Re: Is gnome-disks really incapable of dealing with a blank drive?

2013-03-15 Thread Junk
On 14 Mar 2013, at 23:22, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 08:52:37 -0500 > Michael Cronenworth wrote: > >> At the top right of the program (to the right of your hard drive name) >> there is a button with two gears. Click on "Format Disk..." to partition. > > By golly that works (since

Re: Is gnome-disks really incapable of dealing with a blank drive?

2013-03-15 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 07:22:47PM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > By golly that works (since I hadn't put anything on the disk yet, > I wiped it so I could try again). It is unfortunate that it uses > the same gear icon as the one below the picture in the middle of the > screen yet does complete diffe

Has my fedora 18 installation been hacked?

2013-03-15 Thread Georgios Petasis
Hi all, I have a small server that I have recently upgraded to fedora 18. After a while, I got notified by the provider that their firewall catches thousands of requests, with the following error message: *Source IP*: ellogon-SKEL *Source Port*: 35442 *Destination IP*: 216.82.176.7 *Destinati

Re: Has my fedora 18 installation been hacked?

2013-03-15 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/15/13 17:05, Georgios Petasis wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a small server that I have recently upgraded to fedora 18. After a > while, I got notified by > the provider that their firewall catches thousands of requests, with the > following error message: > > *Source IP*: ellogon-SKEL > *Sour

Re: Has my fedora 18 installation been hacked?

2013-03-15 Thread Georgios Petasis
Στις 15/3/2013 11:46 πμ, ο/η Ed Greshko έγραψε: On 03/15/13 17:05, Georgios Petasis wrote: Hi all, I have a small server that I have recently upgraded to fedora 18. After a while, I got notified by the provider that their firewall catches thousands of requests, with the following error messag

Re: Has my fedora 18 installation been hacked?

2013-03-15 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/15/13 17:46, Ed Greshko wrote: > Is the destination IP address a single IP address or are there others. > > Is your system running a DNS server? If you are running one, is it supposed > to be servicing requests from the Internet? If it is supposed to be taking > requests from the Internet

Re: Reliable way to determine native packaging system

2013-03-15 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 03/14/2013 06:27 PM, Theodore Papadopoulo wrote: Interesting, I'll have a look. But the downside you mention is exactly the one I want to avoid. Having to handle a mapping between distributions and packaging systems. See the other message I just posted... I think that's the crux of this prob

Re: Has my fedora 18 installation been hacked?

2013-03-15 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/15/13 17:55, Georgios Petasis wrote: > No, it is always the same IP. I don't know if a DNS server is running. How > can I check this? > > (There used to be a system-config-services, but I don't know if it exists > anymore, with this new "sytstemctl" stuff) Well, if you didn't install and

Re: Has my fedora 18 installation been hacked?

2013-03-15 Thread Georgios Petasis
Στις 15/3/2013 11:57 πμ, ο/η Ed Greshko έγραψε: On 03/15/13 17:46, Ed Greshko wrote: Is the destination IP address a single IP address or are there others. Is your system running a DNS server? If you are running one, is it supposed to be servicing requests from the Internet? If it is suppose

Re: Has my fedora 18 installation been hacked?

2013-03-15 Thread agraham
First, whois 216.82.176.7 216.82.176.7 belongs to a bank in the US https://www.53.com/ I don't know if it's a real bank or what? $ whois 216.82.176.7 The last part of your ISPs message is interesting because it says: "packet length 1400 bytes exceeds configured limit of 512 bytes" So somethin

NFS Server share /var/cache/yum?

2013-03-15 Thread Frank Murphy
Trying to replace an NAS with a PC. Figured I'd check before creating Having looked at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Administration_Guide_Draft/NFS?rd=Docs/Drafts/AGBeta/NFS How can I share on the NFS server /var/cache/yum. so it will be available as a local(nfs) cache to all fedora boxes\vm'

Re: NFS Server share /var/cache/yum?

2013-03-15 Thread agraham
On 03/15/2013 10:36 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: Trying to replace an NAS with a PC. Figured I'd check before creating Having looked at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Administration_Guide_Draft/NFS?rd=Docs/Drafts/AGBeta/NFS How can I share on the NFS server /var/cache/yum. so it will be available a

DNS aund randomized source ports

2013-03-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.03.2013 10:57, schrieb Ed Greshko: > On 03/15/13 17:46, Ed Greshko wrote: >> Is the destination IP address a single IP address or are there others. >> >> Is your system running a DNS server? If you are running one, is it supposed >> to be servicing requests from the Internet? If it is sup

Re: Has my fedora 18 installation been hacked?

