Re: F-18 display setting problem -

2013-03-02 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 16:49:56 -0500 "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote: > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Videocard0" > Driver "ati" > > I wonder if the ati driver is appropriate. The processor is an AMD A8 > 3850 and the GPU is apparently integral to it.

Re: F-18 display setting problem -

2013-03-02 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 18:41:41 -0500 David wrote: > > You could use "system-config-display" to do this. But Fedora dropped > it several releases ago. Did you ever get well informed about *why* it was dropped? There was a reason for that. > And now is when you will get message after message choc

Re: F-18 display setting problem -

2013-03-02 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 02 March 2013, Marko Vojinovic sent: > or with a faulty VGA cable Or, just so nobody is left in the lurch, an apparently not faulty brand new cable, that simply hasn't got any wiring between the two pins that carry the EDID signals. Some cheap cables only bother wire up th

Re: Multiboot question

2013-03-02 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 01 March 2013, Craig White sent: > I have had an occasion (granted just one) where I had a really > large (4TB) LVM and added more drives to the system and created a new > 'PV' but I joined them together as a single 'logical' volume. I > believe that is what you are referring

Re: F-18 display setting problem -

2013-03-02 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 21:18:21 +1030 Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 02 March 2013, Marko Vojinovic sent: > > or with a faulty VGA cable > > Or, just so nobody is left in the lurch, an apparently not faulty > brand new cable, that simply hasn't got any wiring between the two > pins that carry

Re: F-18 display setting problem -

2013-03-02 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 03/02/2013 12:36 AM, poma wrote: ls -l /sys/class/drm/ poma [bobg@box10 ~]$ ls -l /sys/class/drm/ total 0 lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root0 Mar 2 2013 card0 -> ../../devices/pci:00/:00:01.0/drm/card0 lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root0 Mar 2 2013 card0-HDMI-A-1 -> ../../devices/pci:00/

Re: copy full system from old disk to a new one

2013-03-02 Thread Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu
On Wed, 2013-02-20 at 10:52 +, Gordan Bobic wrote: > 3x3TB RAID5 is _brave_, IMO. But hey, it's your data. :) So, are you saying there should be more drives in the array, or should he use a different RAID level altogether? Ranbir -- Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu Linux 3.7.9-101.fc17.x86_64 x86_64 GN

Re: Check Updates option does no work for me in Software application

2013-03-02 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2013-03-01 at 08:57 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: > The Check Updates option in the Software application does not work for > me. It starts as expected reporting the number of updates. But it never > reaches the install step and just keeps running without end. > > Does this work for other peo

Re: Check Updates option does no work for me in Software application

2013-03-02 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 02.03.2013 15:27, schrieb Aaron Konstam: > On Fri, 2013-03-01 at 08:57 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: >> The Check Updates option in the Software application does not work for >> me. It starts as expected reporting the number of updates. But it never >> reaches the install step and just keeps run

Re: F-18 display setting problem -

2013-03-02 Thread poma
On 03/02/13 13:32, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > On 03/02/2013 12:36 AM, poma wrote: >> ls -l /sys/class/drm/ >> >> poma > [bobg@box10 ~]$ ls -l /sys/class/drm/ > total 0 > lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root0 Mar 2 2013 card0 -> > ../../devices/pci:00/:00:01.0/drm/card0 > lrwxrwxrwx

Re: Check Updates option does no work for me in Software application

2013-03-02 Thread Temlakos
On 03/02/2013 09:30 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 02.03.2013 15:27, schrieb Aaron Konstam: On Fri, 2013-03-01 at 08:57 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: The Check Updates option in the Software application does not work for me. It starts as expected reporting the number of updates. But it never reache

Re: Check Updates option does no work for me in Software application

2013-03-02 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 02.03.2013 15:52, schrieb Temlakos: > The best part of a GUI: when you want to know what packages are available, > you don't lose the first listing just > because it has scrolled above your command-line prompt (xterm, Konsole, etc.) > window jokingly? "Konsole" knows scrolling and even sett

Re: Preupgrade fc15->fc16

2013-03-02 Thread Tod Thomas
On 02/20/2013 12:40 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 20.02.2013 18:35, schrieb Tod Thomas: I just completed upgrading a FC14 virtual machine running under virtual box and it went pretty well. Now I am trying to do the same upgrade only on a FC15 standalone machine to FC16. It looks like it can't

rsyslogd and services in general

2013-03-02 Thread Tod Thomas
Ok, old school here, Saturday morning hacking. What is the new method for managing system services? Could someone point me to some good documentation? The reason I ask is nothing is being written to /var/log/messages and /etc/init.d/ doesn't seem to be a viable option anymore. I tried: /sbin

compile error: #error "Only can be included directly."

