Re: Expectation of privacy

2013-05-03 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 15:04 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > do think it's a worthy topic, I'm just not sure that the Fedora list > is the place for it since it has really nothing specifically to do > with Fedora, or indeed with Linux, or operating systems, or software > or computers, but with p

Re: Howto configure KDE to always open new windows?

2013-05-03 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 14:21 -0700, Alan Evans wrote: > if I open a new file from, for example, Dolphin, the system picks one > of the existing kate windows and opens the file in that. The problem > is that I never want that to happen. It's especially aggravating when > the window that opens the fil

Re: Expectation of privacy

2013-05-03 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 05/03/2013 11:10 AM, Tim wrote: Though, having said that, it has been my policy that if someone from a mailing list sent me a cowardly private nastygram, I would reply back to the list. They rarely ever did that to me more than once, after that. Well, people who are replying to PM on lists,

Re: not receiving anything from users at lists.fedoraproject.

2013-05-03 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 23:51 +0200, poma wrote: > Regardless of how it can be called, it'd be useful not only for > testing throughput, but also for practicing mailing list fine arts - > and of course, also for offtopicing. ;) > > e.g. multit...@lists.fedoraproject.org It can be beneficial to hav

Re: Extraordinary delay in accessing web-site

2013-05-03 Thread Timothy Murphy
poma wrote: >> I have a Linksys WVC54GCA camera in a remote site, >> which I access at http://xyz.com:8080 on one of my Fedora-18 laptops. >> >> For some reason there is now a delay of an hour or so >> in getting the image on my laptop. >> This occurs on both my Fedora-18/KDE laptops, >> whether

Re: Extraordinary delay in accessing web-site

2013-05-03 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 03 May 2013 11:23:10 +0100 Timothy Murphy wrote: > poma wrote: > > > Are you willing to provide us a real link or you asking people to > > spend time in vain. > > http://79.19.132.143:8080 > 2 seconds to load from clicking the link here in claws-mail: Waterford City. firefox-20.0-1.fc1

Re: Extraordinary delay in accessing web-site

2013-05-03 Thread Steve Searle
Around 11:23am on Friday, May 03, 2013 (UK time), Timothy Murphy scrawled: > poma wrote: > > >> I have a Linksys WVC54GCA camera in a remote site, > >> which I access at http://xyz.com:8080 on one of my Fedora-18 laptops. > >> > >> For some reason there is now a delay of an hour or so > >> in ge

Re: Extraordinary delay in accessing web-site

2013-05-03 Thread Timothy Murphy
Frank Murphy wrote: >> > Are you willing to provide us a real link or you asking people to >> > spend time in vain. >> >> http://79.19.132.143:8080 >> > > 2 seconds to load from clicking the link here in claws-mail: > Waterford City. > firefox-20.0-1.fc18.x86_64 That's really interesting. Than

Re: Extraordinary delay in accessing web-site

2013-05-03 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 03 May 2013 12:10:15 +0100 Timothy Murphy wrote: > > 2 seconds to load from clicking the link here in claws-mail: > > Waterford City. > > firefox-20.0-1.fc18.x86_64 > > That's really interesting. Thanks for the response. > What is the difference between us? Aside from First Names, no id

Re: Extraordinary delay in accessing web-site

2013-05-03 Thread Martin Airs
On Sunday 28 Apr 2013 20:30:54 Timothy Murphy wrote: > I have a Linksys WVC54GCA camera in a remote site, > which I access at http://xyz.com:8080 on one of my Fedora-18 laptops. > > For some reason there is now a delay of an hour or so > in getting the image on my laptop. > This occurs on both my

Re: Extraordinary delay in accessing web-site

2013-05-03 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 03/05/13 07:53, Martin Airs wrote: I can get VLC to play this using the url... http://79.19.132.143:8080/img/video.mjpeg but apart from that it just sits there in a browser endlessly transferring data, firefox and chrome. hmmm seems odd Martin Yes, VLC produces a full screen image here

Network Manager Problems

2013-05-03 Thread Lawrence Graves
I have reported the fact that I am having trouble with connecting to my 5ghz wifito bugzilla. Was that the place to report. If not where do I report this problem. I am running Fedora 19 Beta TC2 on Dell 9400 Inspiron with iwl4965 card which handles 2.4ghz and 5ghz bands. I replaced the card and

Re: Upgrade to 3.8.8-100: now boot loops ! solved: grub2 bug.