2013-03-15 Thread Georgios Petasis
I suspect that it is a joomla 1.5.26 exploit. I have found two php files in the tmp folder of one web site, and POSTs to them in the apache access log file. (I know this is an old version of joomla, and I have made the mistake to make the folders tmp, cache & log writtable by the apache in selin

Re: Has my fedora 18 installation been hacked?

2013-03-15 Thread agraham
On 03/15/2013 11:16 AM, Georgios Petasis wrote: I suspect that it is a joomla 1.5.26 exploit. I have found two php files in the tmp folder of one web site, and POSTs to them in the apache access log file. (I know this is an old version of joomla, and I have made the mistake to make the folders tm

Re: DNS aund randomized source ports

2013-03-15 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/15/13 19:15, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 15.03.2013 10:57, schrieb Ed Greshko: >> On 03/15/13 17:46, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> Is the destination IP address a single IP address or are there others. >>> >>> Is your system running a DNS server? If you are running one, is it >>> supposed to be servi

Re: Has my fedora 18 installation been hacked?

2013-03-15 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:53:12 +, agraham wrote: > On 03/15/2013 11:16 AM, Georgios Petasis wrote: > > I suspect that it is a joomla 1.5.26 exploit. I have found two php files > > in the tmp folder of one web site, > > and POSTs to them in the apache access log file. > > (I know this is an old v

Re: Has my fedora 18 installation been hacked?

2013-03-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.03.2013 12:16, schrieb Georgios Petasis: > I suspect that it is a joomla 1.5.26 exploit. I have found two php files in > the tmp folder of one web site, > and POSTs to them in the apache access log file. > I know this is an old version of joomla this is the main problem what your machine

Re: Has my fedora 18 installation been hacked?

2013-03-15 Thread Georgios Petasis
Dear Reindl, I am sorry if I gave a wrong impression, but I was reffering to the tmp, cache and tmp folders inside the joomla installation, not the OS or apache ones. The whole apache document root is owned by root and has a read-only selinux policy (apache cannot write anything in there). The

Re: Has my fedora 18 installation been hacked?

2013-03-15 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
W dniu 15.03.2013 11:09, Georgios Petasis pisze: Στις 15/3/2013 11:57 πμ, ο/η Ed Greshko έγραψε: On 03/15/13 17:46, Ed Greshko wrote: Is the destination IP address a single IP address or are there others. Is your system running a DNS server? If you are running one, is it supposed to be servi

Re: Has my fedora 18 installation been hacked?

2013-03-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.03.2013 13:56, schrieb Georgios Petasis: > Dear Reindl, > > I am sorry if I gave a wrong impression, but I was reffering to the tmp, > cache and tmp folders inside the joomla installation, not the OS or apache > ones i am too in your case this would even not had happend if it would hav

Re: Has my fedora 18 installation been hacked?

2013-03-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.03.2013 14:03, schrieb Mateusz Marzantowicz: > W dniu 15.03.2013 11:09, Georgios Petasis pisze: >> Στις 15/3/2013 11:57 πμ, ο/η Ed Greshko έγραψε: >>> On 03/15/13 17:46, Ed Greshko wrote: Is the destination IP address a single IP address or are there others. Is your system ru

F17 gnome3 coloration

2013-03-15 Thread Beartooth
I ran into troubles with xfce, and decided to try gnome3 again. This time I think I could manage it, maybe, if only the color combinations weren't so wrong. Maybe young eyes can see white text on gun metal gray menus, but my old eyes can't. Where do I change the likes of that? Will it

Re: Has my fedora 18 installation been hacked?

