several Rawhide questions

2020-04-14 Thread David
Is it correct to say Rawhide updated today from version 33-0.3 to 33-0.4, and what does that mean ? Or does that update just mean the repo was renamed or renumbered, or something like that ? Is 33.-0.4 noticeably better than 33-0.3, or are the tiny incremental improvements and regressions nearly

What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-14 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
Good afternoon from Singapore, What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server? Because I think both RHEL and Fedora Server are from Red Hat Inc. When do I use RHEL? When do I use Fedora Server? I am looking forward to hearing from you soon. Thank you. -- -BEGIN EMAIL SIGNA

Re: device names

2020-04-14 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 12:44 AM Tom Horsley wrote: > On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 00:26:28 +0200 Tom H wrote: > >> The improvement's when you have a multiple NICs > > Right, but they should have special cased a single NIC system > and just left the name eth0, would have avoided vast amounts > of trouble f

Re: Where is the bootloader installed on GPT formatted disk?

2020-04-14 Thread spike
Hi Gordon, On 12.04.20 09:07, Gordon Messmer wrote: > To answer the question in the subject: The bootloader is installed on the > /boot/efi filesystem, and referenced by path in NVRAM (See the "efibootmgr" > command). Thanks! Didn't know about efibootmgr. And you're absolutely correct, of cours

Re: Where is the bootloader installed on GPT formatted disk?

2020-04-14 Thread spike
Hi Richard On 12.04.20 14:43, Richard Shaw wrote: > Yes, you don't have a MBR with GPT, you should be booting with UEFI, however, > if you need to BIOS boot a GPT partitioned disk, it's telling you what you > need, just could use some more details. Yes, I think so, too. Especially since the the

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-14 Thread Tim via users
Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server? Because I > think both RHEL and Fedora Server are from Red Hat Inc. > > When do I use RHEL? > > When do I use Fedora Server? There will be plenty of webpages that already give answers to such questi

Re: SELinux is blocking hibernate

2020-04-14 Thread Markus Schönhaber
13.04.20, 19:28 CEST sixpack13: > and what happens if you perform the above two commands (everyone with > "sudo" prefixed) > > sudo ausearch -c 'systemd-sleep' --raw | audit2allow -M my-systemdsleep That way, ausearch will run with elevated privileges but audit2allow will not. That's probably n

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-14 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
Noted with thanks. On 2020-04-14 18:09, Tim via users wrote: Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server? Because I think both RHEL and Fedora Server are from Red Hat Inc. When do I use RHEL? When do I use Fedora Server? There will be plent

Re: Desktop files in F31

2020-04-14 Thread Greg Woods
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 7:10 PM Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 4/13/20 5:44 PM, Greg Woods wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 4:47 PM Samuel Sieb > > wrote > > > > .desktop files are not really supported any more as things to see or > > click on. > > > > I guess I didn't

Re: SELinux is blocking hibernate

2020-04-14 Thread sixpack13
On 14.04.20 12:49, Markus Schönhaber wrote: ... sudo ausearch -c 'systemd-sleep' --raw | audit2allow -M my-systemdsleep That way, ausearch will run with elevated privileges but audit2allow will not. That's probably not what you intended. yup, thanks for the hint. -- sixpack13 _

nfs vs samba

2020-04-14 Thread bruce
Hi Not a flame war. I'm going to have a use case, where I spin up a lot of cloud VM. The worker VM does some work, and then returns the resulting work/files to a single VM. I'm looking at doing a NFS/Samba server for the storage VM. Any thoughts one way or the other. The storage VM will be acce

Re: several Rawhide questions

2020-04-14 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 02:14:03AM -0500, David wrote: > Is it correct to say Rawhide updated today from version 33-0.3 to > 33-0.4, and what does that mean ? Rawhide is unversioned, so that's not correct. The fedora-release package version just indicates what OS # it will become. The package re

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-14 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 05:01:50PM +0800, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server? Because I > think both RHEL and Fedora Server are from Red Hat Inc. Fedora Server is from the Fedora Project, which is a community sponsored largely by Red Ha

Re: nfs vs samba

2020-04-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/14/20 8:58 AM, bruce wrote: Not a flame war.  I'm going to have a use case, where I spin up a lot of cloud VM. The worker VM does some work, and then returns the resulting work/files to a single VM.  I'm looking at doing a NFS/Samba server for the storage VM. Any thoughts one way or the ot

Re: nfs vs samba

2020-04-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 10:04:03 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > Samba ... will be a lot harder to get configured correctly. I can vouch for that. Once the security freaks removed public shares, it took me something like three years to wait for google searches to catch up to new samba and finally tell me

