Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-22 Thread Jan Zelený
On 21. 7. 2015 at 20:33:27, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 02:10:10AM +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote: > > I'm sorry but "clean all" is not necessary at all! "clean metadata" or > > "clean expire-cache" should be sufficient. > > You don't even need to do that. Just use the --refresh flag

Re: Thank God for yum-deprecated :-)

2015-07-22 Thread Radek Holy
- Original Message - > From: "Bruno Wolff III" > To: "Radek Holy" > Cc: "Community support for Fedora users" > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 11:20:02 PM > Subject: Re: Thank God for yum-deprecated :-) > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 11:32:58 -0400, > Radek Holy wrote: > > > >Right, it sti

Re: external screen no longer support native resolution

2015-07-22 Thread Frederic Muller
On 07/21/2015 06:08 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 02:32:08PM +0700, Frederic Muller wrote: >> Hi! >> >> I just upgraded to F22 and my external monitor (a Koios 24" 1920x1200) >> no longer works in its native resolution. I can only get 1280 x 768 to >> display. >> >> Everything was

Re: which plugin to listen at some radio with firefox?

2015-07-22 Thread John Pilkington
On 19/07/15 19:52, John Pilkington wrote: On 19/07/15 15:13, Carlos A. Carnero Delgado wrote: Bonjour, from a quick network check, you can see they're using MP3 for the audio stream. So you may want to install that codec. Personally, I just installed Fedy a while ago and then the multimedia cod

Creating kvm instance remotely

2015-07-22 Thread Alex
Hi, I have a fedora22 server with libvirt/kvm/qemu installed and would like to use it to create a number of kvm virtual instances remotely, non-interactively, according to my parameters (memory, disk layout, package options, etc). I'm aware of kickstart, but have never used it. Is that the best op

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-22 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 22.07.2015, Suvayu Ali wrote: > I'm sorry but "clean all" is not necessary at all! "clean metadata" or > "clean expire-cache" should be sufficient. Ok. > That said, I sometimes do not understand what's the harm in getting > updates few hours later. dnf already tells you how old the metad

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2015-07-22 at 17:41 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 22.07.2015, Suvayu Ali wrote: > > > I'm sorry but "clean all" is not necessary at all! "clean > > metadata" or > > "clean expire-cache" should be sufficient. > > Ok. > > > That said, I sometimes do not understand what's the harm in

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-22 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 05:41:48PM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 22.07.2015, Suvayu Ali wrote: > > > That said, I sometimes do not understand what's the harm in getting > > updates few hours later. dnf already tells you how old the metadata is > > when it starts, you can choose to get the lates

Re: Creating kvm instance remotely

2015-07-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:39:15AM -0400, Alex wrote: > I have a fedora22 server with libvirt/kvm/qemu installed and would > like to use it to create a number of kvm virtual instances remotely, > non-interactively, according to my parameters (memory, disk layout, > package options, etc). > I'm awar

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/22/2015 05:41 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 22.07.2015, Suvayu Ali wrote: I usually update weekly (or at least once within two weeks). And since F22, I get "nothing to do" every time I do this What you describe indicates you could be victim of what I conside a massive design flaw in dnf, th

Re: Creating kvm instance remotely

2015-07-22 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 07/22/2015 07:39 AM, Alex wrote: I'm aware of kickstart, but have never used it. Is that the best option, or is something like chef or puppet easier? ... I've experimented with virt-install, but that apparently doesn't provide the ability to select all of the install config options It might

Re: Automatic Bug Reporting Tool

2015-07-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/21/2015 10:56 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: As a plea to users of Fedora: If you get notifications from ABRT, the Automatic Bug Reporting Tool, please spend a bit of time on submitting the _complete_ report instead of only enabling shortened reports. Sometimes the shortened reports may be in

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-22 Thread Maurizio Marini
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 20:33:27 -0400 Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 02:10:10AM +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote: > > I'm sorry but "clean all" is not necessary at all! "clean metadata" or > > "clean expire-cache" should be sufficient. > > You don't even need to do that. Just use the --r

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/22/2015 09:58 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: What you describe indicates you could be victim of what I conside a massive design flaw in dnf, the dnf guys have been ignoring ever since, because they believe to know better: When dnf encounters a broken dependency, it doesn't tell you about it and