2013-03-15 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/15/2013 09:18 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 15.03.2013 13:56, schrieb Georgios Petasis: >> Dear Reindl, >> >> I am sorry if I gave a wrong impression, but I was reffering to the tmp, >> cache and tmp folders inside the joomla installatio

Re: F18 on Dell xps13

2013-03-15 Thread Richard Vickery
On Mar 14, 2013 10:58 PM, "dave peters" wrote: > > Could anyone advise me if there are any serious problems with this hardware and F18 ? > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/u

Re: F18 on Dell xps13

2013-03-15 Thread Richard Vickery
On Mar 15, 2013 7:41 AM, "Richard Vickery" wrote: > > > On Mar 14, 2013 10:58 PM, "dave peters" wrote: > > > > Could anyone advise me if there are any serious problems with this hardware and F18 ? > > > > -- > > users mailing list > > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > To unsubscribe or change sub

Re: Has my fedora 18 installation been hacked?

2013-03-15 Thread Richard Vickery
On Mar 15, 2013 2:05 AM, "Georgios Petasis" wrote: > > Hi all, > > I have a small server that I have recently upgraded to fedora 18. After a while, I got notified by > the provider that their firewall catches thousands of requests, with the following error message: > > Source IP: ellogon-SKEL > So

Re: Has my fedora 18 installation been hacked?

2013-03-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.03.2013 16:25, schrieb Richard Vickery: >> Is there anything else to do, than re-installing the machine? >> >> (Unfortunately, due to the huge load it creates to their firewall, they >> remove the network cord from the server, > so I have a few hours to debug this...) >> >> George >> >> --

F17->F18: upgrade OpenLDAP database?

2013-03-15 Thread Braden McDaniel
After upgrading from F17 to F18, I get this message when trying to start slapd: Mar 15 11:24:13 knock.endoframe.net slapd[8210]: hdb_db_open: database "dc=endoframe,dc=net" cannot be opened, err -30969. Restore from backup! Mar 15 11:24:13 knock.endoframe.net slapd[8210]: bdb(dc=endoframe,d

Re: F18 on Dell xps13

2013-03-15 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 03/14/2013 10:58 PM, dave peters wrote: Could anyone advise me if there are any serious problems with this hardware and F18 ? I received an XPS 13 yesterday! So far, I haven't seen any problems from it. Intel's video is quite standard, and works as expected. WiFi is working. I've set up

Re: F17->F18: upgrade OpenLDAP database?

2013-03-15 Thread Brian Millett
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:35:02 -0400 Braden McDaniel wrote: > After upgrading from F17 to F18, I get this message when trying to > start slapd: > > Mar 15 11:24:13 knock.endoframe.net slapd[8210]: hdb_db_open: database > "dc=endoframe,dc=net" cannot be opened, err -30969. Restore from backup!

Strange file appearing in HOME

2013-03-15 Thread Frank McCormick
I have noticed lately on my F18 installation that this file: C:\nppdf32Log\debuglog.txt keeps popping up in my HOME. Anybody know the explanation or how to stop it ? Thanks -- --Cheers-- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http

Re: Strange file appearing in HOME

2013-03-15 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 03/15/2013 04:28 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: I have noticed lately on my F18 installation that this file: C:\nppdf32Log\debuglog.txt Ask Ubuntu :) http://askubuntu.com/questions/144408/what-is-the-file-c-nppdf32log-debuglog-txt keeps popping up in my HOME. Anybody know the explanation or

Re: Strange file appearing in HOME

2013-03-15 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:28:55 -0400 Frank McCormick wrote: > I have noticed lately on my F18 installation that this file: > > C:\nppdf32Log\debuglog.txt > Firefox plugin for pdf Adobe bug http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=289178 -- Regards, Frank http//www.frankly3d.com -- users

Re: Has my fedora 18 installation been hacked?

2013-03-15 Thread Greg Woods
On Fri, 2013-03-15 at 08:25 -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: > > It is not really my intent to be rude, but each of us "hack" out own > systems and the kernel all the time. Unfortunately, this battle over the word "hack" and "hacker" has already been fought and lost. The media, and just about every

Re: Strange file appearing in HOME

2013-03-15 Thread Frank McCormick
On 03/15/2013 12:32 PM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: On 03/15/2013 04:28 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: I have noticed lately on my F18 installation that this file: C:\nppdf32Log\debuglog.txt Ask Ubuntu :) http://askubuntu.com/questions/144408/what-is-the-file-c-nppdf32log-debuglog-txt keeps poppi

