Re: netbook vs tablet

2012-11-26 Thread Gary Stainburn
On Friday 23 November 2012 19:39:23 Jim wrote: > I have a Asus 1000 that came with Linux on it , it had 32gb SSD I > upgraded it to 64gb SSD. > I use mine more than I use my Laptop or PC and I have upgraded it with > Fedora since F10. And it is the reason I won't buy a Tablet. > The Mini's are chea

Re: Need help with minimal install on ee701

2012-11-26 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 25 November 2012, Robert Moskowitz sent: > It was quite a pain getting to this point as the ee701 has a narrow > screen and you cannont move the screens in install to see what is off > the bottom of the screen. You just have to guess I haven't tried this in the insta

Re: Using HDMI with Radeon and fc17

2012-11-26 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 25 November 2012, Alex sent: > The HDMI that is connected to the HDTV is in another room. The > intention was to run a 30' HDMI cable and a 30' USB cable for another > wireless USB keyboard to the other room, so I could access my PC from > that other room. Are you testing u

Re: Using HDMI with Radeon and fc17

2012-11-26 Thread Corey Fedoravic
A curious topic, indeed. I am wont to consider the /bigger picture/ (heh heh, uh pun, intended?)... E.G. does this mean then that so-called broadband providers must maintain some permutation of "repeaters" , or signal amplifiers? Remember telephone-poles. Uh... been a while since light outs

Re: Need help with minimal install on ee701

2012-11-26 Thread Andras Simon
2012/11/26, Robert Moskowitz : > I did the minimal install on my ee701. At least the first attempt. > > I set my swap at 768Mb, and left /boot at 500Mb (probably could shrink > this next time). This left 2.7Gb for / I'm not sure having a swap partition on a 4G SSD is a good idea. Upgrading RAM i

Re: Need help with minimal install on ee701

2012-11-26 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 11/26/2012 06:15 AM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 25 November 2012, Robert Moskowitz sent: It was quite a pain getting to this point as the ee701 has a narrow screen and you cannont move the screens in install to see what is off the bottom of the screen. You just have to guess I h

Re: Need help with minimal install on ee701

2012-11-26 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 11/26/2012 07:08 AM, Andras Simon wrote: 2012/11/26, Robert Moskowitz : I did the minimal install on my ee701. At least the first attempt. I set my swap at 768Mb, and left /boot at 500Mb (probably could shrink this next time). This left 2.7Gb for / I'm not sure having a swap partition on

Re: Need help with minimal install on ee701

2012-11-26 Thread Andras Simon
2012/11/26, Robert Moskowitz : > > On 11/26/2012 07:08 AM, Andras Simon wrote: [...] >>> It was quite a pain getting to this point as the ee701 has a narrow >>> screen and you cannont move the screens in install to see what is off >>> the bottom of the screen. You just have to guess >> Or sw

Re: f17 - minimal + gnome :: init 5 does not work

2012-11-26 Thread Hiisi
What do you see after executing startx command? On 26/11/2012, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I remembered that on a non-graphical system (actually I did a graphical > install, but changed the runlevel to 3) was just to type in: > > init 5 > > So I tried it and things seem to just hang. So I rebooted

Re: kernel private key

2012-11-26 Thread Christopher Svanefalk
Linus is watching you. Best, Christopher Svanefalk mob: +46762628251 skype: csvanefalk On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 7:59 AM, JD wrote: > > On 11/25/2012 11:46 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > >> >> On 11/26/2012 01:11 AM, JD wrote: >> >>> >>> I was building kernel 3.7-0.rc6.git.fc19 and during the b

Re: kernel private key

2012-11-26 Thread Alchemist
2012/11/26 Christopher Svanefalk > Linus is watching you. > > Best, > > Christopher Svanefalk > mob: +46762628251 > skype: csvanefalk > > > > On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 7:59 AM, JD wrote: > >> >> On 11/25/2012 11:46 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> >>> >>> On 11/26/2012 01:11 AM, JD wrote: >>> >

Re: kswapd0 consuming 50% of cpu

2012-11-26 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 00:20:02 -0700, JD wrote: Is this normal for the kswapd to consume 50% of cpu? And why would it do that? This is the first time I have seen this. Kernel is kernel-3.6.6-1.fc16 24 root 20 0 000 R 50.1 0.0 117:08.40 kswapd0 There have been problem

