Re: vncserver giving Oh No. Something has gone wrong?

2012-11-21 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
On 20 Nov 2012 at 15:10, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: From: "Michael D. Setzer II" To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Date sent: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:10:26 +1000 Subject:vncserver giving Oh No. Something has gone wrong? Priority:

Re: vncserver giving Oh No. Something has gone wrong?

2012-11-21 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/21/2012 04:37 AM, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: > On 20 Nov 2012 at 15:10, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: > > From: "Michael D. Setzer II" To: > users@lists.fedoraproject.org Date sent: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 > 15:10:26 > +10

Re: Removing write protect from a seagate hard drive

2012-11-21 Thread Jens Neu
On 21.11.2012 09:07, JD wrote: Since I try to mount it as root, and /dev/sdd1 has mode 600, permission is not the issue. So, it has to be a disk internal hardware state. If you mount it correctly and the FS is clean, maybe that would be the time to check your backup and fire up smartctl ;-)

Re: What are these for?

2012-11-21 Thread lee
Matthew Miller writes: > On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 03:51:03PM +0100, lee wrote: >> what is auditd for? The manpage doesn't tell me, and I can't find any >> documentation about it telling me what the purpose is. Is there >> anything that speaks against disabling it? > > This records secure log mes

Re: What are these for?

2012-11-21 Thread Richard Hughes
On 21 November 2012 11:37, lee wrote: > It certainly does decrease security getting users used to enter the root > password everywhere. Polkit should be deprecated. "man polkit" is your friend. Richard -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription op

Re: What are these for?

2012-11-21 Thread lee
Richard Hughes writes: > On 21 November 2012 11:37, lee wrote: >> It certainly does decrease security getting users used to enter the root >> password everywhere. Polkit should be deprecated. > > "man polkit" is your friend. Is it? It doesn't really tell me much and won't change the problem t

Re: What are these for?

2012-11-21 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:37:47PM +0100, lee wrote: > > This records secure log messages from the kernel, including SELinux alerts. > > You don't technically _need_ it, but these are important messages. > Why does it need it's own daemon rather than using /var/log/messages > where I might even see

Re: Removing write protect from a seagate hard drive

2012-11-21 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 22:29:44 -0700 JD wrote: > Is there a system util to use to issue > a command to a hard drive to remove > write protect? > I had thought hdparm might do it, but > the man page makes no mention of such > feature in hdparm. SATA or some kind of USB thing ? If its SATA I'm not

What is minimal Fedora install?

2012-11-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Or what ever it was called in the install. The reason I am asking is I need to reinstall on my Asus ee701 which only has 4Gb SSD, and I provide extra space on an SD card. It was the SD card that failed me this last time with sector errors, so if I could fit F17 into say 3Gb (2.5 real?) that w

Re: What is minimal Fedora install?

2012-11-21 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 09:27:12AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > The reason I am asking is I need to reinstall on my Asus ee701 which > only has 4Gb SSD, and I provide extra space on an SD card. It was > the SD card that failed me this last time with sector errors, so if > I could fit F17 into

Re: What are these for?

2012-11-21 Thread lee
Matthew Miller writes: > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:37:47PM +0100, lee wrote: >> > This records secure log messages from the kernel, including SELinux alerts. >> > You don't technically _need_ it, but these are important messages. >> Why does it need it's own daemon rather than using /var/log/mes

Re: What is minimal Fedora install?

2012-11-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.11.2012 15:27, schrieb Robert Moskowitz: > Or what ever it was called in the install. > > The reason I am asking is I need to reinstall on my Asus ee701 which only has > 4Gb SSD, and I provide extra space on > an SD card. It was the SD card that failed me this last time with sector > erro

Re: Te curious case of DST

2012-11-21 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 15:53 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 12:04:13 -0800 > Geoffrey Leach wrote: > > > Yes it is dual-booted with Windoze. However, I have Linux running on > > local time for that reason. > > Doesn't matter. They both try to "fix" the clock the first time they

Re: What is minimal Fedora install?