2013-05-03 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 22:31 -0400, sean darcy wrote: > On 05/02/2013 03:07 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 13:17 -0400, sean darcy wrote: > >> On 04/30/2013 02:05 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > >>> On 04/30/2013 10:14 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > * make sure "installonly_limit" in

Re: Network Manager Problems

2013-05-03 Thread Kevin Martin
On 05/03/13 07:29, Lawrence Graves wrote: > I have reported the fact that I am having trouble with connecting to my 5ghz > wifito bugzilla. Was that the place to report. If not > where do I report this problem. I am running Fedora 19 Beta TC2 on Dell 9400 > Inspiron with iwl4965 card which handle

Re: Network Manager Problems

2013-05-03 Thread Lawrence Graves
On 05/03/2013 07:28 AM, Kevin Martin wrote: On 05/03/13 07:29, Lawrence Graves wrote: I have reported the fact that I am having trouble with connecting to my 5ghz wifito bugzilla. Was that the place to report. If not where do I report this problem. I am running Fedora 19 Beta TC2 on Dell 9400

Re: Howto configure KDE to always open new windows?

2013-05-03 Thread Alan Evans
Tim wrote: > Perhaps redefining the complaint: You want the window to open in the > same screen as where the mouse currently is. > > If so, perhaps there's an option available along those lines. > Perhaps. But I'm not really bothered by the existing behavior when KDE is opening a new window. Th

Re: Network Manager Problems

2013-05-03 Thread Bill Oliver
On Fri, 3 May 2013, Kevin Martin wrote: On 05/03/13 07:29, Lawrence Graves wrote: Lawrence, If you replaced the card and then it worked I'm not sure how you can then report that the problem was not the card. Not only did you replace the card but then you also installed Fedora 18, thereby el

Re: Network Manager Problems

2013-05-03 Thread Lawrence Graves
On 05/03/2013 08:14 AM, Bill Oliver wrote: On Fri, 3 May 2013, Kevin Martin wrote: On 05/03/13 07:29, Lawrence Graves wrote: Lawrence, If you replaced the card and then it worked I'm not sure how you can then report that the problem was not the card. Not only did you replace the card but

Re: Howto configure KDE to always open new windows?

2013-05-03 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Alan Evans wrote: > Hello all! > > My devel machine at work is running F17 and KDE. There are lots of little > things about KDE that bug me, but this one is driving me batty. > > I keep 12 workspaces open. Yes, 12 -- it works for me. At any time, I'll > have multipl

Re: not receiving anything from users at lists.fedoraproject.

2013-05-03 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 03 May 2013 19:02:41 +0930 Tim wrote: > On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 23:51 +0200, poma wrote: > > Regardless of how it can be called, it'd be useful not only for > > testing throughput, but also for practicing mailing list fine arts - > > and of course, also for offtopicing. ;) > > > > e.g. mu

Re: Extraordinary delay in accessing web-site

2013-05-03 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/03/13 18:42, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Fri, 03 May 2013 11:23:10 +0100 > Timothy Murphy wrote: > >> poma wrote: >> >>> Are you willing to provide us a real link or you asking people to >>> spend time in vain. >> http://79.19.132.143:8080 >> > 2 seconds to load from clicking the link here in c

virsh ok with TLS but virt-viewer not

2013-05-03 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi there, I folowed instructions on: http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/TLSSetup To setup TLS conections to a qemu+kvm host, for remote administration. I guess I did everything right, because sudo virsh -c qemu+tls://myhost/system Works fine. So far every command I tried is ok. Giving the same UR

Re: F17 recalcitrant X server

2013-05-03 Thread Beartooth
On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 14:03:09 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > You need to change to a different TTY first, then log in. Hmmm... TTY is one of those things I've often seen and never really understood. Wikipedia has a great long article, which I'll try to get around to. Meanwhile, a f

