Re: Fedora's audience

2013-12-05 Thread DB
On 12/04/2013 11:14 PM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: Subject: Fedora's audience From: Beartooth Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 18:25:02 + (UTC) Hi all, Going on 72, worked with computors(!) before they became computers (started 1963) using Fedora since FC6, both on desktop & lapto

Re: Fedora's audience

2013-12-05 Thread Bob Marcan
> On 12/04/2013 10:25 AM, Beartooth wrote: > > By this time, at an informed guess, the Boomers must be retiring > > in spates and floods. My subjective impression is that I see more fellow > > retirees than before, but I can't guess numbers. Does anyone here have > > such numbers, or know of a

Re: Fedora's audience

2013-12-05 Thread fernando
Hi, >>> By this time, at an informed guess, the Boomers must be retiring >>> in spates and floods. My subjective impression is that I see more >>> fellow >>> retirees than before, but I can't guess numbers. Does anyone here >>> have >>> such numbers, or know of a source from whence to get the

ssh tunel failure.

2013-12-05 Thread Paweł Sikora
Hi all, i've recently reinstalled my previous distro with fc20-beta and observing strange ssh tunels disconnection. i'm establishing tunels in this way: ssh -2fCN -p ${non-default port} -L ${local_port}:${endpoint}:{$endpoint_port} ${login}@${gatE}. after some time (mostly few minutes) all unus

Re: ssh tunel failure.

2013-12-05 Thread Carlos "casep" Sepulveda
On 5 December 2013 11:59, Paweł Sikora wrote: > Hi all, > > i've recently reinstalled my previous distro with fc20-beta and observing > strange ssh tunels disconnection. i'm establishing tunels in this way: > > ssh -2fCN -p ${non-default port} -L ${local_port}:${endpoint}:{$endpoint_port} > ${logi

Re: ssh tunel failure.

2013-12-05 Thread poma
On 05.12.2013 16:04, Carlos "casep" Sepulveda wrote: > On 5 December 2013 11:59, Paweł Sikora wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> i've recently reinstalled my previous distro with fc20-beta and observing >> strange ssh tunels disconnection. i'm establishing tunels in this way: >> >> ssh -2fCN -p ${non-default

Re: local user get created magically ! system hacked ?

2013-12-05 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 04.12.2013 23:35, Jehan Procaccia wrote: > > would remove gnome-initial-setup package be a solution without bad side > effect ? Yes, you can safely remove this package without any negative consequences. I did it in the past on some network managed boxes and all those systems work perfectly. I

Re: local user get created magically ! system hacked ?

2013-12-05 Thread poma
On 05.12.2013 16:24, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > On 04.12.2013 23:35, Jehan Procaccia wrote: >> >> would remove gnome-initial-setup package be a solution without bad side >> effect ? > > Yes, you can safely remove this package without any negative > consequences. I did it in the past on some net

Re: ssh tunel failure.

2013-12-05 Thread John Aldrich
Quoting "Carlos \"casep\" Sepulveda" : On 5 December 2013 11:59, Paweł Sikora wrote: Hi all, i've recently reinstalled my previous distro with fc20-beta and observing strange ssh tunels disconnection. i'm establishing tunels in this way: ssh -2fCN -p ${non-default port} -L ${local_port}:$

Re: ssh tunel failure.

2013-12-05 Thread Carlos "casep" Sepulveda
On 5 December 2013 12:22, poma wrote: > Are you able to direct people to the proper lists!? Well, the ConnectTimeout parameter in ssh_config is by default 1, (and he need to set it ot 0), in any Fedora, so it isn't a "Fedora 20" issue. Unless he already has it on 0 and it's not working, then cou

Re: local user get created magically ! system hacked ?

2013-12-05 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 05.12.2013 16:31, poma wrote: > On 05.12.2013 16:24, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: >> On 04.12.2013 23:35, Jehan Procaccia wrote: >>> >>> would remove gnome-initial-setup package be a solution without bad side >>> effect ? >> >> Yes, you can safely remove this package without any negative >> conse

Re: ssh tunel failure.

