Re: cpan build perl-PDL-Graphics-PLplot

2022-07-17 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, It seems that the issue has been fixed in PDL-Graphics-PLplot-0.83 === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire interdisciplinaire Carnot de Bourgogne 9 Avenue Alain Savar

altas-devel

2022-07-17 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, Before fc36 atals-devel provided /usr/include/clapack.h Now clapack.h is /usr/include/atlas-x86_64-base/clapack.h Why such a change? It requires to modify source files. === Patrick DUPRÉ

Re: are there typical ways Fedora tends to break?

2022-07-17 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2022-07-16 at 13:55 -0600, James Szinger wrote: > I find Gnome 3 unusable, so I use Mate instead of Workstation. +1 -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.71.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 28 15:37:28 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I

Re: altas-devel

2022-07-17 Thread Francis . Montagnac
Hi. On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 10:09:42 +0200 Patrick Dupre wrote: > Hello, > Before fc36 > atals-devel provided /usr/include/clapack.h > Now > clapack.h is > /usr/include/atlas-x86_64-base/clapack.h > Why such a change? The changelog of the atlas-devel RPM explain why: * Tue Apr 20 2021 Jakub M

distorted audio from KVM guest

2022-07-17 Thread Eyal Lebedinsky
Running f36 (up-to-date, host and guest) and following a recently update audio started to be very distorted. Playing anything on the host is fine, but on the guest it is very bad. This is the case with system sounds and with vlc, so it looks systemic. Anyone else sees (hears) this? -- Eyal Lebe

Re: distorted audio from KVM guest

2022-07-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 20:30:18 +1000 Eyal Lebedinsky wrote: > Anyone else sees (hears) this? The only VM I've ever tried to use audio with is my Windows 10 VM and audio has always been horrible, very scratchy and delayed start with beginnings of streams always cut off. _

perl-PDL

2022-07-17 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, Trying to recompile my codes with fc36 I get numerous issues. One in with perl-PDL I get Cores.xs:123:17: error: too many arguments to function ‘PDL->converttype’ 123 | PDL -> converttype (array, PDL_D, 1) ; | ^~~ Cores.xs:146:37: warning: passing ar

Re: perl-PDL

2022-07-17 Thread George N. White III
On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 10:12 AM Patrick Dupre wrote: > Hello, > > Trying to recompile my codes with fc36 I get numerous issues. > One in with perl-PDL > I get > > Cores.xs:123:17: error: too many arguments to function ‘PDL->converttype’ > 123 | PDL -> converttype (array, PDL_D,

Re: are there typical ways Fedora tends to break?

2022-07-17 Thread James Szinger
On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 15:00:45 -0600 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 7/16/22 13:55, James Szinger wrote: > > I find Gnome 3 unusable, so I use Mate instead of Workstation. > > When I read a description of what Gnome 3 would be, I started hunting > around and ended up with Xfce, before Gnome 3 was released

Re: Long timeouts on logging out/shutting down

2022-07-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2022-07-16 at 18:55 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 23:27:21 +0100 > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > Is anyone else seeing this? > > Possibly not precisely the same, but I found that systemd "user > demons" > were continuing to run forever even when the user logged out, a

Re: are there typical ways Fedora tends to break?

2022-07-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2022-07-17 at 08:02 -0600, James Szinger wrote: > On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 15:00:45 -0600 > Joe Zeff wrote: > > > On 7/16/22 13:55, James Szinger wrote: > > > I find Gnome 3 unusable, so I use Mate instead of Workstation.  > > > > When I read a description of what Gnome 3 would be, I started

Re: are there typical ways Fedora tends to break?

2022-07-17 Thread James Szinger
On Fri, 15 Jul 2022 14:41:09 -0400 Chris Murphy wrote: > What portion of the failures are early boot failures? (Defined as > bootloader, kernel, or early initramfs failures. But excludes being > landed at a dracut prompt.) One thing that Fedora Linux REALLY needs is the file /usr/share/doc/grub2

Re: are there typical ways Fedora tends to break?