Suspected permssions problem on FC17 new installation - need help

2012-11-26 Thread William W. Austin
I have just done an installation of fc17 on a machine which was previously running 16 with no problems. I actually replaced the disk on which the root file system was installed, so I still have the fc16 root system installed and am able to boot from it to make comparisons, etc. I have tried rebo

Locate/find -

2012-11-26 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
Is there a way/command that will find all instances of files such as "*.ncd" on the external hard drive: /run/media/bobg/Simple/Box8BkU/ updatedb and locate with it mounted do not find anything? Often times it would be convenient to do but locate seems only to want to work

Re: Locate/find -

2012-11-26 Thread Alchemist
2012/11/26 Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA > >Is there a way/command that will find all instances of files such as >"*.ncd" on the external hard drive: > >/run/media/bobg/Simple/**Box8BkU/ > >updatedb and locate with it mounted do not find anything? Often >times it would

F17 yum not updating

2012-11-26 Thread Beartooth
I've never really gotten my head clear around the concept of a path. What am I doing wrong here? How & where do I fix it? And how did I get into this? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- user

Re: Locate/find -

2012-11-26 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 26/11/12 09:07, Alchemist wrote: find /run/media/bobg/Simple/Box8BkU -name *.ncd -ls Thank you, looks like just what I needed and works for me! Bob -- http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box7 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options

Re: F17 yum not updating

2012-11-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/26/2012 10:11 PM, Beartooth wrote: > I've never really gotten my head clear around the concept of a > path. What am I doing wrong here? How & where do I fix it? And how did I > get into this? > Ahhh, what? Did you forget to add more detail? -- Programming today is a race between

Re: f17 - minimal + gnome :: init 5 does not work

2012-11-26 Thread fred smith
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:40:32AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I remembered that on a non-graphical system (actually I did a graphical > install, but changed the runlevel to 3) was just to type in: > > init 5 > > So I tried it and things seem to just hang. So I rebooted. Probably > need t

loadbalance

2012-11-26 Thread Francisco J. Penaranda
I would like to know how to loadbalance in Fedora17, and what kind of program I need to use, I have 3 Ethernets and one LAN Thanks -- Francisco J. Peñaranda F. Jefe de Sistemas Ministerio de Comunicación Teléfono : 22004 3 0 Email: francisco.penara...@comunicacion.gob.bo webpage: www.co

Re: Locate/find -

2012-11-26 Thread Tim
Bob Goodwin: > Is there a way/command that will find all instances of files such as > "*.ncd" on the external hard drive: > > /run/media/bobg/Simple/Box8BkU/ > > updatedb and locate with it mounted do not find anything? Often > times it would be convenient to do but locate seems only to want to >

Re: loadbalance

2012-11-26 Thread Alchemist
2012/11/26 Francisco J. Penaranda > I would like to know how to loadbalance in Fedora17, and what kind of > program I need to use, I have 3 Ethernets and one LAN > > Thanks > > -- > Francisco J. Peñaranda F. > *Jefe de Sistemas* > *Ministerio de Comunicación* > *Teléfono:* 2200430 > *Email:* fran

Re: Using HDMI with Radeon and fc17

2012-11-26 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 26 November 2012, Corey Fedoravic waxed lyrical: > does this mean then that so-called broadband providers must maintain > some permutation of "repeaters" , or signal amplifiers? It's a basic part of wired communication. There's a line length limit, where you need to put amp

Re: F17 yum not updating

2012-11-26 Thread Beartooth
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 22:26:53 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/26/2012 10:11 PM, Beartooth wrote: >> I've never really gotten my head clear around the concept of a >> path. What am I doing wrong here? How & where do I fix it? And how did >> I get into this? >> >> > Ahhh, what? Did you forget

Re: F17 yum not updating

2012-11-26 Thread Sergio
--- Em seg, 26/11/12, Beartooth escreveu: > De: Beartooth > Assunto: Re: F17 yum not updating > Para: users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Data: Segunda-feira, 26 de Novembro de 2012, 14:14 > On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 22:26:53 +0800, > Ed Greshko wrote: > > > On 11/26/2012 10:11 PM, Beartooth wrote: > >