Re: Creating an rpm from scratch

2013-03-15 Thread Bill Davidsen
Bill Davidsen wrote: I am happy to say the last rpm I had to create was back during 2.5 development testing days. Now I would find it convenient to roll another, and I'm hoping there's by now a better tool to help create an rpm from scratch, something more intuitive than the man page in one windo

Re: Creating an rpm from scratch

2013-03-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.03.2013 17:52, schrieb Bill Davidsen: > Bill Davidsen wrote: >> I am happy to say the last rpm I had to create was back during 2.5 >> development >> testing days. Now I would find it convenient to roll another, and I'm hoping >> there's by now a better tool to help create an rpm from scrat

Re: F18 on Dell xps13

2013-03-15 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 03/15/2013 09:08 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote: I haven't tried to use the DisplayPort output or BlueTooth, but the latter is at least correctly detected on boot. I've learned that btusb needs to be removed on suspend. The following script will accomplish that. /usr/lib/systemd/system-sleep/b

Re: F17->F18: upgrade OpenLDAP database?

2013-03-15 Thread Braden McDaniel
Brian Millett gmail.com> writes: [snip] > what you want to do is to 'recover' the db, so in /var/lib/ldap, do > > db_recover > > then make sure that all files are owned ldap:ldap Hm... When I do that, I get: # db_recover db_recover: BDB1538 Program version 5.3 doesn't match environment

Performance of F17 and F18

2013-03-15 Thread Gary Stainburn
I have been using Red Hat / Fedora ever since getting RH3.2 on floppy disk. Both the distributions and the hardware have grown together and at no point have I evern seen an upgrade dramatically affect the performance of a PC. That is, not until F17. I have it installed on 2 laptops, 2 servres a

Re: usbview

2013-03-15 Thread Bill Davidsen
Joachim Backes wrote: On 03/13/2013 03:30 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Verify that you have USB compiled into your kernel The problem arises only if you are running usbview as normal user! "sudo usbview" does what you expect! Why does usbview require root, when "lsusb -v" seems to provide the sam

Re: Strange file appearing in HOME

2013-03-15 Thread Doug
On 03/15/2013 12:51 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: On 03/15/2013 12:32 PM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: On 03/15/2013 04:28 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: I have noticed lately on my F18 installation that this file: C:\nppdf32Log\debuglog.txt Ask Ubuntu :) http://askubuntu.com/questions/144408/what-is-the

Re: Reliable way to determine native packaging system

2013-03-15 Thread Theodore Papadopoulo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/14/2013 09:03 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Theodore Papadopoulo wrote: > > Is there a place where this can be escalated and discussed ? > > > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/distribution

[389-users] Hiring for project

2013-03-15 Thread Mike
Hello, I'd like to hire someone to remotely setup and configure 389 directory server running in vm's in my xen environment. I'm looking for a HA configuration involving multimaster replication to serve in an ISP environment, and secondly I am also wanting to import an existing ldap with it's

Re: Has my fedora 18 installation been hacked?

2013-03-15 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/15/2013 02:05 AM, Georgios Petasis wrote: *Source IP*: ellogon-SKEL *Source Port*: 35442 *Destination IP*: 216.82.176.7 *Destination Port*: 53 *Description*: Dropped UDP DNS request from dmz:ellogon-SKEL/35442 to outside:216.82.176.7/53; packet length 1400 bytes exceeds configured limit of

Re: Reliable way to determine native packaging system

2013-03-15 Thread Theodore Papadopoulo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/14/2013 11:33 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > On 14.03.2013 19:25, Theodore Papadopoulo wrote: >> >> Yes I imagined that detecting /var/lib/rpm was one way to deal >> with the problem (but not /etc/*-release as this is exactly what >> I want t

Re: F17->F18: upgrade OpenLDAP database?

2013-03-15 Thread Brian Millett
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:14:40 + (UTC) Braden McDaniel wrote: > Brian Millett gmail.com> writes: > > [snip] > > > what you want to do is to 'recover' the db, so in /var/lib/ldap, do > > > > db_recover > > > > then make sure that all files are owned ldap:ldap > > Hm... When I do that, I g

Re: Performance of F17 and F18

2013-03-15 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/15/2013 06:24 PM, Gary Stainburn wrote: I have been using Red Hat / Fedora ever since getting RH3.2 on floppy disk. Both the distributions and the hardware have grown together and at no point have I evern seen an upgrade dramatically affect the performance of a PC. That is, not until F17.