2022-07-17 Thread George N. White III
On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 3:43 PM Chris Murphy wrote: > Hi, > > I have a request for list regulars. > > The Fedora Workstation working group is curious if there's any pattern > or categorization how Fedora installations typically break. i.e. the > installation is successful, the system has been upd

Re: distorted audio from KVM guest

2022-07-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2022-07-17 at 08:04 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 20:30:18 +1000 > Eyal Lebedinsky wrote: > > > Anyone else sees (hears) this? > > The only VM I've ever tried to use audio with is my Windows 10 > VM and audio has always been horrible, very scratchy and delayed > start wi

Re: Long timeouts on logging out/shutting down

2022-07-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 15:17:56 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > OK. Where is that configured (too lazy to look it up :-)? I made this chage: "DefaultTimeoutStopSec=5s" in both /etc/systemd/system.conf and /etc/systemd/user.conf ___ users mailing list --

Re: are there typical ways Fedora tends to break?

2022-07-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 08:22:32 -0600 James Szinger wrote: > describes how to > customize grub After fighting with the "convenient" /etc/default/grub parameters for years to make grub do what I want, I finally gave up and now have a perl script that runs after any dnf update to hit the grub.cfg file

Re: Long timeouts on logging out/shutting down

2022-07-17 Thread stan via users
On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 10:27:52 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: > I made this chage: "DefaultTimeoutStopSec=5s" in both > /etc/systemd/system.conf and /etc/systemd/user.conf Thank you. I tried to make this change, but I must not have found the right variable or location because it didn't take. Long stan

Re: are there typical ways Fedora tends to break?

2022-07-17 Thread stan via users
On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 15:21:42 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > This > isn't a "right or wrong" thing, it's just a matter of taste. Hammer, nail, head. It isn't denigrating Gnome or KDE or ... to say that I don't prefer them. They obviously turn a lot of people's crank, since there are people

Re: Long timeouts on logging out/shutting down

2022-07-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2022-07-17 at 10:27 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 15:17:56 +0100 > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > OK. Where is that configured (too lazy to look it up :-)? > > I made this chage: "DefaultTimeoutStopSec=5s" in both > /etc/systemd/system.conf and /etc/systemd/user.conf

Re: altas-devel

2022-07-17 Thread George N. White III
On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 6:12 AM wrote: > > Hi. > > On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 10:09:42 +0200 Patrick Dupre wrote: > > > Hello, > > > Before fc36 > > atals-devel provided /usr/include/clapack.h > > Now > > clapack.h is > > /usr/include/atlas-x86_64-base/clapack.h > > > Why such a change? > > The changelo

Re: Long timeouts on logging out/shutting down

2022-07-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2022-07-17 at 17:03 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2022-07-17 at 10:27 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > > On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 15:17:56 +0100 > > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > OK. Where is that configured (too lazy to look it up :-)? > > > > I made this chage: "DefaultTimeou

Re: Long timeouts on logging out/shutting down

2022-07-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2022-07-17 at 17:13 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2022-07-17 at 17:03 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sun, 2022-07-17 at 10:27 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > > > On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 15:17:56 +0100 > > > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > > > OK. Where is that configur

Re: Long timeouts on logging out/shutting down

2022-07-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 17:39:35 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Turns out that you do have to edit the standard > file(s) to have any effect. That has been true for so many things, I don't even bother to try out the "correct" way any longer. I just use my big hammer to fix things after every dnf

Re: Long timeouts on logging out/shutting down

2022-07-17 Thread Francis . Montagnac
Hi. On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 17:39:35 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> Actually, according to systemd-system.conf(5), it looks like the >> proper place to do this is with a file under >> /usr/lib/systemd/system.conf.d, similar to the old rc.d init files. >> Presumably that will avoid the setting be

Re: are there typical ways Fedora tends to break?

