Re: After an update, VM's no longer have Internet access

2019-01-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2019-01-29 at 06:11 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 1/28/19 11:55 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Mon, 2019-01-28 at 21:54 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > > > I'll do more in my AM. > > Thanks again. > > > > Well, yesterday I was able to replicate the symptoms of the problem you're >

Re: After an update, VM's no longer have Internet access

2019-01-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 1/29/19 6:39 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Interesting, though I wouldn't expect a difference between Gnome and > KDE guests. Note that my guest is Fedora Server, with no DE installed. The "difference" is if you install Fedora KDE spin from the Live Media it Doesn't Install any libvirt stuf

Re: After an update, VM's no longer have Internet access

2019-01-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2019-01-29 at 10:39 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > So, maybe, try disabling libvirt.service on any guests which may have it > enabled and > > reboot *everything* to see if your problem persists. > > Interesting, though I wouldn't expect a difference between Gnome and > KDE guests. N

Re: After an update, VM's no longer have Internet access

2019-01-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 1/29/19 7:02 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > OK, first of all the Fedora guest doesn't have libvirt.service enabled, > maybe because it was installed with no DE. > > Secondly, I did the following: > > 1) Verified that the Windows guest was still working. > 2) Started the Fedora guest. > 3) Both

systemd-journald[585]: Failed to create new system journal: Input/output error

2019-01-29 Thread Neal Becker
After attempting today's updates, the system is almost unusable. The problems seem to be caused by journal. I see messages like the above. I tried rm /var/log/journal//* hoping it would clear up. But after several reboots I still see such messages. kde won't start at all. I'm using mate

Re: systemd-journald[585]: Failed to create new system journal: Input/output error

2019-01-29 Thread Neal Becker
Some more info: df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on devtmpfs 3905924 0 3905924 0% /dev tmpfs3920940 0 3920940 0% /dev/shm tmpfs3920940 9740 3911200 1% /run tmpfs3920940 0 3920940 0%

Re: After an update, VM's no longer have Internet access

2019-01-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2019-01-29 at 20:18 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > I didn't have a Win10 guest. So, I installed. And tested with a Fedora > Guest. Both are > still working just fine after > > [egreshko@f29g ~]$ uptime > 20:16:43 up 33 min, 2 users, load average: 0.07, 0.02, 0.00 > > How about putting

Re: After an update, VM's no longer have Internet access

2019-01-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2019-01-29 at 14:59 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2019-01-29 at 20:18 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > I didn't have a Win10 guest. So, I installed. And tested with a Fedora > > Guest. Both are > > still working just fine after > > > > [egreshko@f29g ~]$ uptime > > 20:16:43

Re: Shredding a removable drive (OT)

2019-01-29 Thread Ian Malone
On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 at 03:32, Robert Nichols wrote: > > On 1/28/19 8:03 AM, Ian Malone wrote: > >I wouldn't recommend just doing /dev/zero if the CIA, > > or even a moderately funded newspaper might specifically be after your > > data, > > I would be interested to know if you can name any data rec

Re: systemd-journald[585]: Failed to create new system journal: Input/output error

2019-01-29 Thread Neal Becker
Finally got to the root problem. It seems I'm running on btrfs (single device), and the metadata became too full. This causes WIERD behavior - df would switch between sometimes showing 50% free space and 0% free. Operations would mysteriously fail with NOSPC even though there was loads of fr

Re: systemd-journald[585]: Failed to create new system journal: Input/output error

2019-01-29 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/29/2019 11:36 AM, Neal Becker wrote: I got working again by deleting a bunch of files. I think there is some other way I can get more metadata space for btrfs, but not sure about that. Report it as a bug. If it's actually expected behavior, somebody will probably tell you how to deal w

Re: Shredding a removable drive (OT)

2019-01-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/27/19 6:47 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: Yes, something like that is what I suspect: The actual data on disk would be left untouched when the *disk/partition* is encrypted. I had a look through documents explaining luks, and again and again the topic is "disk" encryption, not "data" encrypti

Re: Shredding a removable drive (OT)

2019-01-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/28/19 2:12 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Another point: several people have mentioned using /dev/urandom. It's important to note that this is a *pseudo-random* generator. It starts from a random seed, but from that generates a completely deterministic pattern. If you have the seed, you have

Re: After an update, VM's no longer have Internet access

2019-01-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 1/30/19 1:37 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > And we're back ... > > I worked away using the Windows guest for several hours. Network access > kept going, though the system felt slightly sluggish at times. When I > looked at the Fedora guest (which I hadn't touched in all this time) it > was off