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-22 Thread Rick Stevens
On 07/22/2015 10:38 AM, Maurizio Marini wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 20:33:27 -0400 Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 02:10:10AM +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote: I'm sorry but "clean all" is not necessary at all! "clean metadata" or "clean expire-cache" should be sufficient. You don't ev

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-22 Thread Rick Stevens
On 07/22/2015 10:52 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 07/22/2015 10:38 AM, Maurizio Marini wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 20:33:27 -0400 Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 02:10:10AM +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote: I'm sorry but "clean all" is not necessary at all! "clean metadata" or "clean expir

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/22/2015 10:57 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: dnf really needs some serious surgery. I do hope that they don't drop yum (or yum-deprecated as they now call it) until dnf is at least as feature-complete as yum. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscri

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-22 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 22.07.2015, Rick Stevens wrote: > Open mouth, insert foot. While what I did did result in the chrome > update, a "dnf clean metadata;dnf update" did come up with 21 more > items to update--even though it said the metadata was 45 seconds old. Welcome to the club.. -- users mailing list users

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:57:39AM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > Open mouth, insert foot. While what I did did result in the chrome > update, a "dnf clean metadata;dnf update" did come up with 21 more > items to update--even though it said the metadata was 45 seconds old. Are you sure you're not ju

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-22 Thread Ron Yorston
Suvayu Ali wrote: >That said, I sometimes do not understand what's the harm in getting >updates few hours later. dnf already tells you how old the metadata is >when it starts, you can choose to get the latest metadata if it is too >old. So what's the big deal? I certainly get the impression that

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 07:20:11PM +0100, Ron Yorston wrote: > >That said, I sometimes do not understand what's the harm in getting > >updates few hours later. dnf already tells you how old the metadata is > >when it starts, you can choose to get the latest metadata if it is too > >old. So what's

dnf-langpack

2015-07-22 Thread tangent08
I wish use dnf-langpacks to install packages in portuguese_brazilian (pt_BR), but I don't know ho to do this. Some help? Thank you. Edward -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo

dnf-langpacks

2015-07-22 Thread tangent08
I wish use dnf-langpacks to install programs in portuguese brazilian (pt_BR), but I don't know how to do it Some helpe? Than you. Edward -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listin

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-22 Thread Ron Yorston
Matthew Miller wrote: >On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 07:20:11PM +0100, Ron Yorston wrote: >> I certainly get the impression that dnf tells me about updates less >> frequently than yum did. It also seems to pull in metadata less >> frequently. > >Keep in mind that we only push updates once per day *anyw

Re: Thank God for yum-deprecated :-)

2015-07-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 04:22:13 -0400, Radek Holy wrote: The most precise description is that it sets the SOLVER_FLAG_ALLOW_UNINSTALL flag which is described here: https://github.com/openSUSE/libsolv/blob/master/doc/libsolv-bindings.txt#L2024 I looked through that and it isn't easy to unde

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-22 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 07/22/2015 11:20 AM, Ron Yorston wrote: What's going on? Use "dnf repolist -v" to find out, in the future. It will print the date from the metadata you have, and the URL of the mirror from which it was retrieved. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or chang

Pinentry fails with gpg-agent and SSH

2015-07-22 Thread Jimmy Thrasibule
Hello, I'm running Fedora 22. I'm trying to setup GnuPG to have my SSH connections authenticated using my PGP authentication subkey that is located on my Yubikey Neo. I have a systemd unit starting the gpg-agent as following: /usr/bin/gpg-agent --homedir=%h/.gnupg --daemon --use-standard-so

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-22 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 07:20:11PM +0100, Ron Yorston wrote: > Suvayu Ali wrote: > >That said, I sometimes do not understand what's the harm in getting > >updates few hours later. dnf already tells you how old the metadata is > >when it starts, you can choose to get the latest metadata if it is to

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-22 Thread Pete Travis
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 07:20:11PM +0100, Ron Yorston wrote: > > Suvayu Ali wrote: > > >That said, I sometimes do not understand what's the harm in getting > > >updates few hours later. dnf already tells you how old the metadata is > > >when i