Re: F17 gnome3 coloration

2013-03-15 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:31:28 + (UTC) Beartooth wrote: > Where do I change the likes of > that? Will it *stay* changed? If you can find a tool that will let you pick different themes, you could see if some other theme works better. If you can't find a theme editor, you can always drop into dc

: Re: F18 on Dell xps13

2013-03-15 Thread dave peters
;From: Gordon Messmer ;I received an XPS 13 yesterday! ;So far, I haven't seen any problems from it. Intel's video is quite standard, and works as expected. WiFi is working. I've set up a ;few VMs under Linux KVM with virt-manager. Media keys all work properly, as does the OSD. The touchpad

Re: F17->F18: upgrade OpenLDAP database?

2013-03-15 Thread Braden McDaniel
Quoting Brian Millett : On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:14:40 + (UTC) Braden McDaniel wrote: Brian Millett gmail.com> writes: [snip] > what you want to do is to 'recover' the db, so in /var/lib/ldap, do > > db_recover > > then make sure that all files are owned ldap:ldap Hm... When I do that,

Re: F17->F18: upgrade OpenLDAP database?

2013-03-15 Thread Brian Millett
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:35:10 -0400 Braden McDaniel wrote: > root root 10485760 Mar 15 15:20 log.02 Fix this and all other files to be ldap:ldap Looks promising! -- Brian Millett "How does it know?" 'The same reason our scanner indicated one alien life form when Kosh wasn't around.

Re: F17->F18: upgrade OpenLDAP database?

2013-03-15 Thread Braden McDaniel
On Mar 15, 2013, at 3:40 PM, Brian Millett wrote: > On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:35:10 -0400 > Braden McDaniel wrote: > >> root root 10485760 Mar 15 15:20 log.02 > > Fix this and all other files to be ldap:ldap Success! That file was owned by root the first time I saw it; that and the fact

Re: Has my fedora 18 installation been hacked?

2013-03-15 Thread Richard Vickery
On Mar 15, 2013 9:39 AM, "Greg Woods" wrote: > > On Fri, 2013-03-15 at 08:25 -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: > > > > It is not really my intent to be rude, but each of us "hack" out own > > systems and the kernel all the time. > > Unfortunately, this battle over the word "hack" and "hacker" has alr

Re: Reliable way to determine native packaging system

2013-03-15 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 16:07:21 +0100 Theodore Papadopoulo wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I'm trying to find a standard way of finding the native > packaging system of a linux distribution. I'm not sure at all that > testing the presence of {rpm/yum}|{apt-get} is

XFce configuration

2013-03-15 Thread Max Pyziur
Greetings, Two non-fatal/small issues relating to XFce. 1 - How do you configure a shortcut key to bring up the Applications Menu? I found some online help, but that didn't work. 2 - On boot-up, after the scrolling of service messages, and before the appearance of the login screen, there was

Multi-battery issue

2013-03-15 Thread Gordon Messmer
I have a Thinkpad T430S with two batteries: primary + ultra-bay. The laptop will run on one battery only until it is depleted, at which point the other battery would normally be used, as I understand it. However, when the battery in use nears 0%, the Fedora system will warn the user that the b

RE: "Hacker" vs "Cracker" et al.

2013-03-15 Thread McCrina, Nathan
From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Richard Vickery [richard.vicker...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 4:30 PM To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: Re: Has my fedora 18 instal

RE: "Hacker" vs "Cracker" et al.

2013-03-15 Thread McCrina, Nathan
From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Richard Vickery [richard.vicker...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 4:30 PM To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: Re: Has my fedora 18 instal

Re: Creating an rpm from scratch

2013-03-15 Thread Bill Davidsen
Reindl Harald wrote: Am 15.03.2013 17:52, schrieb Bill Davidsen: Bill Davidsen wrote: I am happy to say the last rpm I had to create was back during 2.5 development testing days. Now I would find it convenient to roll another, and I'm hoping there's by now a better tool to help create an rpm

RE: "Hacker" vs "Cracker" et al.