Re: Network Manager Problems

2013-05-03 Thread Bill Oliver
On Fri, 3 May 2013, Lawrence Graves wrote: On 05/03/2013 08:14 AM, Bill Oliver wrote: I agree with you, I believe it is the drivers too. I assumed it was the network manager because I am able to connect to my 2.4ghz wi-fi. Aren't the same drivers used to connect to 2.4ghz the drivers to c

Re: Extraordinary delay in accessing web-site

2013-05-03 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 03 May 2013 23:29:08 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > When you click on "View Video" are you saying you get the video > very quickly? > Yes, it was looking out at vineyard? -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change sub

Re: Expectation of privacy

2013-05-03 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 3 May 2013, Bill Oliver wrote: On Thu, 2 May 2013, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: BTW, one of them asks members not to top-post in replies ... Yeah, sorry. This is the only mailinglist I belong to where folk still obsess about it. It's been interesting, over the years, to watch the

Re: Extraordinary delay in accessing web-site

2013-05-03 Thread poma
On 03.05.2013 12:23, Timothy Murphy wrote: > poma wrote: > >>> I have a Linksys WVC54GCA camera in a remote site, >>> which I access at http://xyz.com:8080 on one of my Fedora-18 laptops. >>> >>> For some reason there is now a delay of an hour or so >>> in getting the image on my laptop. >>> This

Re: Expectation of privacy

2013-05-03 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 03 May 2013, Ralf Corsepius sent: > Well, people who are replying to PM on lists, to me qualify as "not > showing any respect to privacy" and them not being able to destinguish > between "confidential" and "public" correspondence. > > That said, to me, replying to private

Re: Extraordinary delay in accessing web-site

2013-05-03 Thread poma
On 03.05.2013 14:08, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > On 03/05/13 07:53, Martin Airs wrote: >> I can get VLC to play this using the url... >> >> http://79.19.132.143:8080/img/video.mjpeg >> >> but apart from that it just sits there in a browser endlessly >> transferring >> data, firefox a

Re: Network Manager Problems

2013-05-03 Thread Rick Stevens
On 05/03/2013 08:56 AM, Bill Oliver issued this missive: On Fri, 3 May 2013, Lawrence Graves wrote: On 05/03/2013 08:14 AM, Bill Oliver wrote: I agree with you, I believe it is the drivers too. I assumed it was the network manager because I am able to connect to my 2.4ghz wi-fi. Aren't the s

Re: virsh ok with TLS but virt-viewer not

2013-05-03 Thread Rick Stevens
On 05/03/2013 08:34 AM, Fernando Lozano issued this missive: Hi there, I folowed instructions on: http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/TLSSetup To setup TLS conections to a qemu+kvm host, for remote administration. I guess I did everything right, because sudo virsh -c qemu+tls://myhost/system Works

Re: Extraordinary delay in accessing web-site

2013-05-03 Thread poma
On 03.05.2013 18:53, poma wrote: > On 03.05.2013 14:08, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: >> On 03/05/13 07:53, Martin Airs wrote: >>> I can get VLC to play this using the url... >>> >>> http://79.19.132.143:8080/img/video.mjpeg >>> >>> but apart from that it just sits there in a browser end

Re: Network Manager Problems

2013-05-03 Thread Bill Oliver
On Fri, 3 May 2013, Rick Stevens wrote: It is not uncommon for the routers to have MTUs set to <1500 and that can cause problems--especially if you're using a VPN gateway. Depending on how screwy it is, I often have to use NAT Traversal Mode cisco-udp in my vpnc configs. While it is

Re: Network Manager Problems

2013-05-03 Thread Rick Stevens
On 05/03/2013 10:01 AM, Bill Oliver issued this missive: On Fri, 3 May 2013, Rick Stevens wrote: It is not uncommon for the routers to have MTUs set to <1500 and that can cause problems--especially if you're using a VPN gateway. Depending on how screwy it is, I often have to use NAT Tra