2013-03-02 Thread Ranjan Maitra
So, I have been trying to get sylfilter to compile and execute (since I could not find a rpm in the fedora 18 repos). The source code is available at: http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/sylfilter/ Anyway, I configure in the following way: ./configure --with-libsylph=builtin --enable-sqlite=yes Then I

Re: F-18 display setting problem -

2013-03-02 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 03/02/2013 04:24 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: Well, first of all, you probably want to put "radeon" driver up there instead of "ati". Did that ... Second, the data about your PCI hardware, including the graphics card, is displayed by "lspci -v", which should confirm that you have an ATI Radeo

Re: compile error: #error "Only can be included directly."

2013-03-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 2 Mar 2013 11:56:37 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > So, I have been trying to get sylfilter to compile and execute (since I > could not find a rpm in the fedora 18 repos). > > The source code is available at: > > http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/sylfilter/ > > > Anyway, I configure in the follo

Re: F-18 display setting problem -

2013-03-02 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 03/02/2013 04:24 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: If it was a clean install, you should send us the content of /var/log/Xorg.0.log file (it may be large, maybe put it in a pastebin or something). This file can tell all the details about what is going wrong with automatic resolution detection and EDI

Re: SOLVED: sylfilter compile error: #error "Only can be included directly."

2013-03-02 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Thanks! I was able to get it to "work" (i.e. compile, etc) with the following: ./configure --with-libsylph=sylpheed --with-package=sylpheed --enable-sqlite=yes --includedir=/usr/include/sylpheed make make install I don't know how convenient it would be to make this into an rpm, but I though

Re: F-18 display setting problem -

2013-03-02 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 03/02/2013 01:40 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 03/02/2013 04:24 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: If it was a clean install, you should send us the content of /var/log/Xorg.0.log file (it may be large, maybe put it in a pastebin or something). This file can tell all the details abo

Re: rsyslogd and services in general

2013-03-02 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 02.03.2013 16:22, Tod Thomas wrote: > Ok, old school here, Saturday morning hacking. What is the new method > for managing system services? Could someone point me to some good > documentation? The reason I ask is nothing is being written to > /var/log/messages and /etc/init.d/ doesn't seem to be

Re: F-18 display setting problem -

2013-03-02 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 03/01/2013 12:48 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: In a new Fedora-18/64 bit install in a new computer I am unable to set the resolution above 1024x768 at 60HZ and would like to set it higher. Just for grins, have you tried without any conf file at all? I don't have one, and X a

Re: F-18 display setting problem -

2013-03-02 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 03/02/2013 03:49 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: On 03/01/2013 12:48 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: In a new Fedora-18/64 bit install in a new computer I am unable to set the resolution above 1024x768 at 60HZ and would like to set it higher. Just for grins, have you tried without a

installation issue 1

2013-03-02 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, Thinking about the isntallation issues, I have 2 concerns: First one. What should be the size left over the 1st partition of the disk for the MBR? I may not have enough size. Is it documented? Thank. -- == Patrick DUPRÉ

Re: installation issue 1

2013-03-02 Thread Fred Smith
On Sat, Mar 02, 2013 at 10:20:21PM +0100, Patrick Dupre wrote: > Hello, > > Thinking about the isntallation issues, I have 2 concerns: > First one. > What should be the size left over the 1st partition of the disk for > the MBR? I may not have enough size. > Is it documented? MBR is pre-reserved

