Re: Thunderbird can't read Mail

2014-04-25 Thread Mickey
On 04/25/2014 02:33 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Thursday 24 April 2014 10:23 PM, Mickey wrote: Installed Fedora 20 from Fedora 18. fresh install. Moved old email Mail Folder from F18 .thunderbird and puts all of the contents fom old email into F20 .thunderbird. I can see from File Manager that th

Re: Thunderbird can't read Mail

2014-04-25 Thread Jatin K
On Friday 25 April 2014 02:57 PM, Mickey wrote: On 04/25/2014 02:33 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Thursday 24 April 2014 10:23 PM, Mickey wrote: accordingly HOW !! ? An What ? go to ur ~/.thunderbird directory, two file should be there [1],[2] [1] sometext.default [2] profiles.ini I've these t

System start halts due to Nvidia drivers

2014-04-25 Thread Eirik Gundersen
Followed this guide after clean install of Fedora. When I restart the system it hangs at the "started accounts service". I figure this is due to the newly installed nvidia drivers. Where did I go wrong? I read somewhere that maybe the driver for that particular kernel version was not ready? http

Re: Two SELinux-related things

2014-04-25 Thread Daniel J Walsh
On 04/24/2014 04:56 PM, Mark Brader wrote: >> # semanage fcontext -a -e /home /u >> # restorecon -R -v /u >> >> Should fix you up. > Bingo. Thanks for your time. > > I did wonder if this was the cause of the problem, but (1) it didn't happen > with the previous Linux configuration I had, and (2)

Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp

2014-04-25 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 24 April 2014, Rick Stevens sent: > Also note that by default, /tmp is now a tmpfs (RAMdisk) thing, so any > info in /tmp will NOT survive a reboot. What happens when you run out of RAM? Could that be the cause of /tmp being prematurely wiped out? -- [tim@localhost ~]$ u

Re: Thunderbird can't read Mail

2014-04-25 Thread Mickey
On 04/25/2014 06:45 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Friday 25 April 2014 02:57 PM, Mickey wrote: On 04/25/2014 02:33 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Thursday 24 April 2014 10:23 PM, Mickey wrote: accordingly HOW !! ? An What ? go to ur ~/.thunderbird directory, two file should be there [1],[2] [1] somete

Re: Thunderbird can't read Mail

2014-04-25 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage
Am 25.04.2014 17:01, schrieb Mickey: ls -l ~/.thunderbird drwx--. 2 mickey mickey 4096 Apr 22 17:28 Crash Reports drwx--. 5 mickey mickey 4096 Apr 25 05:27 kqe760mh.default -rw-rw-r--. 1 mickey mickey 94 Apr 22 17:28 profiles.ini Below is the profile.ini files .thunderbird/pro

Re: F20 Where's my system mail? SOLVED (I Hope)

2014-04-25 Thread Andrew Haley
On 04/16/2014 09:31 AM, Arthur Dent wrote: > Hello all, With what (I hope) will be my final update on this issue. > > This machine is a simple home server. It runs headless and is on 24/7. I an > in the habit running yum update once per month and only then rebooting (and > only then because the

Re: Thunderbird can't read Mail

2014-04-25 Thread Jatin K
On Friday 25 April 2014 08:31 PM, Mickey wrote: On 04/25/2014 06:45 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Friday 25 April 2014 02:57 PM, Mickey wrote: On 04/25/2014 02:33 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Thursday 24 April 2014 10:23 PM, Mickey wrote: Local Folders Local Folders-1 mail.comcast-1.net mail.comcast.net s

Re: Thunderbird can't read Mail

2014-04-25 Thread Mickey
On 04/25/2014 11:18 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Friday 25 April 2014 08:31 PM, Mickey wrote: On 04/25/2014 06:45 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Friday 25 April 2014 02:57 PM, Mickey wrote: On 04/25/2014 02:33 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Thursday 24 April 2014 10:23 PM, Mickey wrote: Local Folders Local Folder

Re: Thunderbird can't read Mail

2014-04-25 Thread Mickey
On 04/25/2014 11:14 AM, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: Am 25.04.2014 17:01, schrieb Mickey: ls -l ~/.thunderbird drwx--. 2 mickey mickey 4096 Apr 22 17:28 Crash Reports drwx--. 5 mickey mickey 4096 Apr 25 05:27 kqe760mh.default -rw-rw-r--. 1 mickey mickey 94 Apr 22 17:28 profiles.ini

