dnf distro-sync - an elementary question

2016-04-16 Thread Timothy Murphy
Is it always safe to run this? I see that on my Fedora-23 system it would remove 79 packages and downgrade 7. What kind of packages are removed? I upgraded Fedora-23 from Fedora-22, which was installed directly, and I haven't installed any "unofficial" packages as far as I recall. So where do thes

Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-16 Thread Kevin Wilson
Hello, After copying an ISO of fedora 23 x86_64 into a USB key with the dd command, everything is fine - I can boot with that USB key. However, there is one machine where I have to use nosmp so that it will boot. There is some hw problem with this issue but this machine is only for simple tests so

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-16 Thread g
On 04/16/16 05:27, Kevin Wilson wrote: > Hello, > After copying an ISO of fedora 23 x86_64 into a USB key with the dd > command, everything is fine - I can boot with that USB > key. > However, there is one machine where I have to use nosmp so that it > will boot. There is some hw problem with thi

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-16 Thread Kevin Wilson
Hi, Thanks, but this does not seem to solve the problem. Once I put the live on part 1, as suggested, it will be written as read only. And the grub.conf is there, so it seems that again I will not be able to write to it as part 1 is read only. Or am I wrong ? Regards, Kevin On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 a

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-16 Thread g
On 04/16/16 07:40, Kevin Wilson wrote: > Hi, > Thanks, but this does not seem to solve the problem. > Once I put the live on part 1, as suggested, it will be written as > read only. And the grub.conf > is there, so it seems that again I will not be able to write to it as > part 1 is read only. >

Re: gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-16 Thread Misha S.
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 6:56 AM, Tim wrote: > The chief step being to post to this list using an address that's inbox > auto-deletes everything without a special password, and to receive > messages using a second address that isn't publicly exposed on this > list. Long, long, ago, I found that po

Re: gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-16 Thread Tim
Tim: >> The chief step being to post to this list using an address that's inbox >> auto-deletes everything without a special password, and to receive >> messages using a second address that isn't publicly exposed on this >> list. Long, long, ago, I found that posting to mailing lists was the >> ma

Re: gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-16 Thread Greg Woods
On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 10:56 PM, Tim wrote: > Chris Murphy : > > FYI, gmail puts your emails in spam for the following reason: > > Why is this message in Spam? It has a from address in yahoo.com.au but > > has failed yahoo.com.au's required tests for authentication. > This is, unfortunately, a

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-16 Thread Timothy Murphy
Kevin Wilson wrote: > Once I put the live on part 1, as suggested, it will be written as > read only. And the grub.conf > is there, so it seems that again I will not be able to write to it as > part 1 is read only. Slightly OT, and no help to the OP, but it seems extraordinary to me that there is

Re: gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-16 Thread g
On 04/16/16 09:47, Misha S. wrote: > On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 6:56 AM, Tim wrote: >> The chief step being to post to this list using an address that's inbox >> auto-deletes everything without a special password, and to receive >> messages using a second address that isn't publicly exposed on this

Re: gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-16 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 01:18:29 +0930 Tim wrote: > Misha S.: > > But you have to put a notice that makes you look like a douche in > > all your outgoing mail. > > And up yours, too... If you go around throwing insults, expect to get > slapped in the face for it. Both of you please stop the pers

Re: gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-16 Thread Chris Murphy
This seems to explain the issue. Yahoo basically wants everyone to reject yahoo emails sent from other mail servers, which is what mailing lists do. But Google is one of the few, I guess, that honor this request, and that's why it goes to spam no matter what anti-training is applied. Old article t

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-16 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 04/16/2016 03:27 AM, Kevin Wilson wrote: Hello, After copying an ISO of fedora 23 x86_64 into a USB key with the dd command, everything is fine - I can boot with that USB key. However, there is one machine where I have to use nosmp so that it will boot. There is some hw problem with this issue

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-16 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 04/16/2016 10:02 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Kevin Wilson wrote: Once I put the live on part 1, as suggested, it will be written as read only. And the grub.conf is there, so it seems that again I will not be able to write to it as part 1 is read only. Slightly OT, and no help to the OP, but

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/16/2016 11:00 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: What would that mean? Normally, you are overwriting the hard drive, so where would you put the installer files? I think he means extracting the .iso to one partition and using it to install Fedora on the rest of the drive (or even on a different dr

Re: gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-16 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 6:46 PM, Greg Woods wrote: > On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 10:56 PM, Tim wrote: >> Chris Murphy : >>> >>> FYI, gmail puts your emails in spam for the following reason: Why is >>> this message in Spam? It has a from address in yahoo.com.au but has >>> failed yahoo.com.au's requir

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-16 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 4:27 AM, Kevin Wilson wrote: > Hello, > After copying an ISO of fedora 23 x86_64 into a USB key with the dd > command, everything is fine - I can boot with that USB > key. > However, there is one machine where I have to use nosmp so that it > will boot. There is some hw pro