Re: installation issue 1

2013-03-02 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 02.03.2013 22:20, schrieb Patrick Dupre: > Thinking about the isntallation issues, I have 2 concerns: > First one. > What should be the size left over the 1st partition of the disk for > the MBR? I may not have enough size. > Is it documented? no installer since years starts with the fist par

installation issue 2

2013-03-02 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, I was thinking in making a bootable USB key for the installation. I read: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_Live_USB There is instruction about creating partitions and install the .iso on one of them and make it bootable. The example is with a single partition: su -c "liv

Re: installation issue 1

2013-03-02 Thread Patrick Dupre
Quoting sam, 02 mar 2013 Fred Smith : On Sat, Mar 02, 2013 at 10:20:21PM +0100, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, Thinking about the isntallation issues, I have 2 concerns: First one. What should be the size left over the 1st partition of the disk for the MBR? I may not have enough size. Is it docu

Re: installation issue 1

2013-03-02 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 02.03.2013 22:57, schrieb Patrick Dupre: > If there is not enough room in front of the first partition, the MBR is not > going to > fit. I already had this glitch this has NOTHING to to with the MBR it is GRUB2 which is bloated like a OS itself > For example: > fdisk -l /dev/sda > /dev/sda1

Re: installation issue 1

2013-03-02 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/02/2013 01:57 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: fdisk -l /dev/sda /dev/sda14096 6008309 3002107 82 Linux swap / Solaris gives enough room for the MBR, but fdisk -l /dev/sdb /dev/sdb1 6324981074124905067 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT probably does not give me enoug

Re: installation issue 1

2013-03-02 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 02.03.2013 23:22, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 03/02/2013 01:57 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: >> fdisk -l /dev/sda >> /dev/sda14096 6008309 3002107 82 Linux swap / >> Solaris >> gives enough room for the MBR, but >> >> fdisk -l /dev/sdb >> /dev/sdb1 63249810741

Re: rsyslogd and services in general

2013-03-02 Thread G.Wolfe Woodbury
On 03/02/2013 10:22 AM, Tod Thomas wrote: > Ok, old school here, Saturday morning hacking. What is the new method > for managing system services? Could someone point me to some good > documentation? The reason I ask is nothing is being written to > /var/log/messages and /etc/init.d/ doesn't seem to

Re: rsyslogd and services in general

2013-03-02 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/02/2013 02:34 PM, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: systemd provides a new command for some startup logging: journalctl Just out of curiosity, I checked to see if that's active: [root@khorlia joe]# systemctl status journalctl.service journalctl.service Loaded: error (Reason: No such file

Re: installation issue 1

2013-03-02 Thread Patrick Dupre
Quoting sam, 02 mar 2013 Reindl Harald : Am 02.03.2013 23:22, schrieb Joe Zeff: On 03/02/2013 01:57 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: fdisk -l /dev/sda /dev/sda14096 6008309 3002107 82 Linux swap / Solaris gives enough room for the MBR, but fdisk -l /dev/sdb /dev/sdb1

Re: SOLVED: sylfilter compile error: #error "Only can be included directly."

2013-03-02 Thread poma
On 03/02/13 20:22, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > > Thanks! > > I was able to get it to "work" (i.e. compile, etc) with the following: > > ./configure --with-libsylph=sylpheed --with-package=sylpheed > --enable-sqlite=yes --includedir=/usr/include/sylpheed > > make > > make install > > I don't kn

Re: rsyslogd and services in general

2013-03-02 Thread Garry T. Williams
On 3-2-13 10:22:49 Tod Thomas wrote: > Ok, old school here, Saturday morning hacking. What is the new method > for managing system services? That would be systemctl(1). See man systemctl. > Could someone point me to some good > documentation? http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/syste

USB key

2013-03-02 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, What does make that when a user pluggin a usb key, it is automatically mounted with his own rights while there is noting in the fstab? How can I reproduce it manually? Thank. -- == Patrick DUPRÉ

Re: rsyslogd and services in general

2013-03-02 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/03/13 06:40, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/02/2013 02:34 PM, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: >> systemd provides a new command for some startup logging: journalctl > > Just out of curiosity, I checked to see if that's active: > > [root@khorlia joe]# systemctl status journalctl.service > journalctl.service

