Re: unmaintained bugs

2015-07-25 Thread antonio montagnani
Chris Murphy ha scritto il 24/07/2015 alle 16:47: On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 08:36:05AM +0200, antonio montagnani wrote: * If a package maintainer appears to be totally unresponsive to bug reports, follow the process here: https://fedorapro

Convert system to multiboot to test rawhide

2015-07-25 Thread R Mercado
Hi, I was reading https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Rawhide where it mentions that one suggested way to use rawhide is to use it "On a multiboot system, alongside a stable release of Fedora or another operating system". Is there a guide to convert a stable Fedora system into a multiboot o

Re: Disk partition

2015-07-25 Thread g
On 07/19/15 16:55, Robert Nichols wrote: > On 07/19/2015 02:44 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: >> On 07/19/2015 11:36 AM, g wrote: Logical partitions within the extended partition will always be > numbered consecutively starting with 5. If you delete or merge > some logical partitions, all

Re: Convert system to multiboot to test rawhide

2015-07-25 Thread g
On 07/25/15 05:05, R Mercado wrote: > Hi, > > I was reading https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Rawhide where it > mentions that one suggested way to use rawhide is to use it > > "On a multiboot system, alongside a stable release of Fedora or another > operating system". > > Is there a guide

fedup 20 -> 21 -> No X

2015-07-25 Thread Rich Emberson
Ah, fedora upgrades using fedup ... Starting with Fedora 20, did > yum update and then > fedup --network 21 --product=nonproduct Took a while but there were no issues but remember, as root > export PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin or use > su - to become root otherwise fedup has an iss

Re: unmaintained bugs

2015-07-25 Thread Roger Heflin
You are assuming that the maintainers are employed/paid to maintain that project. In quite a number of cases they are not paid for it, so given that you may or may not get it fixed. And if I was a volunteer for a project and my "supervisor" started harassing me, then you would need a new maintai

New linux kernel getrandom call seems to be missing in Fedora. Anyone know why?

2015-07-25 Thread stan
There's a new getrandom call in the kernel since 3.19. When I look in the /usr/include/linux/random.h, it is there, but commented out. Since this call uses /dev/urandom or /dev/random, it is far better than the rand () and random () calls, which are linear congruential and repeat after only 2**31

Re: fedup 20 -> 21 -> No X

2015-07-25 Thread stan
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 06:37:10 -0700 Rich Emberson wrote: > Ah, fedora upgrades using fedup ... > > Starting with Fedora 20, did > > yum update > and then > > fedup --network 21 --product=nonproduct > Took a while but there were no issues but > remember, as root > > export PATH=$PATH:$HOME/b

Re: unmaintained bugs

2015-07-25 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 11:02:11 +0200 antonio montagnani wrote: > I find really silly that when you are encharged of a bug, there is no > kind of supervisor checking if you are are working on it and any > problem arisingImagine it at Nasa, ehi guy, I have no time to > check your bug and don't b

Re: fedora 22 live

2015-07-25 Thread Beartooth
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 12:56:03 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 07/24/2015 12:36 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: >> Hello, >> >> In Fedora 22 live, which version is "almost" a gnome 3 version? >> Mate, LXDE, or ? > > IMHO, XFCE (at least that's what I use). It's certainly what a lot of us who gave

printing impossible

2015-07-25 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonjour, What wrong with cups/ghostscript? I am unable to print on my system (fedora 21) message: ghostscript quit unexpectedly ghostscript-core 9.15.6.fc21.x86_64 Thank you. - -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Laboratoire CNR

Re: unmaintained bugs

2015-07-25 Thread antonio montagnani
Roger Heflin ha scritto il 25/07/2015 alle 17:54: You are assuming that the maintainers are employed/paid to maintain that project. In quite a number of cases they are not paid for it, so given that you may or may not get it fixed. And if I was a volunteer for a project and my "supervisor" sta

Re: New linux kernel getrandom call seems to be missing in Fedora. Anyone know why?

2015-07-25 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 10:18 AM, stan wrote: > There's a new getrandom call in the kernel since 3.19. When I look in > the /usr/include/linux/random.h, it is there, but commented out. > Since this call uses /dev/urandom or /dev/random, it is far better than > the rand () and random () calls, whi

Re: fedora 22 live

2015-07-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/25/2015 10:09 AM, Beartooth wrote: It's certainly what a lot of us who gave up on Gnome3 are running. Fwiw, one of us on another list posted that he had been running xfce4 till his machine began to resemble cold molasses, then tried lxde and was very pleased. It'll be interesting to

Re: unmaintained bugs

2015-07-25 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 11:02:11AM +0200, antonio montagnani wrote: > I find really silly that when you are encharged of a bug, there is > no kind of supervisor checking if you are are working on it and any > problem arisingImagine it at Nasa, ehi guy, I have no time to > check your bug and don

OT - NFS group ignored

2015-07-25 Thread Emmett Culley
I just noticed that when accessing an NFS mount, the group is ignored. For example, on the server that shares the files via NFS that lists from the NFS client as: $ ls -l/nfs/web -rw-rw-r-- 1 root web_prog 491 Oct 16 2012 parse.php $ mount web:/ on /lvh1/web type nfs4 (rw,noatime,vers=4.0