Re: Extraordinary delay in accessing web-site

2013-05-03 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 03 May 2013, Timothy Murphy sent: > http://79.19.132.143:8080 Browsing through an ADSL2+ modem/router (around 8 Mb/s) that does NAT for the computers on the 100 Mb/s LAN... Using current version of Google Chrome: Few seconds to load the initial page. Quite a few seconds to

Re: Extraordinary delay in accessing web-site

2013-05-03 Thread poma
On 03.05.2013 19:00, poma wrote: > On 03.05.2013 18:53, poma wrote: >> On 03.05.2013 14:08, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: >>> On 03/05/13 07:53, Martin Airs wrote: I can get VLC to play this using the url... http://79.19.132.143:8080/img/video.mjpeg but apart fro

Re: Extraordinary delay in accessing web-site

2013-05-03 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 03 May 2013, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA sent: > Yes, VLC produces a full screen image here about four seconds after > starting VLC with the address > > http://79.19.132.143:8080/img/video.mjpeg. Likewise... -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.8.8-100.fc17.x

HDMI audio stops then starts again?

2013-05-03 Thread Tom Horsley
Just wondering if this sounds familiar. I installed updates this morning and rebooted to get the latest kernel-3.8.9-200.fc18.x86_64 running. I'm using HDMI audio by default and it was working fine for a few hours then suddenly stopped. I turned on my receiver and switched to SPDIF output, and h

Re: Network Manager Problems

2013-05-03 Thread Bill Oliver
On Fri, 3 May 2013, Rick Stevens wrote: Hmmm. Never thought of that. I'll put F18 on my toshiba and bring it in on Monday and see if that changes anything. And, yeah, I use a vpn. Thanks for the tip! Hope it works for you. "Even a blind pig finds the occasional truffle." (the blind pig b

Re: Extraordinary delay in accessing web-site

2013-05-03 Thread poma
On 03.05.2013 18:37, poma wrote: > Someone just went by car from the parking lot. :) > - CentOS release 5.9 (Final) > - Mozilla Firefox 17.0.5 > > You are right, Fedora 18/Firefox 20: > Transferring data from 79.19.132.143… - endlessly, zilch. Sameo, Fedora release 17 (Beefy Miracle) Mozilla Fir

Re: Extraordinary delay in accessing web-site

2013-05-03 Thread poma
On 03.05.2013 19:19, poma wrote: > On 03.05.2013 18:37, poma wrote: > >> Someone just went by car from the parking lot. :) >> - CentOS release 5.9 (Final) >> - Mozilla Firefox 17.0.5 >> >> You are right, Fedora 18/Firefox 20: >> Transferring data from 79.19.132.143… - endlessly, zilch. > > Sameo,

Re: virsh ok with TLS but virt-viewer not

2013-05-03 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi there, I folowed instructions on: http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/TLSSetup To setup TLS conections to a qemu+kvm host, for remote administration. I guess I did everything right, because sudo virsh -c qemu+tls://myhost/system But I cannot open any guest console, be it from virt-manager or from

F18 sometimes mouse freezes only on application menus

2013-05-03 Thread antonio
sometimes on my F18 (that is updated since F10) I cannot use mouse on menus of applications but same mouse is working on Gnome menus, I have to re-open session and everything works fine. Not sure but it happens more frequently after computer is left unused for some time. Any idea where to look?

Re: Extraordinary delay in accessing web-site

2013-05-03 Thread Timothy Murphy
poma wrote: > Fedora 18 > vlc http://79.19.132.143:8080/img/video.mjpeg > VLC media player 2.0.6 Twoflower (revision 2.0.6-0-gbe9623c) > [0x82a108] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use > 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface. Thanks very much to you and all those who responded.

