BackupPC

2017-12-23 Thread Ger van Dijck
Hi folks, I have a (maybe stupid) question : I have installed BackupPC , but I can not launche the application. I also can not find the app listed in Applications. So where can I find the app and start the program BackupPC ? Regards, Ger van Dijck. -- Using Opera's mail client: http:

Re: BackupPC

2017-12-23 Thread Richard Shaw
On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 7:21 AM, Ger van Dijck wrote: > Hi folks, > > > I have a (maybe stupid) question : I have installed BackupPC , but I can > not launche the application. > > I also can not find the app listed in Applications. > > So where can I find the app and start the program BackupPC ?

Re: NetworkManager-wait-online is still utterly, and completely, broken

2017-12-23 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Gordon Messmer writes: I understand what you're saying.  It's just that static configuration isn't what NM does.  The old network service does, and I sincerely hope no one ever suggests deprecating the network service unless NM offers that mode of operation, which it does not, today. I'm

Re: NetworkManager-wait-online is still utterly, and completely, broken

2017-12-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 23 Dec 2017 10:50:44 -0500 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Maybe, perhaps, this approach should've made sense to do so only when NM > actually was able to support all the functionality it was taking over? How's > that for a crazy idea? Does anyone think I'm being completely off-base and > u

Re: BackupPC

2017-12-23 Thread fred roller
Also, there are no stupid questions. On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 8:26 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 7:21 AM, Ger van Dijck > wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> >> I have a (maybe stupid) question : I have installed BackupPC , but I can >> not launche the application. >> >> I also can n

Re: BackupPC

2017-12-23 Thread fred roller
Also, there are no stupid questions. On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 8:26 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 7:21 AM, Ger van Dijck > wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> >> I have a (maybe stupid) question : I have installed BackupPC , but I can >> not launche the application. >> >> I also can n

Re: NetworkManager-wait-online is still utterly, and completely, broken

2017-12-23 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Tom Horsley writes: On Sat, 23 Dec 2017 10:50:44 -0500 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Maybe, perhaps, this approach should've made sense to do so only when NM > actually was able to support all the functionality it was taking over? How's > that for a crazy idea? Does anyone think I'm being complet

Re: BackupPC

2017-12-23 Thread Ted Roche
If you type: dnf info backuppc It will tell you you can find the homepage at: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ and from there find documentation on how to configure and run BackupPC. On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 8:21 AM, Ger van Dijck wrote: > Hi folks, > > > I have a (maybe stupid) question : I

Re: NetworkManager-wait-online is still utterly, and completely, broken

2017-12-23 Thread Marmorstein, Robert
> I would have thought something with "wait online" in its name would > actually wait for it to be on-line. To me, "on-line" means connected > and operational. Starting up but not actually on-line, isn't on-line. I find it interesting that freedesktop.org suggests that the entire purpose of Netwo

Re: NetworkManager-wait-online is still utterly, and completely, broken

2017-12-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/23/2017 11:54 AM, Marmorstein, Robert wrote: I agree that the nm-online manpage is confusing. My experiments seem to indicate that perhaps "active" means the network interface is "up" in the sense that the interface is listening for data-link layer (i.e. Ethernet) frames. It doesn't see

Re: NetworkManager-wait-online is still utterly, and completely, broken

2017-12-23 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Marmorstein, Robert writes: NetworkManager-wait-online is to make sure that remote drives mount AFTER an IP address has been configured: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/NetworkTarget/ That's exactly the use case that's broken here. By the way, my own experiments (on a lab of

Re: F26 hangs or dies

2017-12-23 Thread Stephen Davies
I've been reviewing the system log after rebooting and find that the journald entries below are present in all cases. I do not know whether they are a cause or an effect. What do they mean? Dec 24 14:15:46 mustang systemd-coredump[5168]: Process 5132 (systemd-journal) of user 0 dumped core. De

Re: F26 hangs or dies

2017-12-23 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Stephen Davies writes: I've been reviewing the system log after rebooting and find that the journald entries below are present in all cases. I do not know whether they are a cause or an effect. What do they mean? Dec 24 14:15:46 mustang systemd-coredump[5168]: Process 5132 (systemd- journal