FC31 : Virtual Machine Manager creates unsupported config

2020-04-14 Thread sean darcy
I'm trying to create a small virtual guest for debian using Virtual Machine Manager. I accept all the defaults, but: Unable to complete install: 'unsupported configuration: 'directory' storage format is not directly supported by QEMU, use 'dir' disk type instead' Traceback (most recent cal

dnf update question

2020-04-14 Thread David
I use the following command to update $ sudo dnf update & flatpak update Is there a better way to do this. Does anyone have a script or alias thing that does all that with just sudo dufu or something simple ? I am aware, that all I have to do is hit the up arrow key, and it will

Re: dnf update question

2020-04-14 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 4/14/20 1:33 PM, David wrote: > I use the following command to update > > $ sudo dnf update & flatpak update > > Is there a better way to do this. Does anyone have a script or > alias thing > that does all that with just sudo dufu or something simple ? Why not just put     ali

Re: dnf update question

2020-04-14 Thread sixpack13
On 14.04.20 19:33, David wrote: I use the following command to update $ sudo dnf update & flatpak update Is there a better way to do this. Does anyone have a script or alias thing that does all that with just sudo dufu or something simple ? I am aware, that all I have to do

Re: FC31 : Virtual Machine Manager creates unsupported config

2020-04-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/14/20 10:32 AM, sean darcy wrote: The virt io tab shows storage format as "dir". I can't figure out the location of the actual xml file that VMM creates. Sigh. /etc/libvirt/qemu ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscri

Re: FC31 : Virtual Machine Manager creates unsupported config

2020-04-14 Thread sixpack13
On 14.04.20 19:32, sean darcy wrote: ... The virt io tab shows storage format as "dir". I can't figure out the location of the actual xml file that VMM creates. Sigh. I'm not sure, but I guess somewhere in your home dir under ~/.config/ or ~/.local/ ?! -- sixpack13 __

Inkscape 1.0 rc1

2020-04-14 Thread David
For your information, Flathub, is still on the old version, 92.4, as far as I can tell. Fedora flatpak project has 1.0 beta 2 version. Rawhide has the new 1.0 rc1 and I just now installed it natively. The dependencies appear to all be the same as in the Version 32 directory, except for "grap

selinux issues -- for test system/httpd user access

2020-04-14 Thread bruce
Hey list! 1st, thanks to all the help I've gotten over time from the list. Stay safe everyone!! I'm finally jumping into deploying selinux on a test system. My use case: To create a test local VM To fire up httpd/mysql on the VM To create a couple of test users on the VM Create a test static

Re: selinux issues -- for test system/httpd user access

2020-04-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/14/20 11:01 AM, bruce wrote: My use case:  To create a test local VM  To fire up httpd/mysql on the VM  To create a couple of test users on the VM  Create a test static website under /var/www/html/cat    using index.html          aa.php I've already got the VM, test users, httpd, etc.

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-14 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-14 02:01, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: Good afternoon from Singapore, What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server? Because I think both RHEL and Fedora Server are from Red Hat Inc. When do I use RHEL? When do I use Fedora Server? I am looking forward to hear

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-14 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/14/2020 01:15 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: RHEL is a defunct, locked down version of Fedora, bugs and all.  The idea is that you can rely on things, including the locked in bugs, not changing and breaking your stuff, if you can get it to work properly to start with. That's a rather b

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-14 Thread DJ Delorie
ToddAndMargo via users writes: > The idea is that you can rely on things, including the locked in bugs, As someone who has a full time job fixing bugs in RHEL, I can emphatically state that this is not the case at all. If you want a bug fixed in RHEL, contact your RHEL account manager or file a

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-14 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-14 12:35, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/14/2020 01:15 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: RHEL is a defunct, locked down version of Fedora, bugs and all.  The idea is that you can rely on things, including the locked in bugs, not changing and breaking your stuff, if you can get it to work prope

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-14 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-14 12:50, DJ Delorie wrote: ToddAndMargo via users writes: The idea is that you can rely on things, including the locked in bugs, As someone who has a full time job fixing bugs in RHEL, I can emphatically state that this is not the case at all. If you want a bug fixed in RHEL, con

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-14 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 01:35:16PM -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: > That's a rather biased way to describe RHEL. I think it's more > objective to describe Fedora as a bleeding edge test bed where new > programs and procedures can have the bugs swatted, and RHEL a more > mainstream distro that takes advant

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-14 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-14 13:31, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 01:35:16PM -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: That's a rather biased way to describe RHEL. I think it's more objective to describe Fedora as a bleeding edge test bed where new programs and procedures can have the bugs swatted, and RHEL a mo