2013-03-15 Thread Richard Vickery
On Mar 15, 2013 2:36 PM, "McCrina, Nathan" wrote: > > > > From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [ users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Richard Vickery [ richard.vicker...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 4:30 PM > To: Community

Re: Creating an rpm from scratch

2013-03-15 Thread Doug
On 03/15/2013 06:02 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Reindl Harald wrote: Am 15.03.2013 17:52, schrieb Bill Davidsen: Bill Davidsen wrote: I am happy to say the last rpm I had to create was back during 2.5 development testing days. Now I would find it convenient to roll another, and I'm hoping ther

OT: Re: "Hacker" vs "Cracker" et al.

2013-03-15 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:21:07 -0700 Richard Vickery wrote: > Does this mean that you just let them adulterate the term? You would have to re-write current popular culture. Language and it's use change, by it's very usage. -- Regards, Frank http//www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@li

Re: OT: Re: "Hacker" vs "Cracker" et al.

2013-03-15 Thread Doug
On 03/15/2013 06:25 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:21:07 -0700 Richard Vickery wrote: Does this mean that you just let them adulterate the term? You would have to re-write current popular culture. Language and it's use change, by it's very usage. Language is fickle. Gay used

Re: OT: Re: "Hacker" vs "Cracker" et al.

2013-03-15 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/15/2013 03:47 PM, Doug wrote: Language is fickle. And, kill once meant "murder," which is why David slew Goliath and didn't kill him. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users

Re: OT: Re: "Hacker" vs "Cracker" et al.

2013-03-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2013-03-15 at 18:47 -0400, Doug wrote: > On 03/15/2013 06:25 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > > On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:21:07 -0700 > > Richard Vickery wrote: > > > >> Does this mean that you just let them adulterate the term? > > You would have to re-write current popular culture. > > Language an

F-18 CDROM problem -

2013-03-15 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
I installed an "optical drive" in this F-18/64 XFCE computer and it is apparently recognized by several applications however I don't see an icon come up on the desktop when I put a cdrom in the drive. The same disk works as expected in a similar F-18 computer. When I put the disk in the driv

Re: OT: Re: "Hacker" vs "Cracker" et al.

2013-03-15 Thread Richard Vickery
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2013-03-15 at 18:47 -0400, Doug wrote: > > On 03/15/2013 06:25 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > > > On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:21:07 -0700 > > > Richard Vickery wrote: > > > > > >> Does this mean that you just let them adulterate the term

Re: OT: Re: "Hacker" vs "Cracker" et al.

2013-03-15 Thread Doug
On 03/15/2013 07:03 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2013-03-15 at 18:47 -0400, Doug wrote: /snip/ So whether you like it or not, hack usually connotes unlawful intrusion on a computer. Ce la vie! I think you mean "C'est la vie", ... /snip poc Ya got me! French is not my strong sui

Re: OT: Re: "Hacker" vs "Cracker" et al.

2013-03-15 Thread Roger
I think you mean "C'est la vie", ... Hacked = Say Love eee -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question

Re: Creating an rpm from scratch

2013-03-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.03.2013 23:02, schrieb Bill Davidsen: > Reindl Harald wrote: >>> Sounds like NO, there has been progress in documentation since 2.5 days, >>> but sounds like it all has to be created >>> by hand in terms of scripts, spec files, etc. Thanks, but if it hasn't >>> gotten less time consuming

Gnome 3 in fallback mode for no apparent reason

2013-03-15 Thread Sanne Grinovero
Hi all, this morning when turning on my workstation (Fedora 18, 64 bit) it started Gnome 3 in fallback mode. I had shut it down the evening before while running in "full" mode and not made any change to the system: nor (known) configuration changes nor updates installed. Since that's pretty much u

Re: Gnome 3 in fallback mode for no apparent reason

2013-03-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.03.2013 02:36, schrieb Sanne Grinovero: > The only common element I see in the two systems is that both have an > NVidia video card and I'm forced to use the proprietary drivers > because of other issues, > but this worked pretty well so far. and you are sure there was no kernel-update whi

Re: Alacarte on F-18/64 XFCE -

2013-03-15 Thread Lailah
El jue, 14-03-2013 a las 11:47 -0700, Joe Zeff escribió: > On 03/14/2013 11:13 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > > > > Is there a problem with "alacarte" or is it something I am doing wrong? > > I have three Fedora-18/64 XFCE computers all producing the same errors: > > Check bugzil