2013-12-05 Thread poma
On 05.12.2013 16:33, Carlos "casep" Sepulveda wrote: > On 5 December 2013 12:22, poma wrote: >> Are you able to direct people to the proper lists!? > > > Well, the ConnectTimeout parameter in ssh_config is by default 1, (and > he need to set it ot 0), in any Fedora, so it isn't a "Fedora 20" > i

Re: Fedora's audience

2013-12-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:05 AM, wrote: > if you want numbers, you should setup a web pool. E-mail replies, no > matter how nice they are, won't give you numbers. And any such numbers will be self-selecting and hence unreliable. I don' t know how many people are on this list, but regular poste

Re: ssh tunel failure.

2013-12-05 Thread Paweł Sikora
On Thursday 05 of December 2013 12:04:07 Carlos casep Sepulveda wrote: > On 5 December 2013 11:59, Paweł Sikora wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > i've recently reinstalled my previous distro with fc20-beta and observing > > strange ssh tunels disconnection. i'm establishing tunels in this way: > > > >

Re: ssh tunel failure.

2013-12-05 Thread Paweł Sikora
On Thursday 05 of December 2013 10:34:02 John Aldrich wrote: > Quoting "Carlos \"casep\" Sepulveda" : > > On 5 December 2013 11:59, Paweł Sikora wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> i've recently reinstalled my previous distro with fc20-beta and observing > >> strange ssh tunels disconnection. i'm estab

How to install DVD version from iso on hard drive -

2013-12-05 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
I've installed another hard drive in this computer and would like to be able to install Fedora-20 on it from an exiting F-20-beta iso file already on this same computer. I can't seem to find any instructions for doing this. No matter what I have asked Google it keeps telling me how to make an

Re: How to install DVD version from iso on hard drive -

2013-12-05 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 05.12.2013 20:20, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > > I've installed another hard drive in this computer and would like to be > able to install Fedora-20 on it from an exiting F-20-beta iso file > already on this same computer. I can't seem to find any instructions for > doing this. No

Re: How to install DVD version from iso on hard drive -

2013-12-05 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 05/12/13 14:30, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: Maybe this will help you (section: How to test): https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_install_repository_Hard_drive_variation Mateusz Marzantowicz -- Well I couldn't make that work, after messing for a while I figured dvd's are cheaper t

Re: ssh tunel failure.

2013-12-05 Thread poma
On 05.12.2013 19:13, Paweł Sikora wrote: > here's example debug log from short web session (firefox+ 2x page reload > +quit) via tunnel. > > (... authorization cut ...) https://fpaste.org & F20 ain't an official, so https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test poma -- users mailing

Re: How to install DVD version from iso on hard drive -

2013-12-05 Thread poma
On 05.12.2013 20:20, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > > I've installed another hard drive in this computer and would like to be > able to install Fedora-20 on it from an exiting F-20-beta iso file > already on this same computer. I can't seem to find any instructions for > doing this.

Re: How to install DVD version from iso on hard drive -

2013-12-05 Thread David
On 12/5/2013 9:15 PM, poma wrote: > On 05.12.2013 20:20, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: >> >> I've installed another hard drive in this computer and would like to be >> able to install Fedora-20 on it from an exiting F-20-beta iso file >> already on this same computer. I can't seem to f

Re: How to install DVD version from iso on hard drive -

2013-12-05 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 05/12/13 21:15, poma wrote: F20 ain't an official, so https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test poma But the problem is that Fedora-19 wont boot, forget F-20b! Got to fix F-19's grub. -- http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD Box 10 Fedora-19/64 XFCE Linux -- users mailing list users@