Re: F17 yum not updating

2012-11-26 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 26 November 2012, Beartooth sent: > > [root@localhost ~]# yum update > Loaded plugins: aliases, changelog, downloadonly, fastestmirror, > : presto, refresh-packagekit, security, tmprepo, verify, > : versionlock > Loading mirror speeds from cached

Re: kswapd0 consuming 50% of cpu

2012-11-26 Thread JD
On 11/26/2012 06:33 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 00:20:02 -0700, JD wrote: Is this normal for the kswapd to consume 50% of cpu? And why would it do that? This is the first time I have seen this. Kernel is kernel-3.6.6-1.fc16 24 root 20 0 000 R 50.1

Re: F17 yum not updating

2012-11-26 Thread Beartooth
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 08:56:04 -0800, Sergio wrote: > Try this: > yum update --disableplugin=fastestmirror Response looks the same to me : [root@localhost ~]# yum update --disableplugin=fastestmirror Loaded plugins: aliases, changelog, downloadonly, presto, refresh- : packag

Re: F17 yum not updating

2012-11-26 Thread Alchemist
2012/11/26 Beartooth > On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 08:56:04 -0800, Sergio wrote: > > > Try this: > > yum update --disableplugin=fastestmirror > > Response looks the same to me : > > [root@localhost ~]# yum update --disableplugin=fastestmirror > Loaded plugins: aliases, changelog, downloadonly, pr

Brother HL5250 vs. Cups (Again)

2012-11-26 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
When I try to print double sided to this printer I get a single page reading: ERROR NAME; stackunderflow COMMAND; pop OPERAND STACK; I almost always see this when printing anything double sided from Firefox or from Acroread, but not when printing fr

Re: Brother HL5250 vs. Cups (Again)

2012-11-26 Thread Digimer
On 11/26/2012 12:48 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > When I try to print double sided to this printer I get a single page > reading: > > ERROR NAME; > stackunderflow > COMMAND; > pop > OPERAND STACK; > > I almost always see this when printing anything

Re: Brother HL5250 vs. Cups (Again)

2012-11-26 Thread fred smith
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:57:20PM -0500, Digimer wrote: > On 11/26/2012 12:48 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > When I try to print double sided to this printer I get a single page > > reading: > > > > ERROR NAME; > > stackunderflow > > COMMAND; > > pop > >

Re: Brother HL5250 vs. Cups (Again)

2012-11-26 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 09:48 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > When I try to print double sided to this printer I get a single page > reading: > > ERROR NAME; > stackunderflow > COMMAND; > pop > OPERAND STACK; > > I almost always see this when printin

Re: Brother HL5250 vs. Cups (Again)

2012-11-26 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 13:22 -0500, fred smith wrote: > On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:57:20PM -0500, Digimer wrote: > > On 11/26/2012 12:48 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > > When I try to print double sided to this printer I get a single page > > > reading: > > > > > > ERROR NAME; > > >

Re: kswapd0 consuming 50% of cpu

2012-11-26 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 10:19:05 -0700, JD wrote: This is why I decided to download source of kernel 3.7.0-rc6.git from fc19 and build it on my fc16, in the hopes of a better kernel. But no it has the kswap bug eating 50% of cpu. So was this happening with both 3.7 and 3.6 kernels? Th

Re: kswapd0 consuming 50% of cpu

2012-11-26 Thread JD
On 11/26/2012 12:01 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 10:19:05 -0700, JD wrote: This is why I decided to download source of kernel 3.7.0-rc6.git from fc19 and build it on my fc16, in the hopes of a better kernel. But no it has the kswap bug eating 50% of cpu. So was

Re: kswapd0 consuming 50% of cpu

2012-11-26 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:19:11 -0700, JD wrote: The 50% cpu consumption by kswapd appeared first in 3.7 Thanks for that clarification. It looks like there may be multiple things causing similar problems here. 3.7-rc7 should have another patch to help this, but there are still some patch

Re: kswapd0 consuming 50% of cpu

2012-11-26 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:19:11 -0700, JD wrote: The Read/Write failures started in 3.6.X kernels, but do not appear in 3.7. 3.7 is doing the right thing by first issuing a hard reset to the sleeping drives before reading or committing the journals. 3.6.X was not sending any hard resets to

NFS4 mount problem -

2012-11-26 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
I can't mount this nfs server: [root@box7 ~]# mount 192.168.1.8:/home/bobg/NFSdata /mnt/SRVR1 mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 192.168.1.8:/home/bobg/NFSdata What are the likely problems? It's not a firewall. I've changed a few permissions to no avail. Run out of idea