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-16 Thread g
On 04/16/16 13:15, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 04/16/2016 11:00 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: >>> >> What would that mean? Normally, you are overwriting the hard drive, so >> where would you put the installer files? > > I think he means extracting the .iso to one partition and using it to > install Fedora on

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-16 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Kevin Wilson wrote: > >> Once I put the live on part 1, as suggested, it will be written as >> read only. And the grub.conf >> is there, so it seems that again I will not be able to write to it as >> part 1 is read only. > > Slightly OT, an

Re: gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-16 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Tom H wrote: > On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 6:46 PM, Greg Woods wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 10:56 PM, Tim wrote: >>> Chris Murphy : FYI, gmail puts your emails in spam for the following reason: Why is this message in Spam? It has a from address i

Re: gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-16 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > Short version as I understand it: yahoo's addition of dmarc=fail dmarc=reject rather -- Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/l

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-16 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 04/16/2016 11:52 AM, g wrote: i believe you 2 are speculating too much as to op's intent. op states that he can boot on other boxen, but not the one. nothing about install from live. This had nothing to do with the OP. I was replying to someone else that commented about installing from the

Re: gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/16/2016 12:17 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: Short version as I understand it: yahoo's addition of dmarc=fail is a request to consider any email not sent by a yahoo mail server as spam, and Google is one of the few to honor that request. And no wonder. To quote from Wikipedia: Reject policy is

Re: gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-16 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 7:50 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > This seems to explain the issue. Yahoo basically wants everyone to > reject yahoo emails sent from other mail servers, which is what > mailing lists do. But Google is one of the few, I guess, that honor > this request, and that's why it goes

Re: Fedora 23 Server: can't startx

2016-04-16 Thread Braden McDaniel
On Wed, 2016-03-30 at 17:52 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 03/30/2016 05:24 PM, James Hogarth wrote: > > > > > > On 31 Mar 2016 00:52, "Braden McDaniel" > > wrote: > >  > > >  > On Wed, 2016-03-30 at 13:21 -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > >  > > > >  > > On 03/30/2016

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-16 Thread Kevin Wilson
Hi, > 'loop' mount iso, change grub.config, save as new iso, install to usb. Thanks for the advice, but this seems not to work: $mount -o loop /work/down/setup/Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-21-5.iso /mnt/loop mount: /dev/loop0 is write-protected, mounting read-only then unmounting and mounting

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-16 Thread Mike Wright
On 04/16/2016 09:32 PM, Kevin Wilson wrote: Hi, 'loop' mount iso, change grub.config, save as new iso, install to usb. Thanks for the advice, but this seems not to work: $mount -o loop /work/down/setup/Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-21-5.iso /mnt/loop mount: /dev/loop0 is write-protected, mou

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-16 Thread Kevin Wilson
Thanks, Mike, but this fails: mount -o loop,rw /work/down/setup/Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-21-5.iso /mnt/loop mount: /dev/loop0 is write-protected, mounting read-only s:/$mount -o remount,rw /mnt/loop mount: cannot remount /dev/loop0 read-write, is write-protected Kevin On Sun, Apr 17, 2016

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-16 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 04/16/2016 09:45 PM, Kevin Wilson wrote: Thanks, Mike, but this fails: mount -o loop,rw /work/down/setup/Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-21-5.iso /mnt/loop mount: /dev/loop0 is write-protected, mounting read-only s:/$mount -o remount,rw /mnt/loop mount: cannot remount /dev/loop0 read-write, is

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-16 Thread Mike Wright
On 04/16/2016 09:45 PM, Kevin Wilson wrote: Thanks, Mike, but this fails: mount -o loop,rw /work/down/setup/Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-21-5.iso /mnt/loop mount: /dev/loop0 is write-protected, mounting read-only s:/$mount -o remount,rw /mnt/loop mount: cannot remount /dev/loop0 read-write, is

Re: gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-16 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2016-04-16 at 11:50 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > This seems to explain the issue. Yahoo basically wants everyone to > reject yahoo emails sent from other mail servers, which is what > mailing lists do. But Google is one of the few, I guess, that honor > this request, and that's why it goes

Re: gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-16 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2016-04-16 at 12:27 -0500, g wrote: > thanks to yuchahoo bouncing my good email, even after filling out and > submitting forms that lists.fedoraproject.org and 5 other subscribed > to list are desired, and, also aggravating is that yuckahoo also marks > good emails as junk and sends them to

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-16 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2016-04-16 at 11:15 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > I think he means extracting the .iso to one partition and using it to > install Fedora on the rest of the drive (or even on a different drive) > while not reformatting that partition. I'm not sure why he wants to > do this, but it does look lik

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-16 Thread Tim
Timothy Murphy: >> Slightly OT, and no help to the OP, but it seems extraordinary to me >> that there is no official way of installing Fedora from the hard disk. Chris Murphy: > Start working on an implementation and propose it as a feature for a > future version of Fedora? Why should someone hav