Re: How to install DVD version from iso on hard drive -

2013-12-05 Thread David
On 12/5/2013 10:02 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > On 05/12/13 21:15, poma wrote: >> F20 ain't an official, so >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test >> >> >> poma > > But the problem is that Fedora-19 wont boot, forget F-20b! Got to fix > F-19's grub. > Can't s

Re: How to install DVD version from iso on hard drive -

2013-12-05 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 05/12/13 22:11, David wrote: > > But the problem is that Fedora-19 wont boot, forget F-20b! Got to fix > F-19's grub. > Can't say about Fedora 19 so this is a 'try this' and I really don't like 'try this' suggestions. But... In the past I have booted the *same version* disk and told it to *

Re: How to install DVD version from iso on hard drive -

2013-12-05 Thread Roger
On 12/06/2013 02:20 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 05/12/13 22:11, David wrote: > > But the problem is that Fedora-19 wont boot, forget F-20b! Got to fix > F-19's grub. > Can't say about Fedora 19 so this is a 'try this' and I really don't like 'try this' suggestions. But...

Re: How to install DVD version from iso on hard drive -

2013-12-05 Thread David
On 12/5/2013 10:20 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > On 05/12/13 22:11, David wrote: >>> > >>> > But the problem is that Fedora-19 wont boot, forget F-20b! Got to fix >>> > F-19's grub. >>> > >> Can't say about Fedora 19 so this is a 'try this' and I really don't >> like 'try this' sug

Re: How to install DVD version from iso on hard drive -

2013-12-05 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 09:27:01PM -0500, David wrote: > On 12/5/2013 9:15 PM, poma wrote: > > On 05.12.2013 20:20, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > >> > >> I've installed another hard drive in this computer and would like to be > >> able to install Fedora-20 on it from an exiting F-20-b

Re: How to install DVD version from iso on hard drive -

2013-12-05 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 05/12/13 22:33, Roger wrote: I thought Fedora Linux was a friendly install, didn't overwrite other systems like Windows does? Something has changed ... Bob Doesn't usually overwrite unless told to.. hope nothing's changes with the install? roger I thought I knew how to deal with the in

Re: How to install DVD version from iso on hard drive -

2013-12-05 Thread David
On 12/5/2013 10:49 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 09:27:01PM -0500, David wrote: >> On 12/5/2013 9:15 PM, poma wrote: >>> On 05.12.2013 20:20, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: I've installed another hard drive in this computer and would like to be able

Re: How to install DVD version from iso on hard drive -

2013-12-05 Thread poma
On 06.12.2013 04:02, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > But the problem is that Fedora-19 wont boot, forget F-20b! Got to fix > F-19's grub. Roger that. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraprojec

Re: How to install DVD version from iso on hard drive -

2013-12-05 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 5, 2013, at 8:20 PM, "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote: > > I thought Fedora Linux was a friendly install, didn't overwrite other systems > like Windows does? No installer should overwrite itself or another system without it being clear it's doing so, or ideally only possible

Re: How to install DVD version from iso on hard drive -

2013-12-05 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 5, 2013, at 8:41 PM, David wrote: > > A Live-CD (DVD) will, all that I know of, *always* over write an > existing install. That's definitely not the default behavior with the Fedora installer since Fedora 18. With Fedora 17 and older, the default option was to replace existing Linux, a

Re: How to install DVD version from iso on hard drive -

2013-12-05 Thread Roger
On 12/06/2013 02:48 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 05/12/13 22:33, Roger wrote: I thought Fedora Linux was a friendly install, didn't overwrite other systems like Windows does? Something has changed ... Bob Doesn't usually overwrite unless told to.. hope nothing's changes w

Re: How to install DVD version from iso on hard drive -

2013-12-05 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 5, 2013, at 10:54 PM, Roger wrote: > On 12/06/2013 02:48 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: >> On 05/12/13 22:33, Roger wrote: I thought Fedora Linux was a friendly install, didn't overwrite other systems like Windows does? Something has changed ... B