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-14 Thread DJ Delorie
ToddAndMargo via users writes: > So RHEL's "prioritization" is different from mine Yes, which is why RHEL is not the best choice for you. I'm OK with that, but there's no reason to take it so personally. "Doesn't do what I want" is not the same as "RHEL is trash." > It does not matter that bug

Re: selinux issues -- for test system/httpd user access

2020-04-14 Thread bruce
Hi Samuel, Thanks for the reply. What you provided doesn't seem to mesh with other sites I've seen. Take a look at these sites and if you feel up to it, get back to me with comments!!! https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/an-introduction-to-selinux-on-centos-7-part-1-basic-concepts

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-14 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-14 13:43, DJ Delorie wrote: ToddAndMargo via users writes: So RHEL's "prioritization" is different from mine Yes, which is why RHEL is not the best choice for you. I'm OK with that, but there's no reason to take it so personally. "Doesn't do what I want" is not the same as "RHEL

Tip: experimenting with servers

2020-04-14 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, If you are getting into servers, here is a tip. Install qemu-kvm and those OS'es as virtual machines you are targeting as clients. You can set up your own mini network to learn and configure things. I get away with three virtual machines running at the same time on my system before it

Re: selinux issues -- for test system/httpd user access

2020-04-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/14/20 2:01 PM, bruce wrote: Hi Samuel, Thanks for the reply. What you provided doesn't seem to mesh  with other sites I've seen. Take a look at these sites and if you feel up to it, get back to me with comments!!! https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/an-introduction-to-selin

Re: selinux issues -- for test system/httpd user access

2020-04-14 Thread bruce
Ok. thanks. Bu tI still would like to have the cmds to learn from, as opposed to just "depending" on the OS, and not really knowing how this stuff kind of works. So, any pointers/help would be cool! thanks On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 5:35 PM Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 4/14/20 2:01 PM, bruce wrote:

Re: selinux issues -- for test system/httpd user access

2020-04-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/14/20 2:39 PM, bruce wrote: Bu tI still would like to have the cmds to learn from, as opposed to just "depending" on the OS, and not really knowing how this stuff kind of works. So, any pointers/help would be cool! I don't know what you're asking for. You don't need to install any pac

Re: selinux issues -- for test system/httpd user access

2020-04-14 Thread bruce
Again... I don't know what the cmds are as well as the sequence I need to run them in the correct order. This is what I'm looking to get me hands around On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 5:47 PM Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 4/14/20 2:39 PM, bruce wrote: > > Bu tI still would like to have the cmds to learn

Re: selinux issues -- for test system/httpd user access

2020-04-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/14/20 3:08 PM, bruce wrote: I don't know what the cmds are as well as the sequence I need to run them in the correct order. This is what I'm looking to get me hands around You already posted links to useful pages for that. https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/an-introduction-t

Re: dnf update question

2020-04-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-04-14 at 12:33 -0500, David wrote: > I use the following command to update > > $ sudo dnf update & flatpak update > > Is there a better way to do this. Does anyone have a script or alias > thing > that does all that with just sudo dufu or something simple ? I would

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-14 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 02:21:20PM -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > >Yes, which is why RHEL is not the best choice for you. I'm OK with > >that, but there's no reason to take it so personally. "Doesn't do what > >I want" is not the same as "RHEL is trash." > You have no idea the economic da

Re: dnf update question

2020-04-14 Thread stan via users
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 23:53:58 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I am aware, that all I have to do is hit the up arrow key, and it > > will type the > > last used commands. > The up-arrow thing is a convenience of the Bash Shell (and probably > most other Shells too). It has nothing to do with

Re: selinux issues -- for test system/httpd user access

2020-04-14 Thread bruce
All I can say at this time.. Thanks... I guess... ps. If/When I figure this all out, I'll post the cmds/order of running the selinux cmds to accomplish my goal of being able to ensure the httpd process can manage the files, as well as having users being able to read/write/delete the files... but

Re: device names

2020-04-14 Thread Roger Heflin
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 10:48 PM Tim via users wrote: > > On Tue, 2020-04-14 at 00:26 +0200, Tom H wrote: > > The improvement's when you have a multiple NICs and swap one out. You > > no longer have to edit "/etc/udev/rules.d/.rules" in order > > to have the swapped-in NIC keep the name of the swa

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

2020-04-14 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-14 16:24, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 02:21:20PM -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Yes, which is why RHEL is not the best choice for you. I'm OK with that, but there's no reason to take it so personally. "Doesn't do what I want" is not the same as "RHEL is trash

Re: selinux issues -- for test system/httpd user access

2020-04-14 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2020-04-14 at 14:01 -0400, bruce wrote: > My use case: > To create a test local VM > To fire up httpd/mysql on the VM > To create a couple of test users on the VM > Create a test static website under /var/www/html/cat >using index.html > aa.php Unless your virtual machine