Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-03-10 at 19:31 -0600, home user wrote: > (On Tue, 2020-03-10 at 6:56 PM, Patrick wrote) > > ...The recommended way to upgrade is with dnf, ... > That's how I do it, just as the on-line instructions say. I'm not doing > a new installation. Then why do you say you'll be downloading a

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-11 Thread Ger van Dijck
On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 20:58:03 +0100, home user wrote: stand-alone home workstation; f30; dual-boot (with windows-7); Gnome (mainly). I plan to upgrade to f31 in about a month. I looked thru the instructions for the upgrade. I know that beforehand, * I should do a back-up, and * that I

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-03-11 18:42, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I tend to jump in within a few days > of release, given that a lot of testing has already happened by then. +1 And, I always review... https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/dnf-system-upgrade/ -- The key to getting good answers is to

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-11 Thread Erik P. Olsen
On 2020-03-11 at 20:05:21 Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2020-03-11 18:42, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I tend to jump in within a few days > > of release, given that a lot of testing has already happened by then. > > +1 > > And, I always review... > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-doc

Re: DNF Not Resolving Kernel Package

2020-03-11 Thread Roger Heflin
That means the rpm is built wrong. Generally I don't do one-ofs like this as an RPM. The RPM does not actually solve any real issues, and it can cause issues like the one you have. You should (it may be part of the source for that module) have code to tied it to akmods such that it gets rebuilt

Re: DNF Not Resolving Kernel Package

2020-03-11 Thread Jamie Fargen
On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 12:07 AM Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 3/10/20 8:32 PM, Jamie Fargen wrote: > > When installing an RPM compiled from source, seeing and error and it > > doesn't look like the dnf is resolving the kernel package. > > > > # dnf install rtl8812au-kmod-4.3.14-2.x86_64.rpm > > kernel

Fedora Mate accessibility

2020-03-11 Thread Devin Prater via users
Hi all. I just tried installing Fedora Mate into a virtual machine, using VmWare for accessibility reasons. I am blind, so use the Orca screen reader . During installation, Orca works fine, although I had to turn up the sound volume using AlsaMixer in mate-terminal

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-11 Thread home user
(see the upgrade instructions) I did that before opening this thread: > I plan to upgrade to f31 in about a month. > I looked thru the instructions for the upgrade. (release notes) I had already seen those, too.  They do not tell me things I should do before upgrading to prevent trouble.  For ex

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-11 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 3/11/20 12:24 PM, home user wrote: (see the upgrade instructions) I did that before opening this thread: > I plan to upgrade to f31 in about a month. > I looked thru the instructions for the upgrade. (release notes) I had already seen those, too.  They do not tell me things I should do bef

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-03-12 03:24, home user wrote: > I had already seen those, too.  They do not tell me things I should do before > upgrading to prevent trouble.  For example, I don't recall the f30 release > notes telling me to back up each user's .thunderbird before doing the  > upgrade. That is because

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-11 Thread home user
(On 3/11/20 2:43 P.M., Samuel wrote) > Why is that necessary? In the same WARNING block that advises"As a precaution, download the Fedora Workstation Live image in the event something goes wrong

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-11 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 3/11/20 2:59 PM, home user wrote: > (dnf upgrade *dnf* systemd* *repos *release) The instructions advise something similar: doing full patches (dnf --refresh upgrade) just before doing the upgrade. That's what I do.  I'm curious: is what you do significantly different? I'm just trying to

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-11 Thread home user
(On 2020-03-12 3:25 PM, Ed wrote) > ...I don't even recall if a real reason was determined for your particular issue with t-bird. Not that I know of.  My best guess: The f29->f30 upgrade included the Thunderbird full version upgrade.  I think Fedora held up the Thunderbird upgrade (did not incl

Reasons for staying on a old version ( Re: Prepping for upgrade)

2020-03-11 Thread Christopher Marlow
I am just curious why people stay on old versions of Fedora like say FC30 instead of upgrading to 31? I am guessing after a new version of FC comes out, that the previous version is still supported for a limited time? Thanks, Chris Fedora 31 Workstation XFCE Desktop Enviroment. _

Re: Reasons for staying on a old version ( Re: Prepping for upgrade)

2020-03-11 Thread Christopher Marlow
On Wed, 2020-03-11 at 17:31 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote: > I am just curious why people stay on old versions of Fedora like say > FC30 instead of upgrading to 31? I am guessing after a new version of > FC comes out, that the previous version is still supported for a > limited time? > > Thanks,

Re: Reasons for staying on a old version ( Re: Prepping for upgrade)

2020-03-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2020-03-11 at 17:31 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote: > I am just curious why people stay on old versions of Fedora like say > FC30 instead of upgrading to 31? I am guessing after a new version of > FC comes out, that the previous version is still supported for a > limited time? When Fedora

Re: Reasons for staying on a old version ( Re: Prepping for upgrade)

2020-03-11 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2020-03-11 at 17:31 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote: > I am just curious why people stay on old versions of Fedora like say > FC30 instead of upgrading to 31? I am guessing after a new version of > FC comes out, that the previous version is still supported for a > limited time? Yes, there'

Re: prep. for upgrade.

2020-03-11 Thread Tim via users
Just a comment: If you don't put a blank line between your quotes and your replies, they're joined together, looking like one big quote. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1062.12.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Feb 4 23:02:59 UTC 2020 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automaticall