Re: Thunderbird can't read Mail

2014-04-25 Thread Arthur Dent
On Fri, 2014-04-25 at 11:36 -0400, Mickey wrote: > On 04/25/2014 11:18 AM, Jatin K wrote: > > On Friday 25 April 2014 08:31 PM, Mickey wrote: > >> > >> On 04/25/2014 06:45 AM, Jatin K wrote: > >>> On Friday 25 April 2014 02:57 PM, Mickey wrote: > > On 04/25/2014 02:33 AM, Jatin K wrote: >

Re: Thunderbird can't read Mail

2014-04-25 Thread Mickey
On 04/25/2014 11:43 AM, Arthur Dent wrote: On Fri, 2014-04-25 at 11:36 -0400, Mickey wrote: On 04/25/2014 11:18 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Friday 25 April 2014 08:31 PM, Mickey wrote: On 04/25/2014 06:45 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Friday 25 April 2014 02:57 PM, Mickey wrote: On 04/25/2014 02:33 AM, J

Re: Thunderbird can't read Mail

2014-04-25 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 04/25/2014 11:36 AM, Mickey wrote: > > On 04/25/2014 11:18 AM, Jatin K wrote: >> On Friday 25 April 2014 08:31 PM, Mickey wrote: >>> >>> On 04/25/2014 06:45 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Friday 25 April 2014 02:57 PM, Mickey wrote: > > On 04/25/2014 02:33 AM, Jatin K wrote: >> On Thursd

SOLVED: Thunderbird can't read Mail

2014-04-25 Thread Mickey
On 04/25/2014 12:00 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: On 04/25/2014 11:36 AM, Mickey wrote: On 04/25/2014 11:18 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Friday 25 April 2014 08:31 PM, Mickey wrote: On 04/25/2014 06:45 AM, Jatin K wrote: On Friday 25 April 2014 02:57 PM, Mickey wrote: On 04/25/2014 02:33 AM, Jatin K

Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp

2014-04-25 Thread Rick Stevens
On 04/25/2014 06:05 AM, Tim issued this missive: Allegedly, on or about 24 April 2014, Rick Stevens sent: Also note that by default, /tmp is now a tmpfs (RAMdisk) thing, so any info in /tmp will NOT survive a reboot. What happens when you run out of RAM? Could that be the cause of /tmp being

Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp

2014-04-25 Thread benfell
Rick Stevens writes: IMHO using a tmpfs for /tmp is a spectacularly stupid thing to do. How it got by the vetting process is beyond me. I agree. A number of distributions are doing it, however. If you have lots of RAM, I guess it's okay, and it certainly would be faster for /tmp access. --

Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp

2014-04-25 Thread Justin Brown
> IMHO using a tmpfs for /tmp is a spectacularly stupid thing to do. How it got > by the vetting process is beyond me. There shouldn't be anything that uses anything beyond a negligible amount of storage. Remember that there is no guarantee that /tmp data is preserved between invocations. Why wou

Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp

2014-04-25 Thread benfell
Justin Brown writes: Complaints about this sort of thing are either a failure of the user or software developer to keep up to date on the file system standards. My understanding was that file system hierarchy was supposed to be about how files are arranged so that they would be consistent ac

Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp

2014-04-25 Thread Justin Brown
> To mandate RAM allocation in this way will take many people, including > myself, by surprise. It's been this way on Fedora for over two years (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/tmp-on-tmpfs). Most other new distributions do it, too. From that feature page, "Solaris has been doing this sin

Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp

2014-04-25 Thread benfell
Justin Brown writes: 50% is just the absolute maximum that can be used, and it's a default which can be controlled via mount option (or /lib/systemd/system/tmp.mount Options=size=... with systemd). Thank you for telling me what to kill. I have way too much trouble with my systems being swap-b

Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp

2014-04-25 Thread Justin Brown
David, This doesn't make sense. Tmpfs can be swapped out, so you're gaining absolutely nothing and taking on a development and maintenance burden. IO for /tmp would have to come from disk when using tmpfs (in the case of heavy swapping) or a traditional file system either way. In the end, we're pr

Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp

2014-04-25 Thread benfell
Justin Brown writes: David, This doesn't make sense. Tmpfs can be swapped out, so you're gaining absolutely nothing and taking on a development and maintenance burden. IO for /tmp would have to come from disk when using tmpfs (in the case of heavy swapping) or a traditional file system either w

Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp

2014-04-25 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 25 Apr 2014, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 24 April 2014, Rick Stevens sent: Also note that by default, /tmp is now a tmpfs (RAMdisk) thing, so any info in /tmp will NOT survive a reboot. What happens when you run out of RAM? Could that be the cause of /tmp being prematurely wipe

Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp

2014-04-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/25/2014 02:15 PM, benf...@parts-unknown.org wrote: To me, the idea of sticking /tmp in RAM is absolutely bizarre. And the fact that it can be swapped is no help: It's one more thing to swap. I want *less* swapping, not more. How much swapping is your system doing? Give us the results of

Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp

2014-04-25 Thread benfell
Joe Zeff writes: On 04/25/2014 02:15 PM, benf...@parts-unknown.org wrote: To me, the idea of sticking /tmp in RAM is absolutely bizarre. And the fact that it can be swapped is no help: It's one more thing to swap. I want *less* swapping, not more. How much swapping is your system doing? Give

Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp

2014-04-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/25/2014 04:36 PM, benf...@parts-unknown.org wrote: And this is at a relatively slack time. I'm not noticing impaired performance right now: [root@munich]/etc/ejabberd# free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 3254 31281

Re: SOLVED: Thunderbird can't read Mail

2014-04-25 Thread Stephen Morris
Hi Mickey, Just my 2 cents worth, which may or may not help. As I understand the way Thunderbird works, the mail files in your profile directory that Thunderbird uses are defined in the Local directory text box in the Message Storage section at the bottom of your Sever Settings in your Acc

Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp

2014-04-25 Thread benfell
Joe Zeff writes: On 04/25/2014 04:36 PM, benf...@parts-unknown.org wrote: And this is at a relatively slack time. I'm not noticing impaired performance right now: [root@munich]/etc/ejabberd# free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 3254

Re: SOLVED: Thunderbird can't read Mail

2014-04-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/25/2014 05:06 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: Just my 2 cents worth, which may or may not help. As I understand the way Thunderbird works, the mail files in your profile directory that Thunderbird uses are defined in the Local directory text box in the Message Storage section at the bottom o

Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp

2014-04-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/25/2014 05:08 PM, benf...@parts-unknown.org wrote: It's already a 64-bit system. I am hoping and expecting to be able to increase the RAM later this year. But I can't, yet: It's a dedicated server in Munich that I'm renting month-to-month and I have to be able to swing the rent. ;-) Rent,

Re: System start halts due to Nvidia drivers

2014-04-25 Thread Stephen Morris
Hi Eirik, I assume from this you are trying to use the proprietary nvidia drivers which are not in the Fedora repositories, would this be correct? Either way, when you system hangs you should be able to press Alt-F1 or Alt-F7 depending on how your system is configured to start a new session

Re: Coding Practice [was Re: Serious OpenSSL vulnerability]

2014-04-25 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2014-04-23 at 23:26 -0400, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > millions and millions of affected users who had to go ahead and change > passwords for many many things they rely on One thing I haven't seen mentioned, here nor elsewhere, was whether the bug could only affect you if they tried to hack th

Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp

2014-04-25 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2014-04-25 at 10:03 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > No, but IIRC the tmpfs filesystem created and mounted on /tmp is 50% > of your system RAM. Once that is committed, it's done. It won't use up > all of your RAM and /tmp won't get any bigger than that, but then > again half of your available R

Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp

2014-04-25 Thread Garry T. Williams
On 4-25-14 10:03:11 Rick Stevens wrote: > No, but IIRC the tmpfs filesystem created and mounted on /tmp is 50% > of your system RAM. Once that is committed, it's done. It won't use > up all of your RAM and /tmp won't get any bigger than that, but then > again half of your available RAM is no longer

Re: Disable whatever is cleaning /tmp

2014-04-25 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 04/26/2014 04:45 AM, Tim wrote: On Fri, 2014-04-25 at 10:03 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: No, but IIRC the tmpfs filesystem created and mounted on /tmp is 50% of your system RAM. Once that is committed, it's done. It won't use up all of your RAM and /tmp won't get any bigger than that, but then