2012-11-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 11/21/2012 09:40 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 21.11.2012 15:27, schrieb Robert Moskowitz: Or what ever it was called in the install. The reason I am asking is I need to reinstall on my Asus ee701 which only has 4Gb SSD, and I provide extra space on an SD card. It was the SD card that failed

Re: What are these for?

2012-11-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.11.2012 15:38, schrieb lee: > Matthew Miller writes: >> Because the syslog interface isn't secure. > > How come? Only root can read the logfile. THE INTERFACE it is not trustable which process generates / fakes a record also you do not want all from /var/log/secure mixed in messages

Re: Te curious case of DST

2012-11-21 Thread Robert Nichols
On 11/20/2012 07:47 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:04:13PM -0800, Geoffrey Leach wrote: On 11/20/2012 11:17:35 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: Do the machines dual boot Winblows? Winblows keeps the hardware clock in local time (rather than UTC like Linux). This can cause problems wit

Re: What are these for?

2012-11-21 Thread Alan Cox
> > Because the syslog interface isn't secure. > > How come? Only root can read the logfile. The logging interface is not secure, it provides a generic path for anyone to log stuff. > Well I can't predict the future. What does mcelog actually do to > prevent hardware problems or to make the s

How do I disable polkitd?

2012-11-21 Thread lee
Hi, it seems systemctl doesn't know about polkitd though pstree shows it as started by systemd. There don't seem to be files for starting polkitd in /etc. It cannot be removed because almost 600 packages depend on it :( So how do I disable it? -- Fedora 17 -- users mailing list users@lists.

Re: What are these for?

2012-11-21 Thread Ian Malone
On 21 November 2012 14:38, lee wrote: I don't pretend to have the answers to all your questions, but: > Matthew Miller writes: > >> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:37:47PM +0100, lee wrote: >> By only asking for and using privileged access when required. That's a >> fundamentally good idea. > > And

Re: What is minimal Fedora install?

2012-11-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.11.2012 15:51, schrieb Robert Moskowitz: > On 11/21/2012 09:40 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 21.11.2012 15:27, schrieb Robert Moskowitz: >>> Or what ever it was called in the install. >>> >>> The reason I am asking is I need to reinstall on my Asus ee701 which only >>> has 4Gb SSD, and I

Re: How do I disable polkitd?

2012-11-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.11.2012 15:58, schrieb lee: > Hi, > > it seems systemctl doesn't know about polkitd though pstree shows it as > started by systemd. There don't seem to be files for starting polkitd > in /etc. It cannot be removed because almost 600 packages depend on it > :( > > So how do I disable it?

Re: Te curious case of DST

2012-11-21 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:45:30 + Matthew Saltzman wrote: > 1. Set the hardware clock to UTC in Linux and set Linux to use my > correct local timezone. > 2. Set Windows to use GMT as the timezone and turn off the DST > adjustment in each user's clock settings. Yep, th

Re: What are these for?

2012-11-21 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 03:02:54PM +, Alan Cox wrote: > > And what if the user in the wheel group wants to use emacs to edit some > > configuration file that can only be modified by root? > They can use su if they want to use emacs for it. Or better, set VISUAL=emacs and run `sudo -e`, which w

Re: Te curious case of DST

2012-11-21 Thread Geoffrey Leach
On 11/21/2012 06:45:30 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 15:53 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 12:04:13 -0800 > > Geoffrey Leach wrote: > > > > > Yes it is dual-booted with Windoze. However, I have Linux running > on > > > local time for that reason. > > > >

Pastebin for pictures

2012-11-21 Thread Zoltan Hoppar
Hi I'm looking for an open source web app like the simply pastebin, just for pictures? Is there open source one in the wild? I thought on this, because most of the designers are splitting to multiple spaces and non free services - wouldn't be great to set an temporary space for images, for quick i