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-22 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi Pete, On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 05:42:15PM -0500, Pete Travis wrote: > > There is a timer unit, `/usr/lib/systemd/system/dnf-makecache.timer`, that > fires ten minutes after each boot then one hour following the execution of > each previous run. It triggers > `/usr/lib/systemd/system/dnf-makeca

Re: Creating kvm instance remotely

2015-07-22 Thread Alex
Hi, >> I'm aware of kickstart, but have never used it. Is that the best >> option, or is something like chef or puppet easier? >> ... >> I've experimented with virt-install, but that apparently doesn't >> provide the ability to select all of the install config options > > It might help to picture

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-22 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 07/22/2015 04:07 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: I think this is where things go wrong. OnBootSec handles powerdowns, what about intermittent connections? In principle, it is quite possible everytime the timer triggers the makecache service, the connection is absent. Which shouldn't matter. If no c

Re: Creating kvm instance remotely

2015-07-22 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 07/22/2015 04:12 PM, Alex wrote: # virt-install --name demo --hvm --memory 1024 --virt-type kvm \ -x "ks=/var/lib/libvirt/images/anaconda-ks.cfg" \ https://rhinstaller.github.io/anaconda/boot-options.html#inst-repo The kickstart location is read by the operating system inside the V

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-22 Thread Pete Travis
On Jul 22, 2015 6:52 PM, "Gordon Messmer" wrote: > > On 07/22/2015 04:07 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: >> >> I think this is where things go wrong. OnBootSec handles powerdowns, >> what about intermittent connections? In principle, it is quite possible >> everytime the timer triggers the makecache servi

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-22 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 07/22/2015 04:57 PM, Pete Travis wrote: Do you have references for the on-battery behavior? That's news to me. /usr/lib/systemd/system/dnf-makecache.service: ExecStart=/usr/bin/dnf -v makecache timer man dnf: dnf [options] makecache timer Like plain makecache but in

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/22/2015 07:39 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 07/22/2015 09:58 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: What you describe indicates you could be victim of what I conside a massive design flaw in dnf, the dnf guys have been ignoring ever since, because they believe to know better: When dnf encounters a broken depe

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-22 Thread jd1008
On 07/22/2015 09:58 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: What you describe indicates you could be victim of what I conside a massive design flaw in dnf, the dnf guys have been ignoring ever since, because they believe to know better: When dnf encounters a broken dependency, it doesn't tell you about it and

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/22/2015 09:32 PM, Ron Yorston wrote: Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 07:20:11PM +0100, Ron Yorston wrote: I certainly get the impression that dnf tells me about updates less frequently than yum did. It also seems to pull in metadata less frequently. Keep in mind that we

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-22 Thread dwoody5654
On 07/22/2015 09:41 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 07/22/2015 09:32 PM, Ron Yorston wrote: Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 07:20:11PM +0100, Ron Yorston wrote: I certainly get the impression that dnf tells me about updates less frequently than yum did. It also seems to pull in me

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:55 PM, dwoody5654 wrote: > Is there a way to make dnf provide info instead of being silent? > > The answer was posted earlier in the thread. Use dnf update --best. Refer to the man dnf for details. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsu

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-22 Thread Ron Yorston
Gordon Messmer wrote: >Use "dnf repolist -v" to find out, in the future. It will print the >date from the metadata you have, and the URL of the mirror from which it >was retrieved. OK, today 'dnf repolist -v' tells me: fedora: using metadata from Wed Jul 22 08:38:59 2015. rmy: using metadata f

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-22 Thread Radek Holy
- Original Message - > From: "Ralf Corsepius" > To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 6:58:49 PM > Subject: Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates > > On 07/22/2015 05:41 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: > > On 22.07.2015, Suvayu Ali wrote: > > > > I usually update weekly

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-22 Thread Radek Holy
- Original Message - > From: "Rick Stevens" > To: "Community support for Fedora users" > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 7:52:32 PM > Subject: Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates > > On 07/22/2015 10:38 AM, Maurizio Marini wrote: > > On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 20:33:27 -0400 > > Matthew Miller

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-22 Thread Radek Holy
- Original Message - > From: "Suvayu Ali" > To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 1:07:13 AM > Subject: Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates > > Hi Pete, > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 05:42:15PM -0500, Pete Travis wrote: > > > > There is a timer unit, `/usr/lib