Re: Locate/find -

2012-11-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/26/2012 10:03 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: >updatedb and locate with it mounted do not find anything? Often >times it would be convenient to do but locate seems only to want to >work on the internal drives [for me]. Using the find command was a good answer. But

Re: NFS4 mount problem -

2012-11-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/27/2012 05:01 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > > I can't mount this nfs server: > >[root@box7 ~]# mount 192.168.1.8:/home/bobg/NFSdata /mnt/SRVR1 >mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting >192.168.1.8:/home/bobg/NFSdata > > What are the likely problems? It's

Re: NFS4 mount problem -

2012-11-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 16:01 -0500, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > I can't mount this nfs server: > > [root@box7 ~]# mount 192.168.1.8:/home/bobg/NFSdata /mnt/SRVR1 > mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting > 192.168.1.8:/home/bobg/NFSdata > > What are the likely

Re: kswapd0 consuming 50% of cpu

2012-11-26 Thread JD
On 11/26/2012 01:11 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:19:11 -0700, JD wrote: The Read/Write failures started in 3.6.X kernels, but do not appear in 3.7. 3.7 is doing the right thing by first issuing a hard reset to the sleeping drives before reading or committing the

Building from kernel-3.6.7-5.fc18.src.rpm on fc16

2012-11-26 Thread JD
+ '[' '!' -f /home/jd/rpmbuild/SOURCES/linux-2.6-makefile-after_link.patch ']' ERROR: Patch linux-2.6-makefile-after_link.patch not listed as a source patch in specfile error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.2pUmw7 (%prep) RPM build errors: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.2pUm

Re: Building from kernel-3.6.7-5.fc18.src.rpm on fc16

2012-11-26 Thread JD
On 11/26/2012 05:29 PM, JD wrote: + '[' '!' -f /home/jd/rpmbuild/SOURCES/linux-2.6-makefile-after_link.patch ']' ERROR: Patch linux-2.6-makefile-after_link.patch not listed as a source patch in specfile error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.2pUmw7 (%prep) RPM build errors: Bad ex

Re: Building from kernel-3.6.7-5.fc18.src.rpm on fc16

2012-11-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 17:59 -0700, JD wrote: > On 11/26/2012 05:29 PM, JD wrote: > > + '[' '!' -f > > /home/jd/rpmbuild/SOURCES/linux-2.6-makefile-after_link.patch ']' > > ERROR: Patch linux-2.6-makefile-after_link.patch not listed as a > > source patch in specfile > > error: Bad exit status fr

Re: Brother HL5250 vs. Cups (Again)

2012-11-26 Thread fred smith
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 10:51:18AM -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 13:22 -0500, fred smith wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:57:20PM -0500, Digimer wrote: > > > On 11/26/2012 12:48 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > > > When I try to print double sided to this printer I get

Re: Need help with minimal install on ee701

2012-11-26 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 11/26/2012 08:23 AM, Andras Simon wrote: 2012/11/26, Robert Moskowitz : On 11/26/2012 07:08 AM, Andras Simon wrote: [...] It was quite a pain getting to this point as the ee701 has a narrow screen and you cannont move the screens in install to see what is off the bottom of the screen. Yo

Re: f17 - minimal + gnome :: init 5 does not work

2012-11-26 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 11/26/2012 08:28 AM, Hiisi wrote: What do you see after executing startx command? Ah, startx. well I don't think it was installed as I typed in start and hit the tab and nothing completed. I have since done a reinstall and figured out how to 'properly' get gnome installed. On 26/11/

Re: kernel private key

2012-11-26 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 11/26/2012 01:59 AM, JD wrote: On 11/25/2012 11:46 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 11/26/2012 01:11 AM, JD wrote: I was building kernel 3.7-0.rc6.git.fc19 and during the build I saw this: Generating a 4096 bit RSA private key Only 4096 Is that strong enough Shouldn't it be 819

Re: Need help with minimal install on ee701

2012-11-26 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 22:03 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I deselected everything I could and DID get gnome installed with 320Mb > left open. But this is not enough to get VLC installed to view an mp4 > file. Can't figure out how to get Totem to view an mp4. Totem makes use of the gstreamer c