt, would I? Working from the grub pr

Re: grub options

On 10/04/2023 02:20 PM, Robert McBroom via users wrote: If you have a time delay set on the boot menu you can use the e command to change the cmdline. ctl/x then boots. The change is then persistent the nest time a kernel is installed. I never get to the boot menu. It just jumps directly

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 4:25 PM Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 10/04/2023 02:16 PM, Go Canes wrote: > > - on the laptop, boot off of the USB drive. If it gives you the > > expected menu, choose the option for verifying the media. > > If I could do that, I wouldn't be asking about a grub prompt, would I?

4k video playback on some videos makes entire system sluggish

Hi, I have a fedora38 desktop and having a problem playing 4k videos. When playing some videos, my entire system becomes sluggish and slow to respond, like the system is under extreme load or all resources are consumed by graphics rendering. This is the lspci info for my video card: 07:00.0 VGA c

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/04/2023 02:30 PM, Mike Wright wrote: Working from the grub prompt: https://superuser.com/questions/1237684/how-to-boot-from-grub-shell This gives roughly the same instructions as https://www.linuxfoundation.org/blog/blog/classic-sysadmin-how-to-rescue-a-non-booting-grub-2-on-linux, whi

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/04/2023 02:47 PM, Go Canes wrote: My fault - I had understood the grub prompt was using a live image as opposed to my suggestion of using the server net install image. That's what it's supposed to do, but it never gets as far as a menu. ___ user

Re: 4k video playback on some videos makes entire system sluggish

On Wed, 2023-10-04 at 16:48 -0400, Alex wrote: > Hi, > > I have a fedora38 desktop and having a problem playing 4k videos. > When > playing some videos, my entire system becomes sluggish and slow to > respond, > like the system is under extreme load or all resources are consumed > by > graphics re

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On Wed, 2023-10-04 at 13:38 -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/04/2023 01:28 PM, Go Canes wrote: > > If I understand correctly, on the same laptop: > > - you can boot off the hard drive and then download the iso file.  > > You > > can then insert the USB flash drive and copy the iso to the flash > > dr

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/04/2023 03:19 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Unless I missed it, I don't think you've mentioned the laptop brand and model, which might give a clue to someone reading this. Gateway, model GWTN156-78K Also, and sorry to be obvious, but have you checked the laptop manufacturer's website

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 7:38 PM Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/04/2023 03:19 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Unless I missed it, I don't think you've mentioned the laptop brand and > > model, which might give a clue to someone reading this. > > > > Gateway, model GWTN156-78K > > > Also, and sorry to b

Re: 4k video playback on some videos makes entire system sluggish

On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 5:49 PM Alex wrote: > Hi, > > I have a fedora38 desktop and having a problem playing 4k videos. When > playing some videos, my entire system becomes sluggish and slow to respond, > like the system is under extreme load or all resources are consumed by > graphics rendering.

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/04/2023 06:19 PM, George N. White III wrote: You can get some information using the grub prompt.  First thing to try is ls: Yes, I learned that from the guide I linked to. Alas, things are different enough that I have