2022-07-17 Thread stan via users
On Fri, 15 Jul 2022 14:41:09 -0400 Chris Murphy wrote: Caveat: Running rawhide since it was F35 > The Fedora Workstation working group is curious if there's any pattern > or categorization how Fedora installations typically break. i.e. the > installation is successful, the system has been update

Re: are there typical ways Fedora tends to break?

2022-07-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 11:27:48 -0700 stan via users wrote: > I think the build system should have > automatic checks to determine that all dependent packages are being > rebuilt as part of a package build. I have suggested in the past that the repos should have an extra layer of checks before being

Re: Long timeouts on logging out/shutting down

2022-07-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2022-07-17 at 19:14 +0200, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: > > Hi. > > On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 17:39:35 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > Actually, according to systemd-system.conf(5), it looks like the > > > proper place to do this is with a file under > > > /usr/lib/systemd/system.co

Re: are there typical ways Fedora tends to break?

2022-07-17 Thread stan via users
On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 14:42:09 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 11:27:48 -0700 > stan via users wrote: > > > I think the build system should have > > automatic checks to determine that all dependent packages are being > > rebuilt as part of a package build. > > I have suggested in

Re: are there typical ways Fedora tends to break?

2022-07-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 7/17/22 12:27, stan via users wrote: NA I always boot to runlevel 3, and start X from there. When I first started using Linux as a secondary OS, I did that too. Then, I realized that I was doing almost everything in X and decided that it was silly not to boot into runlevel 5. Is there a

Re: are there typical ways Fedora tends to break?

2022-07-17 Thread stan via users
On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 14:28:00 -0600 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 7/17/22 12:27, stan via users wrote: > > NA I always boot to runlevel 3, and start X from there. > > When I first started using Linux as a secondary OS, I did that too. > Then, I realized that I was doing almost everything in X and dec

Re: Long timeouts on logging out/shutting down

2022-07-17 Thread Stephen Morris
On 18/7/22 04:41, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2022-07-17 at 19:14 +0200, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: Hi. On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 17:39:35 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Actually, according to systemd-system.conf(5), it looks like the proper place to do this is with a file under /usr

Re: Long timeouts on logging out/shutting down

2022-07-17 Thread Mike Wright
On 7/17/22 16:26, Stephen Morris wrote: On 18/7/22 04:41, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2022-07-17 at 19:14 +0200, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: Hi. On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 17:39:35 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Actually, according to systemd-system.conf(5), it looks like the proper p

Re Re: Long timeouts on logging out/shutting down

2022-07-17 Thread R. G. Newbury
On 2022-07-17 15:17, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 17:39:35 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Actually, according to systemd-system.conf(5), it looks like the proper place to do this is with a file under /usr/lib/systemd/system.conf.d, similar to the old rc.d init files. Pr

Re: Re Re: Long timeouts on logging out/shutting down

2022-07-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 20:48:59 -0400 R. G. Newbury wrote: > And also reminds me why Linux can be considered a cult, as there are > arcane and unknown rules controlling how things work. I always say "Without google, linux itself would be impossible." ___

Re: Long timeouts on logging out/shutting down

2022-07-17 Thread Stephen Morris
On 18/7/22 10:18, Mike Wright wrote: On 7/17/22 16:26, Stephen Morris wrote: On 18/7/22 04:41, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2022-07-17 at 19:14 +0200, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: Hi. On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 17:39:35 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Actually, according to systemd-syst

diagnosing XFS corruption after upgrading to Fedora 36

2022-07-17 Thread Patrick Hemmer
Ever since upgrading to Fedora 36, my root filesystem is getting corrupted every few hours. I maintain block level backups, and I have to restore every time this happens. xfs_repair can fix the filesystem, but the system is typically unusable as there's often over 10k files in lost+found. I hav