Re: rsyslogd and services in general

2013-03-02 Thread Tod Thomas
On 03/02/2013 05:40 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/02/2013 02:34 PM, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: systemd provides a new command for some startup logging: journalctl Just out of curiosity, I checked to see if that's active: [root@khorlia joe]# systemctl status journalctl.service journalctl.service

Re: rsyslogd and services in general

2013-03-02 Thread Garry T. Williams
On 3-2-13 18:08:38 I wrote: > Try this (probably as root unless you're in the adm group): > > journalctl --this-boot --full Oh, it's been a while since I learned about the journal so I forgot to mention that you can make its stuff persistent. You may be interested in this: http://0pointe

Re: USB key

2013-03-02 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/02/2013 03:30 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: What does make that when a user pluggin a usb key, it is automatically mounted with his own rights while there is noting in the fstab? How can I reproduce it manually? In Xfce, there's a control panel for Removable Drives and Media where you can set

Re: USB key

2013-03-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2013-03-02 at 16:12 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/02/2013 03:30 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > > What does make that when a user pluggin a usb key, it is automatically > > mounted with his own rights while there is noting in the fstab? > > How can I reproduce it manually? > > In Xfce, there's

Re: rsyslogd and services in general

2013-03-02 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/02/2013 03:45 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: man journalctl Thanx; that hadn't occurred to me. Checking, I find that it depends on syslog.socket.service, which also failed. I'll start a new thread for that because I don't think it's related to the OP's question. -- users mailing list users@li

Re: rsyslogd and services in general

2013-03-02 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/02/2013 03:52 PM, Tod Thomas wrote: On 03/02/2013 05:40 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/02/2013 02:34 PM, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: systemd provides a new command for some startup logging: journalctl Just out of curiosity, I checked to see if that's active: [root@khorlia joe]# systemctl status

Re: rsyslogd and services in general

2013-03-02 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/03/13 08:22, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/02/2013 03:45 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> man journalctl > > Thanx; that hadn't occurred to me. Checking, I find that it depends on > syslog.socket.service, which also failed. I'll start a new thread for that > because I don't think it's related to the OP

grub2 cfg errors in 18

2013-03-02 Thread Frank McCormick
Still trying to discover the cause of errors being generated when grub2-mkconfig is run. Tne problem first surfaced after a new kernel during a recent update on Fedora 18. The error was something along the lines of "can't find a usable template" . So I tried to manually generate a grub.cfg file

Re: rsyslogd and services in general

2013-03-02 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/02/2013 04:31 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/03/13 08:22, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/02/2013 03:45 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: man journalctl Thanx; that hadn't occurred to me. Checking, I find that it depends on syslog.socket.service, which also failed. I'll start a new thread for that because I

Re: rsyslogd and services in general

2013-03-02 Thread Garry T. Williams
On 3-2-13 14:40:39 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/02/2013 02:34 PM, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: > > systemd provides a new command for some startup logging: journalctl > > Just out of curiosity, I checked to see if that's active: > > [root@khorlia joe]# systemctl status journalctl.service > journalctl.servi

Re: rsyslogd and services in general

2013-03-02 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 03.03.2013 01:37, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 03/02/2013 04:31 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 03/03/13 08:22, Joe Zeff wrote: >>> On 03/02/2013 03:45 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: man journalctl >>> >>> Thanx; that hadn't occurred to me. Checking, I find that it depends on >>> syslog.socket.service, wh

Re: rsyslogd and services in general

2013-03-02 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/03/13 08:37, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/02/2013 04:31 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 03/03/13 08:22, Joe Zeff wrote: >>> On 03/02/2013 03:45 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: man journalctl >>> >>> Thanx; that hadn't occurred to me. Checking, I find that it depends on >>> syslog.socket.service, which al

bootable USB key

2013-03-02 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, I was thinking in making a bootable USB key for the installation. I read: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_Live_USB There is instruction about creating partitions and install the .iso on one of them and make it bootable. The example is with a single partition: su -c "liv

Re: SOLVED: sylfilter compile error: #error "Only can be included directly."