Re: Pastebin for pictures

2012-11-21 Thread Sergio
I'm not sure what you mean as I'm no app developer (web or otherwise) but isn't ompldr.org open-source? --- Em qua, 21/11/12, Zoltan Hoppar escreveu: De: Zoltan Hoppar Assunto: Pastebin for pictures Para: "Community support for Fedora users" Data: Quarta-feira, 21 de Novembro de 2012, 13:34

Re: Te curious case of DST

2012-11-21 Thread Andre Robatino
Matthew Saltzman clemson.edu> writes: > I recall that there is a little utility available for Windows that makes > it work with a hardware clock set for UTC, but I've also heard that some > things don't work quite correctly with it. You don't need a utility, just a registry hack (google for "Rea

Re: Removing write protect from a seagate hard drive

2012-11-21 Thread JD
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 11/20/2012 11:07 PM, JD wrote: > >> Since I try to mount it as root, and /dev/sdd1 has mode 600, permission >> is not >> the issue. So, it has to be a disk internal hardware state. >> > > What is your mount command. If there's an entry in fs

Re: Removing write protect from a seagate hard drive

2012-11-21 Thread JD
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:49 AM, Alan Cox wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 22:29:44 -0700 > JD wrote: > > > Is there a system util to use to issue > > a command to a hard drive to remove > > write protect? > > I had thought hdparm might do it, but > > the man page makes no mention of such > > featu

Re: What are these for?

2012-11-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/21/2012 06:38 AM, lee wrote: And how do you know or make sure that some software uses your password only for that? Use only software from the Fedora repos and trust the devs to do their jobs. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options

Re: What is minimal Fedora install?

2012-11-21 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 09:51:33AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Servers below 3Gb, but workstations? KDE is smaller than Gnome (but > then I would be using different desktops). Yeah. Going from my mostly-minimal cloud install to Gnome Desktop took me from 707MB to 3.2GB on disk. (And had to b

Re: Removing write protect from a seagate hard drive

2012-11-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/21/2012 09:09 AM, JD wrote: Since it is an external drive that is detachable, I decided to mount it manually. I did indeed run fsck and it declared the fs clean. When I try to mount it with mount -t ext3 -o rw /dev/sdd1 /sdd1 I've never had rw work correctly. Try putting it in fstab, usi

Re: What is minimal Fedora install?

2012-11-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 11/21/2012 02:08 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 09:51:33AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Servers below 3Gb, but workstations? KDE is smaller than Gnome (but then I would be using different desktops). Yeah. Going from my mostly-minimal cloud install to Gnome Desktop took

Re: Removing write protect from a seagate hard drive

2012-11-21 Thread Dave Stevens
Quoting JD : On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:49 AM, Alan Cox wrote: On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 22:29:44 -0700 JD wrote: > Is there a system util to use to issue > a command to a hard drive to remove > write protect? > I had thought hdparm might do it, but > the man page makes no mention of such > featur

reminder/note: lists.fedoraproject.org outage tonight

2012-11-21 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Just a quick note here for anyone who isn't subscribed to the announce list (which you should go subscribe to if you aren't :) http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2012-November/003118.html kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproj

Re: What are these for?

2012-11-21 Thread Ian Malone
On 21 November 2012 18:59, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 11/21/2012 06:38 AM, lee wrote: >> >> And how do you know or make sure that some software uses your password >> only for that? > > > Use only software from the Fedora repos and trust the devs to do their jobs. > Rather tricky, javascript on a webpag

Re: Removing write protect from a seagate hard drive

2012-11-21 Thread Alan Cox
> of disk to respond to host query to identify itself > or to host > query to report it's DMA status?? > Please have a look at the error messages I had posted at > http://www.sendspace.com/file/761te2 The trace clearly shows its bust or the cables are or similar. It's not a "write protect" its si

Re: What is minimal Fedora install?