USB serial /dev/ttyUSB0 not set to group 'dialout' in F22

2015-07-25 Thread Eric Smith
Since I've upgraded to F22 x86_64, I haven't been able to access serial ports from a user account in the dialout group. Doing an ls /dev/ttyUSB0 shows that the device special file is there, but the group is not set to dialout: $ ls -l /dev/ttyUSB0 crw-rw-r--. 1 root root 188, 0 Jul 25 03:29 /dev/t

Re: OT - NFS group ignored

2015-07-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/26/15 03:41, Emmett Culley wrote: > I just noticed that when accessing an NFS mount, the group is ignored. > > For example, on the server that shares the files via NFS that lists from the > NFS client as: > > $ ls -l/nfs/web > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root web_prog 491 Oct 16 2012 parse.php > > $ m

Re: OT - NFS group ignored

2015-07-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/26/15 05:01, Ed Greshko wrote: > What is the output of "ls -l /nfs/we" after you have performed the mount? Too early for me to be answering questions... :-) You probably want ls -ld /lvh1/web to make it easier to see. -- If I wanted a blog or social media I'd go elsewhere -- users mai

Re: OT - NFS group ignored

2015-07-25 Thread Emmett Culley
On 07/25/2015 02:01 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 07/26/15 03:41, Emmett Culley wrote: >> I just noticed that when accessing an NFS mount, the group is ignored. >> >> For example, on the server that shares the files via NFS that lists from the >> NFS client as: >> >> $ ls -l/nfs/web >> -rw-rw-r-- 1 r

Re: OT - NFS group ignored

2015-07-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/26/15 07:38, Emmett Culley wrote: > On 07/25/2015 02:01 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 07/26/15 03:41, Emmett Culley wrote: >>> I just noticed that when accessing an NFS mount, the group is ignored. >>> >>> For example, on the server that shares the files via NFS that lists from >>> the NFS cli

Re: OT - NFS group ignored

2015-07-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/26/15 07:46, Ed Greshko wrote: > Does it help if you remove the sticky bit on the mounted directory? Sorry, I meant the setgid bit. But, FWIW, I'm trying to replicate a failure here and can't. ds:/volume1/syntegra on /syntegra type nfs4 (rw,relatime,vers=4.0,rsize=131072,wsize=131072,nam

Re: unmaintained bugs

2015-07-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 1:15 PM, antonio montagnani wrote: > > no, I am not assuming that maintainers are paid, but when you are a > volunteer you must be honest to you and other people to say when you cannot > continue to be a volunteer This is much more tricky than you apparently assume it

fedup 20 -> 21 -> 22 -> Plasma closed unexpectedly

2015-07-25 Thread Rich Emberson
Again, fedora upgrades using fedup ... Starting with Fedora 20, did ... stuff ... > fedup --network 21 --product=nonproduct ... stuff ... > fedup --network 22 --product=nonproduct So, now rebooted and it started. I have all my machines in multi-user mode just in case there is an issue wit

Re: fedup 20 -> 21 -> 22 -> Plasma closed unexpectedly

2015-07-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/26/15 09:51, Rich Emberson wrote: > X starts but there is no mouse control (pointer on screen > but the mouse does not move it) and after a minute or > less I get an widget stating that the Plasma desktop > closed unexpectedly. > > I have to login from another machine to do a reboot. You're

Re: OT - NFS group ignored

2015-07-25 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 26Jul2015 08:06, Ed Greshko wrote: But, FWIW, I'm trying to replicate a failure here and can't. My standard question in this situation is: how many groups is the user in on the client machine? Cheers, Cameron Simpson Music journalism: People who can't write interviewing people who can'

Re: OT - NFS group ignored

2015-07-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/26/15 10:34, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 26Jul2015 08:06, Ed Greshko wrote: >> But, FWIW, I'm trying to replicate a failure here and can't. > > My standard question in this situation is: how many groups is the user in on > the client machine? > Well, in my non-failing case, just 2. Not hea

Sending a desktop to a big screen

2015-07-25 Thread Amit Prahesh
Hi there, imagine a medium sized office room, where four engineers hack away (all of them currently have Fedora 22 workstations, to stay on topic.) On that room there's a fifth PC, hooked to a big TV on the wall (also running F22) that has Firefox running full screen with some visualization of sor

Re: OT - NFS group ignored

2015-07-25 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 26Jul2015 10:39, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/26/15 10:34, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 26Jul2015 08:06, Ed Greshko wrote: But, FWIW, I'm trying to replicate a failure here and can't. My standard question in this situation is: how many groups is the user in on the client machine? Well, in my

Re: fedup 20 -> 21 -> 22 -> Plasma closed unexpectedly

2015-07-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/25/2015 07:01 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: After reboot, login from a different machine and create a fresh user. Then login as that new user to see if you have the same issue. Either that or simply change to a text console without logging in at the GUI. And, while you're at it, activate the