2013-03-02 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 00:01:06 +0100 poma wrote: > On 03/02/13 20:22, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > I was able to get it to "work" (i.e. compile, etc) with the following: > > > > ./configure --with-libsylph=sylpheed --with-package=sylpheed > > --enable-sqlite=yes --includedir

Re: bootable USB key

2013-03-02 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/03/13 08:56, Patrick Dupre wrote: > Hello, > > I was thinking in making a bootable USB key for the installation. > I read: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_Live_USB > There is instruction about creating partitions and install the .iso on one > of them and make it bootable.

Re: Multiboot question

2013-03-02 Thread Bill Davidsen
Christopher Meng wrote: Hi all, Recently I'm stucked with multiboot. I have a disk with following partition: sd1. 157GB NTFS of Win8 sd2. 55GB including: sd5. 500M /boot sd6. 4GB /swap sd7. 50GB BTRFS Fedora 18 sd3.55GB not parted sd4.32GB not

Re: grub2 cfg errors in 18

2013-03-02 Thread Bill Davidsen
Frank McCormick wrote: Still trying to discover the cause of errors being generated when grub2-mkconfig is run. Tne problem first surfaced after a new kernel during a recent update on Fedora 18. The error was something along the lines of "can't find a usable template" . So I tried to manually gen

Re: USB key

2013-03-02 Thread Bill Davidsen
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2013-03-02 at 16:12 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/02/2013 03:30 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: What does make that when a user pluggin a usb key, it is automatically mounted with his own rights while there is noting in the fstab? How can I reproduce it manually? In

Re: installation issue 2

2013-03-02 Thread Bill Davidsen
Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, I was thinking in making a bootable USB key for the installation. I read: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_Live_USB There is instruction about creating partitions and install the .iso on one of them and make it bootable. The example is with a single

Re: Multiboot question

2013-03-02 Thread Christopher Meng
Thanks. In fact my root confusion is f18's anaconda... I don't know how to part when I faced it. Now I use f17 anaconda and everything seems ok. Thanks all very much! 在 2013-3-3 AM9:26,"Bill Davidsen" 写道: > Christopher Meng wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Recently I'm stucked with multiboot. >> >> I

Re: bootable USB key

2013-03-02 Thread Christopher Meng
Are you trying to install a separate Fedora on your USB key or something others? 在 2013-3-3 AM9:07,"Ed Greshko" 写道: > On 03/03/13 08:56, Patrick Dupre wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I was thinking in making a bootable USB key for the installation. > > I read: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create

Re: bootable USB key

2013-03-02 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/03/13 13:43, Christopher Meng wrote: > Are you trying to install a separate Fedora on your USB key or something > others? Please respond to the OP's post, and please refrain from Top Posting http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#Proper_posting_style -- From now on, a

Re: SOLVED: sylfilter compile error: #error "Only can be included directly."

2013-03-02 Thread poma
On 03/03/13 02:00, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 00:01:06 +0100 poma > wrote: > >> On 03/02/13 20:22, Ranjan Maitra wrote: >>> >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> I was able to get it to "work" (i.e. compile, etc) with the following: >>> >>> ./configure --with-libsylph=sylpheed --with-package=sy

Re: Check Updates option does no work for me in Software application

2013-03-02 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 02 March 2013, Temlakos sent: > None of those GUI extenders issues commands like "yum clean metadata." > So when I want to run an update on my own schedule, I issue that command > first. I've rarely ever had to do such a thing, and I certainly wouldn't bother doing each ti

Re: SOLVED: sylfilter compile error: #error "Only can be included directly."

2013-03-02 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 07:17:10 +0100 poma wrote: > On 03/03/13 02:00, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 00:01:06 +0100 poma > > wrote: > > > >> On 03/02/13 20:22, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> Thanks! > >>> > >>> I was able to get it to "work" (i.e. compile, etc) with the follo

Re: SOLVED: sylfilter compile error: #error "Only can be included directly."

2013-03-02 Thread poma
On 03/03/13 07:41, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 07:17:10 +0100 poma > wrote: > >> On 03/03/13 02:00, Ranjan Maitra wrote: >>> On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 00:01:06 +0100 poma >>> wrote: >>> On 03/02/13 20:22, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > > Thanks! > > I was able to get i