2012-11-21 Thread Sergio
--- Em qua, 21/11/12, Robert Moskowitz escreveu: > De: Robert Moskowitz > Assunto: Re: What is minimal Fedora install? > Para: "Community support for Fedora users" > Cc: "Matthew Miller" > Data: Quarta-feira, 21 de Novembro de 2012, 18:05 > On 11/21/2012 02:08 PM, Matthew > Miller wrote: > >

cant install libdvdcss

2012-11-21 Thread Brian West
hi everyone is the repo that contains libdvdcss down? i need to install them to watch encrypted dvds any thoughts? -Brian -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://f

Re: cant install libdvdcss

2012-11-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.11.2012 23:33, schrieb Brian West: > hi everyone is the repo that contains libdvdcss down? i need to install them > to watch encrypted dvds any thoughts atrpms - do not enable the repo, only download the RPM http://rpm.pbone.net/ is a real good search site signature.asc Description

Re: cant install libdvdcss

2012-11-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 17:33:14 -0500, Brian West wrote: hi everyone is the repo that contains libdvdcss down? i need to install them to watch encrypted dvds any thoughts? It looks like the repos are still there. Take a look at http://rpm.livna.org/repo . -- users mailing list users@list

Re: cant install libdvdcss

2012-11-21 Thread Brian West
On 11/21/2012 05:36 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 21.11.2012 23:33, schrieb Brian West: hi everyone is the repo that contains libdvdcss down? i need to install them to watch encrypted dvds any thoughts atrpms - do not enable the repo, only download the RPM http://rpm.pbone.net/ is a real good

Re: cant install libdvdcss

2012-11-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.11.2012 23:41, schrieb Brian West: > On 11/21/2012 05:36 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> Am 21.11.2012 23:33, schrieb Brian West: >>> hi everyone is the repo that contains libdvdcss down? i need to install >>> them to watch encrypted dvds any thoughts >> atrpms - do not enable the repo, on

[SOLVED] Re: cant install libdvdcss

2012-11-21 Thread Brian West
On 11/21/2012 05:47 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 21.11.2012 23:41, schrieb Brian West: On 11/21/2012 05:36 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 21.11.2012 23:33, schrieb Brian West: hi everyone is the repo that contains libdvdcss down? i need to install them to watch encrypted dvds any thoughts atrp

FIXED Re: New system - need help with

2012-11-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Still don't know if this is a bug, but the developer of the extension 'walked' me through https://extensions.gnome.org/local/ To use the config button there to set the mode to "workstation & icons" to get it to work as I wanted. On 11/19/2012 10:24 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I killed my ol

Re: FIXED Re: New system - need help with

2012-11-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/21/2012 03:40 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Still don't know if this is a bug, but the developer of the extension 'walked' me through https://extensions.gnome.org/local/ To use the config button there to set the mode to "workstation & icons" to get it to work as I wanted. I don't think it

Re: FIXED Re: New system - need help with

2012-11-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 11/21/2012 06:50 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/21/2012 03:40 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Still don't know if this is a bug, but the developer of the extension 'walked' me through https://extensions.gnome.org/local/ To use the config button there to set the mode to "workstation & icons" to get

Getting rid of nepomukserver

2012-11-21 Thread R. G. Newbury
I have turned off 'Desktop Search' in Settings. I have deleted all executables in /usr/bin with 'nepomuk' in the name (and virtuoso). I have nuked the nepomuk folders hiding down in ~/.kde. But after I rebooted I *still* ended up with a 'nepomukserver' running. ps -aux says it is started by kd

Re: Getting rid of nepomukserver

2012-11-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/22/2012 12:29 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote: > > I have turned off 'Desktop Search' in Settings. I have deleted all > executables in /usr/bin with 'nepomuk' in the name (and virtuoso). I have > nuked the nepomuk folders hiding down in ~/.kde. > But after I rebooted I *still* ended up with a 'nepo