Re: Network Manager Problems

2013-05-03 Thread Rick Stevens
On 05/03/2013 10:17 AM, Bill Oliver issued this missive: On Fri, 3 May 2013, Rick Stevens wrote: Hmmm. Never thought of that. I'll put F18 on my toshiba and bring it in on Monday and see if that changes anything. And, yeah, I use a vpn. Thanks for the tip! Hope it works for you. "Even a

Re: Network Manager Problems

2013-05-03 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/03/2013 02:10 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: Not necessarily. It's sometimes rather difficult to differentiate between a hardware problem, driver issue or something further upstream. You just have to be methodical in analyzing the issue. Often it is out of your control (e.g. not being able to see

OpenJRE or Oracle Jre

2013-05-03 Thread Jim
Fedora 18 ,is there openJRE instead of Oracles JRE ? What Packages would I download ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_gu

Re: Extraordinary delay in accessing web-site

2013-05-03 Thread poma
On 03.05.2013 22:43, Timothy Murphy wrote: > poma wrote: > >> Fedora 18 >> vlc http://79.19.132.143:8080/img/video.mjpeg >> VLC media player 2.0.6 Twoflower (revision 2.0.6-0-gbe9623c) >> [0x82a108] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use >> 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface. >

Re: OpenJRE or Oracle Jre

2013-05-03 Thread poma
On 04.05.2013 00:01, Jim wrote: > Fedora 18 ,is there openJRE instead of Oracles JRE ? > > What Packages would I download ? alternatives --config java ;) poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/ma

Re: OpenJRE or Oracle Jre

2013-05-03 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Jim wrote: > Fedora 18 ,is there openJRE instead of Oracles JRE ? > > What Packages would I download ? > LONG ANSWER: OpenJDK7 is the reference implementation of JDK7 Hence, Oracle programmers work on OpenJDK 7 (and 8, and 9...). The web browser plug-in was one

Re: OpenJRE or Oracle Jre

2013-05-03 Thread poma
On 04.05.2013 00:41, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 04.05.2013 00:26, schrieb poma:> On 04.05.2013 00:01, Jim wrote: >>> Fedora 18 ,is there openJRE instead of Oracles JRE ? >>> >>> What Packages would I download ? >> >> alternatives --config java ;) > > is not a package isn't it? > please do not

Re: Extraordinary delay in accessing web-site

2013-05-03 Thread Fred Roller
On 05/03/2013 01:51 PM, poma wrote: On 03.05.2013 19:19, poma wrote: On 03.05.2013 18:37, poma wrote: Someone just went by car from the parking lot. :) - CentOS release 5.9 (Final) - Mozilla Firefox 17.0.5 You are right, Fedora 18/Firefox 20: Transferring data from 79.19.132.143… - endlessly,

Re: OpenJRE or Oracle Jre

2013-05-03 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 05/03/2013 06:26 PM, poma wrote: > On 04.05.2013 00:01, Jim wrote: >> Fedora 18 ,is there openJRE instead of Oracles JRE ? >> >> What Packages would I download ? > > alternatives --config java ;) This lets hin pick from packages already installed on his system. yum whatprovides jre will tell

Re: Expectation of privacy

2013-05-03 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 05/03/2013 06:49 PM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 03 May 2013, Ralf Corsepius sent: Well, people who are replying to PM on lists, to me qualify as "not showing any respect to privacy" and them not being able to destinguish between "confidential" and "public" correspondence. That said, t

RE: Re: Errors on Boot-Up (SOLVED)

2013-05-03 Thread Bill Kuns
Dear Mr. Stevens: Thanks for your reply. I installed two WD 1TB Hard Drives when I put my new computer together. I am having difficulty getting Fedora to recognize and access both of them. (See emails "Two HDs"). Both of these HDs are new. I removed the second HD and those errors no longer occu

Re: OpenJRE or Oracle Jre

2013-05-03 Thread poma
On 04.05.2013 04:25, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > On 05/03/2013 06:26 PM, poma wrote: >> On 04.05.2013 00:01, Jim wrote: >>> Fedora 18 ,is there openJRE instead of Oracles JRE ? >>> >>> What Packages would I download ? >> >> alternatives --config java ;) > > This lets hin pick from packages already

Re: Extraordinary delay in accessing web-site

2013-05-03 Thread poma
On 04.05.2013 03:28, Fred Roller wrote: > +1 > cable link w. wireless connection to Linksys > > Firefox 20 > Fedora 18 3.8.9-200.fc18.x86_64 > ...zilch > > mplayer = video with poma's command. Chromium 25.0.1364.172 Built from source for Fedora release 18 (Spherical Cow)[1]PASS :) poma